Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections
Christine: A batch of silver that reacts that way to H2O2 might be fairly low quality CS... I have never used, ( as Ken mentioned ) h2o2 during the process, only afterward. Remember that a severe reaction between CS and H2O2 is the H2O2 reacting with the particles. Since home brew units are usually not capable of producing a high PPM QUALITY particulate silver, I would hypothesize that there was either tiny flakes of silver in the CS, or agglomeration. I work hard to achieve a higher particulate CS when using CS and H2O2 for more topical applications, such as mouth infections, sore throats, ears, etc... Trying to achieve this without producing complete sludge is not easy. I want the particles, even larger ones are ok ( since the H2O2 will reduce them ), but I don't want a completely blown batch. I use Ken's SilverPuppy for this, as he runs the current extremely low ( which REALLY helps to keep the reaction under control as the batch is overrun ). I employ both mechanical and thermal stirring. I first plate out silver on the bottom of the glass container ( by running a batch for hours on end with his generator, thus "blowing" the batch ). Then, I start with room temperature distilled water. I run the next batch with mechanical stirring, and a gentle heat source. At about the time I would usually stop the reaction with this particular generator, I instead start pumping up the heat. In this case, I'll often remove the electrodes for cleaning ( which is always a big no-no from my point of view when trying to achieve a most excellent product ), and as the reaction continues, I keep pumping up the heat, until just under boiling. I stop the reaction. What I get is a product that I likely wouldn't use internally per se. It is often has a golden hue ( really pushing that poor lil generator ) and an extremely rich tyndall effect. When I add my 35% H2O2, the CS will boil briefly, but it will turn clear, not brown... If it were to turn brown or grey, I would hypothesize that I have silver flakes in the CS, or extremely large particles. After it is done "boiling", I seal the container ( always glass ). I've played with various concentrations of H2O2... Of course, caution needs to be applied, because if the H2O2 remains high, it can easily damage injured tissue via oxidation. If I add a touch of H2O2 to a high quality colloidal silver I've made, the reaction is not visible at all. No boiling, no color change. The only way to confirm the reaction is through the change in the tyndall effect. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections > > I once used a few drops of H2O2 as a starter and made silver snow flakes > like you'd see in one of those snow scene paper weights. > Ken > > At 10:28 AM 8/30/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > >I have a question or two about making the 3% H202/CS mixture. About 15 > >minutes after making a batch of CS using my LVDC method (3 batteries, heat > >stirred, 16 oz. distilled water, 12 g. . silver wires (my own brewing > >setup) - brewed for approx. 1 hour after the bubbles started coming off of > >the anode - was a very light yellow and had good Tyndall), I put a few > >drops of the 3% H202 into the CS and shook it and it immediately turned the > >most aweful shade of dark brown/grey I've ever seen. It also had many tiny > >bubbles like the H202 was reacting. I let it sit for a while hoping it > >would change into something a little more 'friendly' looking, but it > >didn't. So I added a little more H202 and it turned very light, almost > >clear, with alot more of the tiny bubbles in it. Finally after a few more > >minutes, it became totally clear with no bubbles at all. > > > >Was this a stage it went thru? What is actually going on when you add the > >H202? I read that it is dissolving the 'particles' of silver and turning > >the entire mixture into an ionic solution. If this is so, can you use too > >little or too much H202? It seemed like I used too little at first and by > >adding more it finished it's business. I just don't know. Anyone have the > >answer? Also, if you dissolve all the 'particles', does it still carry a > >positive charge? > > > >Thanks, > >Christine > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >
Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections
I once used a few drops of H2O2 as a starter and made silver snow flakes like you'd see in one of those snow scene paper weights. Ken At 10:28 AM 8/30/02 -0400, you wrote: > >I have a question or two about making the 3% H202/CS mixture. About 15 >minutes after making a batch of CS using my LVDC method (3 batteries, heat >stirred, 16 oz. distilled water, 12 g. . silver wires (my own brewing >setup) - brewed for approx. 1 hour after the bubbles started coming off of >the anode - was a very light yellow and had good Tyndall), I put a few >drops of the 3% H202 into the CS and shook it and it immediately turned the >most aweful shade of dark brown/grey I've ever seen. It also had many tiny >bubbles like the H202 was reacting. I let it sit for a while hoping it >would change into something a little more 'friendly' looking, but it >didn't. So I added a little more H202 and it turned very light, almost >clear, with alot more of the tiny bubbles in it. Finally after a few more >minutes, it became totally clear with no bubbles at all. > >Was this a stage it went thru? What is actually going on when you add the >H202? I read that it is dissolving the 'particles' of silver and turning >the entire mixture into an ionic solution. If this is so, can you use too >little or too much H202? It seemed like I used too little at first and by >adding more it finished it's business. I just don't know. Anyone have the >answer? Also, if you dissolve all the 'particles', does it still carry a >positive charge? > >Thanks, >Christine > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections
My understanding is we all have mycoplasma on our bodies, when there is a stress of some sort in your life, the mycoplasyma invade your own cells. Since they have no cell wall, they take over your cells completely, live off the contents of your cell, and hide. Your body knows there is a pathogen there, but it cannot find it since it is hiding in your cells. According to your doctor, your body is attacking for no reason...The reason is the hidden mycoplasyma. The CS finds it. All of these people drink 8oz CS twice a day. We add one drop of 3% H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS. Wait about 15 minutes, then we add Gatorade and drink it slowly all day. It will probably take a couple of weeks before you notice anything, but it is working. - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections > Morning Nancy, > > At 09:56 PM 8/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >Ms Lupus, and fibomyalgia are all caused by micoplaysma. My CS has cured > >all three of these so far. > >A very interesting message. I recently, ( finally ) had a mycoplasma > test and the report was > negative for only two types. > >I understand that 50 types have been identified. I have no symptoms > that suggest I have > mycoplasma but was curious due to the information that suggest everyone is > infected. > > Actually, the head technician at one of the largest blood labs in the area > stated, "everyone had it". > > My daughter and a close friend both have fibromyalgia. > > Could you give us more details on how you used CS and did you use any other > materials with is such as DMSO or H2O2 ? > > Wayne > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections
" I understand that 50 types have been identified" Most are not pathogenic. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections Morning Nancy, At 09:56 PM 8/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Ms Lupus, and fibomyalgia are all caused by micoplaysma. My CS has cured >all three of these so far. A very interesting message. I recently, ( finally ) had a mycoplasma test and the report was negative for only two types. I understand that 50 types have been identified. I have no symptoms that suggest I have mycoplasma but was curious due to the information that suggest everyone is infected. Actually, the head technician at one of the largest blood labs in the area stated, "everyone had it". My daughter and a close friend both have fibromyalgia. Could you give us more details on how you used CS and did you use any other materials with is such as DMSO or H2O2 ? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TJ Garland and Mycoplasma infections
Try adding H2o2 to the CS you are drinking. Since I have been doing this, it seems the CS works much faster. I drink 8 oz CS twice a day. Actually, I drink 8 oz in small smounts all morning. Then about 3PM I slowly drink the second 8 oz. It is bitter when you add the H2o2 so I add gatorade. I'm sure most any juice would work. I add 1 drop of 3% H2o2 to every 2 oz. of CS. I then wait about 15 minutes before I add the Gatorade. Pretty simple, and it works - Original Message - From: "TJ Garland" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: RE: CS>TJ Garland and Mycoplasma infections I have not been tested again. Yes, I was tested by his group. I went on everything I could after I read about the horrible deaths of GWS people. I drink about 4-6 oz CS a day. I eat garlic, take olive leaf extract, 10 grams Vit C, lots sunshine, lots Ca/ Mg, no sugar, no aspartame, lots Superfood, drink only distilled with fresh lemon to alkalyse the body, stay very close to the Hallehiegh(sp) diet www.hacres.com I do a quarterly liver , gallbladder, colon and kidney cleanse. I do a hair analysis every 6 months. I will probably fight it the rest of my life. Now, I am actively battling tinnitus. My next step is to remove an old root canal. _ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections
Ms Lupus, and fibomyalgia are all caused by micoplaysma. My CS has cured all three of these so far. Actually 8 people so far have been drinking my CS for MS. So far they all are much improved. Five of the 8 have had MRI's lately. All 5 MRI show NO NEW LESIONS. ALL LESIONS ARE OLD. That sounds like a cure in my book. Also, the damage caused by the MS is being repaired with the help of CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: "J & S Campbell" To: "Silver-list" Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections > Hi, > > I read an email in the archive, I think from TJ Garland, about being > infected with the mycoplasma incognito fermentans. Could you please tell me > if you found CS to cure you of this and what dosage regime did you follow > and for how long? And where were you tested for it, by Garth Nicolson? > > Thanks, > > With best wishes, > > Genevieve > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>TJ Garland and Mycoplasma infections
I have not been tested again. Yes, I was tested by his group. I went on everything I could after I read about the horrible deaths of GWS people. I drink about 4-6 oz CS a day. I eat garlic, take olive leaf extract, 10 grams Vit C, lots sunshine, lots Ca/ Mg, no sugar, no aspartame, lots Superfood, drink only distilled with fresh lemon to alkalyse the body, stay very close to the Hallehiegh(sp) diet www.hacres.com I do a quarterly liver , gallbladder, colon and kidney cleanse. I do a hair analysis every 6 months. I will probably fight it the rest of my life. Now, I am actively battling tinnitus. My next step is to remove an old root canal. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>TJ Garland and Mycoplasma infections
Several years ago I read a statement that CS kills mycoplasmas. There was no hard data or study attached. I do not know where that information may be in my various antique hard drives. You might try contacting the group testing CS at Brigham Young University; they were doing bacteria and virons, but I don't know if they are testing it against mycoplasmas. With money, you could get a lab to try a test. That should be done in broth, and not on plated media. Bottom line: what does one have to loose by trying it? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: J & S Campbell [mailto:campbe...@ecossetel.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:32 AM To: Silver-list Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections Hi, I read an email in the archive, I think from TJ Garland, about being infected with the mycoplasma incognito fermentans. Could you please tell me if you found CS to cure you of this and what dosage regime did you follow and for how long? And where were you tested for it, by Garth Nicolson? Thanks, With best wishes, Genevieve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
