RE: A question on security configuration
On 30 Aug 2004 at 14:48, Ritu Kedia wrote: Hi Andreas, My application does use Slide's WebDAV Client Lib for communicating with Slide. So yes, both the direct access(via Word) and the access from my application are via WebDAV. I want to disable slide security checks in the direct access modeI would most likely use James' cluster refresh solution along with custom security implementation... So everybody is allowed to access as long as he or she goes via a WebDAV client? Is this really what you want? With reference to what you pointed below regarding performance issues with DeltaV turned on: Have you already faced a problem with that? If yes, then what is the nature of the performance problem? Is it just due to security checks or does it exist even with security turned off (i.e. for puts, checkin-checkout, etc)? I did not face the problem with the history folder, but I did experience it with normal folders. Putting the tenth thousand document into a single collection needs about 30 seconds. So having a collection in /history for each document would cause performance issues even if you don't have a single huge collection under /files. Therefor the hack is an interesting solution for this. The reason for the performance problem are: 1. adding a child means deleting all existing children from the store and adding the existing plus the new one. 2. loading a collection (Structure.retrieve()) means instantiating all children of this collection on stock, even if they are not needed. I haven't got experience with Security, but I think as long as you don't have very many ACLs the security checks should not slow down the system too much. I use DeltaV with both auto-versioning and security turned off. But I version every file in the system. Do you see any issues with the versioning once the # of files in the repository has gone above a particular limit? (I delete the version history when a file is deleted) Thanks for your comments. Regards, Ritu -Original Message- From: Andreas Probst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:53 AM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: RE: A question on security configuration On 27 Aug 2004 at 13:19, Ritu Kedia wrote: :( ... The distinguishing factor in my requests is neither the user credential nor the resource being accessed. The same user should be able to access the Slide Repository either via my WebService or via MS-Word/Excel/etc. I.e. The same user could access the same resource in either mode. When accessed via WebService, my application is doing the authorization. When accessed directly, I would have to override the default slide security implementation with my custom implementation. Can't you develop your HTTP application as a WebDAV client talking to Slide. You would use the login name and the password of the HTTP user to connect to Slide via WebDAV. So the information about who did the PUTs etc. wouldn't be lost. You would not need to implement the Security yourself. WebDAV users (Word) would talk to Slide directly. Actually checking the security stuff is not that expensive, although this probably depends on the number of ACLs on the path. You should be more concerned about performance when you get big directories, i.e. with more than thousand children. If you use DeltaV the /history folder could become a performance issue very soon. Maybe you've already explained why this is not possible for you, if so please excuse this remark... Regards, Andreas I think I would have to try the clustering solution only with my custom security implementation (since the direct slide access should also follow the same security checks as done in my application). But I won't be able to get to it may be for another month. A couple of questions regarding custom security implementation... 1. Is the security implementation class configurable via Domain.xml? There is a security store configuration in Domain.xml but I haven't seen the entry for the security helper class. 2. Which methods would have to be implemented if I am interested only in the authorization checks and not the assignments? Thanks, Ritu -Original Message- From: James Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:44 AM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: A question on security configuration Done a little more thinking about this. I think separate namespaces sounds like a good idea, but there may be a problem. Since the Store configurations are per-namespace it's likely that the ExtendedStore cache will be per namespace as well. If this is the case then you're back to a situation where you'll need clustering to keep the caches in sync. Unless you really want everything to run in the same webapp you'd probably be better off just running a cluster with two nodes. Stefan's suggestion gave me an idea, though (several actually). What you
Simple XML and Office extractor configs
Title: Message Hi, The simple and office extractors that are configured in the Domain.xml file by default. What do they do? ie. One is configured to /slide/articles/test.xml and the other to /slide/doc. Do they create these dirs and put data in them or do they only extract properties from files under those directories? Do I need to have a test.xml to make it work? I'm getting an xpath failure from the simple extractor init process and am not sure whether how they should be configured. Slide starts but I'm guessing that the extractors (or at least one) didn't load. Thanks, Warwick Warwick BurrowsSenior Software Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fax: 512.343.8727 9600Great Hills Trail, #325Austin, TX 78759http://www.e2open.com
RE: Simple XML and Office extractor configs
Hi Warwick, The MS office extractor will extract the OLE metadata, like author and date modified, from office documents. The example directory /slide/doc is the directory you want it to extract properties from. The metadata is stored as regular DAV properties once extracted. That directory doesn't exist. It is just an example. The overhead of using /slide/files is probably too much for people who don't need it. I'm not sure about the xml extractor, but I was getting the same exception on init. I think it is a bug because I don't remember getting it a couple months ago. I just disabled it. -Ryan _ From: Warwick Burrows [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:45 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Simple XML and Office extractor configs Hi, The simple and office extractors that are configured in the Domain.xml file by default. What do they do? ie. One is configured to /slide/articles/test.xml and the other to /slide/doc. Do they create these dirs and put data in them or do they only extract properties from files under those directories? Do I need to have a test.xml to make it work? I'm getting an xpath failure from the simple extractor init process and am not sure whether how they should be configured. Slide starts but I'm guessing that the extractors (or at least one) didn't load. Thanks, Warwick http://www.e2open.com/ _ Warwick Burrows Senior Software Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 512.343.8727 9600 Great Hills Trail, #325 Austin, TX 78759 http://www.e2open.com http://www.e2open.com/ _
RE: Simple XML and Office extractor configs
Thanks. So if a new document is uploaded under /slide/doc then the office extractor will extract properties from it but not otherwise. Will it also process any files that are already there when it starts or would you need to upload them for it to process the properties again? I would like it enabled for my whole tree but I'm not sure what you mean when you say it may be too much for most people. Is there performance problems with the implementation? Thanks, Warwick -Original Message- From: Ryan Rhodes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:46 PM To: 'Slide Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Simple XML and Office extractor configs Hi Warwick, The MS office extractor will extract the OLE metadata, like author and date modified, from office documents. The example directory /slide/doc is the directory you want it to extract properties from. The metadata is stored as regular DAV properties once extracted. That directory doesn't exist. It is just an example. The overhead of using /slide/files is probably too much for people who don't need it. I'm not sure about the xml extractor, but I was getting the same exception on init. I think it is a bug because I don't remember getting it a couple months ago. I just disabled it. -Ryan _ From: Warwick Burrows [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:45 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Simple XML and Office extractor configs Hi, The simple and office extractors that are configured in the Domain.xml file by default. What do they do? ie. One is configured to /slide/articles/test.xml and the other to /slide/doc. Do they create these dirs and put data in them or do they only extract properties from files under those directories? Do I need to have a test.xml to make it work? I'm getting an xpath failure from the simple extractor init process and am not sure whether how they should be configured. Slide starts but I'm guessing that the extractors (or at least one) didn't load. Thanks, Warwick http://www.e2open.com/ _ Warwick Burrows Senior Software Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 512.343.8727 9600 Great Hills Trail, #325 Austin, TX 78759 http://www.e2open.com http://www.e2open.com/ _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Simple XML and Office extractor configs
Actually, I don't know anything about the performance. I only meant that it was turned off by default and that was an example config. I've been using the MS content extractors I wrote only in a test environment, and I haven't had performance problems yet. The OLE metadata is the fastest thing you can extract, but I'm not sure if that gets called much more often than content extractors. The content extractor definitely only saves the content when it is originally saved or updated. I am guessing the property extractors do the same thing. This is actually a big problem I have with it right now. It would be easy to write a recursive touch tool, but the modification dates are meaningful in the application and I don't want them changed. Any ideas here would be great! -Ryan -Original Message- From: Warwick Burrows [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:12 PM To: 'Slide Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Simple XML and Office extractor configs Thanks. So if a new document is uploaded under /slide/doc then the office extractor will extract properties from it but not otherwise. Will it also process any files that are already there when it starts or would you need to upload them for it to process the properties again? I would like it enabled for my whole tree but I'm not sure what you mean when you say it may be too much for most people. Is there performance problems with the implementation? Thanks, Warwick -Original Message- From: Ryan Rhodes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:46 PM To: 'Slide Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Simple XML and Office extractor configs Hi Warwick, The MS office extractor will extract the OLE metadata, like author and date modified, from office documents. The example directory /slide/doc is the directory you want it to extract properties from. The metadata is stored as regular DAV properties once extracted. That directory doesn't exist. It is just an example. The overhead of using /slide/files is probably too much for people who don't need it. I'm not sure about the xml extractor, but I was getting the same exception on init. I think it is a bug because I don't remember getting it a couple months ago. I just disabled it. -Ryan _ From: Warwick Burrows [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:45 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Simple XML and Office extractor configs Hi, The simple and office extractors that are configured in the Domain.xml file by default. What do they do? ie. One is configured to /slide/articles/test.xml and the other to /slide/doc. Do they create these dirs and put data in them or do they only extract properties from files under those directories? Do I need to have a test.xml to make it work? I'm getting an xpath failure from the simple extractor init process and am not sure whether how they should be configured. Slide starts but I'm guessing that the extractors (or at least one) didn't load. Thanks, Warwick http://www.e2open.com/ _ Warwick Burrows Senior Software Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 512.343.8727 9600 Great Hills Trail, #325 Austin, TX 78759 http://www.e2open.com http://www.e2open.com/ _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
