Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and deprives your thyroid of something it needs. Maybe the problem is with the synthetic form of vitamin C iinstead of a whole food choice. Olushola
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Even people who advocate Vit C say that it does deplete iodine, which is a halogen and this would help cancer greatly as iodine is essential in the prevention of cancer--especially breast cancer apparently. Enough doubt to cause me to re-think taking large amounts of *any* supplement. dee Not a stong arguement against C... Pauling died at age 93 when most people are long gone anyway. I'd take these odds! Chuck Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
I dissolved the soy lecithin in the distilled water before it went into the sonic cleaner. This only took a couple of hours just shaking it up occasionally and then it was completely dissolved. The only problem is, I am on another list which strongly suggests that taking supplemental Vit C can actually help cancer to survive. I would be interested to hear any comments on this. dee I whip the pre-mix by hand and it takes a little more time to get a good dissolve, but the emulsification in the finished product is vastly superior to soy granules and it always stays perfectly in suspension. Sendt fra Yahoo! Mail på Android From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net; To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Subject: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:30:49 AM I have made the Lip C with both liquid sunflower lecithin and soy lecithin granules. Although I¹m not a fan of soy, I found that my body tolerated the soy lecithin okay.The liquid is sticky and MUCH more difficult to emulsifyalthough it can be done. You simply need to spend about 3 times longer with the sonic cleaner to make sure that everything dissolves correctly. Shaking it in a jar beforehand doesn¹t hurt either.Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to many disorders. My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs, maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign you are overdoing and the body is putting on the brakes before you do damage. I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was proof to me of just how intensely Vit C grabs iodine and removes it from your system. Thoughts to ponder Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: I dissolved the soy lecithin in the distilled water before it went into the sonic cleaner. This only took a couple of hours just shaking it up occasionally and then it was completely dissolved. The only problem is, I am on another list which strongly suggests that taking supplemental Vit C can actually *help* cancer to survive. I would be interested to hear any comments on this. dee -- I whip the pre-mix by hand and it takes a little more time to get a good dissolve, but the emulsification in the finished product is vastly superior to soy granules and it always stays perfectly in suspension. Sendt fra Yahoo! Mail på Android -- * From:** * Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net; * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com; * Subject: * RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:30:49 AM I have made the Lip C with both liquid sunflower lecithin and soy lecithin granules. Although I’m not a fan of soy, I found that my body tolerated the soy lecithin okay. The liquid is sticky and MUCH more difficult to emulsify—although it can be done. You simply need to spend about 3 times longer with the sonic cleaner to make sure that everything dissolves correctly. Shaking it in a jar beforehand doesn’t hurt either. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011) *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com --
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
These are conclusions I have come to Dave which is why I don¹t use the Vit C anymore. I know the liposomal kind doesn¹t cause the same problems that ordinary stuff does, be even so, I have become very wary now of supplementing with anything out of context i.e anything that is not in food form. Except Vit D3 which I take in liposomal spray form. dee From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to many disorders. My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs, maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign you are overdoing and the body is putting on the brakes before you do damage. I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was proof to me of just how intensely Vit C grabs iodine and removes it from your system. Thoughts to ponder Dave
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Dee The liposomal would escape the stomach acid but would multiply the chance of thyroid problem as there would be so much more in the blood stream and would also increase the acidic side of the PH scale. It seems that moderation is the best course as sometimes our bodies don't get enough from just the food we eat. I still take Vit C but only two days a week, one gram per dose,I started that because it neutralized MMS and CDS. Now if I could only get my temp above 96.9. sometimes it is only 96.5 Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: These are conclusions I have come to Dave which is why I don’t use the Vit C anymore. I know the liposomal kind doesn’t cause the same problems that ordinary stuff does, be even so, I have become very wary now of supplementing with anything out of context i.e anything that is not in food form. Except Vit D3 which I take in liposomal spray form. dee -- *From: *Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Resent-Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to many disorders. My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs, maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign you are overdoing and the body is putting on the brakes before you do damage. I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was proof to me of just how intensely Vit C grabs iodine and removes it from your system. Thoughts to ponder Dave
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Hi Dave, I had a temperature like yours and finally found a doctor who suggested the Wilson Body Temperature protocol. It has worked wonders for me. Perhaps it would help you also. PT From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 4, 2012 2:54:48 PM Subject: Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Dee The liposomal would escape the stomach acid but would multiply the chance of thyroid problem as there would be so much more in the blood stream and would also increase the acidic side of the PH scale. It seems that moderation is the best course as sometimes our bodies don't get enough from just the food we eat. I still take Vit C but only two days a week, one gram per dose,I started that because it neutralized MMS and CDS. Now if I could only get my temp above 96.9. sometimes it is only 96.5 Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: These are conclusions I have come to Dave which is why I don’t use the Vit C anymore. I know the liposomal kind doesn’t cause the same problems that ordinary stuff does, be even so, I have become very wary now of supplementing with anything out of context i.e anything that is not in food form. Except Vit D3 which I take in liposomal spray form. dee From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to many disorders. My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs, maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign you are overdoing and the body is putting on the brakes before you do damage. I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was proof to me of just how intensely Vit C grabs iodine and removes it from your system. Thoughts to ponder Dave
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
PT Thanks I will look It up. Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dave, I had a temperature like yours and finally found a doctor who suggested the Wilson Body Temperature protocol. It has worked wonders for me. Perhaps it would help you also. PT -- *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, November 4, 2012 2:54:48 PM *Subject:* Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Dee The liposomal would escape the stomach acid but would multiply the chance of thyroid problem as there would be so much more in the blood stream and would also increase the acidic side of the PH scale. It seems that moderation is the best course as sometimes our bodies don't get enough from just the food we eat. I still take Vit C but only two days a week, one gram per dose,I started that because it neutralized MMS and CDS. Now if I could only get my temp above 96.9. sometimes it is only 96.5 Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: These are conclusions I have come to Dave which is why I don’t use the Vit C anymore. I know the liposomal kind doesn’t cause the same problems that ordinary stuff does, be even so, I have become very wary now of supplementing with anything out of context i.e anything that is not in food form. Except Vit D3 which I take in liposomal spray form. dee -- *From: *Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Resent-Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800 Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to many disorders. My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs, maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign you are overdoing and the body is putting on the brakes before you do damage. I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was proof to me of just how intensely Vit C grabs iodine and removes it from your system. Thoughts to ponder Dave
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Not a stong arguement against C... Pauling died at age 93 when most people are long gone anyway. I'd take these odds! Chuck Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp. On 11/4/2012 1:16:35 PM, Dave Darrin (davedar...@gmail.com) wrote: Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Hello Chuck I figure I'll reach middle age at that point in my life. Haven't made it yet at 77 Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Not a stong arguement against C... Pauling died at age 93 when most people are long gone anyway. I'd take these odds! Chuck Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp. On 11/4/2012 1:16:35 PM, Dave Darrin (davedar...@gmail.com) wrote: Dee I think you have hit on a problem that has concerned me for quite some time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative to vascular problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with massive doses of Vit C. Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large doses at that time would be counter productive I would think. Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
Middle age, I rather think these days starts @ 40 and is related to menopause, men never reach middle age, they lurch from childhood to second childhood and disguise it skillfully with many strong tactics displayed from teens to whenever they decline into what is conveniently called dementia. There is a song about it involving knobbly knees. Women often love them anyway, being mothers at heart. Jane To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Hello Chuck I figure I'll reach middle age at that point in my life. Haven't made it yet at 77 Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Not a stong arguement against C... Pauling died at age 93 when most people are long gone anyway. I'd take these odds! Chuck Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp.
RE: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
LOL. Ya gotta luv us tho don't ya, after all, we fix things when they stop working. LOL. N. From: highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:42:29 +1100 Middle age, I rather think these days starts @ 40 and is related to menopause, men never reach middle age, they lurch from childhood to second childhood and disguise it skillfully with many strong tactics displayed from teens to whenever they decline into what is conveniently called dementia. There is a song about it involving knobbly knees. Women often love them anyway, being mothers at heart. Jane To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer Hello Chuck I figure I'll reach middle age at that point in my life. Haven't made it yet at 77 Dave On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Not a stong arguement against C... Pauling died at age 93 when most people are long gone anyway. I'd take these odds! Chuck Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp.
