Re: [SLUG] Wacky Linux Game and XFree4 GLX...

[johna]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:35:52PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> Anand Kumria said something along the lines of:

...
 
> > Bzflag. Phear my sk33lz.
> 
> You are so asking for a SLUG "All on Anand" match. Somehow, I think you'd
> enjoy that though. ;)
> 
Arghh !!! bzflag.

I've been trying to get that going on a 386 netstation. Maybe it just 
don't have enough grunt.

I was trying to get it to run using swapping over the net. But it kept
crashing or killing the process. It was a kernel problem. I thought
that the linux kernel did not have problems. But there you go.

So I compiled a pre release 2.4.0 kernel with a further add on. Things
seemed to work.

It loaded in those .rgb files and sat there forever processing them.
Wonder whats going on ?

Finally, it starts up.  But after trying to connect to the server, I get
an "illegal instruction" error !

Next, try to interpret the source code so I can add a -g (debug)
option to the makefile. The makefile is cryptic, and I don't 
understand c++.

Groan. Maybe one of these years I'll get it working. Hope I don't
find out the 386 just don't have enough grunt. :)


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[SLUG] Routing Book

[Alister Waller]

Hi,

Can anyway suggest a good Book on configuring Linux as a router. I am still
having some problems and think it might be time to read up and maybe get a
grasp on what should be happening rather than what is happening.

ideally something that deals with many scenarious including dialup, LAN and
WAN.


Also a good Book on Linux in generaladmin etc .I use Redhat.


regards


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[SLUG] Re: Debian Automated Installs

[Angus Lees]

\begin{John Ferlito}
>   Has anyone played with automating debian installs? So far I've
> come across fai and replicator which both seem fairly young packages so
> don't really work seamlessly. What I'm really after is something similar
> to redhats kickstart disk. Basically put a disk in the drive debian gets
> installed with a package list i specify and doesn't ask any questions
> and then I just have to config it up.

i got by with hacking the boot-floppies package to use a few different
defaults. it wasn't too hard, but i was aiming for a "just keep
pressing return" install, not a fully automated one.

including a different package list is fairly straightforward, actually
removing the dinstall prompting will need a little more hacking.

preventing package postinsts from prompting should be a little easier
now that most of them use debconf. you just have to seed the debconf
database with your (non-default) answers and/or use the
"noninteractive" frontend.  see the debconf docs and the (perl)
source.

there will still be a few packages that prompt - you'll have to just
cope with that, or hack their scripts to avoid the prompt and
repackage them (actually not that hard, just irritating)


boot-floppies for woody will include a non-interactive install
(hopefully) - you may want to join debian-boot and see what they come
up with


alternatively, go the fai approach (iirc), and avoid the boot floppies
altogether. its not hard to hack up a script that does the same job as
the install process and then run it off an nfsroot or something. (i
basically did that by hand for my diskless multia install (using
slink) - see http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~gusl/multia-howto/)

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[SLUG] DOS file recovery

[johna]

Are there any DOS file recovery programs in linux, things which might
run vaguely similar to norton utilities ?

Thanks,

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[SLUG] rprint for equinox ESL-16.

[George Vieira]

Hi y'all,

Here I go again. I am trying to get this Equinox terminal server to do
remote printing using the rprint command.
I am slightly cheating (as I am using the SCO binaries to run them as I
can't compile the source) and get the following error.
I guess it's trying to get access to the port for reception. But this device
doesn't exist on Linux.

Is there a symbolic link I can do to the right /dev/### device...???

[root@penguin rprint]# Equinox Terminal server configuration set up. VER
1.14

libsocket: open(/dev/socksys) failure: No such file or directory
libsocket: open(/dev/socksys) failure: No such file or directory
libsocket: open(/dev/socksys) failure: No such file or directory
libsocket: open(/dev/socksys) failure: No such file or directory
gethostbyname: Connection refused
gethostbyname failure from pid 1661

OR, Is there any rprint for linux available..

thanks,
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Re: [SLUG] Oracle through a firewall

[tom burkart]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Kevin Saenz wrote:

> Hi has anyone had any joy allowing oracle plus/sql through a firewall?
Do you really want to do this?  Personally, I would have thought the
security risk is too high.

> While on the topic of firewall has anyone been using iptables?
> What are the benefits moving from ipchains to iptables?
There is no iptables for kernels < 2.4.  As of 2.4 this is what you need
to use INSTEAD of ipchains.

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RE: [SLUG] Authentication Question

[tom burkart]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, George Vieira wrote:

> yellow pages `yppasswd` is one way.. when the user changes their password
> then all servers update the unix password... (not samba password though)..
Hold on, guys, what's wrong with LDAP?

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RE: [SLUG] Re: CPU suspend mode in Linux?

[John Wiltshire]

From: Angus Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>\begin{John Wiltshire}
>> NT4sp3+, Win2000 and Linux all execute a HLT instruction 
>when idle on a
>> single CPU machine.  I'm pretty sure there are issues with 
>SMP machines that
>> means you have to busy idle.
>
>if you have the APM stuff enabled, you also get a "make IDLE calls
>when idle" option. i presume that goes even further than a HLT.

Yes - I checked out the source (arch/i386/kernel/process.c):

Will __asm__("hlt") on UP and SMP machines when idle (lines 98 and 122) and
ACPI idle is not enabled.

If you have APM/ACPI stuff enabled, it calls the BIOS routine to sleep the
CPU until an interrupt is received.

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RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[George Vieira]

Great, thanks heaps. That was the real answer I was looking for...

thanks to all others too..

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-Original Message-
From: tom burkart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:12 PM
To: George Vieira
Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.


On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, George Vieira wrote:

> I removed the entry and it starts up real damn quick.. weird that it MUST
> resolve these addresses. Must find a way to ignore them..
Your real fix is in /etc/nsswitch.conf
Here you set several lines to "files [NOTFOUND=return]" - especially the
hosts (DNS lookup) line...

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RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[tom burkart]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, George Vieira wrote:

> I removed the entry and it starts up real damn quick.. weird that it MUST
> resolve these addresses. Must find a way to ignore them..
Your real fix is in /etc/nsswitch.conf
Here you set several lines to "files [NOTFOUND=return]" - especially the
hosts (DNS lookup) line...

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Re: [SLUG] Setting window manager in Debian.

[Mark Pearson]

Rodos wrote:

>
> I then installed the sawmill window manager, also from a deb via apt-get.
>

Make sure you have both sawmill and sawmill-gnome the latter allows
configuration via the gnome control centre

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[SLUG] RE: Video Hardware Problems - SOLVED!

[Bill]

To Dave and any others who reply,

Thanks for the help,


Bill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>In my experience, 1 long and a few short is loose video card or RAM. Check
>that the ram or the video card is ok?

>dave (David Kempe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

[SLUG] Video hardware Problems

[Bill]

Hi Guys and Gals,

A couple of days ago I installed Suse 7.0 (October 2000 Linux Format mag
CD). During installation I could not choose my monitor (NEC Multisync 3D)
as it was not listed. Chose another NEC monitor instead, and reset
Resolution and Colour depth to appropriate 800x600, 256 colours). As I was
downloading from 'Net on other PC at the time I failed to pay full
attention and missed resetting Horizontal/Vertical refresh rates to correct
settings.As Suse is now Plug and Pray I wasn't given the option of choosing
my graphics card.

As result got very bad screen on boot. Shutdown PC, reinstalled Suse with
correct video details. On boot sometimes screen would display (regardless
of OS - ie Win95, Mandrake etc), other times not. Finally no screen
display, not even Bios boot info.

Sometimes got one long beep on boot.

Checked Monitor on other PC - worked no problems.

Examined graphics card ( Viper 330 8mb AGP2). Appeared to be some burning
(?) on back of card on  2 chips - may be just burned dust.

Neither HDD or Floppy (tried floppy boot) starts up, so assumed problem was
damaged graphics card not recognised during boot.

Installed a NEW card ( Eagle TNT2 M64 32 mb AGP2). Still no data on screen
- now get 1 long and  several short beeps, hard drive operates and appears
to go
through boot process (tried floppy boot of Mandrake 7.0 - which operated OK
before
problems with Suse).

Motherboard is Gigabyte GA-686LX with PII 233 cpu. Manual states that there
is only one beep (Post Beep)code in the Bios - 1 long and 2 short beeps-
video error has occurred and BIOS cannot initialise screen.

Any suggestions appreciated. I don't want to try the Viper or Eagle
graphics cards in my other PC for fear of damaging it if there is/are
problems with the card(s).

Other option is a visit to a PC Tech - last resort.

Bill
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[SLUG] Re: Setting window manager in Debian.

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Rodos}
> Also the machine boots into xdm which I dislike but I can't find where/how
> it is getting started.

if xdm is installed, it gets started from /etc/init.d/xdm like any
other service.

if you don't want it, remove it (or install one of the alternatives,
like gdm)

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[SLUG] Re: CPU suspend mode in Linux?

[Angus Lees]

\begin{John Wiltshire}
> NT4sp3+, Win2000 and Linux all execute a HLT instruction when idle on a
> single CPU machine.  I'm pretty sure there are issues with SMP machines that
> means you have to busy idle.

if you have the APM stuff enabled, you also get a "make IDLE calls
when idle" option. i presume that goes even further than a HLT.

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[SLUG] Debian Automated Installs

[John Ferlito]

Has anyone played with automating debian installs? So far I've
come across fai and replicator which both seem fairly young packages so
don't really work seamlessly. What I'm really after is something similar
to redhats kickstart disk. Basically put a disk in the drive debian gets
installed with a package list i specify and doesn't ask any questions
and then I just have to config it up.



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[SLUG] Setting window manager in Debian.

[Rodos]

I am trying to change my window manager in debian, without success.

I installed gnome from the helixcode deb via apt-get. The default window
manager is window maker. 

I then installed the sawmill window manager, also from a deb via apt-get.

I now have an option under window managers to change to sawmill. However
it only changes it for the current session and there are no menus/icons
available.

I have tried doing a update-alternatives --config x-window-manager but as
soon as I change it off window maker the X session never starts up.

Also the machine boots into xdm which I dislike but I can't find where/how
it is getting started.

Any help is appreciated.

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RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[George Vieira]

The problem is this site is bit and there is also going to be a remote site
logging in too.. I don't want to sit there entering host names for simple
workstation activity. Fine if it's a known server but not worried about
workstations.

thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: David Kempe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:58 AM
To: George Vieira
Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.


I've found that this whole problem is a local name lookup problem.
The file /etc/hosts stores things that can be quickly looked up.
I've found by adding lines in here that say what the current hostname is of
the machine and the correct ip address(s) - all of them, then it makes it
alot faster.
The DNS client will probably look at /etc/hosts first then try the server
and setting in /etc/resolv.conf - unless you have changed the order -
forgotten where.

dave

>
> I removed the entry and it starts up real damn quick.. weird that it MUST
> resolve these addresses. Must find a way to ignore them..
>


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Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[Jamie Honan]

[MS buying a stake in Corel, and what it means, esp. viz. .net]

I saw a recent discussion of this on slashdot recently.
Contained there are a number of interesting posts, basically along the lines
of 'looking at chicken entrails'.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/1454212&mode=thread

An interesting view of some of the things purported to be in .net,
(also got this from slashdot) is at

http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/research/mercury/information/dotnet/mercury_and_dotnet.html

This is from the mercury language group at Monash uni. (Mercury is
a functional language.)

Also, I found this, might be of use:

http://www.objectwatch.com/issue_29.htm

My take?

Well, sometimes the chicken entrails tell me it looks like an attack on
Sun's Java. Perhaps a reaction to Star Office (source recently released
as GPL)? Star Office does an excellent job of handling those legacy
spreadsheet and document formats.

Or maybe it's an attempt to project the idea that
MS has some fantastic new technology, so stop looking at that Linux
stuff, look over here at us.

The cross platform server systems must be a worry to MS. The top end
servers doesn't look good for MS. And game consoles, well that's
a worry too. Hence Xbox.

Where does the future lie? The crystal ball fogs up.

One little device, but still too expensive, is intriguing.

http://www.egnite.de/ethernut/

I'm convinced we will see a plethora of 'tiny devices',
interconnected.

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RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[David Kempe]

I've found that this whole problem is a local name lookup problem.
The file /etc/hosts stores things that can be quickly looked up.
I've found by adding lines in here that say what the current hostname is of
the machine and the correct ip address(s) - all of them, then it makes it
alot faster.
The DNS client will probably look at /etc/hosts first then try the server
and setting in /etc/resolv.conf - unless you have changed the order -
forgotten where.

dave

>
> I removed the entry and it starts up real damn quick.. weird that it MUST
> resolve these addresses. Must find a way to ignore them..
>



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[SLUG] Oracle through a firewall

[Kevin Saenz]

Hi has anyone had any joy allowing oracle plus/sql through a firewall?
Does anyone know what ports TNS use when sending and recieving
information

While on the topic of firewall has anyone been using iptables?
What are the benefits moving from ipchains to iptables?


Thanks

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RE: [SLUG] CPU suspend mode in Linux?

[John Wiltshire]

From: Arunava Sen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>Yesterday, a friend of mine mentioned that he is using some win98
>program that "cools" his cpu and that it drops his temperature by 6
>degrees when idle. I assume it issues a 'hlt' instruction or something
>similar. The interesting thing is that the program's help file said
>something like "this program is not needed on winNT and many 
>non-windows
>OSs because they have this functionality built into them".
>
>To me it sounds like Linux might have it buils into the kernel. How can
>I verify this (short of rummaging through the kernel source) and does
>anyone know for certain?

NT4sp3+, Win2000 and Linux all execute a HLT instruction when idle on a
single CPU machine.  I'm pretty sure there are issues with SMP machines that
means you have to busy idle.

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RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[George Vieira]

What I meant by connections is that there will be no communication between
this server and any other servers, eg.. no gateway, no dns server, nothing..
it's a stand alone server with an IPchains rule to not accept any
connections except the workstations allowed.

I opened this up for testing and it's not IPCHAINS (obviously coz I
eventually connect OK after 30 seconds or so).

I do telnet with the IP address, it's the linux box that's trying to resolve
my IP address connection before giving me my login screen.

As I mentioned before, I removed the /etc/resolv.conf file and it's
lightening fast.

It's quite possible that it's syslogd trying to resolve as it does say it in
the man pages and it tries 10 times before spitting the dummy.

thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: James Wilkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:59 AM
To: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.


On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, George Vieira generated:

>There is no /etc/resolv.conf as it's an isolated database server and has no
>connections to any other server..

How can you telnet to it if it has no connections?

>Is there a way to get the TCP wrapper or whatever it is that's trying to
>resolve these machines to ignore resolving and just allow the connection
>quickly..?

telnet with the IP address instead of the machine name and it won't have
to resolve the name.  Otherwise make sure your nameservers are listed
correctly in /etc/resolv.conf and they are working and accepting
connections from this database server.

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[SLUG] CPU suspend mode in Linux?

[Arunava Sen]

Hello,

Yesterday, a friend of mine mentioned that he is using some win98
program that "cools" his cpu and that it drops his temperature by 6
degrees when idle. I assume it issues a 'hlt' instruction or something
similar. The interesting thing is that the program's help file said
something like "this program is not needed on winNT and many non-windows
OSs because they have this functionality built into them".

To me it sounds like Linux might have it buils into the kernel. How can
I verify this (short of rummaging through the kernel source) and does
anyone know for certain?

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[James Wilkinson]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, George Vieira generated:

>There is no /etc/resolv.conf as it's an isolated database server and has no
>connections to any other server..

How can you telnet to it if it has no connections?

>Is there a way to get the TCP wrapper or whatever it is that's trying to
>resolve these machines to ignore resolving and just allow the connection
>quickly..?

telnet with the IP address instead of the machine name and it won't have
to resolve the name.  Otherwise make sure your nameservers are listed
correctly in /etc/resolv.conf and they are working and accepting
connections from this database server.

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Re: [SLUG] POP3 authentication on sendmail

[John Clarke]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:32:54AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > >Our company is now of the ORB/RBL list and would like to stay there.
> > >One requirment we do have is to use our mail server while OS using
> > >ISP assigned IP addresses.
> > >
> > >I have heard about doing pop3 authentication on sending mail!!

Have a look at:

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html#authrelay

and

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/chk-rcpt5.html#POP

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Authentication Question

[Gonzalo Servat]

Well, if I sync samba with the unix password database then this could
work... I'll look into it.

Thanks a lot.

Regards,

Gonzalo.

George Vieira wrote:
> 
> yellow pages `yppasswd` is one way.. when the user changes their password
> then all servers update the unix password... (not samba password though)..
> 
> thanks,
> George Vieira
> Network Administrator
> http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalo Servat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: SLUG Mailing List
> Subject: [SLUG] Authentication Question
> 
> Hi Slugers.
> 
> I have a question regarding authentication with Samba and Radius.
> 
> I have a setup of 3 computers. One of the machines will be the main
> firewall (which will also handle PPP dialin using a 8 port serial card),
> the Second machine will be the main Password/File Server (using SAMBA)
> and the third machine will be the main proxy/e-mail server. The firewall
> machine will have an external IP address as well as internal and the
> other 2 machines will only have internal IP's.
> 
> I was hoping I could get some suggestions as to how I can go about
> sharing the passwd/shadow file across the network (in a secure way) so
> that if the File Server has all the employee's added to it and so that
> the e-mail server will be able to authenticate users from the main File
> Server. Also the firewall will be taking care of the PPP dialin so this
> machine will also have to authenticate users from the main File Server
> machine.
> 
> How could I go about doing this? I thought maybe NIS will do the trick
> but I have been told Samba and Radius don't support NIS. Another (rather
> un-secure) way of doing it is to configure scp on the 2 client machines
> (firewall and proxy/e-mail server) to download the passwd and shadow
> files from the file server every few minutes but that's not secure and
> surely there has got to be a better way of doing it.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gonzalo.
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RE: [SLUG] POP3 authentication on sendmail

[grant]

> >
> >Our company is now of the ORB/RBL list and would like to stay there.
> >One requirment we do have is to use our mail server while OS using
> >ISP assigned IP addresses.
> >
> >I have heard about doing pop3 authentication on sending mail!!
> >
> >I have found
> >http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html
> >
> >which has a solution. Is this the best bethod? Are there any other
> >suggestions or experiences?
>
> Just use the ISP's local SMTP server to send mail.  Your mail
> program (MUA)
> will allow you to configure a different SMTP host (MTA) to
> POP3 host (MDA).
>

Because of the lack of a way out of Xchnge(or percieved "too hard I'll do it
later")
, they use windoze Outloook to get and send their mail.
They travel from city to city in asia and often use
IBM.net or other providers that you are lucky to get connected let alone
findout every single one's smtp server.

They would like a solution that means that they don't have to change their
mail server settings.

How does the SSL authenication in a connection work?
on a password, key, passphrase ?
how does this apply in a SSL mail connection?

Regards

Grant Street
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RE: [SLUG] Authentication Question

[George Vieira]

yellow pages `yppasswd` is one way.. when the user changes their password
then all servers update the unix password... (not samba password though)..

thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: Gonzalo Servat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:20 AM
To: SLUG Mailing List
Subject: [SLUG] Authentication Question


Hi Slugers.

I have a question regarding authentication with Samba and Radius.

I have a setup of 3 computers. One of the machines will be the main
firewall (which will also handle PPP dialin using a 8 port serial card),
the Second machine will be the main Password/File Server (using SAMBA)
and the third machine will be the main proxy/e-mail server. The firewall
machine will have an external IP address as well as internal and the
other 2 machines will only have internal IP's.

I was hoping I could get some suggestions as to how I can go about
sharing the passwd/shadow file across the network (in a secure way) so
that if the File Server has all the employee's added to it and so that
the e-mail server will be able to authenticate users from the main File
Server. Also the firewall will be taking care of the PPP dialin so this
machine will also have to authenticate users from the main File Server
machine.

How could I go about doing this? I thought maybe NIS will do the trick
but I have been told Samba and Radius don't support NIS. Another (rather
un-secure) way of doing it is to configure scp on the 2 client machines
(firewall and proxy/e-mail server) to download the passwd and shadow
files from the file server every few minutes but that's not secure and
surely there has got to be a better way of doing it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

Gonzalo.
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RE: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[George Vieira]

No the problem is not a allow/deny problem as it eventually lets you in but
takes forever.

I just found out one of the other guys had put an entry in the
/etc/resolv.conf which had a 10.10.0.X address for our DNS server in it
which may have caused the delay as nslookup doesn't like 10.x.x.x or
172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x addresses to resolve from, when I used an internet
valid IP it works well from my experience..

I removed the entry and it starts up real damn quick.. weird that it MUST
resolve these addresses. Must find a way to ignore them..

thanks anyway... it works for now.

thanks,
George Vieira
Network Administrator
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-Original Message-
From: Paul Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:19 AM
To: George Vieira
Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group in Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.


George Vieira wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know this is an oldie question but my initial telnet connections take
> forever to connect. It connects and then you wait for a minute before
> getting the logon message.
> 
> I know the oldie answer was to remove `named` as the server was trying to
> resolve the IP address but named isn't running on this system.
> Also adding the names to the host file works but isn't the answer for me
as
> this server is going to a site which will have remote WAN connections.
> 
When you say adding the names to the host file do you mean just
/etc/host or the whole set including hosts.allow and hosts.deny. Surely
you'd just blank out hosts.deny and put ALL: ALL (or just in.telnetd:
ALL) into hosts.allow? Then it allows everyone to connect to telnet.
If this is what you meant by adding the names to the host file then
ignore this, but I had this problem once before and this solved it.

Come to think of it. Another problem I had was with an old version of
Slackware where it seemed to have some sort of corruption in the telnet
daemon. It would also do the same thing as if you had a dodgy
hosts.allow/.deny set but it would actually zombie the telnet processes
and you could not get rid of them with any kill option. You actually had
to reboot the machine to get it to connect again. This was from Slakware
3.4(or 3 if there was one.. old one anyway). A quick download and
install of an updated version of the daemon and things were fine.

Paul

> There is no /etc/resolv.conf as it's an isolated database server and has
no
> connections to any other server..
> 
> Is there a way to get the TCP wrapper or whatever it is that's trying to
> resolve these machines to ignore resolving and just allow the connection
> quickly..?
> 
> thanks,
> George Vieira
> Network Administrator
> http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au
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RE: [SLUG] New RH 7.0 Respin ISO images

[Jill Rowling]

I believe it was a bug fix to get around an embarrassing error.
I saw a reference to it on slashdot about a week ago (
http://www.slashdot.org/ )
Does the RedHat site not have anything about it?

- Jill.

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-Original Message-
From: Matt Hyne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2000 11:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] New RH 7.0 Respin ISO images



Can anyone tell me what the RedHat 7.0 RESPIN ISO images have that the old
ones didn't ?

ie: 7.0-i386-respin-disc1.iso, 7.0-i386-respin-disc2.iso


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[SLUG] Authentication Question

[Gonzalo Servat]

Hi Slugers.

I have a question regarding authentication with Samba and Radius.

I have a setup of 3 computers. One of the machines will be the main
firewall (which will also handle PPP dialin using a 8 port serial card),
the Second machine will be the main Password/File Server (using SAMBA)
and the third machine will be the main proxy/e-mail server. The firewall
machine will have an external IP address as well as internal and the
other 2 machines will only have internal IP's.

I was hoping I could get some suggestions as to how I can go about
sharing the passwd/shadow file across the network (in a secure way) so
that if the File Server has all the employee's added to it and so that
the e-mail server will be able to authenticate users from the main File
Server. Also the firewall will be taking care of the PPP dialin so this
machine will also have to authenticate users from the main File Server
machine.

How could I go about doing this? I thought maybe NIS will do the trick
but I have been told Samba and Radius don't support NIS. Another (rather
un-secure) way of doing it is to configure scp on the 2 client machines
(firewall and proxy/e-mail server) to download the passwd and shadow
files from the file server every few minutes but that's not secure and
surely there has got to be a better way of doing it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

Gonzalo.
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Re: [SLUG] Netscape error

[Michael Lake]

> At some point around Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:13:35 +1100, Jason Stokes said:
> > Heracles wrote:
> > > >From time to time, usually after a few hours on the net, Netscape
> > > will crash and autoclose with the only error given being "bus
> > > error". 
> >
> > Yes, Netscape leaks memory like a sieve. Even while idle it seems to do
> > it.  It also can create dangling pointers.  If that happens it'll crash
> > with a "bus error", which is actually a memory error.

I get exactly that error also when using Netscape 4.7 on
Jill's Athlon runing SUSE 6.3 at home. I ended up shuting
down Netscape if I went for a coffee. Now we know its not
SUSE :-) 

Mike

Michael Lake
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[SLUG] New RH 7.0 Respin ISO images

[Matt Hyne]

Can anyone tell me what the RedHat 7.0 RESPIN ISO images have that the old ones didn't 
?

ie: 7.0-i386-respin-disc1.iso, 7.0-i386-respin-disc2.iso

Further, there now also seems to be a file called 7.0-i386-upgrade.iso.  
Anyone know what the hell this is ??

As usual, there are no docs to go with them.

Matt



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Re: [SLUG] Netscape error

[Ken Yap]

>Here's a queston: why is "From" always quoted with a > if it appears on
>the first column of an email message?  Can't SMTP servers distinguish
>between "From" in the header section and "From" in the body of the
>message?

It's to prevent people from inserting fake header lines in the body of
the email that might fool mail readers into thinking that a new mail
message has started. This would allow people to inject spurious messages
into a recipient's mailbox.  Mail items are not generally (before
Content-Length, and that is not universally liked) length delimited so
the only clue that a mail reader has that a new item has started are the
header lines.  Admittedly the check is very crude, it just looks for
From and doesn't see if the rest of the line is a legal mbox From
line which a smarter mail reader could examine.


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Re: [SLUG] CLID software ?

[Grahame Kelly]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Rodos wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Grahame Kelly wrote:
> > I use XCallerID to retrieve the CallerID from my modem, look up a MySQL DB,
> Grahame, what modem do you use. Not to many support CallerID.


I use a Dynalink V1456VQE (~$100) and the local distributor in
E.Chatswood is a really good support group (I simply got an exchange-
no-questions-asked on a intermittant modem).

Cheers, Grahame


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Re: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[Paul Robinson]

George Vieira wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know this is an oldie question but my initial telnet connections take
> forever to connect. It connects and then you wait for a minute before
> getting the logon message.
> 
> I know the oldie answer was to remove `named` as the server was trying to
> resolve the IP address but named isn't running on this system.
> Also adding the names to the host file works but isn't the answer for me as
> this server is going to a site which will have remote WAN connections.
> 
When you say adding the names to the host file do you mean just
/etc/host or the whole set including hosts.allow and hosts.deny. Surely
you'd just blank out hosts.deny and put ALL: ALL (or just in.telnetd:
ALL) into hosts.allow? Then it allows everyone to connect to telnet.
If this is what you meant by adding the names to the host file then
ignore this, but I had this problem once before and this solved it.

Come to think of it. Another problem I had was with an old version of
Slackware where it seemed to have some sort of corruption in the telnet
daemon. It would also do the same thing as if you had a dodgy
hosts.allow/.deny set but it would actually zombie the telnet processes
and you could not get rid of them with any kill option. You actually had
to reboot the machine to get it to connect again. This was from Slakware
3.4(or 3 if there was one.. old one anyway). A quick download and
install of an updated version of the daemon and things were fine.

Paul

> There is no /etc/resolv.conf as it's an isolated database server and has no
> connections to any other server..
> 
> Is there a way to get the TCP wrapper or whatever it is that's trying to
> resolve these machines to ignore resolving and just allow the connection
> quickly..?
> 
> thanks,
> George Vieira
> Network Administrator
> http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au
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RE: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[Bernhard Luder]

The way I see this is, that MS is testing the GPL water with a relatively
small investment (at least small for MS). Naturally they will want to get MS
products running on Linux.

Even though that will get people upset I think it is a good thing, because
we then get an opportunity to offer Linux as a desktop operating system
alternative to WIN, because most people do not give a hoot about what OS
they are running as long as it has a GUI and Linux has no shortage of that
(as we all know) and as along as it runs the generally accepted Office
packages, which (unfortunately) are mostly WORD and EXCEL. I also would
prefer them running none-MS products. However one needs be realistic, that
most decision makers in businesses are affected by the MS hipe and therefore
perceive MS to be the "better" solution and often choose MS products over
others against the better advise of their computing specialists, even though
other (incl. desktop) applications are better in relality.

However on the other hand it gives us the opportunity to directly compare MS
with other products on the same platform. I see that as a advantage as long
as those other products actually are able to compete in function and
reliablity.

So my suggestion to the other Linux office suite developers (if there's any
listening) is: Pullup your socks. Now is the time to market your product.
And it needs to be marketed as a total solution including the OS (Linux) and
it needs to be able to easily handle (open and close and create MS .doc and
.xls files). Pricewise there is a lot of scope for a good package, because
you will be competing with MS not only with the other Linux office suite
developers.

Bernhard Luder
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P.S. Now shoot me down in flames.

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Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2000 07:59
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer


Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution
Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to
"ease itself into the open source community" according
this article by the National Post Online

http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.htm
l


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Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[kevin]

Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and
> try to distribute its own "no source code" version.
If this were the case, then perhaps a revision of the kernel license
may be needed?

I can see benifits of having some MS apps ported to linux for desktop
use
but the business model MS operates under a totally closed one, so that 
open source as we know it might well be threatened if any challenge were
made on the GPL.

I would think MS needs to tread very carefully in light of DoJ concerns
regarding their business practices.

Kind regards

Kevin Waterson


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[SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[George Vieira]

Hi all,

I know this is an oldie question but my initial telnet connections take
forever to connect. It connects and then you wait for a minute before
getting the logon message.

I know the oldie answer was to remove `named` as the server was trying to
resolve the IP address but named isn't running on this system.
Also adding the names to the host file works but isn't the answer for me as
this server is going to a site which will have remote WAN connections.

There is no /etc/resolv.conf as it's an isolated database server and has no
connections to any other server..

Is there a way to get the TCP wrapper or whatever it is that's trying to
resolve these machines to ignore resolving and just allow the connection
quickly..?

thanks,
George Vieira
Network Administrator
http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au
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Re: [SLUG] CLID software ?

[Rodos]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Grahame Kelly wrote:

> I use XCallerID to retrieve the CallerID from my modem, look up a MySQL DB,

Grahame, what modem do you use. Not to many support CallerID.

Rodos

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Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[David Fisher]

> My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and
> try to distribute its own "no source code" version.
> 
> -- 
> Howard.

...and thus undermine the whole basis of the open source free software 
movement.

Make no mistake, it is the GPL that poses the greatest threat to 
Microsoft and its business model, not Linux per se.

They will stop at nothing to try to pervert it.

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Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[Paul Robinson]

A "no source code" version of linux or of the ".NET" applications?
Doesn't products like Vmware already do this? All I've ever seen on the
Vmware site is binaries.
Correct me if I'm wrong (cos I've never actually read the GPL, just got
the general jist of it) doesn't the GPL only apply if you have used
source code from a GPL program in your own program that  you are then
obliged to release your program under the GPL as well? 

So long as VMware hasn't used a single line of GPL code (and alternately
Corel when they port the m$ .NET crud) then they are ok to give you just
binaries, aren't they? Or is one of the .NET programs going to be a MS
Linux? My understanding of the article was that they were going to port
MS applications to linux, not redesign linux such that it works with the
applications (Although that would probably be SOP for MS.)

Paul

Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and
> try to distribute its own "no source code" version.
> 
> --
> Howard.
> __
> LANNet Computing Associates 
> 
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution
> > Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to
> > "ease itself into the open source community" according
> > this article by the National Post Online
> >
> > http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.html
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Re: [SLUG] CLID software ?

[Grahame Kelly]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> Is there any means by which I can get a modem to pass the CLID of an
> incoming call over to Linux so that I can work with it against a
> database.  A search on Google has not turned up much of relevance.

Hi Howard.

I use XCallerID to retrieve the CallerID from my modem, look up a MySQL DB,
then output the corresponding voice file that lets us know who is calling -
so that we know if to answer the phone or not without being around the 
Linux system (works even better if you interface the "line out" to a
el'cheapo FM transmitter - or if you are really game, tune it to the IF of
your home radio || TV system so it doesn't matter what channel you or the
family are tuned to). I also was looking at once interfacing a "one chip"
RS232 to TV signal that would display the Caller Name on the TV for 
deaf persons.

Further XCallerID developments have been folded into 
the latest (early 2000) releases.

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Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[Howard Lowndes]

My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and
try to distribute its own "no source code" version.

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution
> Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to
> "ease itself into the open source community" according
> this article by the National Post Online
> 
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[SLUG] CLID software ?

[Howard Lowndes]

Is there any means by which I can get a modem to pass the CLID of an
incoming call over to Linux so that I can work with it against a
database.  A search on Google has not turned up much of relevance.

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[SLUG] MS Linux gets closer

[kevin]

Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution
Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to
"ease itself into the open source community" according
this article by the National Post Online

http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.html


Kind regards

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Re: [SLUG] Time Drift

[Howard Lowndes]

With RH it's in the xntpd rpm

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Thom May wrote:

> At some point around Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:27:49 +1100, marty said:
> > On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
> > clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
> > now about quarter of an hour slow...
> If the load average is *massive* then the system time can drift
> - we were losing about a quarter hour a day on our firewall when
>   we had IPCHAINS logging turned on...
> > 
> > any suggestions for why that is happening and a [fix | pointers to docs] ?
> 
> if you're on dial up the best solution is ntpdate -
> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/
> 
> -Thom
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Re: [SLUG] Netscape error

[Thom May]

At some point around Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:13:35 +1100, Jason Stokes said:
> Heracles wrote:
> > 
> > >From time to time, usually after a few hours on the net, Netscape
> > will crash and autoclose with the only error given being "bus
> > error". It has only happened since I upgraded to Netscape 4.75.
> > Any ideas? It is not much of a hassle, but I would prefer not to
> > have the problem.
> 
> Yes, Netscape leaks memory like a sieve. Even while idle it seems to do
> it.  It also can create dangling pointers.  If that happens it'll crash
> with a "bus error", which is actually a memory error. Answer: quit and
> restart Netscape every hour or so.
> 
> Here's a queston: why is "From" always quoted with a > if it appears on
> the first column of an email message?  Can't SMTP servers distinguish
> between "From" in the header section and "From" in the body of the
> message?
That is part of RFC822, if memory serves. (Or one of the email
related rfcs, anyway) see:
http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/Orig/rfc886.txt
http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/Orig/rfc822.txt
The "From  blah@blah $DATE" line is the one true From line, any
others are just prettification. As far as I'm aware, anyways...

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Re: [SLUG] Netscape error

[James Wilkinson]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Jason Stokes generated:

>Here's a queston: why is "From" always quoted with a > if it appears on
>the first column of an email message?  Can't SMTP servers distinguish
>between "From" in the header section and "From" in the body of the
>message?

RFC822 holds the answer.  Or is it 821.  One of them, anyway.

Short answer: the string "From:" specifies who the mail was sent from,
but the string "From " appears at the top of the mail when stored in the
mbox format.  Mailers use this string to identify the start of a
message.  Hence "From " always gets quoted when it appears at the start
of a line in the message body.

Same goes for lines containing a single dot, except they get quoted with
another dot.  This is only for transferring, iirc, and doesn't appear in
the mbox file.

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Re: [SLUG] Netscape error

[Jason Stokes]

Heracles wrote:
> 
> >From time to time, usually after a few hours on the net, Netscape
> will crash and autoclose with the only error given being "bus
> error". It has only happened since I upgraded to Netscape 4.75.
> Any ideas? It is not much of a hassle, but I would prefer not to
> have the problem.

Yes, Netscape leaks memory like a sieve. Even while idle it seems to do
it.  It also can create dangling pointers.  If that happens it'll crash
with a "bus error", which is actually a memory error. Answer: quit and
restart Netscape every hour or so.

Here's a queston: why is "From" always quoted with a > if it appears on
the first column of an email message?  Can't SMTP servers distinguish
between "From" in the header section and "From" in the body of the
message?


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Re: [SLUG] Time Drift

[Russell Davies]

; On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
; clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
; now about quarter of an hour slow...
; 
; any suggestions for why that is happening and a [fix | pointers to docs] ?
; 

http://cr.yp.to/clockspeed.html

r.


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Re: [SLUG] Time Drift

[Thom May]

At some point around Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:27:49 +1100, marty said:
> On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
> clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
> now about quarter of an hour slow...
If the load average is *massive* then the system time can drift
- we were losing about a quarter hour a day on our firewall when
  we had IPCHAINS logging turned on...
> 
> any suggestions for why that is happening and a [fix | pointers to docs] ?

if you're on dial up the best solution is ntpdate -
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/

-Thom


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Re: [SLUG] Netscape error

[Thom May]

Pretty much a fact of life with Netscape - 4.75 is the *least*
bad version i've come acroos. actually...
If you're after a long term fix, Moz M18 now does Java, and so,
I think, does galleon...
-Thom
At some point around Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:27:37 +, Heracles said:
> >From time to time, usually after a few hours on the net, Netscape
> will crash and autoclose with the only error given being "bus
> error". It has only happened since I upgraded to Netscape 4.75.
> Any ideas? It is not much of a hassle, but I would prefer not to
> have the problem.
> 
> Stay well and happy
> Heracles
> 
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[SLUG] Time Drift

[marty]

On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
now about quarter of an hour slow...

any suggestions for why that is happening and a [fix | pointers to docs] ?

later
marty

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[SLUG] Netscape error

[Heracles]

>From time to time, usually after a few hours on the net, Netscape
will crash and autoclose with the only error given being "bus
error". It has only happened since I upgraded to Netscape 4.75.
Any ideas? It is not much of a hassle, but I would prefer not to
have the problem.

Stay well and happy
Heracles


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Re: [SLUG] Routing problem...perhaps

[Jeff Waugh]

Alister Waller said something along the lines of:

> Surely that would be on the Linux machine that the other linux machine dials
> into...on machine R in my example below.


The proxyarp setting is required on the gateway, not the remote machine.

man pppd reads thus:


   proxyarp
  Add  an entry to this system's ARP [Address Resolu­
  tion Protocol] table with the  IP  address  of  the
  peer and the Ethernet address of this system.  This
  will have the effect of making the peer  appear  to
  other systems to be on the local ethernet.


The last sentence is the most interesting bit. :)

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Re: [SLUG] Modem recommendation.

[Jon Biddell]

I'm using a US Robotics 56K Professional Messaging Modem, the one
with a few meg of RAM for off-line fax reception, voicemail and the
like, and it is rock solid. Also works as a bloody good full-duplex
speaker phone.

I've also got a Banksia Wave SP (56k) that works fine and is
surplus if you ewant to make me an offer...:-)

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[SLUG] SuSE Linux 6.3

[Jon Biddell]

OK, I know it's an older version, but it's a good intro to Linux
and the documentation is pretty bloody good as well.

If anyone was to offer me, say, $20 for the box, or a slab of Hahn
Light (or a bottle of Butterscotch Schnapps), I would part with it.

 
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Re: [SLUG] IP Chains config

[Jon Biddell]

> I will get the hang of this one day.

I know the feeling - BOY, do I know the feeling !!

>   ipchains -P forward DENY
>   ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.26.0/24 -j MASQ

Except for numbers, this works on my system.
 
> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> i get a 0, not the 1 that I need.

You need to do;

echo '1' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

to activate forwarding.

> hmmm...now how do I start ipchains or ipforwarding now at boot time?

Dump Deadrat, and switch to SuSE !!..:-)

Seriously, the firewall in SuSE is pretty damn good when you get it
working (so many combinations, so little time !!)

IMaybe someone else can point you in the right direction as to this
last bit...

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