Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP REGISTER MESSAGE flow

2021-11-20 Thread Arun Tagare
Thanks Ranjit & Paul,

Yes, NW can send ‘n’ number of PCSCF addresses,

Yes, agree Ranjit it’s may be not practical but just wanted to understand
if that is allowed? Or Nw accepts REG in sequence like

Reg to 1 PCSCF
Fail/error response from NW
Then retry on 2PCSCF address
Fail/error response from NW
Then retry on 3rd PCSCF address
Success from NW

So, here UE is Registered success on 3rd PCSCF address.

So, my question is it allowed to send Registration request to all received
PCSCF at the same time?
and assume UE registered on the 1 success response from NW and ignore
remaining. I m correlating Registration flow with INVITE forking responses
scenario here.

Please let me know if it allowed?


On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 10:44 PM, Ranjit Avasarala 
wrote:

> Hi Arun
>
> I am not sure how you can get more than 1 P-CSCF address(s) as the P-CSCF
> address is discovered by UE i.e returned by GGSN.  So even if we assume a
> scenario where the GGSN returns 5 P-CSCF address, then yes u can send
> REGISTER to all of them ( but this is not a practical scenario)
>
> Then as per the protocol, all 5 P-CSCFs will respond with 401 and the UE
> needs to keep track of all 5 401s and send REGISTER with authentication to
> all of them. Then if we assume all of them accept then UE is simultaneously
> registered with 5 P-CSCFs
>
> so though theoretically this may seem possible, but should not and will
> not occur in a practical scenario
>
> To understand more about P-CSCF discovery refer to 3GPP TS 34.229
>
> Regards
> Ranjit
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 1:00 AM Arun Tagare 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> Need some info, can UE be allowed (as per rule) to send SIP REGISTER
>> requests to all the received P-CSCF addresses from NW (during attach) ?
>>
>> For Ex.
>> If UE received 5 P-CSCF address during attach
>>
>> Is it allowed to send REG to address at the same time
>> UE REG to P-CSCF-1--->
>> UE REG to P-CSCF-2--->
>> UE REG to P-CSCF-3--->
>> UE REG to P-CSCF-4--->
>> UE REG to P-CSCF-5--->
>>
>> <--- 401 from P-CSCF-2
>> <--- 401 from P-CSCF-3
>> <--- 401 from P-CSCF-5
>>
>> UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-2--->
>> UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-3--->
>> UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-5--->
>>
>> <-- 200 OK from P-CSCF-5
>>
>> So, UE finally connected to P-CSCF-5
>> I know this may increase signalling load on NW, but want to understand is
>> this flow allowed as per rules ? Or there are any restrictions please help
>> on understanding
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> With Regards
>>
>> Arun A. Tagare
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Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP REGISTER MESSAGE flow

2021-11-20 Thread Ranjit Avasarala
Hi Arun

I am not sure how you can get more than 1 P-CSCF address(s) as the P-CSCF
address is discovered by UE i.e returned by GGSN.  So even if we assume a
scenario where the GGSN returns 5 P-CSCF address, then yes u can send
REGISTER to all of them ( but this is not a practical scenario)

Then as per the protocol, all 5 P-CSCFs will respond with 401 and the UE
needs to keep track of all 5 401s and send REGISTER with authentication to
all of them. Then if we assume all of them accept then UE is simultaneously
registered with 5 P-CSCFs

so though theoretically this may seem possible, but should not and will not
occur in a practical scenario

To understand more about P-CSCF discovery refer to 3GPP TS 34.229

Regards
Ranjit

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 1:00 AM Arun Tagare  wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Need some info, can UE be allowed (as per rule) to send SIP REGISTER
> requests to all the received P-CSCF addresses from NW (during attach) ?
>
> For Ex.
> If UE received 5 P-CSCF address during attach
>
> Is it allowed to send REG to address at the same time
> UE REG to P-CSCF-1--->
> UE REG to P-CSCF-2--->
> UE REG to P-CSCF-3--->
> UE REG to P-CSCF-4--->
> UE REG to P-CSCF-5--->
>
> <--- 401 from P-CSCF-2
> <--- 401 from P-CSCF-3
> <--- 401 from P-CSCF-5
>
> UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-2--->
> UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-3--->
> UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-5--->
>
> <-- 200 OK from P-CSCF-5
>
> So, UE finally connected to P-CSCF-5
> I know this may increase signalling load on NW, but want to understand is
> this flow allowed as per rules ? Or there are any restrictions please help
> on understanding
>
>
>
> --
>
> With Regards
>
> Arun A. Tagare
> +91 9449 029729
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Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP REGISTER MESSAGE flow

2021-11-20 Thread Paul Kyzivat

Arun,

Your query doesn't have enough context to understand the case. It does 
however appear to more likely to be something that should be answered by 
someone in the 3GPP IMS community. If you want an answer here please 
spell out your case in much more detail.


Thanks,
Paul

On 11/20/21 1:59 AM, Arun Tagare wrote:

Hi Team,

Need some info, can UE be allowed (as per rule) to send SIP REGISTER
requests to all the received P-CSCF addresses from NW (during attach) ?

For Ex.
If UE received 5 P-CSCF address during attach

Is it allowed to send REG to address at the same time
UE REG to P-CSCF-1--->
UE REG to P-CSCF-2--->
UE REG to P-CSCF-3--->
UE REG to P-CSCF-4--->
UE REG to P-CSCF-5--->

<--- 401 from P-CSCF-2
<--- 401 from P-CSCF-3
<--- 401 from P-CSCF-5

UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-2--->
UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-3--->
UE AUTH-REG to P-CSCF-5--->

<-- 200 OK from P-CSCF-5

So, UE finally connected to P-CSCF-5
I know this may increase signalling load on NW, but want to understand is
this flow allowed as per rules ? Or there are any restrictions please help
on understanding





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