Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways.Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201Andover, MA. 01810O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
Doubtful, there are customers running with more than 3 servers. From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Nitin Mirchandani Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:14 AM To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. _ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
Have you tried setting this up in a lab, with your three servers, and sipXecs as the DNS to see how they play together. Get your lab successfully built, and apply what you learn from that configuration to a network with another DNS server setup. From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Nitin Mirchandani Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:14 AM To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. _ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
have many customers running with 3-5 servers... your statement is incorrect. i would say that your installation is unstable with more than 2 servers. mike On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com wrote: Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. -- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] Sending faxes
On 4/13/2012 8:20 PM, m...@grounded.net wrote: I believe I saw a thread a while back where someone was asking about sending faxes. Some searching shows that some have asked but that there are no plans. Is this still the case or are others interested in this? Even a shared outgoing account as a 'group' would be so very welcome and would instantly eliminate our having to use additional hylafax/avantfax servers just for this function. It would be way nicer to be able to tell potential customers that everything can be done from the one system. We recently had an install that was a heavy hylafax user with usb modems. We are now using sipx for receiving faxes and hylafax for sending. http://www.drouillard.biz/blog/sipxecs-hylafax-and-t38modem/ -- Regards -- Gerald Drouillard Technology Architect Drouillard Associates, Inc. http://www.Drouillard.biz ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] Sending faxes
Pointedly they dont have a way to use t38modem in a way that works. Never have thats why noone uses hylafax in t38 deployments. You still have to use hardware between hylafax and your t.38 switch. So if you put up a separate hylafax box us an ATA and be done with it. It cant really integrate. I tried getting the t.38 virtual modems to work a while back but ran out of time and didn't get it to work. I've seen others in the hylafax list talking about using those but haven't paid that much attention. Maybe they work well now? As for the ATA, that's how we've been doing it for those who need a fax interface but some prefer having both a physical fax and a virtual fax such as the avantfax gui. Some just want the virtual gui only. If sipx had outgoing, the hylafax/avantfax setup would instantly get removed solving a big headache. Where do I vote and can I vote multiple times? :) ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via PPTP VPN.Latency is sub 10ms. Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to all protocols) be an issue? We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation. Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see that sometime later the sending profile fails. RgdsNitin Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers have many customers running with 3-5 servers... your statement is incorrect. i would say that your installation is unstable with more than 2 servers. mike On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com wrote: Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201Andover, MA. 01810O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201Andover, MA. 01810O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
I would suspect ipsec would work well, we use it all the time for site to site vpn's. On Apr 14, 2012 10:46 AM, Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com wrote: The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via PPTP VPN. Latency is sub 10ms. Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to all protocols) be an issue? We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation. Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see that sometime later the sending profile fails. Rgds Nitin -- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers have many customers running with 3-5 servers... your statement is incorrect. i would say that your installation is unstable with more than 2 servers. mike On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com wrote: Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. -- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: helpd...@voice.myitdepartment.net Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
First mention of a Tunnel between the servers. Again, I'd recommend you get this working in a lab first, without a tunnel. Then add a tunnel between servers and see if it breaks things. You will likely see what is breaking it very quickly, and without guessing. From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Nitin Mirchandani Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:46 AM To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via PPTP VPN. Latency is sub 10ms. Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to all protocols) be an issue? We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation. Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see that sometime later the sending profile fails. Rgds Nitin _ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers have many customers running with 3-5 servers... your statement is incorrect. i would say that your installation is unstable with more than 2 servers. mike On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com wrote: Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. _ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote: 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? Send profiles to that particular server George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
You can simulate this inside but I think pptp is a poor choice in that the packets use a different IP address to be native to the network. IPSEC AND OPENVPN are more suited to point to point and can properly tested with the same network schema before rolling the systems out and over a vpn. Pptp is really REALLY a poor choice here. You might not understand but the routing and broadcast of how pptp works in a firewall advertises and routes thins differently. It might be fine for some remote user but as a site to site con it is somewhat crippling (IMO). On Apr 14, 2012 11:42 AM, Todd Hodgen thod...@frontier.com wrote: First mention of a Tunnel between the servers. Again, I’d recommend you get this working in a lab first, without a tunnel. Then add a tunnel between servers and see if it breaks things. You will likely see what is breaking it very quickly, and without guessing. ** ** *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] *On Behalf Of *Nitin Mirchandani *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:46 AM *To:* sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers*** * ** ** The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via PPTP VPN. Latency is sub 10ms. Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to all protocols) be an issue? We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation. Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see that sometime later the sending profile fails. Rgds Nitin -- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers have many customers running with 3-5 servers... ** ** your statement is incorrect. i would say that your installation is unstable with more than 2 servers. ** ** mike On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com wrote: Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in different ways. Each time error is different. If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers. -- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400 From: mpic...@ezuce.com To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration stuff... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae geo...@ezuce.com wrote:* *** 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com Hello Installed it 5 or 6 time. Now, the third server has come with service disabled Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers? ** ** ** ** Send profiles to that particular server ** ** George ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ** ** -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com ** ** There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ** ** -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square Suite 201 Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher http://twitter.com/mpicher www.ezuce.com ** ** There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. ** ** ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ -- LAN/Telephony/Security
