RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
YES, it is being sold but that does not mean it is not banned or that the internet site (if American) can not be persecuted by the FDA. Specifically it is a federal violation to offer for sale __Red Yeast Rice_ with any links to any medical claim such as the university study that indicates Red Yeast Rice is as effective as any prescription drug. Under that set of circumstances the FDA will classify Red Yeast Rice as a New Drug and take legal action against that individual for selling drugs without a federal license. In all honesty, people are buying those products (capsules, etc) with the intent of lowering their cholesterol. BTW, not everything on the internet is legal. And it is not that several products are similar to. It is specially that all Red Yeast Rice. contain statin which is the identifier in all cholesterol lowering drugs. Again similar to the ban on the Chinese herb Ma Huang because it contains ephedrine. As does other herbs which may fall under the FDA ban as well. Although many pharmacies OTC drugs remain on store shelf that also contain ephedrine ! It is at the discretion of the FDA and who they choose to persecute. The problem with home users is that there is truth in what the FDA is saying. (I can't believe I'm saying that !!) It is dangerous to combine Red Yeast Rice with cholesterol lowering drugs. IMO, cholesterol lowering drugs - not Red Yeast Rice - that should be banned. But the combination is life threatening. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Red Yeast Rice hasn't been banned. It is available from dozens of websites. However, several products made from Red Yeast Rice are currently 'banned' because they are similar enough to patented drugs that patent infringement lawsuits have been filed. That is all. Nothing too insidius. What are all ya'll going to do in August of this year when NONE of your dire predictions come to pass? (Can you say Y2K?) George From: Denise Every To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___ I did a quick search and red yeast rice is still being sold, I found it on multiple sites, Vitamin Shoppe being one. I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. But I don't know what the date of this article is, the web site has a copyright date of 2000... maybe the FDA took some other action since and reversed its 2001 decision? Denise
Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
it is being sold but that does not mean it is not banned or that the internet site (if American) can not be persecuted by the FDA. It's also being advertised for sale in printed catalogs from some vitamin companies, not just the Internet. And the sites I mentioned the other day *were* from American companies. I think you meant 'prosecuted' by the FDA, though, not persecuted? Although persecuted is quite apt! G Specifically it is a federal violation to offer for sale __Red Yeast Rice_ with any links to any medical claim such as the university study that indicates Red Yeast Rice is as effective as any prescription drug. These are not being sold with any claims whatsoever, just that it is red yeast rice, period. Maybe that's how they're able to do so, by not making any claims or comparisons. BTW, not everything on the internet is legal. Really? Darn. :) Now I suppose you're going to tell me there is no Santa Claus! The problem with home users is that there is truth in what the FDA is saying. (I can't believe I'm saying that !!) I hear you... every once in a while the FDA does something that actually makes me suspect it might occasionally act in people's best interest, and not corporate best interest. But I imagine if there was corporate interest in this or other natural products, the FDA would find a way to accomodate them. It is dangerous to combine Red Yeast Rice with cholesterol lowering drugs. IMO, cholesterol lowering drugs - not Red Yeast Rice - that should be banned. But the combination is life threatening Well, this is of course important to know, anything that has possible interactions with other products should be made widely known. I totally agree with you about the statinsI think they're dangerous drugs, period. The more I read about them, the more concerned I am. It bothers me that my mother takes them and I can't seem to convince her that in her situation (a woman over 65) they offer her absolutely NO decreased risk of heart attack and higher risks of cancer. She is afraid to go against her doctor, or even question him about it...and there are so many people who think like that. Denise
Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
This rationale is typical GOV-SPEAK. A logical and rational mind might question that if they found a way to extract the active ingredients of Red Yeast Rice (or Caffeine from coffee), are they entitled to patent the product ((Mevacor and [Caffeine]) and have it approved as a drug? An Engineer's best regards, Al - Original Message - From: Denise Every To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___ I did a quick search and red yeast rice is still being sold, I found it on multiple sites, Vitamin Shoppe being one. I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. But I don't know what the date of this article is, the web site has a copyright date of 2000... maybe the FDA took some other action since and reversed its 2001 decision? Denise
RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
They wanted to make anything that had any metabolic effect on the human body a drug, including water. -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Interesting that the Food and drug Admin took action against a food because it acted better than a drug. Red yeast gave Ginger the redness in pickled ginger and other foods. Still haven't got a reply from my email to the FDA. Has anyone on the list tried a direct inquiry? Ed -Original Message- From: Denise Every [mailto:deni...@citlink.net] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol So was ephedra, but they got that banned but maybe red yeast rice hasn't been linked to anyone dying, so they had less grounds? - Original Message - From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Hi Denise, Red Yeast Rice was here long before Mevacor, so perhaps the 'grandfather' clause saved it. I'm sure the FDA would love to keep this one off the market for their buddies but to say it was chemically too similar to the prescription Mevacor as an excuse was idiotic, even for them. Jean * I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. Denise
Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
Red Yeast Rice hasn't been banned. It is available from dozens of websites. However, several products made from Red Yeast Rice are currently 'banned' because they are similar enough to patented drugs that patent infringement lawsuits have been filed. That is all. Nothing too insidius. What are all ya'll going to do in August of this year when NONE of your dire predictions come to pass? (Can you say Y2K?) George From: Denise Every To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___ I did a quick search and red yeast rice is still being sold, I found it on multiple sites, Vitamin Shoppe being one. I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. But I don't know what the date of this article is, the web site has a copyright date of 2000... maybe the FDA took some other action since and reversed its 2001 decision? Denise
Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___ I did a quick search and red yeast rice is still being sold, I found it on multiple sites, Vitamin Shoppe being one. I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. But I don't know what the date of this article is, the web site has a copyright date of 2000... maybe the FDA took some other action since and reversed its 2001 decision? Denise
Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
Red Yeast Rice CholesterolSo was ephedra, but they got that banned but maybe red yeast rice hasn't been linked to anyone dying, so they had less grounds? - Original Message - From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Hi Denise, Red Yeast Rice was here long before Mevacor, so perhaps the 'grandfather' clause saved it. I'm sure the FDA would love to keep this one off the market for their buddies but to say it was chemically too similar to the prescription Mevacor as an excuse was idiotic, even for them. Jean * I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. Denise
RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___the FDA there upon classified Red Yeast a New Drug and banned its importation. I emailed the FDA and never got a reply (that I know of). WARNING one should not take red yeast when they are taking zocor, etc as they effect will be too strong and side affects will happen. Do a web search under Distillers Grain and you'll find its used as livestock feed and being studied as an alternative to antibiotics etc. Healthier and more beneficial for livestock ... so the FDA bans it for human consumption. I think a google on Statin drugs will also show up red yeasts, or fermented foods. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Faye [mailto:fkill...@bayou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:59 AM To: Lynda Khula; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Lynda do some research on red yeast rice. It is supposed to be very good to lower cholesterol. Faye - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I am sure in most cases this is true, but I have been taking zocor for the last 18 years and my good cholesterol count is horrible, I have had 3 attacks of pancreastitis in the last 15 years and my gal bladder removed on the last attack want to stop taking the zocor so am looking into different things, thanks for all the info I have now been told I have MSX I am now taking all the things mentioned here and then a lot more last count 23 different herbs, would like to cut it down to less Lynda
Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
thank you for all your info, gives me something to go by Lynda --- Original Message - From: Ed Kasper To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___the FDA there upon classified Red Yeast a New Drug and banned its importation. I emailed the FDA and never got a reply (that I know of). WARNING one should not take red yeast when they are taking zocor, etc as they effect will be too strong and side affects will happen. Do a web search under Distillers Grain and you'll find its used as livestock feed and being studied as an alternative to antibiotics etc. Healthier and more beneficial for livestock ... so the FDA bans it for human consumption. I think a google on Statin drugs will also show up red yeasts, or fermented foods. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Faye [mailto:fkill...@bayou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:59 AM To: Lynda Khula; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Lynda do some research on red yeast rice. It is supposed to be very good to lower cholesterol. Faye - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I am sure in most cases this is true, but I have been taking zocor for the last 18 years and my good cholesterol count is horrible, I have had 3 attacks of pancreastitis in the last 15 years and my gal bladder removed on the last attack want to stop taking the zocor so am looking into different things, thanks for all the info I have now been told I have MSX I am now taking all the things mentioned here and then a lot more last count 23 different herbs, would like to cut it down to less Lynda
