Re: [SLUG] Associating filenames

[Peter Hardy]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 07:14:16AM +, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> Is there any ability in Linux to associate filename extensions, or 
> similar, with applications.  I have been fiddling with Staroffice and 
That's pretty much a file manager thing.  GNOME associates by mime-type, and I think 
KDE does as well.  You'll also see it in (IIRC) midnight commander, and things like 
tkdesk.  There isn't, to my knowledge, any command-line utilities to do this though.  
Which is kind of a shame.  The one thing I really miss about windows is the 
command-line "start" command. :-(

HTH,
Peter
(who sees a reasonable idea for a new project in this)


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Re: [SLUG] Associating filenames

[Jeff Waugh]

Howard Lowndes said something along the lines of:

> Is there any ability in Linux to associate filename extensions, or 
> similar, with applications.  I have been fiddling with Staroffice and 
> that works OK, but I am curious as to whether the ability exists in 
> Linux on a broader basis, more to do with such associations in 
> Netscrape.


Where are you making the associations (or want to)?

File managers such as GMC, Nautilus and EFM will do this for you as part of
their mime support, usually using magic2mime (and related utilities or
libraries).

  Here's yet another area where the MacOS had us in 85. Intrinsic metadata.
  DOS/Windows had easily human-stuffupable "metadata" with file extensions,
  UNIX has nothing (apart from what the file appears to be). BeOS however,
  has a very, very heavy focus on metadata (the filesystem is designed to
  have almost unlimited metadata extensibility).


With Linux, you either rely on your applications (generally the file manager
types), or have to work it out yourself.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] Associating filenames

[Ken Yap]

>Is there any ability in Linux to associate filename extensions, or 
>similar, with applications.  I have been fiddling with Staroffice and 
>that works OK, but I am curious as to whether the ability exists in 
>Linux on a broader basis, more to do with such associations in 
>Netscrape.

No, that's regarded as userland stuff so it's done on a per-manager
basis by file managers and browsers. This is arguably a weakness of the
Unix filesystem model, it delegates these issues to applications.
Although Linus has said that he would like to see support for multipart
files a la Mac's forks. This is actually stronger than matching by
extension, it effectively creates file typing.


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[SLUG] Associating filenames

[Howard Lowndes]

Is there any ability in Linux to associate filename extensions, or 
similar, with applications.  I have been fiddling with Staroffice and 
that works OK, but I am curious as to whether the ability exists in 
Linux on a broader basis, more to do with such associations in 
Netscrape.

Howard 





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Re: [SLUG] Promise ATA/100 Linux Drivers

[Dean Hamstead]

> >Also, I was wondering if anyone knew how much faster of slower
> >(I hope not!)
> >Linux runs compared to NT/Win2K on dual processor machines. I
> >heard someone tell
> >me between 60-80% of the combined speeds of the two chips.
> 
> 2.4 has support for the A7V built in.  To install on the ATA-100 with 2.2,
> just get the linux-ide patches and install with the drive connected to the
> ATA-66 interface.  Then move the drive to the ATA-100 and it should just
> work (haven't tried this myself yet).

Just grab the patches, you might need to turn on the experiment stuff to
allow you to get at them. 

> Performance on both Linux and NT/Win2k on SMP boxes depends heavily on the
> application.  I haven't had much experience with SMP Linux, but 2 CPUs on
> NT/Win2k goes anywhere from no improvement to over 99% improvement over 1
> CPU.  I've heard similar results for Linux.

Depends how threaded the task is, if your running more than one single
threaded task youll see a performance increase. Seti (for example) is
single threaded (when i was into it) so if you wanted smp benefits you
ran two 
copies. Threads are divided between cpus. However 2xcpu <> 2xperformance

> Note that 2.4 is a lot better with SMP than 2.2 is.  There are many more
> locks removed from the kernel.

More locks where added i believe, removing them would make things worse,
as only one cpu can access one subsystem (eg. the network or the file
system)
by spliting them into more bits you allow the other cpu to access them
instead of waiting.

Its worth noting that some hardware (and/or drivers) disagree with
smp performance. ISA stuff for example. Stick with new pci stuff.

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Re: [SLUG] Mozilla M18

[Dean Hamstead]

I havent tried anything much more than mouse overs

i got the bin, too lazy to compile

Dean

Peter Rundle wrote:
> 
> Dean,
> 
> > java script looks good.
> 
> So you managed to get this working? I have a java script on my home page
> (the spring that follows the cursor). It works fine in 4.75 but mozilla
> just ignored it. Did you download and build mozilla or did you grab
> a binary?
> 
> I really need to get a java capable browser for my work and then I
> can ditch 4.75 and memory leak hell.
> 
> Pete
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Re: [SLUG] lpd not binding

[Adrian van den Dries]

Thanks! Turns out the queue for another, currently-disconnected, printer was
non-empty, so I cleared it ('lprm -Pprinter -' does the whole queue), restarted
lpd, all was fine. Reboot? Just for a printer daemon? Ha.

Wrote Howard:
> I have had this problem recently.  I found the only solution was to kill
> the daemon, kill ALL queued jobs (manually was the easiest), reboot and
> see if that worked, which it did.
> 
> Does anyone else know why lpd seems to get its knickers twisted like this?

'Cos lpd sucks. :) (stock response from hothead young techie...)
LPRng does seem less hassle, though.


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Re: [SLUG] Mozilla M18

[Peter Rundle]

Dean,

> java script looks good.

So you managed to get this working? I have a java script on my home page
(the spring that follows the cursor). It works fine in 4.75 but mozilla
just ignored it. Did you download and build mozilla or did you grab 
a binary?

I really need to get a java capable browser for my work and then I
can ditch 4.75 and memory leak hell.

Pete


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RE: [SLUG] Promise ATA/100 Linux Drivers

[George Vieira]

I'm working on this Netfinity box with a dual PIII 733Mhz and RedHat 6.2 and
it kills our server which is a PIII 600Mhz single proc'.
Though I am running hardware RAID at around 50GB.

That GKrellM program rocks too by the way.. I wish it had a feature to show
and alert diskspace...

thanks,
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Network Administrator
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From: Aaron Binns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:56 PM
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Subject: [SLUG] Promise ATA/100 Linux Drivers




Does anyone know if there is driver support for the Promise ATA/100
controller
on the Asus A7V motherboard? I want to have my hard drive running off this
controller, but I need to know if Linux is going to suport it, as without
the
drivers "some-other-OS's" (tm) will not install to devices off this
controller.

Also, I was wondering if anyone knew how much faster of slower (I hope not!)
Linux runs compared to NT/Win2K on dual processor machines. I heard someone
tell
me between 60-80% of the combined speeds of the two chips.

Aaron

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RE: [SLUG] Promise ATA/100 Linux Drivers

[John Wiltshire]

From: Aaron Binns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>Does anyone know if there is driver support for the Promise 
>ATA/100 controller
>on the Asus A7V motherboard? I want to have my hard drive 
>running off this
>controller, but I need to know if Linux is going to suport it, 
>as without the
>drivers "some-other-OS's" (tm) will not install to devices off 
>this controller.
>
>Also, I was wondering if anyone knew how much faster of slower 
>(I hope not!)
>Linux runs compared to NT/Win2K on dual processor machines. I 
>heard someone tell
>me between 60-80% of the combined speeds of the two chips.

2.4 has support for the A7V built in.  To install on the ATA-100 with 2.2,
just get the linux-ide patches and install with the drive connected to the
ATA-66 interface.  Then move the drive to the ATA-100 and it should just
work (haven't tried this myself yet).

Performance on both Linux and NT/Win2k on SMP boxes depends heavily on the
application.  I haven't had much experience with SMP Linux, but 2 CPUs on
NT/Win2k goes anywhere from no improvement to over 99% improvement over 1
CPU.  I've heard similar results for Linux.

Note that 2.4 is a lot better with SMP than 2.2 is.  There are many more
locks removed from the kernel.

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[SLUG] Promise ATA/100 Linux Drivers

[Aaron Binns]

Does anyone know if there is driver support for the Promise ATA/100 controller
on the Asus A7V motherboard? I want to have my hard drive running off this
controller, but I need to know if Linux is going to suport it, as without the
drivers "some-other-OS's" (tm) will not install to devices off this controller.

Also, I was wondering if anyone knew how much faster of slower (I hope not!)
Linux runs compared to NT/Win2K on dual processor machines. I heard someone tell
me between 60-80% of the combined speeds of the two chips.

Aaron
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Re: [SLUG] Slug Pearls?

[Dean Hamstead]

Making suggestions is always a bad thing...

Im willing to participate, gimme a few weeks i 
need to finish school though =)


Dean

Rodos wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > I await the emails.
> 
> Jeff you did get my private mail didn't you? Dean can we count you
> in? Think I will have a play with some of the tools.
> 
> Rodos

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Re: [SLUG] module loading

[Ken Yap]

>insmod parport_probe
>insmod lp

First of all, in general you should run modprobe in preference to
insmod, because modprobe will load dependencies as well.

>How do I run these automagically at boot up on redhat 6.2???

On my 6.1 system's /etc/conf.modules:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x378,0x278 irq=7,auto# this is optional

and when lp is used by lpd, it automatically causes parport to be loaded
which automatically causes parport_pc to be loaded. You may not need to
explicitly load parport_probe, on my system it was automatically loaded
along with parport_pc when I used parport.  If not just add modprobe
parport_probe to the appropriate init file, probably rc.local.


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[SLUG] module loading

[Alister Waller]

I had problems with LPD on the weekend when i had to reconfigure a kernel to
support ftape.
I have alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc in my conf.modules.

I looked around and all I could find to help was a suggestion to run

insmod parport_probe
insmod lp

(i think)

Anyway, it all seemed to run fine after that.

How do I run these automagically at boot up on redhat 6.2???


regards

Alister


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Re: [SLUG] Slug Pearls?

[Jeff Waugh]

Dean Hamstead said something along the lines of:

> Say you have a handful of people who grab out say 10 -20
> goodens each month, (no doubt you'll have alot of doubling up)
> then someone (some-two maybe) collaborate and its done!


That's the idea behind the group-authored cousins... although it's a lot
more organised than that. ;)


The question is who? I'm getting used to the "back away slowly" reaction to
involvement in SLUG things. If people want it to happen, they'll be willing
to stand up and say so.


I await the emails.

- Jeff


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Re: aic7xxx.o (Re: [SLUG] One for the Kernel Guru's)

[Ken Yap]

>With initrd.img based scsi booting, how does one tell the
>kernel which module to load inorder to access /

When the script constructs the initrd, it examines /etc/conf.modules to
see what modules to include. Obviously if you are building the initrd on
a different system than the one being booted, you need to specify the
module manually, which is what the --with and --preload options of RH's
mkinitrd are for. Other distros may have similar schemes that allow you
to specify what modules go into the initrd using a config file.


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Re: [SLUG] Mozilla M18

[Dean Hamstead]

Its very stable and really blows IE out of the water.
For 8 megs its damn good even without java (which i havent tried)
java script looks good.

I also like its excellent (and easy) control of cookies, form data and
logins. I also like how you can block images from sites inside the 
browser (although you cant specify they site which is a bit silly)

I recommend it to everyone.. oh, they ditched the yucky blue theme
in favour of a very stylish updated blue theme. m18 uses "classic" by
default. Its very pretty =)

Dean

Peter Rundle wrote:
> 
> Sluggers,
> 
> Sending this message with M18 of Mozilla, looks pretty good so far.
> Anyone else
> tried it? Anyone got Java working with it. I went to a Java page and it
> said I
> needed a plugin which it downloaded and then subsequently went unstable on
> me crashing whenever I left the java page. Otherwise it's getting closer
> 
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aic7xxx.o (Re: [SLUG] One for the Kernel Guru's)

[Dean Hamstead]

With initrd.img based scsi booting, how does one tell the
kernel which module to load inorder to access /

Im running a nice dual p3 800 (gig ram, hardware raid..)
and it persists in trying to load the aic7xxx.0 module,
even now i have the raid driver inbuilt it still attempts
to load... 

not a huge concern, no doubt im missing a lilo option

Dean

Peter Rundle wrote:
> 
> Sluggers,
> 
> Mehmet kindly found the link for win4lin pre-made kernels for RH6.2 and I
> have downloaded and installed one. However when I boot it I get lots of
> warnings from /lib/aic7xxx.o refering to smp, here's the last few lines
> of the boot output,
> 
>   /lib/aic7xxx.o:unresolved symbol panic_Rsmp01075bf0
>   autodetecting RAID arrays
>   autorun...
>   ...autorun DONE.
>   kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modeprobe -s -k block-major-8, errno = 2
>   VFS: Cannot open root device 08:03
>   Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:03
> 
> This is the same error I get when I try to roll my own kernel (with or
> without win4lin drivers). I only have a single CPU but when I installed
> RH6.2 it used the smp kernel (2.2.14-5).
> 
> Help?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Pete
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Re: [SLUG] Slug Pearls?

[Dean Hamstead]

Say you have a handful of people who grab out say 10 -20
goodens each month, (no doubt you'll have alot of doubling up)
then someone (some-two maybe) collaborate and its done!

Dean (full of good ideas to be scrutinized)

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> Rodos said something along the lines of:
> 
> > Jeff what do you think, do you need/want some help? Anyone else putting
> > their hand up?
> 
> Well, so far I've managed to scare off a few people just asking, so thank
> you for actually offering! (He says, recovering from complete and utter
> shock.)
> 
> No one seemed interested in helping before, so when my time became short, it
> just finished (and then the inspiration to continue also).
> 
> I've been talking to Zack in the last few weeks about doing a group-authored
> cousin, much like the recent Debian cousins. A full cousin takes a fair few
> hours to produce, whereas a 'distributed' one would just be a matter of
> getting people to put a few minutes in... but that's usually quite an
> effort in itself.
> 
> Email me off-list and I'll fill you in with the notty-gritty.
> 
> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] [OT] SMS - Optus

[Rodos]

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

> Is email to SMS possible with CWO and something like qpage?  I seem to
> recall that it wasn't, but have things changed?  If it is, what is the
> number pse?

Not that any of us have been able to find out or get working. RedRock
offer a commerical service that works via email or if you get the
expensive account you can use TAPI over TCP/IP with qpage and if that
fails ring their direct number. 

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Re: [SLUG] lpd not binding

[dave kempe]

BUgger, i found the cause of my problem, Didnt have parrallel printer support
in the kernel. Left it out when getting freeS/WAN to work :/
Now any suggestions on how to specify a custom paper size?


dave

excuse the root - i'm only on this puta for a few more hours

root wrote:

> Damnit,  I'm getting exactly the same error here. It seems that the
> partport_pc detects the parrallel port ok, but i can't send any jobs to the
> printer. I have removed the entire spool directory, upgraded to the latest
> lprng. It is also saying now that it can;t write to the device lp0. There
> seems to be some problem creating the device.
> How do i get linux to talk to lp0 properly? The bios detects it correctly at
> 378, where does it say that this parra port equals this device? I'm a bit
> stuck until i can get this working.
>
> thanks,
>
> dave
>
> Adrian van den Dries wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Had to reboot a server here, and I find that lpd is dead. The init script
> > starts OK, but when using lpr:
> >
> > lpr: connect: Connection refused
> > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
> >
> > Also, there's nothing bound locally to port 515.
> >
> > It seems, though, that some jobs are in fact going through the queue (I'm
> > doing this remotely, and I'm told some of my test messages get through).
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
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[SLUG] [OT] SMS - Optus

[Howard Lowndes]

Is email to SMS possible with CWO and something like qpage?  I seem to
recall that it wasn't, but have things changed?  If it is, what is the
number pse?

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Re: [SLUG] lpd not binding

[Howard Lowndes]

Make sure that your /etc/conf.modules files has the following line:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc

and do lsmod to make sure that things are running OK.

Just cos the BIOS sees it means nothing.

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, root wrote:

> Damnit,  I'm getting exactly the same error here. It seems that the
> partport_pc detects the parrallel port ok, but i can't send any jobs to the
> printer. I have removed the entire spool directory, upgraded to the latest
> lprng. It is also saying now that it can;t write to the device lp0. There
> seems to be some problem creating the device.
> How do i get linux to talk to lp0 properly? The bios detects it correctly at
> 378, where does it say that this parra port equals this device? I'm a bit
> stuck until i can get this working.



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Re: [SLUG] lpd not binding

[root]

Damnit,  I'm getting exactly the same error here. It seems that the
partport_pc detects the parrallel port ok, but i can't send any jobs to the
printer. I have removed the entire spool directory, upgraded to the latest
lprng. It is also saying now that it can;t write to the device lp0. There
seems to be some problem creating the device.
How do i get linux to talk to lp0 properly? The bios detects it correctly at
378, where does it say that this parra port equals this device? I'm a bit
stuck until i can get this working.

thanks,

dave


Adrian van den Dries wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Had to reboot a server here, and I find that lpd is dead. The init script
> starts OK, but when using lpr:
>
> lpr: connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
>
> Also, there's nothing bound locally to port 515.
>
> It seems, though, that some jobs are in fact going through the queue (I'm
> doing this remotely, and I'm told some of my test messages get through).
>
> Anyone?
>
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Re: [SLUG] lpd not binding

[Leon Strong]

try the new lpd daemon.. lpd sucks ass ; )

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

> I have had this problem recently.  I found the only solution was to kill
> the daemon, kill ALL queued jobs (manually was the easiest), reboot and
> see if that worked, which it did.
> 
> Does anyone else know why lpd seems to get its knickers twisted like this?
> 
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> __
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> 
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Adrian van den Dries wrote:
> 
> > Hi all.
> > 
> > Had to reboot a server here, and I find that lpd is dead. The init script
> > starts OK, but when using lpr:
> > 
> > lpr: connect: Connection refused
> > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
> > 
> > Also, there's nothing bound locally to port 515.
> > 
> > It seems, though, that some jobs are in fact going through the queue (I'm
> > doing this remotely, and I'm told some of my test messages get through).
> > 
> > Anyone?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Can We Do This?

[Michael Lake]

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> THIS WAS SENT TO ME.  SEE WHAT YOU THINK.  VERY COOL!
> http://freetailer.excite.com/48/1045148/flashtech22.html
> Could We Put Something Like This Together?

Hopefully not :-)

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RE: [SLUG] Rodos, one to add to your list...

[John Wiltshire]

From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>Morning all,
>
>This one's a bit naughty, but the Penguinillas amongst us may 
>enjoy it...
>Some may already know, I'm sure. ;)
>
>I've found another way to fool Outlook and Outlook Express 
>into misbehaving,
>making your emails unreadable. A fun way to do this is by automatically
>getting your replies to 'break' the MUA. So, over the last 
>week or so, I've
>set mutt up like this:
>
>  set attribution = "begin  %n  quotation:\n"
>
>
>Any reply will start with, for instance, "begin  Rodos  
>quotation:" making
>the MS products show a "quotation.dat" file as an attachment, 
>and no text
>within the email.
>
>[ For those of you using Outlook Express, you can read these 
>emails by going
>to File > Properties > 'Full Source' (or something like that) ]
>
>Why the two spaces? Because that's important. :) The MS 
>products interpret
>anything after the word "begin" (at the start of a new line) with two
>trailing spaces, as an attachment. There's no way that could *possibly*
>happen out in the wild, is there? ;) Strong stuff, MS.
>
>Supposedly, if you do this *anywhere* within the body,
>
>begin  gotcha.
>
>the MS products will regard the rest as an attachment. It's not even
>restricted to a specific point in the email (say the first line). One
>wonders why MS couldn't restrict their toying to the headers, 
>instead of
>trampling all over the body...
>
>
>So, in the interests of open information, I've changed my attribution
>setting back to something a little more conventional. But if 
>you need to
>cause some havoc sometime... Remember this one. :)

FYI:

Doesn't work on OL2000 when run through Exchange Server.  Must be something
to do with the POP3/IMAP engine?

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Re: [SLUG] lpd not binding

[Howard Lowndes]

I have had this problem recently.  I found the only solution was to kill
the daemon, kill ALL queued jobs (manually was the easiest), reboot and
see if that worked, which it did.

Does anyone else know why lpd seems to get its knickers twisted like this?

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Adrian van den Dries wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> Had to reboot a server here, and I find that lpd is dead. The init script
> starts OK, but when using lpr:
> 
> lpr: connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
> 
> Also, there's nothing bound locally to port 515.
> 
> It seems, though, that some jobs are in fact going through the queue (I'm
> doing this remotely, and I'm told some of my test messages get through).
> 
> Anyone?
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Slug Pearls?

[Jeff Waugh]

Rodos said something along the lines of:

> Jeff what do you think, do you need/want some help? Anyone else putting
> their hand up?


Well, so far I've managed to scare off a few people just asking, so thank
you for actually offering! (He says, recovering from complete and utter
shock.)

No one seemed interested in helping before, so when my time became short, it
just finished (and then the inspiration to continue also).

I've been talking to Zack in the last few weeks about doing a group-authored
cousin, much like the recent Debian cousins. A full cousin takes a fair few
hours to produce, whereas a 'distributed' one would just be a matter of
getting people to put a few minutes in... but that's usually quite an
effort in itself.


Email me off-list and I'll fill you in with the notty-gritty.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] Routing Book

[Umar Goldeli]

A friend of mine actually just bought a book called "Linux Routers" (I
think) - a had a quick flick through it, and it had everything from LRP to
which WAN cards worked best etc... it's hardcover and definitely lives at
tech Dymocks in the city... have a look.. :)

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[SLUG] Mozilla M18

[Peter Rundle]

Sluggers,

Sending this message with M18 of Mozilla, looks pretty good so far. 
Anyone else
tried it? Anyone got Java working with it. I went to a Java page and it 
said I
needed a plugin which it downloaded and then subsequently went unstable on
me crashing whenever I left the java page. Otherwise it's getting closer

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Re: [SLUG] Slow initial telnet.

[Peter Rundle]

I think you will find that this applies to ftp as well.
If you remove resolv.conf and ftp to the ip address lightning
quick. Add a DNS server into resolv.conf that doesn't exist
telnet, ftp slow as but they eventually connect.

Pete


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Re: [SLUG] Rodos, one to add to your list...

[Tom Massey]

Well I figure if Jeff can get away with it... :-)

It seems that if you set the X-message-flag: header to contain more than
100 characters, Outlook can't display the email at all but gives the
error:

'Can't open this item. A follow up flag must be 100 characters or
less.'

Thought you might be interested.


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[SLUG] One for the Kernel Guru's

[Peter Rundle]

Sluggers,

Mehmet kindly found the link for win4lin pre-made kernels for RH6.2 and I 
have downloaded and installed one. However when I boot it I get lots of 
warnings from /lib/aic7xxx.o refering to smp, here's the last few lines 
of the boot output,

  /lib/aic7xxx.o:unresolved symbol panic_Rsmp01075bf0   
  autodetecting RAID arrays
  autorun...
  ...autorun DONE.
  kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modeprobe -s -k block-major-8, errno = 2
  VFS: Cannot open root device 08:03
  Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:03

This is the same error I get when I try to roll my own kernel (with or 
without win4lin drivers). I only have a single CPU but when I installed
RH6.2 it used the smp kernel (2.2.14-5).

Help?

thanks

Pete


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[SLUG] lpd not binding

[Adrian van den Dries]

Hi all.

Had to reboot a server here, and I find that lpd is dead. The init script
starts OK, but when using lpr:

lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.

Also, there's nothing bound locally to port 515.

It seems, though, that some jobs are in fact going through the queue (I'm
doing this remotely, and I'm told some of my test messages get through).

Anyone?

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Re: [SLUG] Oracle through a firewall

[Peter Rundle]

Hi Kevin,

> Hi has anyone had any joy allowing oracle plus/sql through a firewall?

We have that configured here with a double fire wall, first firewall lets 
packets through from the big bad internet to port 80 on the web server,
second firewall lets packets through only from the web server to port 1521 
on the DB server hosted on a private network. It works just fine. In this
way there is no access to the database directly from the internet, it
can only be accessed by applications on the web server which itself can
only be accessed via port 80 from outside. About as secure as you can make
it without actually turning it off ;-)

The tcp port defaults to 1521 for Tnslistener but is configurable. You can 
check if the firewall is allowing the packets by telneting to the database 
server (from the web server) on port 1521 and seeing if you get a response.

HTH

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[SLUG] Re: Oracle through a firewall

[Robert Maldon]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:55:49AM -1000, Kevin Saenz wrote:

> Hi has anyone had any joy allowing oracle plus/sql through a firewall?

Not really recommended from a security point of view. A firewall really needs
to be able to analyse data that passes through and be able to stop unauthorised
data from getting out. You will have much tighter control of the data if you
write your own application that sits between the firewall and the database.

If, however, you still want to proxy direct connections to the database...

> Does anyone know what ports TNS use when sending and recieving
> information

I take it you want to proxy connections to the "LISTENER"? This is defined
in the config file $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/listener.ora. A sample
listener.ora file may look something like this (names changed to protect the
innocent) :

# LISTENER.ORA Configuration File:/pkgs/oracle_root/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6
/network/admin/listener.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.

LISTENER =
  (DESCRIPTION_LIST =
(DESCRIPTION =
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = EXTPROC))
  )
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = penguin)(PORT = 1521))
  )
)
(DESCRIPTION =
  (PROTOCOL_STACK =
(PRESENTATION = GIOP)
(SESSION = RAW)
  )
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = penguin)(PORT = 2481))
)
  )

SID_LIST_LISTENER =
  (SID_LIST =
(SID_DESC =
  (SID_NAME = PLSExtProc)
  (ORACLE_HOME = /pkgs/oracle_root/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6)
  (PROGRAM = extproc)
)
(SID_DESC =
  (GLOBAL_DBNAME = db1.domain1)
  (ORACLE_HOME = /pkgs/oracle_root/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6)
  (SID_NAME = db1)
)
  )

>From the above config Oracle allows its proprietary protocol to connect to
port 1521 of the server penguin and the GIOP protocol (i.e. CORBA) to
connect to port 2481.

See the doco on the lsnrctl utility for more details.

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Re: [SLUG] Routing Book

[marty]

> > if you want something general unix -> essential system administration
> 
> I was looking at Essential System Administration the other day.  The copy I
> was looking at was published in 1995!  Is there a newer edition?  Is that
> one wroth buying?  Other than that, it looks like a good book.

the one i have is the 2nd edition (1995)... i am pretty sure that there is
a new edition on the way, but not sure how far along it will be...

what is developed well in the book is a process approach to certain
tasks rather then a blow by blow account (ie. type "this" in, then
"this"... etc. etc.)

later
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Re: [SLUG] Setting window manager in Debian.

[Arthur Barton]

> For more flexibility, start X by
>
> startx wmaker
>
xinit /usr/bin/enlightenment -- :1
:-)
xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session -- :2

etc...

And then just shell script the thing. At home i have:
eenlightenment
ggnome
xperl script to choose betwixt

If you just want an ascii login then boot straight to a wm, add a perl
script (such as my x script) as the last line of ~/.bash_profile.
It seems to act as a valid shell so that when you exit your xserver it logs
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Re: [SLUG] Getting my linux box to print to a windoze machine.

[Rodos]

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Paul Robinson wrote:

> Any ideas as to what could be going wrong? I've had the same problem at
> work (as have other people who have tried to get mandrake 7.0 to print
> to a win98 shared laser printer), could there have been a problem with
> the samba used in 7.0 that was fixed by 7.1?

Anything in the samba log files? Can you increase any log levels or
debugging to see how far the printing is going? Can you do a tcpdump on
data between the two addresses and see if the data is getting off the
Linux box onto the windows machine. If you can start eliminating where the
problem lies it might make it easier. 

Rodos

P.S. You might have already tried these already, just mentioning them in
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[SLUG] Slug Pearls?

[Rodos]

Been a while since we have seen the good ole SLUG Pearls. I am now at a
stage where I can spare an hour or two every few weeks so can help to
create them.

Maybe we could start with creating a HOWTO to assist new people for
creating them. Then people can job share. Just need four people to take
one week a month.

I notice on KT we have now become a sleeping cousin?

Jeff what do you think, do you need/want some help? Anyone else putting
their hand up?

Rodos



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Re: [SLUG] Getting my linux box to print to a windoze machine.

[Paul Robinson]

Well the configuration that you have written is the same as the one the
control panel's print setup produced. I've cut n pasted your two scripts
and modified share to match mine and restarted both lpd and samba (yes I
am using samba) and it still did not work. 

I'm certain I have samba working as other machines can see the linux
machine on their workgroup and the linux machine can see (and mount
shares) from other computers. I did notice, flicking t hrough smb.conf
again, that it loads the printers from printcap (as per normal in smb)
so it h as a share which is the printer as well, I tried printing from
one windows machine through the linux share, to the other windows
machine and that still didn't work either. Get's to the linux machine
and disapears (into /dev/null presumably).

Any ideas as to what could be going wrong? I've had the same problem at
work (as have other people who have tried to get mandrake 7.0 to print
to a win98 shared laser printer), could there have been a problem with
the samba used in 7.0 that was fixed by 7.1?

Thanks,
Paul

Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> Well, this is the entry out of my /etc/printcap using Mandrake 7.1 to a
> 'doze printer:
> 
> ##PRINTTOOL3## SMB ljet2p 300x300 a4 {} LaserJet2p Default 1
> lp:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:\
> :lp=/dev/null:\
> :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
> :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
> 
> and this is out of /var/spool/lpd/lp/.config
> 
> share='\\scribe\star'
> hostip=
> user=''
> password=''
> workgroup=''
> 
> Needless to say, I am running Samba, are you?
> 
> HTH
> 
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> 
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Paul Robinson wrote:
> 
> > Howdy all,
> >   I have been trying for quite a while to get my mandrake 7.0 box to
> > print to a laserjet attached to a win98 machine. Try as I may (including
> > following a set of "fool proof" instructions in the last issue of
> > APCmag) I cannot get it to print.
> >
> > my /etc/printcap is as follows :
> >
> > lp:\
> > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> > :sh:\
> > :lp=/dev/null:\
> > :if=/usr/bin/smbprint:


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RE: [SLUG] Reading a Microsoft Publisher file

[Michael Still]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Dave Kempe wrote:

> > CAn anybody help me get a microsoft publisher file into something sane
> > that I can use under linux ?
> 
> It's not that sane, but multipage tiff probably works in both. Forgotten the
> exact tiff requirements, but windows and linux support multipage tiffs.
> Probably sucks big time to edit. Its about your only hope of preserving the
> look at least decently.
> Of course if you didnt want to edit it pdf/ps works great. Actually.. ps you
> can edit fine in a fiar few drawing tools. Try for PS :)

Multi page TIFF definitely does work on both platforms. You could use the
gimp to edit the images, but the text will now be treated as pixels, not
text.

If you have the Adobe acrobat tools (the bought ones), then you can edit
PDF. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for the open source community to catch
up (probably about 6 months).

Mikal

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Re: [SLUG] Setting window manager in Debian.

[Nick Croft]

Rodos,

If in Debian, do

update-rc.d -f xdm remove

To get rid of the beast. Otherwise just find it and rename it rm it

 Then run startx, which will probably go to enlightenment.

For more flexibility, start X by

startx wmaker

Once WindowMaker has configured its menus, you can go to whatever window
manager you like, and save your session there.

No-one needs *dm

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Re: [SLUG] Routing Book

[Peter Hardy]

> > Also a good Book on Linux in generaladmin etc .I use Redhat.
> 
> how much prompting do you need ??
> 
> if you just want a reference -> linux in a nutshell
> 
> if you want something more narrative -> running redhat linux
> 
> if you want something general unix -> essential system administration

I was looking at Essential System Administration the other day.  The copy I
was looking at was published in 1995!  Is there a newer edition?  Is that
one wroth buying?  Other than that, it looks like a good book.

Cheers,
Peter

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Re: [SLUG] Getting my linux box to print to a windoze machine.

[Howard Lowndes]

Well, this is the entry out of my /etc/printcap using Mandrake 7.1 to a
'doze printer:

##PRINTTOOL3## SMB ljet2p 300x300 a4 {} LaserJet2p Default 1
lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:

and this is out of /var/spool/lpd/lp/.config

share='\\scribe\star'
hostip=
user=''
password=''
workgroup=''

Needless to say, I am running Samba, are you?

HTH

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Paul Robinson wrote:

> Howdy all,
>   I have been trying for quite a while to get my mandrake 7.0 box to
> print to a laserjet attached to a win98 machine. Try as I may (including
> following a set of "fool proof" instructions in the last issue of
> APCmag) I cannot get it to print.
> 
> my /etc/printcap is as follows :
> 
> lp:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> :sh:\
> :lp=/dev/null:\
> :if=/usr/bin/smbprint:



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Re: [SLUG] Routing Book

[marty]

> Can anyway suggest a good Book on configuring Linux as a router. I am still
> having some problems and think it might be time to read up and maybe get a
> grasp on what should be happening rather than what is happening.
> 
> ideally something that deals with many scenarious including dialup, LAN and
> WAN.

I will be having a look at a book called "linux routers" over the next
week (uni library got a copy and i am first in line)...  i'll let you know
how it is...

> Also a good Book on Linux in generaladmin etc .I use Redhat.

how much prompting do you need ??

if you just want a reference -> linux in a nutshell

if you want something more narrative -> running redhat linux

if you want something general unix -> essential system administration

all o'reilly...

later
marty

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[SLUG] Getting my linux box to print to a windoze machine.

[Paul Robinson]

Howdy all,
I have been trying for quite a while to get my mandrake 7.0 box to
print to a laserjet attached to a win98 machine. Try as I may (including
following a set of "fool proof" instructions in the last issue of
APCmag) I cannot get it to print.

my /etc/printcap is as follows :

lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:if=/usr/bin/smbprint:
The original set of instructions had what is above, except for the
:lp=/dev/null:\ line. I added that after trying to fix the problem that
occurs if I use it without that line. If I use it without the /dev/null
line it just sits in the queue as active and it doesn't do anything. If
I have the /dev/null (or /dev/lp or /usr/bin/sbmprint) as an lp= entry
then it behaves as normal where it sits in the queue for a bit then has
supposedly finished. I check the printer, nothing there. 

I also have the .config file setup that they said to use with proper
details about the netbios name, printer name and password etc. I tried
RTFM before looking at the apcmag and I've also tried using the GUI in
the control-panel / drakeconf to give it the details. All of which
produce the same effect, print jobs supposedly being completed and
nothing comming out of the printer.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Setting this up in
reverse was a snap when the linux box had control of the printer, it's
just the reverse that's proving to be a pain.

Many thanks,

Paul


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RE: [SLUG] Reading a Microsoft Publisher file

[Dave Kempe]

> CAn anybody help me get a microsoft publisher file into something sane
> that I can use under linux ?

It's not that sane, but multipage tiff probably works in both. Forgotten the
exact tiff requirements, but windows and linux support multipage tiffs.
Probably sucks big time to edit. Its about your only hope of preserving the
look at least decently.
Of course if you didnt want to edit it pdf/ps works great. Actually.. ps you
can edit fine in a fiar few drawing tools. Try for PS :)

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Re: [SLUG] Reading a Microsoft Publisher file

[Jon Biddell]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Erich Schulz wrote:
> CAn anybody help me get a microsoft publisher file into something sane
> that I can use under linux ?

I hesitate to mention this, but one of our machines at work is
running Publisher...:-(

Bot what could it be converted TO ??  I mean, I'm happy to convert
it amd mail it back to you, but buggered is MSloth supports
anything that Linux can read (unless Word is acceptable ?)
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Regards,

Jon

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[SLUG] Reading a Microsoft Publisher file

[Erich Schulz]

CAn anybody help me get a microsoft publisher file into something sane
that I can use under linux ?

Cheers

Erich


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[SLUG] Can We Do This?

[pamsnyder]

THIS WAS SENT TO ME.  SEE WHAT YOU THINK.  VERY COOL!

http://freetailer.excite.com/48/1045148/flashtech22.html

Could We Put Something Like This Together?


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Re: [SLUG] Oracle through a firewall

[Scott Howard]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:55:49AM -1000, Kevin Saenz wrote:
> Hi has anyone had any joy allowing oracle plus/sql through a firewall?
> Does anyone know what ports TNS use when sending and recieving
> information

Whatever port you tell it to. (Defaults to 1600 from memory, but I could
be way out).  Any of netstat, lsof and/or tcpdump should be able to tell
you which for sure.

  Scott.


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RE: [SLUG] Authentication Question

[James Hamilton]

I agree with Tom. Sound like a textbook case for LDAP.

James 

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