Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-13 Thread Brickeyk
In a message dated 9/11/2006 11:13:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
oldgl...@bigcountry.net writes:
Secondly if Dr Christopher was having success with a  40,000 HU cayenne, 
maybe heat is not so much a factor as is the type of herb  that he used. 
Habanero's were certainly available for Dr Christopher to choose  from
How much tabasco would be equal to a t of cayenne?
Brickey


RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-13 Thread Ed Kasper
As a herbalist they are not equal.
Cayenne is a specific type of hot pepper.
Tabasco is about 40,000 HU. Low by today's standard and what's on the
market.
For an emergency anything HOT, as HOT as one can get and take is the
recommendation (SCHULTZ)

Don't forget to add the CS
Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.


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  In a message dated 9/11/2006 11:13:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
oldgl...@bigcountry.net writes:
Secondly if Dr Christopher was having success with a  40,000 HU cayenne,
maybe heat is not so much a factor as is the type of herb  that he used.
Habanero's were certainly available for Dr Christopher to choose  from
  How much tabasco would be equal to a t of cayenne?
  Brickey


RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-11 Thread Ed Kasper
My point was truth in labeling.
Habanero are not cayenne.
Secondly if Dr Christopher was having success with a 40,000 HU cayenne,
maybe heat is not so much a factor as is the type of herb that he used.
Habanero's were certainly available for Dr Christopher to choose from.
and Tabasco is readily available, affordable and with a well deserved
reputation.

Finally, only a few have addressed my question of using a combination of CS
and hot peppers

BTW, Dennis did you ever try to just collect the oils form the peppers. Try
heating for a long time just below boiling. The oil will come to the top and
can be collected. That stuff will really be all hot.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.




  -Original Message-
  From: Dennis Gulenchin [mailto:dgulenc...@mts.net]
  Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:57 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


  Almost every local grocery has fresh habanero peppers in the produce
section for a reasonable price. I have purchased these, (when I run out of
my homegrown chili peppers)dried and ground them up and they are noticeably
hotter than the chili peppers.
  Dennis


  Ed Kasper wrote:

ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne.
.is really habanero peppers ???

According to Curing with Cayenne, Schultz stated  ...Dr
Christopher was using the low potency 40,000 unit
cayenne page 41

tobasco is hotter than 40,000

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



-Original Message-
From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


   i recently purchased a new bottle of cayenne
extract.  this time i found Dr Christopher's original
formula hot cayenne.  it still uses grain alcohol and
includes habanero pepper (200,000 hu). i have read
that habanero can be used instead of the cayenne.  i
understand it can be purchased at Teeter Creek herbs
if requested.
   i do not think tobasco pepper would be hot enough
and would not rely on their use in the case of a heart
attack unless i had no choice.  many people keep
cayenne pepper (powdered) in their spice cabinet.  it
is not expensive and can be found in the local grocery
or  fresher, higher hu can be found in the herb shops
or Whole Foods markets.
   many people also keep an emergency first aid kit in
their homes and cars.  it would be simple enough to
purchase a bottle of the extract to keep to include in
this kit so one would find it easily in an emergency.
these one ounce bottles cost $10 - $14.
julie


--- M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

  Remember the question I was asking was whether the
tabasco sauce many
folks would have in the cupboard would be useful
first aid for a heart
attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper.

It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or
use whatever's at
hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure.
Anything would be better
than nothing? What about other hot sauces?



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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-11 Thread Acmeair

what are you using to dry your peppers? jim

Dennis Gulenchin wrote:

Almost every local grocery has fresh habanero peppers in the produce 
section for a reasonable price. I have purchased these, (when I run 
out of my homegrown chili peppers)dried and ground them up and they 
are noticeably hotter than the chili peppers.

Dennis




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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-11 Thread Dennis Gulenchin

Thanks for the tip about the pepper oil Ed, I will have to give that a try.
Dennis


Ed Kasper wrote:


My point was truth in labeling.
Habanero are not cayenne.
Secondly if Dr Christopher was having success with a 40,000 HU 
cayenne, maybe heat is not so much a factor as is the type of herb 
that he used. Habanero's were certainly available for Dr Christopher 
to choose from.
and Tabasco is readily available, affordable and with a well deserved 
reputation.
 
Finally, only a few have addressed my question of using a combination 
of CS and hot peppers
 
BTW, Dennis did you ever try to just collect the oils form the 
peppers. Try heating for a long time just below boiling. The oil will 
come to the top and can be collected. That stuff will really be all hot.
 


Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.





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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-11 Thread Dennis Gulenchin

Hi Jim,
Up till now I have been using a Ronco food dehydrator but last week my 
sister gave me her American harvester dehydrator so I will start using 
it instead - (it should be much better  as it has a fan).
If there are too many green peppers I just let them air dry so that they 
turn red before they become dry.

Dennis

Acmeair wrote:


what are you using to dry your peppers? jim

Dennis Gulenchin wrote:

Almost every local grocery has fresh habanero peppers in the produce 
section for a reasonable price. I have purchased these, (when I run 
out of my homegrown chili peppers)dried and ground them up and they 
are noticeably hotter than the chili peppers.

Dennis




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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-10 Thread Dennis Gulenchin
Almost every local grocery has fresh habanero peppers in the produce 
section for a reasonable price. I have purchased these, (when I run out 
of my homegrown chili peppers)dried and ground them up and they are 
noticeably hotter than the chili peppers.

Dennis



Ed Kasper wrote:


ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne.
.is really habanero peppers ???

According to Curing with Cayenne, Schultz stated  ...Dr
Christopher was using the low potency 40,000 unit
cayenne page 41

tobasco is hotter than 40,000

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



-Original Message-
From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


  i recently purchased a new bottle of cayenne
extract.  this time i found Dr Christopher's original
formula hot cayenne.  it still uses grain alcohol and
includes habanero pepper (200,000 hu). i have read
that habanero can be used instead of the cayenne.  i
understand it can be purchased at Teeter Creek herbs
if requested.
  i do not think tobasco pepper would be hot enough
and would not rely on their use in the case of a heart
attack unless i had no choice.  many people keep
cayenne pepper (powdered) in their spice cabinet.  it
is not expensive and can be found in the local grocery
or  fresher, higher hu can be found in the herb shops
or Whole Foods markets.
  many people also keep an emergency first aid kit in
their homes and cars.  it would be simple enough to
purchase a bottle of the extract to keep to include in
this kit so one would find it easily in an emergency.
these one ounce bottles cost $10 - $14.
julie


--- M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

 


Remember the question I was asking was whether the
tabasco sauce many
folks would have in the cupboard would be useful
first aid for a heart
attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper.

It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or
use whatever's at
hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure.
Anything would be better
than nothing? What about other hot sauces?

   




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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread M. G. Devour
Yumm. Sounds good, Dennis. I miss gardening. Haven't done so since I 
was about 14.

Remember the question I was asking was whether the tabasco sauce many 
folks would have in the cupboard would be useful first aid for a heart 
attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper.

It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or use whatever's at 
hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure. Anything would be better 
than nothing? What about other hot sauces?

Be well,

Mike D.

 Mike,
 I grow chili peppers every year to be dried an ground up and the pods
 look like the tabasco variety but the plant is not as big or bushy. They
 are about a foot high with about 50 pods per plant. There is some good
 info and pictures at Pepper Profile: Capsicum Frutescens
 http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_frutescens.html  According to
 this site, the species name frutescens means shrubby or bushy. Dennis
 
 M. G. Devour wrote:
 
 Well, I got an answer to my question about the peppers used in Tabasco
 sauce. Don't know exactly what it means, though...
 
 Mike D.
 
 --- Forwarded message follows ---
 To:  M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: Simple ingredient question...
 From:Whats Cooking whatscook...@tabasco.com
 Date sent:   Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:33:25 -0500
 
 Thank you for your email of recent date. No, TABASCO(R) Peppers are
 Capsicum frutescens, TABASCO(R) variety.  Cayenne peppers are Capsicum
 annum. Thank you for your interest in our company and our products. 
 
 
 M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com 
 08/31/2006 07:59 AM
 
 To: whatscook...@tabasco.com
 
 Subject: Simple ingredient question...
 
 
 Are the peppers you use a variety of cayenne, or some other pepper
 entirely?
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 --- End of forwarded message ---
 
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RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread Ed Kasper
Any Hot pepper works. according to Richard Schulze in
Curing with Cayenne page 119
IMO, however cayenne does have properties others don't (that
we know about)

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


Yumm. Sounds good, Dennis. I miss gardening. Haven't done so
since I
was about 14.

Remember the question I was asking was whether the tabasco
sauce many
folks would have in the cupboard would be useful first aid
for a heart
attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper.

It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or use
whatever's at
hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure. Anything would
be better
than nothing? What about other hot sauces?

Be well,

Mike D.

 Mike,
 I grow chili peppers every year to be dried an ground up
and the pods
 look like the tabasco variety but the plant is not as big
or bushy. They
 are about a foot high with about 50 pods per plant. There
is some good
 info and pictures at Pepper Profile: Capsicum Frutescens
 http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_frutescens.html
According to
 this site, the species name frutescens means shrubby or
bushy. Dennis

 M. G. Devour wrote:

 Well, I got an answer to my question about the peppers
used in Tabasco
 sauce. Don't know exactly what it means, though...
 
 Mike D.
 
 --- Forwarded message follows ---
 To:  M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: Simple ingredient question...
 From:Whats Cooking
whatscook...@tabasco.com
 Date sent:   Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:33:25 -0500
 
 Thank you for your email of recent date. No, TABASCO(R)
Peppers are
 Capsicum frutescens, TABASCO(R) variety.  Cayenne peppers
are Capsicum
 annum. Thank you for your interest in our company and our
products.
 
 
 M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 08/31/2006 07:59 AM
 
 To: whatscook...@tabasco.com
 
 Subject: Simple ingredient question...
 
 
 Are the peppers you use a variety of cayenne, or some
other pepper
 entirely?
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 --- End of forwarded message ---
 
 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
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RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread Ed Kasper
ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne.
.is really habanero peppers ???

According to Curing with Cayenne, Schultz stated  ...Dr
Christopher was using the low potency 40,000 unit
cayenne page 41

tobasco is hotter than 40,000

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



-Original Message-
From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


   i recently purchased a new bottle of cayenne
extract.  this time i found Dr Christopher's original
formula hot cayenne.  it still uses grain alcohol and
includes habanero pepper (200,000 hu). i have read
that habanero can be used instead of the cayenne.  i
understand it can be purchased at Teeter Creek herbs
if requested.
   i do not think tobasco pepper would be hot enough
and would not rely on their use in the case of a heart
attack unless i had no choice.  many people keep
cayenne pepper (powdered) in their spice cabinet.  it
is not expensive and can be found in the local grocery
or  fresher, higher hu can be found in the herb shops
or Whole Foods markets.
   many people also keep an emergency first aid kit in
their homes and cars.  it would be simple enough to
purchase a bottle of the extract to keep to include in
this kit so one would find it easily in an emergency.
these one ounce bottles cost $10 - $14.
julie


--- M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Remember the question I was asking was whether the
 tabasco sauce many
 folks would have in the cupboard would be useful
 first aid for a heart
 attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper.

 It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or
 use whatever's at
 hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure.
 Anything would be better
 than nothing? What about other hot sauces?



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RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread julie martin
no, it apparently has both cayenne and habanero.  i
have read elsewhere that habanero can be used in
place of the cayenne.  i just found it interesting
that the bottle states Dr Christopher's Original
Formula and the ingredients are propriety blend and
habanero.
julie

--- Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote:

 ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot
 cayenne.
 .is really habanero peppers ???


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RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread Ed Kasper
Yes, I agree.
IMO,  Dr Christopher contributed much to American herbal
medicine especially by making his formulas public and not
propriety.
IF the manufacture of his products benefit Dr Christopher's
family that I would like to support them, otherwise 

Schulze (and others) often refer to Dr Christopher, and use
his formulas as a bases for their own. They also make their
own formulas but more often state what is in the formula.
Truth in labeling should be truthful. As a herbalist myself
my clients know they can make their own, but often prefer me
to make it for them. No problems.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
 Santa Cruz, CA.

-Original Message-
From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 10:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSTabasco peppers...


no, it apparently has both cayenne and habanero.  i
have read elsewhere that habanero can be used in
place of the cayenne.  i just found it interesting
that the bottle states Dr Christopher's Original
Formula and the ingredients are propriety blend and
habanero.
julie

--- Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote:

 ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot
 cayenne.
 .is really habanero peppers ???


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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread Acmeair

Show me a Heat Scale of peppers ranging from mild to hot.

Changing local weather conditions affect the heat level of peppers - 
which means the Scoville ratings shown below are averages. Some peppers 
are listed in two different cateogory ranges due to the variation.



 Pepper Heat Scale


100,000-350,000 Habanero; Scotch Bonnet
50,000-100,000  Chiltepin; Cayenne; Tabasco
30,000-50,000   Aji; Piquin; Tabasco
15,000-30,000   de Arbol
5,000-15,000Serrano; Early jalapeno; Aji Amarillo
2,500-5,000 jalapeno; Mirasol
1,500-2,500 Sandia; cascabel; Yellow Wax Hot
1,000-1,500 Ancho; Pasilla
500-1,000   Anaheim; New Mexican
100-500 Bell; Pimento


What's in TABASCO^® sauce?

TABASCO brand pepper sauce is made with three simple ingredients: 
fully-aged red pepper, high grain all-natural vinegar, and a small 
amount of salt mined right on Avery Island. It's pure pepper sauce—no 
additives whatsoever.


lot of good info on www.tabasco.com jim



laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I think tabasco sauce is made with scotch bonnet peppers if I'm not 
mistaken.

DByron



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RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread Ed Kasper
 high grain all-natural vinegar, I would take to mean higher than the common 5% 
acetic acid which is referred to as 5 grains, found in most store bought 
vinegars. While 8 grains (8% acetic acid) is used in pickling. Tabasco's high 
grain may refer to a higher than 5% acetic acid level. 

That could mean a longer shelf life if one were to water down their Tabasco 
with CS. IMO, an acetic acid level of 2% would be good for close to one year, 
not counting any anti pathogenic preservative effects of the CS.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist 
Santa Cruz, CA. 

-Original Message-
From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


Show me a Heat Scale of peppers ranging from mild to hot.

Changing local weather conditions affect the heat level of peppers - 
which means the Scoville ratings shown below are averages. Some peppers 
are listed in two different cateogory ranges due to the variation.


  Pepper Heat Scale


100,000-350,000 Habanero; Scotch Bonnet
50,000-100,000  Chiltepin; Cayenne; Tabasco
30,000-50,000   Aji; Piquin; Tabasco
15,000-30,000   de Arbol
5,000-15,000Serrano; Early jalapeno; Aji Amarillo
2,500-5,000 jalapeno; Mirasol
1,500-2,500 Sandia; cascabel; Yellow Wax Hot
1,000-1,500 Ancho; Pasilla
500-1,000   Anaheim; New Mexican
100-500 Bell; Pimento


What's in TABASCO^® sauce?

TABASCO brand pepper sauce is made with three simple ingredients: 
fully-aged red pepper, high grain all-natural vinegar, and a small 
amount of salt mined right on Avery Island. It's pure pepper sauce—no 
additives whatsoever.

lot of good info on www.tabasco.com jim





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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-09 Thread Staya Udanvti Bob Butler
I buy bulk 130 MHU cayenne from  http://www.herbalcom.com/ . 
I use to make my own tincture using vodka


All hot peppers have the capsaicin alkaloids that cause the 'heat' . 
Pure capsaicin  rates 15 to 16 million Scoville heat units.

http://www.chilliworld.com/FactFile/Scoville_Scale.asp

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti


- Original Message - 
From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers...


Show me a Heat Scale of peppers ranging from mild to hot.

Changing local weather conditions affect the heat level of peppers - 
which means the Scoville ratings shown below are averages. Some peppers 
are listed in two different cateogory ranges due to the variation.



 Pepper Heat Scale


100,000-350,000 Habanero; Scotch Bonnet
50,000-100,000 Chiltepin; Cayenne; Tabasco
30,000-50,000 Aji; Piquin; Tabasco
15,000-30,000 de Arbol
5,000-15,000 Serrano; Early jalapeno; Aji Amarillo
2,500-5,000 jalapeno; Mirasol
1,500-2,500 Sandia; cascabel; Yellow Wax Hot
1,000-1,500 Ancho; Pasilla
500-1,000 Anaheim; New Mexican
100-500 Bell; Pimento


SNIP


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RE: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-08 Thread Dan Nave
 http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_frutescens.html



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From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTabasco peppers...

Well, I got an answer to my question about the peppers used in Tabasco
sauce. Don't know exactly what it means, though...

Mike D.


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Re: CSTabasco peppers...

2006-09-08 Thread Dennis Gulenchin

Mike,
I grow chili peppers every year to be dried an ground up and the pods 
look like the tabasco variety but the plant is not as big or bushy. They 
are about a foot high with about 50 pods per plant. There is some good 
info and pictures at Pepper Profile: Capsicum Frutescens 
http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_frutescens.html  According to 
this site, the species name frutescens means shrubby or bushy.

Dennis

M. G. Devour wrote:

Well, I got an answer to my question about the peppers used in Tabasco 
sauce. Don't know exactly what it means, though...


Mike D.

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To: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: Simple ingredient question...
From:   Whats Cooking whatscook...@tabasco.com
Date sent:  Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:33:25 -0500

Thank you for your email of recent date. No, TABASCO(R) Peppers are 
Capsicum frutescens, TABASCO(R) variety.  Cayenne peppers are Capsicum
annum. Thank you for your interest in our company and our products. 



M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com 
08/31/2006 07:59 AM


To: whatscook...@tabasco.com

Subject: Simple ingredient question...


Are the peppers you use a variety of cayenne, or some other pepper
entirely?

Be well,

Mike D.

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