Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
Dear List, Here is what Donna herself has to say: Dear List, No I am not from so secret service group, nor am I embarrassed. It is called being busy getting things ready for the holidays. First of all why would I be embarrassed? I was severely dehydrated among other things and it took me some time to start to feel a little better. That part of my life is my personal business. Sorry if I have given some the wrong impression. Hopefully after things quiet down here I will get back to the list but that is not my top priority as of this moment. My family is. I hope all of you have a wonderful Christmas.and once again my apologies for signing off so abruptly. Donna She is fine. Also, I`m glad to report she is stopping the smoking!! :o) Love, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
I had missed that about 2 doctors seeing it. Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > At 09:36 AM 12/23/99 -0800, you wrote: > >If I recall correctly, only SHE could see any discoloration. Her > >husband and son could not perceive it. So the problem was miniscule if > >it existed at all. It makes me think there was no problem except > >anxiety. > > > Except that apparently two doctors saw it... > > ~^^V^^~ > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
Query: Would the two doctors have seen it if it had not been suggested by the patient? Analysis: Due to the conflict of interest (CS is a competing therapeutic) it's no wonder there was no biopsy. They did not want to be proven wrong. The 3rd doctor had no reason to biopsy something that lacked prima facie evidence of its existence. I personally think running to doctors for their opinion is a waste of time and money, and a major threat to one's health. Consider that adverse reactions to prescription drugs is the #3 cause of death, iatrogenic disease is the #2 reason for a hospital visit, and medical mistakes is the #5 cause of death..., well let's just say I follow the advice of the words of Robert Mendelsohn (sp?) M.D. : "The best thing a doctor can do for his patient is to go out of business." jd -Original Message- From: Vilik Rapheles To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:56 PM Subject: Re: CS>donna OK gone bye bye > > >At 09:36 AM 12/23/99 -0800, you wrote: >>If I recall correctly, only SHE could see any discoloration. Her >>husband and son could not perceive it. So the problem was miniscule if >>it existed at all. It makes me think there was no problem except >>anxiety. >> >Except that apparently two doctors saw it... > >~^^V^^~ >> > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
> Thankfully, she seems to be okay. Doctors one and two said she had > argyria. A third said ... no. Go figure. None of these diagnoses was > confirmed by biopsy or other test. She has regained her normal color, > but now has to deal with the question of what *did* happen, and, I > imagine, lurking suspicions of what it *still* could have been. >From what I had read, she really hadn't done enough colloidal silver to contract argyria. It's nice to see my suspicion confirmed by her return to normal color. I am also thankful that two more of the medical profession have proven that they are idiots :) I am still curious as well as to what caused her temporary condition, and I eagerly await for further details. Yours in health, James Allison Allisons Apothecary http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
In a message dated 12/23/99 12:47:15 PM Central Standard Time, vi...@peak.org writes: << At 09:36 AM 12/23/99 -0800, you wrote: >If I recall correctly, only SHE could see any discoloration. Her >husband and son could not perceive it. So the problem was miniscule if >it existed at all. It makes me think there was no problem except >anxiety. > Except that apparently two doctors saw it... ~^^V^^~ >> ~`` I've unsubscribed awhile back to all lists that received much so we could go on vacation and not feel overwhelmed by the volume of mail to sort through upon return it. I must have missed the mails where she saw 2 doctors. What did they tell her? Thanks, Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
At 09:36 AM 12/23/99 -0800, you wrote: >If I recall correctly, only SHE could see any discoloration. Her >husband and son could not perceive it. So the problem was miniscule if >it existed at all. It makes me think there was no problem except >anxiety. > Except that apparently two doctors saw it... ~^^V^^~ > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
Methaemoglobinaemia can be due to chronic taking of drugs like phenacetin and to lack of an enzyme called methaemoglobin reductase. Apart from a bluish discolouration of the skin [cyanosis] in those patients with about 20 % methaemo- globin, these patients are well. People over 50 always have some methaemoglobin in their blood. The cyanotic tinge may be modified by a concomitant dermatosis. This complicates the differential diagnosis of the colouration of argyria. With regards Lew Henry Reed wrote: > If I recall correctly, only SHE could see any discoloration. Her > husband and son could not perceive it. So the problem was miniscule if > it existed at all. It makes me think there was no problem except > anxiety. > > Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote: > > > > Can we surmise that her case was DEFINITELY not Agyria? Afterall, the > > requirement of permanent colorization was not met. Right? > > > > jd > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 3:52 AM > > Subject: Re: CS>donna OK gone bye bye > > > > >Tut,tut, > > >Could be the AOL 30 day free offer ran out. > > >Became dissatisfied with AOL restrictions or complexity. > > >Got what she needed and moved on. > > >Be kind, it's the season! > > > Chuck > > > > > >"Reality is a crutch for those who can't handle the paranormal." > > > > > >On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:33:21 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >>She has apparently deleted her AOL account; which means several things > > >> > > >>1) she is not okay & very angry > > >>2) she was an impostor (from the FDA or something) > > >> just looking for trouble > > >>3) she is okay but too embarrassed to show back up > > >>4) here under another name lurking . . . . > > >> > > >> > > >>just some thoughts, > > >> > > >>jeannine > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > __ > > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
If I recall correctly, only SHE could see any discoloration. Her husband and son could not perceive it. So the problem was miniscule if it existed at all. It makes me think there was no problem except anxiety. Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote: > > Can we surmise that her case was DEFINITELY not Agyria? Afterall, the > requirement of permanent colorization was not met. Right? > > jd > > -Original Message- > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 3:52 AM > Subject: Re: CS>donna OK gone bye bye > > >Tut,tut, > >Could be the AOL 30 day free offer ran out. > >Became dissatisfied with AOL restrictions or complexity. > >Got what she needed and moved on. > >Be kind, it's the season! > > Chuck > > > >"Reality is a crutch for those who can't handle the paranormal." > > > >On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:33:21 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote: > > > >>She has apparently deleted her AOL account; which means several things > >> > >>1) she is not okay & very angry > >>2) she was an impostor (from the FDA or something) > >> just looking for trouble > >>3) she is okay but too embarrassed to show back up > >>4) here under another name lurking . . . . > >> > >> > >>just some thoughts, > >> > >>jeannine > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > __ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
Can we surmise that her case was DEFINITELY not Agyria? Afterall, the requirement of permanent colorization was not met. Right? jd -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 3:52 AM Subject: Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye >Tut,tut, >Could be the AOL 30 day free offer ran out. >Became dissatisfied with AOL restrictions or complexity. >Got what she needed and moved on. >Be kind, it's the season! > Chuck > >"Reality is a crutch for those who can't handle the paranormal." > >On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:33:21 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote: > >>She has apparently deleted her AOL account; which means several things >> >>1) she is not okay & very angry >>2) she was an impostor (from the FDA or something) >> just looking for trouble >>3) she is okay but too embarrassed to show back up >>4) here under another name lurking . . . . >> >> >>just some thoughts, >> >>jeannine > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
Jeannine wrote: > [Donna] has apparently deleted her AOL account; which means several > things > > 1) she is not okay & very angry She has had a *very* big scare. Few of us would have been any less upset. > 2) she was an impostor (from the FDA or something) just looking for > trouble She's been with us more than long enough to lay this sort of suspicion to rest entirely. (She was away for a spell that might have given some of you the impression she was fairly new to the list. She's been here almost as long as I have.) > 3) she is okay but too embarrassed to show back up Thankfully, she seems to be okay. Doctors one and two said she had argyria. A third said ... no. Go figure. None of these diagnoses was confirmed by biopsy or other test. She has regained her normal color, but now has to deal with the question of what *did* happen, and, I imagine, lurking suspicions of what it *still* could have been. > 4) here under another name lurking . . . . That would be nice to hope. I wouldn't blame her for feeling reluctant to dive back in. > just some thoughts, There are some valuable insights to be gained from this experience. I have to say more about it all, but I will have to deal with a couple of issues before I post my comments. I've been too busy to give it the attention it deserves. We're getting ready to tear apart the kitchen... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>donna OK???? gone bye bye
Tut,tut, Could be the AOL 30 day free offer ran out. Became dissatisfied with AOL restrictions or complexity. Got what she needed and moved on. Be kind, it's the season! Chuck "Reality is a crutch for those who can't handle the paranormal." On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:33:21 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote: >She has apparently deleted her AOL account; which means several things > >1) she is not okay & very angry >2) she was an impostor (from the FDA or something) > just looking for trouble >3) she is okay but too embarrassed to show back up >4) here under another name lurking . . . . > > >just some thoughts, > >jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
