Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-11 Thread bharti Waters
Dear sir,
Can I have some information on use of silver Ionization for drinking water 
disinfection from your federation. 
Regards
BHARTI WATERS PVT LTD
Kamal Aggarwal
Director
 



- Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


  Senator Feinstein already voted YES to CAFTA. She was one of something like 
12 Democrats to side with Republicans to vote FOR CAFTA in the Senate where it 
has already passed. (These people have strong ties and obligations to big 
Pharma.)  It will probably come up for a vote July 11 in the House where it is 
in trouble, so we need to keep the heat on. 
- Original Message - 
From: Raine 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening.


Dear Mrs. :

   Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the 
Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade 
Organization (WTO).  I appreciate the time you took to write. 

I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you 
know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of 
trade between countries.  At its heart are the WTO agreements, 
negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which 
provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce.  They are 
essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies 
within agreed limits. 

   The availability of dietary supplements to the public is 
important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put 
the consumer's health at stake.  I believe that if we are to ensure the 
safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure 
that these supplements are not hazardous to their health.  We cannot 
allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to 
continue.   Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the 
WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so.

Again, thank you for writing.  I hope that you will continue to 
keep me informed of your views and concerns.  If you should have 
further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate 
to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my 
website at http://feinstein.senate.gov. 

   



Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

http://feinstein.senate.gov


Paula Perry wrote: 
  This article explains the whole situation we are facing regarding CAFTA 
and CODEX. I am sending it because we all need to act quickly. CAFTA is in 
trouble. There is a slim chance it will not pass. 
  Paula

   http://www.thenhf.com/newsflash_49.htm





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RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-09 Thread Ed Kasper
A drug search for ephedrine  (the isolated ingredient of the
herb ma/ ephedra, plenty of OTC products. So it is still out
there. There is a warning on Sudafed  that overdose makes
you drowsy. But pop a handful and you'll get a buzz (so they
say, I never tried it). You may be right and maybe ephedra
was unadulterated compared to Sudafed but IMO, BOTH
products were made by phamaucitcals (not by a herbalist).

Here's a question.

Drug Companies routinely produce many times over the number
of legal prescriptions (or OTC sales) as the legitimate
demand call for - including the free samples. They have been
doing this for years.  Why in a business sense would they
continue to produce say 1,000 units when they can only sell
or give away 100 units ???

Since OUR government has statistics on everything ... like
how many eggs the average American eats per year, I wonder
how many Sudafed's each American consumes (buys) versus how
many Sudafed's (ephedrine) are produced each year.
(Referring to previous posts) that answer will show that
Senator Feinstein's (D-CA) heart is in the right place -
depending upon who you're working for that is...

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.


-Original Message-
From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net
[mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


Hi,

It is my opinion ephedra was competing with prescription
speed/diet pills
and therefore needed to be removed.  Not because they were
worried about
anyone but because it was losing revenue for the pharma
companies.  It is
all about money and they don't take kindly to anyone
lowering their profits.

Jean

**

 Although I've never heard it said (other than by me) it is
my personal
 opinion that ephedra was banned in order to dry up an
uncontrolled
 source of an ingredient which could be used to make
crystal methadrine
 (speed)...

 Dan


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Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-08 Thread Raine

Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening.

Dear Mrs. :

  Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the 
Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade 
Organization (WTO).  I appreciate the time you took to write. 

	I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you 
know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of 
trade between countries.  At its heart are the WTO agreements, 
negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which 
provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce.  They are 
essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies 
within agreed limits. 

  The availability of dietary supplements to the public is 
important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put 
the consumer's health at stake.  I believe that if we are to ensure the 
safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure 
that these supplements are not hazardous to their health.*  *We cannot 
allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to 
continue.   Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the 
WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so.


	Again, thank you for writing.  I hope that you will continue to 
keep me informed of your views and concerns.  If you should have 
further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate 
to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my 
website at http://feinstein.senate.gov. 

  




Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

http://feinstein.senate.gov



Paula Perry wrote:

This article explains the whole situation we are facing regarding 
CAFTA and CODEX. I am sending it because we all need to act quickly. 
CAFTA is in trouble. There is a slim chance it will not pass.

Paula

 http://www.thenhf.com/newsflash_49.htm




Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-08 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Sen Feinstein should worry about the 100,000 plus deaths caused each year by 
the side effects of lawful and correctly prescribed medications. It is 
hypocresy to the nth degree!
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raine 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


  Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening.


Dear Mrs. :

   Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the 
Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade 
Organization (WTO).  I appreciate the time you took to write. 

I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you 
know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of 
trade between countries.  At its heart are the WTO agreements, 
negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which 
provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce.  They are 
essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies 
within agreed limits. 

   The availability of dietary supplements to the public is 
important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put 
the consumer's health at stake.  I believe that if we are to ensure the 
safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure 
that these supplements are not hazardous to their health.  We cannot 
allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to 
continue.   Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the 
WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so.

Again, thank you for writing.  I hope that you will continue to 
keep me informed of your views and concerns.  If you should have 
further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate 
to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my 
website at http://feinstein.senate.gov. 

   



Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

http://feinstein.senate.gov

  Paula Perry wrote: 
This article explains the whole situation we are facing regarding CAFTA and 
CODEX. I am sending it because we all need to act quickly. CAFTA is in trouble. 
There is a slim chance it will not pass. 
Paula

 http://www.thenhf.com/newsflash_49.htm

Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-08 Thread Paula Perry
Senator Feinstein already voted YES to CAFTA. She was one of something like 12 
Democrats to side with Republicans to vote FOR CAFTA in the Senate where it has 
already passed. (These people have strong ties and obligations to big Pharma.)  
It will probably come up for a vote July 11 in the House where it is in 
trouble, so we need to keep the heat on. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raine 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


  Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening.


Dear Mrs. :

   Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the 
Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade 
Organization (WTO).  I appreciate the time you took to write. 

I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you 
know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of 
trade between countries.  At its heart are the WTO agreements, 
negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which 
provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce.  They are 
essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies 
within agreed limits. 

   The availability of dietary supplements to the public is 
important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put 
the consumer's health at stake.  I believe that if we are to ensure the 
safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure 
that these supplements are not hazardous to their health.  We cannot 
allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to 
continue.   Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the 
WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so.

Again, thank you for writing.  I hope that you will continue to 
keep me informed of your views and concerns.  If you should have 
further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate 
to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my 
website at http://feinstein.senate.gov. 

   



Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

http://feinstein.senate.gov

  Paula Perry wrote: 
This article explains the whole situation we are facing regarding CAFTA and 
CODEX. I am sending it because we all need to act quickly. CAFTA is in trouble. 
There is a slim chance it will not pass. 
Paula

 http://www.thenhf.com/newsflash_49.htm


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RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-08 Thread Ed Kasper
I believe it is important to note here that she points out specifically to
the few deaths caused by dietary supplement Ephedra, to
continue  as the rationale to protect the people . Specifically in this case
ephedra was a concentrated isolated standardized form of a common herb. This
phyto--Pharmacia was used and promoted in a way in which the herb  by itself
would never be used for. Herbalist have  always cautioned in its use and was
not for long term use.  IN EFFECT  this  phyto--Pharmacia ephedra was
responsible for killing and injuring people and while the simple whole herb,
ephedra - got the blame. How could anyone make such a simple mistake? . Just
as if one took the simple herb foxglove isolated, concentrated and
standardized it into DIGITALIS it would be a drug and it as all drugs would
kill people.   Or where making a simple tea from the simple herb St John's
Wort  be as effective as the Anti-depressive drugs (and without side
affects)  yet when St John's Wort was concentrated isolated and standardized
blamed on liver failure. YET there are no reported cases of the herb ma
huang (ephedra)  or the herb St John's Wort being associated with death or
even injury !!!

Where both Ma Huang and St John's Wort  grow wild and may be made as a
simple tea that offers relief quickly and affective  it does take certain
degree of expertise and expensive equipment to produce a concentrated,
standardized  isolation of  a single ingredient. Then to market and promote
such a product without  any concerns of known reactions. ... .who would
profit from such madness ...

Ephedra - which was sold and marketed in Health Food Stores across the USA
as a isolated, standardized concentrated extract was specifically promoted
and marketed as a street drug. All those involved in this action knew it was
speed. They also knew speed helped reduce the appetite (lose weight) and
gave one lots of energy. It was also aimed at kids and ALL those involved in
this knowingly were selling drugs.  BTW, you can still LEGALLY BUY Ephedra
at your local __drugstore__. Its over the counter (no prescription needed)
Sudafed (and a few other brand names)

Thank God,  the PRESS and the Government protect the people...

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.



 -Original Message-
From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


  Sen Feinstein should worry about the 100,000 plus deaths caused each year
by the side effects of lawful and correctly prescribed medications. It is
hypocresy to the nth degree!
  Frank
- Original Message -
From: Raine
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening.


Dear Mrs. :

   Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the
Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade
Organization (WTO).  I appreciate the time you took to write.

I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you
know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of
trade between countries.  At its heart are the WTO agreements,
negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which
provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce.  They are
essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies
within agreed limits.

   The availability of dietary supplements to the public is
important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put
the consumer's health at stake.  I believe that if we are to ensure the
safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure
that these supplements are not hazardous to their health.  We cannot
allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to
continue.   Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the
WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so.

Again, thank you for writing.  I hope that you will continue to
keep me informed of your views and concerns.  If you should have
further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate
to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my
website at http://feinstein.senate.gov.





Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

http://feinstein.senate.gov

Paula Perry wrote:
  This article explains the whole situation we are facing regarding
CAFTA and CODEX. I am sending it because we all need to act quickly. CAFTA
is in trouble. There is a slim chance it will not pass.
  Paula

   http://www.thenhf.com/newsflash_49.htm


Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-08 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Incidentally, a judge has reversed the FDA ban on Ephedra and is again 
available. 
Regards
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ed Kasper 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:03 PM
  Subject: RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


  I believe it is important to note here that she points out specifically to 
the few deaths caused by dietary supplement Ephedra, to 
  continue  as the rationale to protect the people . Specifically in this case 
ephedra was a concentrated isolated standardized form of a common herb. This 
phyto--Pharmacia was used and promoted in a way in which the herb  by itself 
would never be used for. Herbalist have  always cautioned in its use and was 
not for long term use.  IN EFFECT  this  phyto--Pharmacia ephedra was 
responsible for killing and injuring people and while the simple whole herb, 
ephedra - got the blame. How could anyone make such a simple mistake? . Just as 
if one took the simple herb foxglove isolated, concentrated and standardized it 
into DIGITALIS it would be a drug and it as all drugs would kill people.   Or 
where making a simple tea from the simple herb St John's Wort  be as effective 
as the Anti-depressive drugs (and without side affects)  yet when St John's 
Wort was concentrated isolated and standardized blamed on liver failure. YET 
there are no reported cases of the herb ma huang (ephedra)  or the herb St 
John's Wort being associated with death or even injury !!!

  Where both Ma Huang and St John's Wort  grow wild and may be made as a simple 
tea that offers relief quickly and affective  it does take certain degree of 
expertise and expensive equipment to produce a concentrated, standardized  
isolation of  a single ingredient. Then to market and promote such a product 
without  any concerns of known reactions. ... .who would profit from such 
madness ...

  Ephedra - which was sold and marketed in Health Food Stores across the USA as 
a isolated, standardized concentrated extract was specifically promoted and 
marketed as a street drug. All those involved in this action knew it was speed. 
They also knew speed helped reduce the appetite (lose weight) and gave one lots 
of energy. It was also aimed at kids and ALL those involved in this knowingly 
were selling drugs.  BTW, you can still LEGALLY BUY Ephedra at your local 
__drugstore__. Its over the counter (no prescription needed) Sudafed (and a few 
other brand names)

  Thank God,  the PRESS and the Government protect the people...

  Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
  Acupuncture is a jab well done
  www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA. 



   -Original Message-
  From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net]
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:37 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


Sen Feinstein should worry about the 100,000 plus deaths caused each year 
by the side effects of lawful and correctly prescribed medications. It is 
hypocresy to the nth degree!
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raine 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release


  Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening.


Dear Mrs. :

   Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the 
Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade 
Organization (WTO).  I appreciate the time you took to write. 

I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you 
know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of 
trade between countries.  At its heart are the WTO agreements, 
negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which 
provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce.  They are 
essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies 
within agreed limits. 

   The availability of dietary supplements to the public is 
important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put 
the consumer's health at stake.  I believe that if we are to ensure the 
safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure 
that these supplements are not hazardous to their health.  We cannot 
allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to 
continue.   Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the 
WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so.

Again, thank you for writing.  I hope that you will continue to 
keep me informed of your views and concerns.  If you should have 
further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate 
to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my 
website at http://feinstein.senate.gov. 

   



Sincerely yours

RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

2005-07-08 Thread Dan Nave
Although I've never heard it said (other than by me) it is my personal 
opinion that ephedra was banned in order to dry up an uncontrolled 
source of an ingredient which could be used to make crystal methadrine 
(speed)...


Dan





RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release

* From: Ed Kasper wrote:
* Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:02:02




I
believe it is
important to note here that she points out specifically to the few
deaths caused
by dietary supplement Ephedra, to

continue  as the rationale
to protect
the people . Specifically in this case ephedra was a concentrated
isolated
standardized form of a common herb. This phyto--Pharmacia was used
and
promoted in a way in which the herb  by itself would never be used
for.
Herbalist have  always cautioned in its use and was not for
long term
use.  IN EFFECT  this  phyto--Pharmacia ephedra was
responsible
for killing and injuring people and while the simple whole herb, ephedra
- got
the blame. How could anyone make such a simple mistake? . Just as if one
took
the simple herb foxglove isolated, concentrated and standardized it into

DIGITALIS it would be a drug and it as all drugs would kill
people.
Or where making a simple tea from the simple herb St John's Wort
be as
effective as the Anti-depressive drugs (and without side affects)
yet when
St John's Wort was concentrated isolated and standardized blamed on
liver
failure. YET there are no reported cases of the herb ma huang
(ephedra)  or
the herb St John's Wort being associated with death or even injury
!!!

Where
both Ma Huang and St John's Wort  grow wild and may be made as
a
simple tea that offers relief quickly and affective  it does
take certain degree of expertise and expensive equipment to
produce a
concentrated, standardized  isolation of  a
single ingredient.
Then to market and promote such a product
without  any
concerns of known reactions. ... .who would profit from such madness

...

Ephedra - which
was sold and marketed in Health Food Stores across the USA as a
isolated,
standardized concentrated extract was specifically promoted and marketed
as a
street drug. All those involved in this action knew it was speed. They
also knew
speed helped reduce the appetite (lose weight) and gave one lots of
energy. It
was also aimed at kids and ALL those involved in this knowingly were
selling
drugs.  BTW, you can still LEGALLY BUY Ephedra at your local
__drugstore__. Its over the counter (no prescription needed) Sudafed
(and a few
other brand names)

Thank God,
the PRESS and the Government protect the people...



Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist 
Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well
done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.





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