Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too big  
to be killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection though.   
dee PS Thornit and oil are good for killing ear mites but only UK do  
it I believe.


On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them  
and the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a  
store bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for  
treating the ears but it never goes away.  My question is would cs  
alone take care of the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in  
with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe for a dog?

Dianne

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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or a yeast 
infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not the ear mites.  
The liquid from the vet would help with ear mites, but not a yeast infection.  
If it were my dog, I would probably treat for both.  I think DMSO added would 
have value.  JMHO.  MA

On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:

Hello group-
>We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and the 
>poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought 
>solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it 
>never goes away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or 
>would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this 
>mixture be safe for a dog?
>Dianne
>
>
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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Garnet]

CS alone will leave the ears too wet. Most of the time it is 
yeast
not mites. If the dog has food allergies, most often to the 
grains
wheat in particular, in dog food then the problem will not 
go away

until the allergen is removed. Heavy ear flaps can also keep the
ear overly moist and encourage yeast in which case maintenance
cleaning and treatment must be ongoing.

DMSO is good a drying out moist tissues, but even with DMSO
mixed into the CS I would not be putting a lot of liquid in 
the ear.


ACV is also a good cleaner.

If it is wheat allergy the dog needs to be kept off all 
wheat even

treats. This is probably the most common cause of recurring
ear infections in dogs.

Garnet


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MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or 
a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not 
the ear mites.  The liquid from the vet would help with ear mites, but 
not a yeast infection.  If it were my dog, I would probably treat for 
both.  I think DMSO added would have value.  JMHO.  MA

On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them 
and the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a 
store bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid 
for treating the ears but it never goes away.  My question is would cs 
alone take care of the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in 
with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe for a dog?

Dianne


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[sol]

MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or 
a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not 
the ear mites.  
I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections. 
CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other 
treatments for the mites to be more effective.


I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut 
down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus 
reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my 
pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.

 sol


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Garnet]

If you use a chemical miticide the DMSO could transport it into
the body and across the Blood Brain Barrier so be careful on
the timing.

I would not treat for mites unless you know that is what it is
since the treatments are mostly chemical.

And if it is yeast you are not addressing the yeast by treating
for mites since the treatments are different.

Garnet


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sol wrote:

MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, 
or a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but 
not the ear mites.  
I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections. 
CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other 
treatments for the mites to be more effective.


I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut 
down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus 
reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my 
pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.

 sol


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Bob Banever]

Dianne,

  It depends on what is causing the infection in the ears.  If it is yeast 
(very common, usually brownish gunk) then vinegar will deal with it quite well. 
  Use white vinegar and dilute it 5/1 with water (5 parts water, 1 part 
vinegar).  You can use a cotton swab to GENTLY clean the ears with the same 
solution, but first fill the ear canal with the liquid and then massage it in, 
then let the dog shake it out as much as possible.  CS will deal with bacterial 
or viral problems, not yeast IMO.  Mites might need a mitecide of some sort.

Bob
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  Subject: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO


  Hello group-
  We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and the 
poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought solution 
for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it never goes 
away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or would you need 
to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe 
for a dog?
  Dianne


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Fuzzmom]

If ears are gunky..waxy and have a dirty socks sort of smell then you've ost 
like ly got yeast. Try the vinegar and also add acv to food or 
water..however she'll tae it. onl thing that has wored for my lab otherwise 
i'd be at the vet every month. And if she's allergic to grain or sugary 
foods that could cause them to recur Constantly..chagne the diet and tell 
your friend to look into whether it is food related. haven't found a 
treatment for mites yet that's natural if yu do let me know.
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From: "sol" 

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Subject: Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO



MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or
a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not
the ear mites.

I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections.
CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other
treatments for the mites to be more effective.

I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut
down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus
reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my
pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.
 sol


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Fuzzmom]

What's thornit oil? Where do you find it.. i the u.s. 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO


  It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too big to be 
killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection though.  dee PS Thornit 
and oil are good for killing ear mites but only UK do it I believe.


  On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and 
the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store bought 
solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it 
never goes away.  My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or 
would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this 
mixture be safe for a dog?
Dianne



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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Tony Moody]

Hallo Garnet,

Have you tried the Borax treatment for mites? ref:
http://www.earthclinic.com/pets.html
CURE DEMODECTIC AND SARCOPTIC MANGE

I value you your comments,

OK,
Tony Moody

On 8 Oct 2009 at 19:36, Garnet wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

> If you use a chemical miticide the DMSO could transport it into
> the body and across the Blood Brain Barrier so be careful on
> the timing.
> 
> I would not treat for mites unless you know that is what it is
> since the treatments are mostly chemical.
> 
> And if it is yeast you are not addressing the yeast by treating
> for mites since the treatments are different.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> 
> http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
> Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
> 
> 
> sol wrote:
> > MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> >> Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites, or
> >> a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection, but not
> >> the ear mites.  
> > I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections.
> > CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other
> > treatments for the mites to be more effective.
> > 
> > I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will cut
> > down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus
> > reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my
> > pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.
> >  sol
> > 


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Tony Moody]

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

On 9 Oct 2009 at 6:49, Tony Moody wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

> Hallo Garnet,
> 
> Have you tried the Borax treatment for mites? ref:
> http://www.earthclinic.com/pets.html
> CURE DEMODECTIC AND SARCOPTIC MANGE
> 
> I value you your comments,
> 
> OK,
> Tony Moody
> 
> On 8 Oct 2009 at 19:36, Garnet wrote about :
> Subject : Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO
> 
> > If you use a chemical miticide the DMSO could transport it into
> > the body and across the Blood Brain Barrier so be careful on
> > the timing.
> > 
> > I would not treat for mites unless you know that is what it is
> > since the treatments are mostly chemical.
> > 
> > And if it is yeast you are not addressing the yeast by treating
> > for mites since the treatments are different.
> > 
> > Garnet
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
> > Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
> > 
> > 
> > sol wrote:
> > > MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> > >> Hi Dianne.  It would probably depend on if the problem is ear mites,
> > >> or a yeast infection, or both.  CS would help the yeast infection,
> > >> but not the ear mites.  
> > > I believe that with ear mites there are often secondary infections.
> > > CS/DMSO should help considerably with those, thus allowing any other
> > > treatments for the mites to be more effective.
> > > 
> > > I'd also give EIS[CS] orally AS the dog's drinking water. This will
> > > cut down any other subclinical infections the dog might have, and thus
> > > reduce the load on immune system. I believe from experience that in my
> > > pets mites have always been associated with immune suppression.
> > >  sol
> > > 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Ode Coyote]

  Vicks vapo rub works really well to kill mange mites.

Ode


At 01:42 PM 10/8/2009 +0100, you wrote:
It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too big to 
be killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection though.  dee PS 
Thornit and oil are good for killing ear mites but only UK do it I believe.


On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and 
the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store 
bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the 
ears but it never goes away.  My question is would cs alone take care of 
the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate 
the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe for a dog?

Dianne


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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This is the thing, I think you can only get it in the UK.  It is  
iodine powder and works well for mites mixed with olive oil.  dee


On 9 Oct 2009, at 05:13, Fuzzmom wrote:


What's thornit oil? Where do you find it.. i the u.s.
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too  
big to be killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection 
though.  dee PS Thornit and oil are good for killing ear mites but  
only UK do it I believe.


On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with  
them and the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been  
using a store bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid  
for treating the ears but it never goes away.  My question is would  
cs alone take care of the problem or would you need to put some  
DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe  
for a dog?

Dianne

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Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO

[Fuzzmom]

How would you apply it? cut with water or straight? on the fur or inside the 
ear/ i mean you dn't want to o.d. them or have them eat it?
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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>gunky dog earss - CS / DMSO





  Vicks vapo rub works really well to kill mange mites.

Ode


At 01:42 PM 10/8/2009 +0100, you wrote:

It would be safe but I doubt it would be any good as mites are too big to
be killed by CS.  It would kill any secondary infection though.  dee PS
Thornit and oil are good for killing ear mites but only UK do it I 
believe.


On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:40, Dianne France wrote:


Hello group-
We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and
the poor thing has terribly gunky ears.  She has been using a store
bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the
ears but it never goes away.  My question is would cs alone take care of
the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate
the gunk?  Would this mixture be safe for a dog?
Dianne


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