[SLUG] Re: Talks for SLUG meetings (including this month's)

2000-10-09 Thread Angus Lees

On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 05:36:28PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 We had a long list of talks a while back, and they've finally dwindled away,
 leaving us with the opportunity to find some more...

i probably shouldn't give two talks in a row, but if there's no other
suggestions, i could give a talk on:

aegis
 sort of like bitkeeper, except it actually exists (and is GPL'd)

cfengine
 for maintaining config files, processes, etc on networks of
 machines - and how to use it and apt-get to do network-wide y2k
 upgrades without pressing a key ;)

mod_perl
 how to do any server side web stuff, the Right Way.
 (or .. "what php will never do" ;)


anyone actually interested in any of them?

anyone suddenly remember that they'd rather hear themselves talk
instead of me?

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Re: [SLUG] Queuing under Linux

2000-10-09 Thread tom burkart

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Peter Rundle wrote:

 I want to create a queue for an SMS messaging system. Can anyone point
Some of the carriers will actually accept email messages and resend them
as SMS.  Hutchinson is one of them - from memory.

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Re: [SLUG] Red Hat 7.0 network install setup

2000-10-09 Thread tom burkart

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Robert Maldon wrote:

  rpm -qp --filesbypkg anaconda-runtime-7.0.1-6.i386.rpm|grep genhdlist
  anaconda-runtime  /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/genhdlist
 You don't need to install the RH 7.0 version of anaconda in order to run
 the 7.0 version of genhdlist. You can find a useable version of genhdlist
 in the distributions misc/src/anaconda/utils dir (at least it's there in the
 6.X series). This version is used by a script detailed in the above FAQ.
Anaconda IS the default installer for RH 7.0.  It looks really pretty even
if the networking part doesn't quite work (I had a bleeding edge CD set
and the network setup does need some manual editing - or GUI if you want 
to go that way).

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Re: [SLUG] Recommend ISP?

2000-10-09 Thread Russell Ashdown

Give AccSoft a try.  Unlimited connection time (3 hr disconnect 
with immediate redial) and unlimited dl.  56k rate.  They also have 
pops all around Australia and can offer very cheap telephone rates 
to overseas

You can contact them on: 02 9281 8163

On 9 Oct 00, at 13:05, Bill wrote about:
[SLUG] Recommend  ISP?
 
 Can anybody recommend a reliable Sydney based ISP who provides an account 
 with no download limits.
 
 Time limits/hourly charges would be acceptable if necessary.
 



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[SLUG] nautilus, libs, debian woes

2000-10-09 Thread Adrian van den Dries

Hi all.

Trying to compile nautilus here (out of cvs) and ./autogen.sh (configure,
really) gets as far as testing the freetype2 libs, saying

checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes
checking for FT_Init_FreeType in -lfreetype... no

which is clever, because /usr/share/doc/freetype2/docs/apiref.txt provides:

TT_Init_FreeType( TT_Engine*  engine )

and so on (TT_* instead of FT_*). I do some research, and it looks as
though freetype1 uses TT_* and freetype2 uses FT_*. Not to mention the fact
that the packages provide libttf.* and not libfreetype.* A few packages
depend on this freetype lib, so it looks like there's something awry with
the debs here.

Is there a way around this other than to compile it separately?

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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread Scott Howard

On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:57:27AM +1100, Peter Rundle wrote:
 Something to keep in mind is that underscore (ie, _ ) is technically not
 a valid character in DNS, and thus should probably be avoided in hostnames.
 
 Not only just technically not valid, if you are using BIND (standard Linux
 named) then an underscore in a hostname will cause the name server to become
 non-authorative for the zone that the host is in. In technical terms this is
 "a bad thing".

Putting "check-names warn;"  or "check-names ignore;" in the relevant
section in your named.conf will get around this.
(I'd recommend using "warn" so you don't miss something more critical in
your zonefile).

From memory there's also a compile time option to make underscore valid
(although I'd recommand using the config file rather than recompiling)

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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread Thom May

No No No No No!!! :-)
http://www.debian.org/~branden/#i810

is all you will ever need. (Branden is Debian's X Maintainer...)
-Thom
At some point around Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:47:30 +1100, DaZZa said:
 On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Dan Treacy wrote:
 
  ObLinux: BTW if anyone has any secret simple solutions for the Debian/X/i810
  secanrio please feel free to share :-)
 
 Use SuSE. :-)
 
 Both 6.4 and 7.0 support the i810 card. I think 6.3 does also, with a
 small upgrade to the X server.
 
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RE: [SLUG] remote printing acorss Internet, possible ??

2000-10-09 Thread Dave Kempe

Doesn't lpr or lprng work over the internet?
Can't the clients just insert a hostname and then print to that, as long as
the permissions are ok then it should work right?

dave

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 Subject: Re: [SLUG] remote printing acorss Internet, possible ??


 On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Ricky C wrote:

  we have a scanner that could send directly to an IP address. Is
 it possible
  to make it print to a printer across the Internet and behind a
 firewall ??
 Yes it can be done - However if you want it done safely it is involved.

 In brief:
 You have to have a ssl (VPN) tunnel between the two gateways.  Then you
 can do whatever you like over it.

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RE: [SLUG] remote printing acorss Internet, possible ??

2000-10-09 Thread tom burkart

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Dave Kempe wrote:

 Doesn't lpr or lprng work over the internet?
 Can't the clients just insert a hostname and then print to that, as long as
 the permissions are ok then it should work right?
   to make it print to a printer across the Internet and behind a
  firewall ??
Remember, you are trying to print over the internet BEHIND a firewall.  If
you desire to get rid of the firewall (effectively) and deal with the NAT
problem then yes it will work.
But seriously, you want that firewall there for a good reason:  To protect
your internal network - that is why it gets more complex. 

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RE: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem

2000-10-09 Thread George Vieira

I doubt it as fetchmail is running as root and can access all mail. I just
don't know exactly what it means by "waiting for listener to respond".

-Original Message-
From: Thom May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:37 PM
To: George Vieira
Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem


Have to say, that sounds most like fetchmail is having trouble
connecting to the Mail Transport (exim, sendmail, whatever) on
the local machine to send the emails to the users. Can you check
if it's running?
-Thom
At some point around Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:37:32 +1000, George Vieira
said:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm not sure what's causing the problem but this is what's happening:
 
 I used to run `fetchmal -q 300` with a .fetchmailrc containing all the
users
 and their required details. This worked fine and then one day stopped.
 
 If I use Outlook to fetch a POP3 directly from the POP3 server all is OK
but
 fetchmail can't retrieve anything on any account.
 
 Here is a verbose output and where it stops at:
 
 fetchmail: 5.5.3 querying pop3.server.com.au (protocol POP3) at Mon, 09
Oct
 2000 15:35:09 +1100 (EST)
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK POP3 pop3.server.com.au v6.50 server ready
 fetchmail: POP3 USER georgev
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK User name accepted, password please
 fetchmail: POP3 PASS *
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK Mailbox open, 1 messages
 fetchmail: POP3 STAT
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 348
 fetchmail: POP3 LAST
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 0
 1 message for georgev at pop3.server.com.au (348 octets).
 fetchmail: POP3 LIST
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK Mailbox scan listing follows
 fetchmail: POP3 1 348
 fetchmail: POP3 .
 fetchmail: POP3 TOP 1 
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK Top of message follows
 reading message 1 of 1 (348 octets)
 
 and just hangs there foreveruntil suddenly...
 
 fetchmail: timeout after 300 seconds waiting for listener to respond.
 fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching from
 pop3.server.com.au
 fetchmail: Query status=7 (ERROR)
 
 any ideas if this is the server or fetchmail? Server is RH5.2.
 Funny thing is that Outlook get mail fine..
 
 thanks,
 George Vieira
 Network Administrator
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RE: [SLUG] remote printing acorss Internet, possible ??

2000-10-09 Thread Umar Goldeli

 Doesn't lpr or lprng work over the internet?
 Can't the clients just insert a hostname and then print to that, as long as
 the permissions are ok then it should work right?

It will - but are the people running the lpd on the printhost happy to
open gaping holes in their firewall? ... in fact are they happy to place
their server in their dmz fullstop? :)

On another note - what is the priority in question - data privacy or
avoiding the possibility of lpd and the printhost being exploited?

A vpn is a Good Thing(tm) - although you have to have two compatible
firewalls (and/or routers) that speak the same "vpn method" - one at each
end - if you want to do it "properly".. it really all depends on what kind
of networks are on each end and how sophisticated and paranoid they are.

If you have a really simple network and not much in the way of network
layering and firewalls etc and don't have ungodly amounts of paranoia,
then it could be as simple as installing "free s/wan" on each box and
pointing them at each other or setting up ipsec between the routers at
each location (this is piss easy with most routers providing you have the
right features).. but I still wouldn't call the network hideously safe if
you can happily point boxes at each other with no silly firewalls or
other "nuisances" in between. :)

//umar.

   we have a scanner that could send directly to an IP address. Is
  it possible
   to make it print to a printer across the Internet and behind a
  firewall ??
  Yes it can be done - However if you want it done safely it is involved.
 
  In brief:
  You have to have a ssl (VPN) tunnel between the two gateways.  Then you
  can do whatever you like over it.



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RE: [SLUG] remote printing acorss Internet, possible ??

2000-10-09 Thread Dave Kempe

  Doesn't lpr or lprng work over the internet?
  Can't the clients just insert a hostname and then print to
 that, as long as
  the permissions are ok then it should work right?
to make it print to a printer across the Internet and behind a
   firewall ??
 Remember, you are trying to print over the internet BEHIND a firewall.  If
 you desire to get rid of the firewall (effectively) and deal with the NAT
 problem then yes it will work.

Security aside how about port forwarding? Is there anything special in the
lpr protocol that prevents that sort of thing working?
What ports does it use anyway?

dave



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RE: [SLUG] remote printing acorss Internet, possible ??

2000-10-09 Thread Umar Goldeli

 Remember, you are trying to print over the internet BEHIND a firewall.  If
 you desire to get rid of the firewall (effectively) and deal with the NAT
 problem then yes it will work.

I missed the beginning of the thread, but *are they* NATting or are they
using real addresses behind the fw?

Another question is - does the person in question have access to
restructure the network fullstop?  :)

//umar.



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RE: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem

2000-10-09 Thread George Vieira

Aha Damn firewall rules...
OK. I got as far as opening up my INPUT and OUPUT rules to default as
"ACCEPT" and it's now working but I don't know what's it trying to connect
to or on..??
It's open for loop back (127.0.0.1) and inbound on port 25 so what else is
missing..?

-Original Message-
From: Thom May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:37 PM
To: George Vieira
Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem


Have to say, that sounds most like fetchmail is having trouble
connecting to the Mail Transport (exim, sendmail, whatever) on
the local machine to send the emails to the users. Can you check
if it's running?
-Thom
At some point around Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:37:32 +1000, George Vieira
said:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm not sure what's causing the problem but this is what's happening:
 
 I used to run `fetchmal -q 300` with a .fetchmailrc containing all the
users
 and their required details. This worked fine and then one day stopped.
 
 If I use Outlook to fetch a POP3 directly from the POP3 server all is OK
but
 fetchmail can't retrieve anything on any account.
 
 Here is a verbose output and where it stops at:
 
 fetchmail: 5.5.3 querying pop3.server.com.au (protocol POP3) at Mon, 09
Oct
 2000 15:35:09 +1100 (EST)
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK POP3 pop3.server.com.au v6.50 server ready
 fetchmail: POP3 USER georgev
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK User name accepted, password please
 fetchmail: POP3 PASS *
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK Mailbox open, 1 messages
 fetchmail: POP3 STAT
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 348
 fetchmail: POP3 LAST
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 0
 1 message for georgev at pop3.server.com.au (348 octets).
 fetchmail: POP3 LIST
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK Mailbox scan listing follows
 fetchmail: POP3 1 348
 fetchmail: POP3 .
 fetchmail: POP3 TOP 1 
 fetchmail: POP3 +OK Top of message follows
 reading message 1 of 1 (348 octets)
 
 and just hangs there foreveruntil suddenly...
 
 fetchmail: timeout after 300 seconds waiting for listener to respond.
 fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching from
 pop3.server.com.au
 fetchmail: Query status=7 (ERROR)
 
 any ideas if this is the server or fetchmail? Server is RH5.2.
 Funny thing is that Outlook get mail fine..
 
 thanks,
 George Vieira
 Network Administrator
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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread marty


at newcastle uni:

spyder - web server 
alinga (local aboriginal name) - enormous sun box (it has the student
   accounts for the entire uni)
jumbuck - database backed web learning tools, anything else homeless 
yakamoto - mail relay 
cc - mail host (just about to be decommissioned)

later
marty

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Talks for SLUG meetings (including this month's)

2000-10-09 Thread James Wilkinson

On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, Angus Lees generated:

cfengine
 for maintaining config files, processes, etc on networks of
 machines - and how to use it and apt-get to do network-wide y2k
 upgrades without pressing a key ;)

This sounds f'n useful.  i'm keen for gus to do talk on this topic.

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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread James Wilkinson

On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, marty generated:

spyder - web server

Is it an alpha machine?

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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread Howard Lowndes

For one of my clients, the Australian Ultralight Federation, the machines
are named after some of the more classic ultralights

scout, stratos, skydart, drifter, kitten, tweetie, jeep, ...

On a more prgamatic base though I use the format

[client abbreviated initials][city location]pc[a sequential number]

thus for client XYZ located in Albury:

xyzaypc1, xyzaypc2,...

and for the same client in Melbourne:

xyzmlpc1, xyzmlpc2,...

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On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Dan Treacy wrote:

 
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RE: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread Howard Lowndes

That's sacrilige, naming a Win box after Tat; one performs, the other
doesn't.

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On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Dave Kempe wrote:

 Tho I gotta admit i slipped a bit and named a win9x machine i was working on
 Tatiana, after the now famous pole vaulter - oh baby!



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Re: [SLUG] Re: Talks for SLUG meetings (including this month's)

2000-10-09 Thread Aaron Binns



I cant do a talk myself.. as I really don't know enough to do one.. which in my
mind is a Very Good Reason (tm) not to get up and make a complete fool of myself
at a SLUG meet. Anyhow I do have some suggestions I'd love to hear as talks and
they come direct from what I've seen on this mailing list over the past 2-3
months:

1) Firewalls
 How to set them up
 Why you need them
 What methods you can use
 What ports should be open for what services and what games?
 Masq and other fun things to do with a firewall

2) VPN
 How to set it up
 How to use it
 Why you might use one
 Benefits and Costs in a personal or business realm

3) SSH
 How it works
 How to use it

4) common partitioning questions
 how partitioning works in Linux
 filesystems and why we use the mounting system
 why have separate filesystems at all? Doesn't it work fine in Windows?
 what the fstab file is and how to read it
 Lilo

5) Samba
 How it works  how it works with Windows
 How to set it up

So if anyone is keen to talk on these topics (as well as what 'Gus suggested..
they sound kewl) rather than telling me to go RTFM here is one vote to having
even simple or common concepts as talks - because I think it gets forgotten that
not everyone is a linux-guru or einstein and I think there might be a few people
out there who would also like some of the basics covered in a talk every so
often.

Surely someone out there knows enough about these topics to hold my attention
for 30 minutes? Right? throw down the challenge

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[SLUG] Driver for D-Link NIC

2000-10-09 Thread Peter Hardy

I have a D-Link DFE-530TX NIC, which is supported by the newer versions of
the via-rhine driver.  The driver included with the 2.2.17 kernel does not
recognise the card.  Right now I'm running 2.4.0-pre9, but would prefer 2.2,
at least until 2.4 becomes stable.  Looking at the webpage, I need version
1.07 or later.  The 2.2.17 kernel ships with 1.01.
I've download the newest version (1.08) of via-rhine.c from
www.scyld.com/pub/network/, but the compile fails with the
following message:

peter@littlegeek:~/src$ gcc -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c
via-rhine.c
via-rhine.c:91: linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
via-rhine.c:112: pci-scan.h: No such file or directory
via-rhine.c:113: kern_compat.h: No such file or directory
via-rhine.c:118: warning: #warning You are using an old kern_compat.h
version.

This is where my meagre knowledge of C dries up.  Am I going to be able to
use this driver with 2.2?

Cheers,
Peter

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RE: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem

2000-10-09 Thread George Vieira

The problem was something to do with localhost (127.0.0.1). For some unknown
reason it didn't take effect or was in the wrong place or something.
I had played around and then it worked.
Basically fetchmail tried to deliver the mail locally on 127.0.0.1 but the
firewall rejected it... hmmm.. good lesson to learn.

thanks for the help to all.

thanks,
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Network Administrator
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:36 AM
Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem


On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, George Vieira wrote:

 Aha Damn firewall rules...
Firewalls are good ;-)

 OK. I got as far as opening up my INPUT and OUPUT rules to default as
 "ACCEPT" and it's now working but I don't know what's it trying to connect
 to or on..??
Try using iplog - this logs icmp, tcp and icmp packets.

 It's open for loop back (127.0.0.1) and inbound on port 25 so what else is
 missing..?
POP is on port 110.  I suspect you need to modify some of the rules...

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Re: [SLUG] Recommend ISP?

2000-10-09 Thread jon

Quoting Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Guys and Gals,

 Can anybody recommend a reliable Sydney based ISP who 
provides an account
 with no download limits.

 Time limits/hourly charges would be acceptable if 
necessary.

I'd suggest you look at First Link Internet Services 
(www.fl.net.au) - I've been with these guys for almost 
5 years and they offer good service.

Jon

 Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] Driver for D-Link NIC

2000-10-09 Thread Adrian van den Dries

I've never had any problem with the card, using the via-rhine module shipped
in the standard kernel. I've never had to compile the module separately,
even with early 2.2 kernels. I just have "alias eth0 via-rhine" in my
modules.conf.

HTH.

Wrote Peter:
 
 This is where my meagre knowledge of C dries up.  Am I going to be able to
 use this driver with 2.2?
 

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Talks for SLUG meetings (including this month's)

2000-10-09 Thread tom burkart

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Aaron Binns wrote:

 1) Firewalls
 2) VPN
 3) SSH
 4) common partitioning questions
 5) Samba
Sounds like you guys have topics for years to come...  :-)
A lot of these can be rather involved - you would be up for lots of 30 min
talks!
I can answer some of those questions - sadly the friday night timeslot
doesn't suit me...

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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-09 Thread marty

 I'm not exactly sure what Alinga is these days, but I don't know that
 I'd call it an "enormous" Sun box (If it's got less than about 30 CPUs
 then it doesn't clasify as enormous)!  However I can still remember being
 very impressed by it many years ago when it was something like a quad
 processor Sun 630MP with about 64 megs of memory!

ahhh... you missed the upgrade then...   ;)

i did have the specs lying around somewhere, but from memory the new setup
had more processors and, more importantly, a gig or so of ram...

  cc - mail host (just about to be decommissioned)
 
 The very imaginative "Computer Cluster", made up of a couble of Vax machines
 (it's good to see they are still just about to decommission it - they have
 been for about 4 years now :)

they have to pull the plug now, they got themselves on the news and in the
papers about it.   ;)

later
marty

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Re: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem

2000-10-09 Thread Stuart Cooper


   The problem was something to do with localhost (127.0.0.1). For some unknown
   reason it didn't take effect or was in the wrong place or something.
   I had played around and then it worked.
   Basically fetchmail tried to deliver the mail locally on 127.0.0.1 but the
   firewall rejected it... hmmm.. good lesson to learn.

here's my favourite localhost story, taken from:
http://www.antionline.com/archives/text/gtmhh/vol2.html


MUHAHAHA TIP: Want to yank someone's chain? Tell him to ftp to
127.0.0.1 and log in using his or her own user name and password for
kewl warez! My ex-husband Keith Henson did that to the Church of
Scientology. The COGs ftp-ed to 127.0.0.1 and discovered all their
copyrighted scriptures. They assumed this was on Keith's computer, not
theirs. They were *so* sure he had their scriptures that they took him
to court. The judge, when he realized they were simply looping back to
their own computer, literally laughed them out of court.

For a hilarious transcript or audio tape of this infamous court
session, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Keith's email
address.  My hat is off to a superb hacker!


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[SLUG] Finding a Yopy

2000-10-09 Thread Craige McWhirter

I've been hunting where to find a Yopy in Aus. Samsung aren't bringing it 
in yet so I was hoping someone had an idea?

For the curious: 
http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/

Cheers,
  Craige.


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Re: [SLUG] fetchmail POP3 problem

2000-10-09 Thread enterfornone

there are a bunch of domains (eg www.porn.org)
that resolve to 127.0.0.1 to make this joke funnier :)

On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:59:16PM -, Stuart Cooper wrote:
 
 here's my favourite localhost story, taken from:
 http://www.antionline.com/archives/text/gtmhh/vol2.html
 
 
 MUHAHAHA TIP: Want to yank someone's chain? Tell him to ftp to
 127.0.0.1 and log in using his or her own user name and password for
 kewl warez! My ex-husband Keith Henson did that to the Church of
 Scientology. The COGs ftp-ed to 127.0.0.1 and discovered all their
 copyrighted scriptures. They assumed this was on Keith's computer, not
 theirs. They were *so* sure he had their scriptures that they took him
 to court. The judge, when he realized they were simply looping back to
 their own computer, literally laughed them out of court.
 
 For a hilarious transcript or audio tape of this infamous court
 session, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Keith's email
 address.  My hat is off to a superb hacker!
 
 
 Stuart.
 
 
 
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[SLUG] Viewing output of mutiple tty's via telnet

2000-10-09 Thread Doug Stalker


We have several unix server here at work run several processes in
different tty's with different logins. The application output is sent to
the tty the process is running in. When accessing the systems locally
it's an easy matter to switch between teh different screens with
ctl-alt-F*, but is there any equivilent that can be used over telnet?

 - Doug

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Talks for SLUG meetings (including this month's)

2000-10-09 Thread Michael Lake

Angus Lees wrote:
 mod_perl
  how to do any server side web stuff, the Right Way.
  (or .. "what php will never do" ;)
 anyone actually interested in any of them?

Given that in a few weeks I will be contracting a developer
to implement a web-front to a database prob using
PHP/mySQL/Apache I'd be interested in the mod_perl stuff.

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Driver for D-Link NIC

2000-10-09 Thread John Ferlito

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Adrian van den Dries wrote:
 I've never had any problem with the card, using the via-rhine module shipped
 in the standard kernel. I've never had to compile the module separately,
 even with early 2.2 kernels. I just have "alias eth0 via-rhine" in my
 modules.conf.

The 100M versions of the card need the newer driver which only
ships with 2.4. It may ship with some distributions if the distro has
specifically compiled the right version in.

 
 HTH.
 
 Wrote Peter:
  
  This is where my meagre knowledge of C dries up.  Am I going to be able to
  use this driver with 2.2?
  
 
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Re: [SLUG] Driver for D-Link NIC

2000-10-09 Thread Adrian van den Dries

Wrote John:
 
   The 100M versions of the card need the newer driver which only
 ships with 2.4. It may ship with some distributions if the distro has
 specifically compiled the right version in.
 

Perhaps that explains the 'poor' performance of that card. It's a 10/100 but
I guess it's only being driven at 10Mbps. Is this correct, because as I
said, I've never had 'trouble'? Peter, is it the standard kernel module that
isn't recognizing your card? How's your modules.conf?

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Re: [SLUG] Firewalling/Masqing (Was: Re: Talks for SLUG meetings)

2000-10-09 Thread Peter Hardy

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 08:44:38AM +1000, Aaron Binns wrote:
 1) Firewalls
  How to set them up
  Why you need them
  What methods you can use
  What ports should be open for what services and what games?
  Masq and other fun things to do with a firewall

Having just setup a masquerading firewall, I think I'd be prepared to
contribute to such a talk.  I don't know if I could hold your (or most
SLUGger's attentions) for 30 minutes, just offer my newbie-ish perspective.

 So if anyone is keen to talk on these topics (as well as what 'Gus suggested..
 they sound kewl) rather than telling me to go RTFM here is one vote to having
 even simple or common concepts as talks - because I think it gets forgotten that
 not everyone is a linux-guru or einstein and I think there might be a few people
 out there who would also like some of the basics covered in a talk every so
 often.
Agreed.  
 
 Surely someone out there knows enough about these topics to hold my attention
 for 30 minutes? Right? throw down the challenge

 
 Aaron
 
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[SLUG] default run level - SuSE 7.0

2000-10-09 Thread DaZZa

OK, I know this was done recently, and the solution supplied worked up to
SuSE 6.4, but...

I can;t seem to apply it to SuSE 7.0.

So - does anyone know how to configure it so that SuSEconfig doesn't reset
the default run level to 3 every time you make a system change?

Note - only version 7 - the fix previously stated works fine for 6.3.

Thanks.

DaZZa



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[SLUG] Irix media

2000-10-09 Thread David Zverina

I've just tried setting up linux on my old SGI indy. Unfortunately in the
process I've managed to stuff up somewhat badly my existing irix partition.
To compound the matter, the current version of linux for sgi needs irix to
bootstrap the set up. To compound the matter further, I have misplaced my
irix 5.3 CDs. I've called SGI but they want $192.50 to replace them. This
seems somewhat steep so I thought I would ask the all knowing population of
SLUG if they can recommend a cheaper source for the replacement media.

Thanks,

Dave.

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RE: [SLUG] Irix media

2000-10-09 Thread Jill Rowling

Sorry to be a pain, but I think you'll find it's $2.50 for the media and
$190 for the IRIX software license.

It might be cheaper to look for those disks...

That's probably why SGI are selling systems with Linux instead!
(I got a similar answer from Sun regarding their OS disks).

Regards,

Jill.
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I have misplaced my
irix 5.3 CDs. I've called SGI but they want $192.50 to replace them. This
seems somewhat steep so I thought I would ask the all knowing population of
SLUG if they can recommend a cheaper source for the replacement media.


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