Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-30 Thread Hank
Hi Marshalee, I seen where you said you were thinking about moving to Nevada, 
Be sure and check to see if you can still get SSI there. I had a friend move 
from Ca. back here to rent a room from me and he lost his SSI, I think he went 
back to Ca now.
Yours Hank
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  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:07 AM
  Subject: CS>Marshalee's situation


 I agree with the lady who said you need to get some help and good counsel. 
 We can't afford to lose you or not have you hitting on all 8, Marshalee!!   
Regardless of your sister's circumstances, you must remember that nothing, 
that's NOTHING, gives anyone abuse rights.  And your sister is taking advantage 
of your reluctance to leave her to abuse you.  Also, you can get a different 
roommate if your financial situation demands it.  But it just may be possible 
to get a small place of your own.  And yes, I do mean small.  Some small studio 
apts. do exist.  The owners will be glad to have someone of good character who 
is realistic in what she expects of the place.  You do have options.  They may 
not be all that desirable, but they will all be better than what you presently 
are enduring.   You can make a change for the better.  Frankly, your sister 
sounds like a very undisciplined person!!C'mon, Marshalee.  Do what needs 
to be done and be done with it.   Very best wishes,  pj


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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-30 Thread mamapug

  I`m going to Utah.
   Never would move to Nevada!
  Marshalee


  Hi Marshalee, I seen where you said you were thinking about moving to Nevada, 
Be sure and check to see if you can still get SSI there. I had a friend move 
from Ca. back here to rent a room from me and he lost his SSI, I think he went 
back to Ca now.
  Yours Hank
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From: Shirley Reed 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:07 AM
Subject: CS>Marshalee's situation


   I agree with the lady who said you need to get some help and good 
counsel.  We can't afford to lose you or not have you hitting on all 8, 
Marshalee!!   Regardless of your sister's circumstances, you must remember that 
nothing, that's NOTHING, gives anyone abuse rights.  And your sister is taking 
advantage of your reluctance to leave her to abuse you.  Also, you can get a 
different roommate if your financial situation demands it.  But it just may be 
possible to get a small place of your own.  And yes, I do mean small.  Some 
small studio apts. do exist.  The owners will be glad to have someone of good 
character who is realistic in what she expects of the place.  You do have 
options.  They may not be all that desirable, but they will all be better than 
what you presently are enduring.   You can make a change for the better.  
Frankly, your sister sounds like a very undisciplined person!!C'mon, 
Marshalee.  Do what needs to be done and be done with it.   Very best wishes,  
pj


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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-30 Thread Hank
Sorry about getting the states wrong. Didn't you live in Utah before you moved 
in with your sister? If so I guess you know if your SSI is safe there.
Yours Hank
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  From: mamapug 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Marshalee's situation



I`m going to Utah.
 Never would move to Nevada!
Marshalee


Hi Marshalee, I seen where you said you were thinking about moving to 
Nevada, Be sure and check to see if you can still get SSI there. I had a friend 
move from Ca. back here to rent a room from me and he lost his SSI, I think he 
went back to Ca now.
Yours Hank

Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread mamapug

  Dear PJ, 
  I live in Napa, the town where everyone seems to go about with their noses in 
the air, after all, we grow WINE grapes! As if that really matters... :oP
  Here, a studio apartment rents for upwards of $1000 a month. I only get $627 
a month from SSI. Won`t work out.
  By the way, this home I`m in, which my folks bought for 27 thou back in 1971, 
is now worth upwards of Half a Million!! Silly, isn`t it??!!
   I prefer to be back in Utah, with my children, grandchildren, and friends, 
all of whom like me and want me back!! I`m still looking in the Provo paper 
online, something will come up.
   My sister is actually nicer since she realizes I WILL move rather than put 
up with her abuse. I was able to speak calmly with her a while ago, and told 
her how terribly her yelling hurts me, and that I have NEVER had abuse like 
that from anyone, not even my Ex husband!!
  I`m trying hard to keep on keeping on...
  Fortunately I have some good friends here, too, who have helped me. After the 
first attack, I spent 3 weeks with Cathie, during which time I went to the 
hospital with pneumonia for 2 days. I hadn`t had any CS during the attack 
period, and the normal flora in my lungs went wild...I was really sick.
  My chiropractor, who is also a kinesiologist , told me later that pneumonia 
is caused by either grief or anguish, and boy, had I had great anguish!!!
  Thanks everyone, for the kind words and support!
  Love,
  Marshalee



 I agree with the lady who said you need to get some help and good counsel. 
 We can't afford to lose you or not have you hitting on all 8, Marshalee!!   
Regardless of your sister's circumstances, you must remember that nothing, 
that's NOTHING, gives anyone abuse rights.  And your sister is taking advantage 
of your reluctance to leave her to abuse you.  Also, you can get a different 
roommate if your financial situation demands it.  But it just may be possible 
to get a small place of your own.  And yes, I do mean small.  Some small studio 
apts. do exist.  The owners will be glad to have someone of good character who 
is realistic in what she expects of the place.  You do have options.  They may 
not be all that desirable, but they will all be better than what you presently 
are enduring.   You can make a change for the better.  Frankly, your sister 
sounds like a very undisciplined person!!C'mon, Marshalee.  Do what needs 
to be done and be done with it.   Very best wishes,  pj


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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread mamapug

  Dear Hank, 
  My SSI in Utah would still be there, only it would be 60 bucks a month less.
  sigh...
  Marshalee



  Sorry about getting the states wrong. Didn't you live in Utah before you 
moved in with your sister? If so I guess you know if your SSI is safe there.
  Yours Hank



Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread Garnet
Any chance of sneaking some colloidal gold into her? It sure can help
stabilize mood swings and anxiety.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 11:38, mamapug wrote:
>  
> Dear PJ, 
> I live in Napa, the town where everyone seems to go about with
> their noses in the air, after all, we grow WINE grapes! As if
> that really matters... :oP
> Here, a studio apartment rents for upwards of $1000 a month. I
> only get $627 a month from SSI. Won`t work out.
> By the way, this home I`m in, which my folks bought for 27
> thou back in 1971, is now worth upwards of Half a
> Million!! Silly, isn`t it??!!
>  I prefer to be back in Utah, with my children, grandchildren,
> and friends, all of whom like me and want me back!! I`m still
> looking in the Provo paper online, something will come up.
>  My sister is actually nicer since she realizes I WILL move
> rather than put up with her abuse. I was able to speak calmly
> with her a while ago, and told her how terribly her yelling
> hurts me, and that I have NEVER had abuse like that from
> anyone, not even my Ex husband!!
> I`m trying hard to keep on keeping on...
> Fortunately I have some good friends here, too, who have
> helped me. After the first attack, I spent 3 weeks with
> Cathie, during which time I went to the hospital with
> pneumonia for 2 days. I hadn`t had any CS during the attack
> period, and the normal flora in my lungs went wild...I was
> really sick.
> My chiropractor, who is also a kinesiologist , told me later
> that pneumonia is caused by either grief or anguish, and boy,
> had I had great anguish!!!
> Thanks everyone, for the kind words and support!
> Love,
> Marshalee
>  
> 
>I agree with the lady who said you need to get some help
> and good counsel.  We can't afford to lose you or not have you
> hitting on all 8, Marshalee!!   Regardless of your sister's
> circumstances, you must remember that nothing, that's NOTHING,
> gives anyone abuse rights.  And your sister is taking
> advantage of your reluctance to leave her to abuse you.  Also,
> you can get a different roommate if your financial situation
> demands it.  But it just may be possible to get a small place
> of your own.  And yes, I do mean small.  Some small studio
> apts. do exist.  The owners will be glad to have someone of
> good character who is realistic in what she expects of the
> place.  You do have options.  They may not be all that
> desirable, but they will all be better than what you presently
> are enduring.   You can make a change for the better. 
> Frankly, your sister sounds like a very undisciplined
> person!!C'mon, Marshalee.  Do what needs to be done and be
> done with it.   Very best wishes,  pj
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread Nina Whit
Colloidal gold may help mood, but it has been reported to also supress
the immune system.


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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread mamapug




> Any chance of sneaking some colloidal gold into her? It sure can help
> stabilize mood swings and anxiety.
>
> Garnet

I doubt it. She is not wanting to try anything, and I can`t sneak anything
into what she eats or drinks as she fixes everything herself.
I really don`t care any more if she dies. Sad, huh?
Marshalee


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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread Hank
Well that is better than losing it all. Do you make your own CS? It is so easy 
to make, if your not making it you should start.
Yours Hank
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Marshalee's situation



Dear Hank, 
My SSI in Utah would still be there, only it would be 60 bucks a month less.
sigh...
Marshalee

Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread Nenah Sylver

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From: "mamapug" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Marshalee's situation


> > Any chance of sneaking some colloidal gold into her? It sure can help
> > stabilize mood swings and anxiety.
> >
> > Garnet


> I doubt it. She is not wanting to try anything, and I can`t sneak anything
> into what she eats or drinks as she fixes everything herself.
> I really don`t care any more if she dies. Sad, huh?
> Marshalee


Marshalee,
One of the most difficult lessons I have had to learn as a counselor (and a
human being) is to allow others to make choices that I don't agree with, even if
those choices (as I view them) kill the person prematurely. It doesn't feel good
to me to get caught up with martyrdom, "poor me," blaming the other person,
villifying or denigrating the other person, etc. It doesn't help me evolve and
it doesn't help the other person either.

When someome is being self-destructive, all I can do is point out what I see,
explain what I think their options are, and then be totally okay with whatever
the person decides.

Otherwise, I'm attached to the person doing what I think they should be doing.
Attachment like that wears a person down and saps their strength. It doesn't
respect the other person's sovereignty. And it doesn't let you be free, either,
because you're always dependent on an outside source to feel good.

Hard lessons, but if you manage to learn them, boy does it make you free.

Nenah



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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread mamapug

  Hank, I`m one of the oldies around here. 
  Been making CS since 1996, it is what cured my near terminal Lyme Disease!!
  Marshalee



  Well that is better than losing it all. Do you make your own CS? It is so 
easy to make, if your not making it you should start.
  Yours Hank



Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-07-31 Thread Hank
I'm sorry dear that this old memory isn't to good anymore, I do now remember 
that you make CS.
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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  Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:47 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Marshalee's situation



Hank, I`m one of the oldies around here. 
Been making CS since 1996, it is what cured my near terminal Lyme Disease!!
Marshalee



Well that is better than losing it all. Do you make your own CS? It is so 
easy to make, if your not making it you should start.
Yours Hank

Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-08-01 Thread Garnet
No not really. It is her choice. I just meant to make it more bearable
for you. It is not us and them it is we, and the mass of  humanity will
make it together, de facto, as we are all one and when we realize that,
let's just say things will shift.

Until then if you have to live with her you may as well make it as
pleasant as possible. Just my thoughts on intolerable people /
situations -- but they all mirror something in ourselves that we are in
need of seeing / experiencing. Opening to that idea often shifts a
situation toward *some* type of resolution, and often not the one we
envision.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 13:17, mamapug wrote:
> 
> 
> > Any chance of sneaking some colloidal gold into her? It sure can help
> > stabilize mood swings and anxiety.
> >
> > Garnet
> 
> I doubt it. She is not wanting to try anything, and I can`t sneak anything
> into what she eats or drinks as she fixes everything herself.
> I really don`t care any more if she dies. Sad, huh?
> Marshalee
> 
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Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-08-01 Thread Garnet
The only information I can find on immune suppression by gold is due to
gold salts. Sounds like the same disinformation as CS being toxic for
you. It is of course the Silver salts that are toxic. 

Ionic or particulate (monoatomic) gold and silver are vastly different
from the salts. But you wouldn't know it from the Quack Watchers spin
doctoring.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 13:03, Nina Whit wrote:
> Colloidal gold may help mood, but it has been reported to also supress
> the immune system.
> 
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CS>Re: Re: CS>Marshalee's situation

2004-08-02 Thread jandwtighe
Marshalee,

I'm sorry to hear that living with your sister isn't bearable.  You might want 
to check out the book Toxic Inlaws by Susan Forward.  It's excellent in 
teaching one how to deal with toxic people, and judging from your recent 
posting she sounds like she might fit the bill.

Jess



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