Re: CS>Codex arrives
Yes, bleeding is an outlet, as are many parasites such as fleas and ticks to intestinal worms. It is my understanding that iron poisoning never occured years ago until we managed to eliminate all the parasites that would suck on us. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: > If iron is toxic and has no outlet in males, I guess I'm the original > iron man. My well water has at least 200PPM iron in it..so much that iron > bacteria just loves the stuff and everything gets rusty looking. It tastes > like a bucket of wet nails. > I feel just fine after 30+ years of drinking it. > My 80 yr old neighbors water is actually red/ brown from iron...almost > like paint. > > I breath steel dust and rust dust from grinders and wire wheels quite > often too. I wouldn't be surprised if I consumed a half inch nuts worth of > non food iron every month...maybe the bolt too. > > If anything, elemental iron would scavange oxidizing free radicals. > > Isn't bleeding an outlet for iron? I do that sometimes too. [ouch] > Two days ago I ripped a big chunk of skin off my hand. [ 1" x 1/2"] I > sprayed the hole and the skin flap with CS and stuck the skin back in > place, covered it with a CS whetted papar towel scrap and kept it wet till > it stopped bleeding. [That took a while] > It is now almost healed up..no puss or puffiness despite using > unsterilized tweezers and paper towel. ALL the reattached skin is still > there and blending into the wound. The only scabbing is where the skin > didn't stretch quite enough fill the hole. > I'd say 80% healed in two days where normally a wound like that would take > more than three weeks to go away with a total loss of the skin covering. [I > would know. I've lost skin like that hundreds of times over many many years] > The last time I did that [almost one square inch of skin ripped loose], it > only took 4 days for the entire wound to turn into a thin pink line on my > hand. > I couldn't even find it in 5 days. > > Did you know that Carolina red clay is red because of iron content? > Killer dust on the country road? I guess there's an awful lot of doomed > rednecks around here. Good thing they [we] don't know. > Ken > > At 07:14 PM 8/24/02 -0700, you wrote: > > Bill Sardi's reply (in caps) to Marshall's observations: > > > >> FROM: Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. > >> > >> > What does "works on the skin and digestive tract" mean? > >> METALS KILLS BUGS, LIKE RUST IN WATER. GENERATES FREE RADICALS THAT KILL > >> > >> GERMS. > >> > >> > > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. > >> > >> HEAVY METALS LIKE LEAD, MERCURY, CADMIUM, WHICH SLOWLY BUILD UP IN THE BODY > >> > >> AND CONTRIBUTE TO DISEASE. > >> > >> > Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally > >> > non-toxic. > >> > >> WHO SAYS? SO IS IRON A TRANSITION METAL AND IT GENERATES MOST DISEASE WHEN > >> > >> IT IS UNBOUND. ANY OF THESE METALS CAN GENERATE TOXICITY. > >> > >> WHY DO ALL THE ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FOLKS UNDERGO CHELATION THERAPY? > >> > >> TO GET RID OF THESE MINERALS. > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Long term increases disease. > >> > > >> > By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS > >> > for > >> > years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or > >> > flu at least > >> > monthly to never for the last 4 years. > >> > >> 4 YEARS IS NOT LONG TERM. GIVE YOURSELF MORE TIME. > >> > >> ALSO IRON IS BUILDING UP IN YOUR TISSUES, AS OCCURS IN ALL MALES WHO HAVE > >> > >> NO OUTLET FOR IT. > >> > >Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about > >that before. > >Thanks, Marshall. > >jr > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Codex arrives
If iron is toxic and has no outlet in males, I guess I'm the original iron man. My well water has at least 200PPM iron in it..so much that iron bacteria just loves the stuff and everything gets rusty looking. It tastes like a bucket of wet nails. I feel just fine after 30+ years of drinking it. My 80 yr old neighbors water is actually red/ brown from iron...almost like paint. I breath steel dust and rust dust from grinders and wire wheels quite often too. I wouldn't be surprised if I consumed a half inch nuts worth of non food iron every month...maybe the bolt too. If anything, elemental iron would scavange oxidizing free radicals. Isn't bleeding an outlet for iron? I do that sometimes too. [ouch] Two days ago I ripped a big chunk of skin off my hand. [ 1" x 1/2"] I sprayed the hole and the skin flap with CS and stuck the skin back in place, covered it with a CS whetted papar towel scrap and kept it wet till it stopped bleeding. [That took a while] It is now almost healed up..no puss or puffiness despite using unsterilized tweezers and paper towel. ALL the reattached skin is still there and blending into the wound. The only scabbing is where the skin didn't stretch quite enough fill the hole. I'd say 80% healed in two days where normally a wound like that would take more than three weeks to go away with a total loss of the skin covering. [I would know. I've lost skin like that hundreds of times over many many years] The last time I did that [almost one square inch of skin ripped loose], it only took 4 days for the entire wound to turn into a thin pink line on my hand. I couldn't even find it in 5 days. Did you know that Carolina red clay is red because of iron content? Killer dust on the country road? I guess there's an awful lot of doomed rednecks around here. Good thing they [we] don't know. Ken At 07:14 PM 8/24/02 -0700, you wrote: > Bill Sardi's reply (in caps) to Marshall's observations: > >> FROM: Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. >> >> > What does "works on the skin and digestive tract" mean? >> METALS KILLS BUGS, LIKE RUST IN WATER. GENERATES FREE RADICALS THAT KILL >> >> GERMS. >> >> > > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. >> >> HEAVY METALS LIKE LEAD, MERCURY, CADMIUM, WHICH SLOWLY BUILD UP IN THE BODY >> >> AND CONTRIBUTE TO DISEASE. >> >> > Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally >> > non-toxic. >> >> WHO SAYS? SO IS IRON A TRANSITION METAL AND IT GENERATES MOST DISEASE WHEN >> >> IT IS UNBOUND. ANY OF THESE METALS CAN GENERATE TOXICITY. >> >> WHY DO ALL THE ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FOLKS UNDERGO CHELATION THERAPY? >> >> TO GET RID OF THESE MINERALS. >> > >> > >> > > > Long term increases disease. >> > >> > By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS >> > for >> > years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or >> > flu at least >> > monthly to never for the last 4 years. >> >> 4 YEARS IS NOT LONG TERM. GIVE YOURSELF MORE TIME. >> >> ALSO IRON IS BUILDING UP IN YOUR TISSUES, AS OCCURS IN ALL MALES WHO HAVE >> >> NO OUTLET FOR IT. >> >Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about >that before. >Thanks, Marshall. >jr > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Codex arrives
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > If it becomes a concern (iron buildup), giving blood periodically is a way > out. > > Chuck > Yes, doctors and barbers use to do that. It might have helped those who had iron posioning, but for most it was not an assist. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives
jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: > Bill Sardi's reply (in caps) to Marshall's observations: > > > FROM: Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. > > > > > What does "works on the skin and digestive tract" mean? > > METALS KILLS BUGS, LIKE RUST IN WATER. I don't follow this at all. As far as I know rust does not kill any bacteria, and in fact there are certain bacteria that feed on iron and actually make rust. > GENERATES FREE RADICALS THAT KILL > > > > GERMS. > That would be quite a feat. A free radical has more energy than a compound at ground state. This can be done by any element or compound that takes place in a reaction, but silver does not react at all, it is simply a catalyst. So if indeed silver can create free radicals without any external energy input, we have discovered a new energy source and our energy problems should be solved! What documentation is there for this amazing feat? > > > > > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. > > > > HEAVY METALS LIKE LEAD, MERCURY, CADMIUM, WHICH SLOWLY BUILD UP IN THE BODY > > > > AND CONTRIBUTE TO DISEASE. > > > > > Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally > > > non-toxic. > > > > WHO SAYS? SO IS IRON A TRANSITION METAL AND IT GENERATES MOST DISEASE WHEN > > > > IT IS UNBOUND. ANY OF THESE METALS CAN GENERATE TOXICITY. Iron is absolutely necessary for life for any form that uses hemoglobin. Too much of it is toxic. Small amounts are absolutely essential. We are talking about amounts of silver probably 1/10,000 of that which is considered safe for iron. What evidence is there for toxicity for silver metal? I have been looking for ANY study that has shown that for silver for years, and have never come up with a single one. If you know of one, I would sure like to see it. > > > 4 YEARS IS NOT LONG TERM. GIVE YOURSELF MORE TIME. > > What evidence do you have for this claim? Those who have been taking it as long as it has been available to the general public have never reported any problems that I am aware of. If no one has been taking it long enough to cause these problems, then how do you know they are problems? > > > ALSO IRON IS BUILDING UP IN YOUR TISSUES, AS OCCURS IN ALL MALES WHO HAVE > > > > NO OUTLET FOR IT. > I agree with that. The body binds iron. The body doe not bind silver. We are comparing apples and oranges here. Silver is a noble metal, iron is a ferris metal. > > Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about > that before. Yes it is true. Too much iron can be a real problem for men. It normally is not for women, except after menopause, or if they have had a hysterectomy. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives
If it becomes a concern (iron buildup), giving blood periodically is a way out. Chuck Don't Panic! It's all right. Everything is going to be just fine. OK, panic a little... On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:14:32 -0700, jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: >Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about >that before. >Thanks, Marshall. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives
Bill Sardi's reply (in caps) to Marshall's observations: > FROM: Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. > > > What does "works on the skin and digestive tract" mean? > METALS KILLS BUGS, LIKE RUST IN WATER. GENERATES FREE RADICALS THAT KILL > > GERMS. > > > > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. > > HEAVY METALS LIKE LEAD, MERCURY, CADMIUM, WHICH SLOWLY BUILD UP IN THE BODY > > AND CONTRIBUTE TO DISEASE. > > > Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally > > non-toxic. > > WHO SAYS? SO IS IRON A TRANSITION METAL AND IT GENERATES MOST DISEASE WHEN > > IT IS UNBOUND. ANY OF THESE METALS CAN GENERATE TOXICITY. > > WHY DO ALL THE ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FOLKS UNDERGO CHELATION THERAPY? > > TO GET RID OF THESE MINERALS. > > > > > > > > Long term increases disease. > > > > By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS > > for > > years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or > > flu at least > > monthly to never for the last 4 years. > > 4 YEARS IS NOT LONG TERM. GIVE YOURSELF MORE TIME. > > ALSO IRON IS BUILDING UP IN YOUR TISSUES, AS OCCURS IN ALL MALES WHO HAVE > > NO OUTLET FOR IT. > Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about that before. Thanks, Marshall. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives
Marshall writes: > jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: > > > > Silver kills germs... > Those quotes were from health journalist Bill Sardi (http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp), and have relayed your observations. I'd asked him about CS out-of-the-blue. Good points; awaiting his response. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives does long term use use of cs cause disease?
Marshall Dudley wrote: jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: > > Silver kills germs, and it works on the skin and digestive tract. > What does works on the skin and digestive tract mean? > > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. > Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally non-toxic. > > > Long term increases disease. By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS for years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or flu at least monthly to never for the last 4 years. Marshall Are you saying long term use of cs causes disease? how long? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour thank you - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
Re: CS>Codex arrives
jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: > > Silver kills germs, and it works on the skin and digestive tract. > What does works on the skin and digestive tract mean? > > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. > Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally non-toxic. > > > Long term increases disease. By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS for years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or flu at least monthly to never for the last 4 years. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives
> Bill references: > > > ...website is http://www.askbillsardi.com > > > for the quoted article, yet I do not see that article there. > Bill replies: > Beats me. > Then perhaps it came from his newsletter, rather than the (interesting) site itself. He has a few things to say about chelation, too. As Dr. Sardi has a convenient "Ask the Doctor" form onsite, I asked him about the statement from his book "World's Best Water" (quoted onsite), that describes several types of water: > ...Distilled water is tasteless and dilutes mineral concentrations... > He did not address that, but responded to my second question re his opinion of CS: > Silver kills germs, and it works on the skin and digestive tract. > > But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. > > Long term increases disease. > > B Sardi > Hmmh---how do you respond to that one? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Codex arrives
Beats me. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: CS>Codex arrives > Bill references: > > > ...website is www.askbillsardi.com > > > for the quoted article, yet I do not see that article there. > jr > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Codex arrives
Bill references: > ...website is www.askbillsardi.com > for the quoted article, yet I do not see that article there. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
