Re: [SLUG] memory usage monitoring

[John Ryland]

On my computer, X is using 126M, java is using 75M.
The K media player is using between 15 and 20% CPU, ktop is using 10% (fast 
refresh) setiathome the rest. But for some reason my CPU usage adds up to 
200%  :)

Another way to get memory usage info is to poke around /proc. Not highly 
recommended if you don't know what you are doing though.

John


On Monday 20 November 2000 17:32, chesty wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 04:40:33PM +1100, Alister Waller wrote:
> > Whats a good way/tool for monitoring memory usage and the processes that
> > are using it?
>
> Beats me. I would like to know more about this sort of
> stuff, though.
>
> Top can sort processes by memory usage rather than cpu,
> press "M" while in top, man top will explain what all the
> fields mean.
>
> I also use ps, ie
>
> ps -A -o pid,majflt,minflt,trs,drs,rss,sz,%mem,start,comm --sort majflt
>
> I normally sort by majflt, because thats the number of times
> a process has needed to load a page of memory in from swap.
> (Thats my wording, I could be wrong)
> And swapping slows the whole system down, so I want to know whos
> swapping the most.
>
> Be careful if you're comparing majflt's of different processes,
> one process may have been running for an hour, and the other
> one a month.
>
> Also look at procinfo and procinfo(8)
> proc(5),ps(1),top(1)
>
> ps, and to some extent top, only tells you about process that
> are running right now, those are the processes that normally hang
> around for a long time, they don't normally record short lived
> processes. And they don't tell you about a process that died
> sometime ago.
> I have no idea how to record those, but I would like to know.
> Perhaps acct is the answer, but I haven't looked at it.


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Re: [SLUG] covert lowercase to uppercase.

[Rodos]

On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Alister Waller wrote:

> I need to convert lowercase filenames to uppercase.
> its actually on a SCO box so something kinda generic would be nice.

I am sure there are better ways to do it but everything looks like a Perl
script to me. I had to do the exact same thing today to convert a pile of
uppercase JPG files into lower case.

ls *.JPG | perl -ane 'chop; system("mv $_ " . lc($_));'

Rodos

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Re: [SLUG] memory usage monitoring

[chesty]

On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 04:40:33PM +1100, Alister Waller wrote:
> Whats a good way/tool for monitoring memory usage and the processes that are
> using it?

Beats me. I would like to know more about this sort of
stuff, though.

Top can sort processes by memory usage rather than cpu,
press "M" while in top, man top will explain what all the
fields mean.

I also use ps, ie

ps -A -o pid,majflt,minflt,trs,drs,rss,sz,%mem,start,comm --sort majflt

I normally sort by majflt, because thats the number of times
a process has needed to load a page of memory in from swap.
(Thats my wording, I could be wrong)
And swapping slows the whole system down, so I want to know whos
swapping the most.

Be careful if you're comparing majflt's of different processes,
one process may have been running for an hour, and the other
one a month.

Also look at procinfo and procinfo(8)
proc(5),ps(1),top(1)

ps, and to some extent top, only tells you about process that
are running right now, those are the processes that normally hang 
around for a long time, they don't normally record short lived 
processes. And they don't tell you about a process that died
sometime ago.
I have no idea how to record those, but I would like to know. 
Perhaps acct is the answer, but I haven't looked at it.

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Re: [SLUG] covert lowercase to uppercase.

[John Ryland]

maybe something like this might do the trick:

ls | while read NAME; do mv "$NAME" "`echo $NAME | tr [A-Z] [a-z]`"; done

(It works from my bash shell, I can't see why it won't work from other shells 
too)

Regards
John


On Monday 20 November 2000 16:44, Alister Waller wrote:
> hi,
>
> I need to convert lowercase filenames to uppercase.
> its actually on a SCO box so something kinda generic would be nice.
>
> regards
>
>
>
> Alister Waller (B. Comp)
> Technical Consultant - Roadtech Systems Ltd
> Phone: 02 98073516 Fax: 02 98085294
> www.roadtechsystems.com.au


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Re: [SLUG] memory usage monitoring

[Arunava Sen]

Alister Waller wrote:

> Whats a good way/tool for monitoring memory usage and the processes that are
> using it?

I use "top" or "gtop". They should come with redhat 6.2.

Arun



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[SLUG] covert lowercase to uppercase.

[Alister Waller]

hi,

I need to convert lowercase filenames to uppercase.
its actually on a SCO box so something kinda generic would be nice.

regards



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Phone: 02 98073516 Fax: 02 98085294
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Re: [SLUG] memory usage monitoring

[John Ryland]

I generally use "top". Might not be as fine grain as you are after.
(I think there is also xtop, ktop etc)

Regards
John


On Monday 20 November 2000 15:40, Alister Waller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Whats a good way/tool for monitoring memory usage and the processes that
> are using it?
>
> redhat 6.2
>
> regards
>
>
> Alister Waller (B. Comp)
> Technical Consultant - Roadtech Systems Ltd
> Phone: 02 98073516 Fax: 02 98085294
> www.roadtechsystems.com.au


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[SLUG] network security fest update - more speakers needed!

[David Kempe]

Hey sluggers,
Just an update on the network security fest.

Registrations are over!!! We definitely have enough people. Anyone else from
now on will not be able to come. Sorry, but we are well over the initial
target.
We are short on speakers tho! So the only way to get a spot now is to speak
on something.
Currently some appropriate topics suggested for speakers:
Firewalling, Application Vulnerabilities, Recovering from intrusion,
Intrusion detection and monitoring,

Most other things are covered, however we welcome any and all speakers :)
Also, we may need to borrow a trailer to transport the chairs, if anyone has
access to a trailer for Saturday morning we would love to talk to you.

Other than that, everything is on track for a great forum. If anyone has
anymore questions, please mail me.

Thanks,

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[SLUG] memory usage monitoring

[Alister Waller]

Hi,

Whats a good way/tool for monitoring memory usage and the processes that are
using it?

redhat 6.2

regards


Alister Waller (B. Comp)
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Phone: 02 98073516 Fax: 02 98085294
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Re: [SLUG] turning an LP into a CD - undex Linux?

[Arunava Sen]

Brad Thomson wrote:

> I haven't tried it yet, but unearthed Gramofile, which sounds like you're
> after. I'd be interested in knowing how you go, if you try it.

Me too. Please keep us posted with your results.

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] turning an LP into a CD - undex Linux?

[Brad Thomson]

On Monday 20 November 2000 07:48, you wrote:
>
> Does anyone know a method that can be used to turn an LP record into a CD
> which can be played on an ordinary CD player?

I haven't tried it yet, but unearthed Gramofile, which sounds like you're 
after. I'd be interested in knowing how you go, if you try it.

http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile/

> It's very inconvenient to play an LP in the car, and I've got a couple I
> {well, SWMBO wants anyway!} to turn into CD's so we can stick them into
> the the car CD for long trips.

My car won't play anything but pressed CDs, hope you have better luck.

Brad.

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[SLUG] Meeting Subject Ideas

[Craige McWhirter]

Nothing particularly special and it may have already been suggested 
and I missed it but what about a reasonably regular slot dedicated 
to "My Favourtite Distro?"?

There are so many out now it's quite difficult for the average 
punter to see/research all of them. If we could put aside a 30min 
(for arguments sake) slot for someone to speak/demonstrate the 
pros/cons of "their favourite distro" without having to resort to 
bashing other distro's it would be quite useful and in somecases, 
eye opening.

I'm sure we can find more than enough distro's/users to fill more 
than 6 months worth of slots, at which point we could start the 
cycle again as no doubt the playing field will have adjusted 
significantly.

This kind of regular segment would probably prove quite useful / 
attractive to the Linux newbie/curious.

Thoughts?

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[SLUG] InfraRed Controllers

[Steven downing]

Any Sluggers out there using Infrared with Linux?
I'm getting a new motherboard and I noticed it sports an Infrared port (HPSIR or ASKIR 
or FasterIR), and since the only reason I'm really upgrading is for better MP3 support 
(I never did fix that floating point error problem, it was the camel that broke the 
straws back as far as deciding I needed to upgrade a bit), I thought I'd ask if anyone 
had some experience with these devices..
I guess it'll mainly be used as a remote into Freeamp or xmms, so what I really need 
to start with is an idea of what/where to get a receiver/transceiver that works with 
Linux...
Also, anyone got the Xfree 4.0.1 deb's (and all dependencies needed to upgrade from 
Potato) on a Cd they could lend/sell, as the machine only has 'sneakernet' access 
currently.

thanks
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[SLUG] permissions, .forward, mx abuse and other tails of horror.

[Mehmet Yousouf]

Hi,
Interesting thing happened on our home gateway/mailserver
I noticed in the maillogs that our system was sending out mail with no
 information killed sendmail and removed the mail from the mail
queue (kept one for the headers) restarted and after a while samething
happened. some of the mail being refused by the other end with
"unknown user" information. I had relay rules set to only relay from our
network so I thought spoofing? I looked through the maillogs more closely
and noticed a line saying something like .forward /home/mofet/.forward 
world writeable -one of the user names my kids use - checked permissions
and the directory WAS world writeable! changed it and the problem seems to
have stopped. My son had changed the permissions on the directory to try
and get some cgi to work (also have apache running on it for the kids to
play with). I have removed their accounts from this machine but I am
curious as to how I can periodically check (cron job) file permissions on
all the linux systems at home (3 linux)? Am I correct in my diagnoses/
fix? How could it have been discovered? We are on optus cable.

Regards, Mehmet





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Re: [SLUG] CoLocation

[Marty]

> I would have to be questioning why they are not insisting on up to date
> opsys, esp as RH5.2 has some well known vulnerabilities.

well, if the comment about their clueless techs was on the mark then the
guy writing the policy is hardly going to be up to speed about
vulnerabilities with a specific distro...

later
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Re: [SLUG] CoLocation

[Howard Lowndes]

I would have to be questioning why they are not insisting on up to date
opsys, esp as RH5.2 has some well known vulnerabilities.

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On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Colin Humphreys wrote:

> Their docs state you should have the following:
> 
> Should be RAID 5 configured, with either hardware controller or software
> - Via Operating System or alike
> Operating Systems:
> Windows NT 4.0 Server with Service Pack 4<===
> Sun Solaris 2.6 Server with all required Y2k patches 
> Red Hat Linux 5.2 +  <===
> BSD Unix 2.0 +
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server



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RE: [SLUG] Apache authentication not reading file?

[George Vieira]

Can you try with .htgroup as well as .htpasswd and see if it does the same
thing?

What errors are in the /var/logs/httpd/error.log file or whatever the error
file is if your running virtual hosts

thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:35 PM
To: Mail List - SLUG
Subject: [SLUG] Apache authentication not reading file?


I seem to have a problem getting user authentication to work in Apache.

It appears that even though I have the AuthUserFile pointing to the
correct file, that file is not being accessed by Apache and hence the auth
is failing.

This is the piece out of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:

AuthName "LANNet internal use"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/.htpasswd
require valid-user
Options FollowSymLinks Indexes
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
MetaFiles on
MetaDir .web
MetaSuffix .meta





>From http://lannet.com.au/server-info I get:
   Module Name: mod_auth.c
 
   Content handlers: none
 
   Configuration Phase Participation: Create Directory Config
 
   Request Phase Participation: Verify User ID, Verify User Access
 
   Module Directives:
  AuthUserFile - text file containing user IDs and passwords
  AuthGroupFile - text file containing group names and member
  user IDs
  AuthAuthoritative - Set to 'off' to allow access control to be
  passed along to lower modules if the UserID is not known to
  this module
 
   Current Configuration:
 
   httpd.conf
  
AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/.htpasswd
  




The file exists:
[root@keep httpd]# ls -l /etc/httpd/.htpasswd
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   21 Nov 20 12:20
/etc/httpd/.htpasswd 



but when I try to do a login thru the browser I notice that an ls -lu on
this file shows that the access time does not change which to my mind
tells me that Apache is not reading the file, but I can't see why not.

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[SLUG] Apache authentication not reading file?

[Howard Lowndes]

I seem to have a problem getting user authentication to work in Apache.

It appears that even though I have the AuthUserFile pointing to the
correct file, that file is not being accessed by Apache and hence the auth
is failing.

This is the piece out of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:

AuthName "LANNet internal use"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/.htpasswd
require valid-user
Options FollowSymLinks Indexes
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
MetaFiles on
MetaDir .web
MetaSuffix .meta




>From http://lannet.com.au/server-info I get:
   Module Name: mod_auth.c
 
   Content handlers: none
 
   Configuration Phase Participation: Create Directory Config
 
   Request Phase Participation: Verify User ID, Verify User Access
 
   Module Directives:
  AuthUserFile - text file containing user IDs and passwords
  AuthGroupFile - text file containing group names and member
  user IDs
  AuthAuthoritative - Set to 'off' to allow access control to be
  passed along to lower modules if the UserID is not known to
  this module
 
   Current Configuration:
 
   httpd.conf
  
AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/.htpasswd




The file exists:
[root@keep httpd]# ls -l /etc/httpd/.htpasswd
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   21 Nov 20 12:20
/etc/httpd/.htpasswd 



but when I try to do a login thru the browser I notice that an ls -lu on
this file shows that the access time does not change which to my mind
tells me that Apache is not reading the file, but I can't see why not.

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Re: [SLUG] CoLocation

[Michael Sztachanski]

Colin Humphreys wrote:
> 
> I just stuck a box in at magna data/davnet about half an hour ago
> 
> Their docs state you should have the following:
> 
> Should be RAID 5 configured, with either hardware controller or software
> - Via Operating System or alike
> Operating Systems:
> Windows NT 4.0 Server with Service Pack 4
> Sun Solaris 2.6 Server with all required Y2k patches
> Red Hat Linux 5.2 +
> BSD Unix 2.0 +
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> Yet to find out if the support staff are able to do anything.
> Planing just to use them for power cycling :)
> 
> -Colin
> 
> Marty wrote:
> >
> > hi all
> >
> > just wondering if anyone has anyone has any recommendations / cautions in
> > regard to colocation providers.
> >
> > i'm particulary interested in any observations in regard to how clued up
> > the support staff are with linux.
> >
> > later
> > marty
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You'll find their not too Linux sav!

I suggest that you maintain your box via ssh and just get them to change
you backup tape..

cheers

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Re: [SLUG] CoLocation

[Colin Humphreys]

I just stuck a box in at magna data/davnet about half an hour ago

Their docs state you should have the following:

Should be RAID 5 configured, with either hardware controller or software
- Via Operating System or alike
Operating Systems:
Windows NT 4.0 Server with Service Pack 4
Sun Solaris 2.6 Server with all required Y2k patches 
Red Hat Linux 5.2 +
BSD Unix 2.0 +
Windows 2000 Advanced Server

Yet to find out if the support staff are able to do anything.
Planing just to use them for power cycling :)

-Colin

Marty wrote:
> 
> hi all
> 
> just wondering if anyone has anyone has any recommendations / cautions in
> regard to colocation providers.
> 
> i'm particulary interested in any observations in regard to how clued up
> the support staff are with linux.
> 
> later
> marty
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[SLUG] Rachel there?

[Rick Welykochy]

If Rachel Polaskis reads this message, could she
please email me.

Thanks
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[SLUG] Re: Full Duplex Sound

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Dean Hamstead}
> ALSA was spawned from drivers written for a card
> (name eludes me) to exploit its potential more fully.

the authors are all from the gravis ultrasound project

since the GUS (you see, i just had to get one) was one
of the first cards to have wavetable stuff, etc. the
OSS interface (simple audio streams) just wasn't good enough.

alsa is sort of a more general rewrite. comes with a libalsa, so
user programs are easier to write.

> ALSA isnt a kernel patch.

kernel modules

> If the ALSA team hasnt sent a patch then i dont
> see it going in.

i heard rumours the sound was going to be overhauled in 2.5

there was talk of either using alsa or doing a new one from scratch.
i'm thinking they go with alsa.

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[SLUG] Re: Full Duplex Sound

[Angus Lees]

\begin{John Ferlito}
>   Anyone know of a sound app that will let me record something and
> play it back at the same time so that I can monitor it?

there's a new whizzbang app called tee(1).

 tee record.raw /dev/dsp

if you look hard enough, some miguided gui person has probably even written
a [kgqx]tee

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[SLUG] Re: nfs locking

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Michael and Louise Hosemans}
> I am trying to get nfs locking working, but it does not seem to want to
> work for me. 

> ANd I have the following daemons running on both Machines
> portmapper, nfs, nfslock, 

> But record looking is not working - when it tries to lock
> I get the message on Machine A
> lockd: failed to monitor 192.168.1.200 - which is the IP address off
> Machine B

you need statd and lockd daemons running. i have no idea what "nfslock"
starts

also, if this is an "enterprise" situation, i'd also get the nfs patches
from nfs.sourceforge.net (or get 2.2.18pre)

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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Arunava Sen]

James Wilkinson wrote:

> This one time, at band camp, Arunava Sen said:
>
> Are you using DRI from the kernel?  If so, what kernel version, and what
> patches if any did you apply? (urls as well, please)

Nah sorry, the lame nvidia propreitary drivers. :-(
kernel 2.2.17

Arun



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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Terry Collins]

Crossfire wrote:
>
> Hopefully somebody will backport this new OpenGL driver back to Windows so
> more windows people can get into UT seriously.  Apart from that, UT performs

Does this sort of post belong on the SLUG list?

I think not. It is not Linux and we don't do MS bashing?

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Re: [SLUG] IDE for C programming -Was Linux Unreal_Tournament.

[Arunava Sen]

Aaron Binns wrote:

> Another question: what IDE's (integrated development environments) come
> recommended from the list for use under helix gnome for C programming? Right now
> I am using gcc, make and an unspecified text editor program (no flames please
> :P~ ).

I asked this question a while ago. Lots of people replied with suggestions and I
tried most of them. Not the commercial ones, of course. Basically I didnt like any
of them better than the gcc/Vim/make combination. I reckon if you have been using
it, then you will perform best using that combo.

But if you *really* want an IDE the (IMHO) the only one that was half-decent was
CodeCrusader, an opensource version of MetroWerk's CodeWarrior (and has more
features, I believe). The homepage listed in freshmeat seems to be down but the
download pages are still working.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/codecrusader/?highlight=codecrusader

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[SLUG] CoLocation

[Marty]

hi all

just wondering if anyone has anyone has any recommendations / cautions in
regard to colocation providers.

i'm particulary interested in any observations in regard to how clued up
the support staff are with linux.

later
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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Aaron Binns]

I have a geforce card in my home pc, and while I dont yet have the drivers to
use it correctly under linux, I can get framerates of up to 160fps in Ut under
winXX at 1280x1024. The strange thing is that while I cannot get higher than
this resolution in winXX I can get up to 1600x1200 in linux.. and this isnt the
nvidia geforce drivers either.

Strange... but kewl :)

Another question: what IDE's (integrated development environments) come
recommended from the list for use under helix gnome for C programming? Right now
I am using gcc, make and an unspecified text editor program (no flames please
:P~ ).

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Re: [SLUG] Security thingy... I can't remember its name

[Gareth Walters]

Thanks! 

tripwire is the thing I was after.


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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Crossfire]

This says more about the ability of the GeForce when handled properly.

I've seen the GeForce hit [calculated] framerates over 80fps in Quake3 with
full detail turned on under 'doze, at most resolutions [I think I saw it up
to 1280x1024 - I don't own new enough a machine to run a GeForce - heck, I'm
still using a Riva128 PCI and a Voodoo2].

Unreal Tournament had really dodgey drivers for DirectX and OpenGL, hence
why Glide cards are recommended above all else.

UnrealTournament was seriously underrated due to such performance issues.
Hopefully somebody will backport this new OpenGL driver back to Windows so
more windows people can get into UT seriously.  Apart from that, UT performs
admirably on my P233MMX, even under Linux.  Just my good soundcard only
works under Windows. :/  I'm saving up to replace the bugger.  [No, don't
suggest ALSA.  The card in question is unlikely to be supported by any other
OS at all].

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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:14 AM
Subject: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.


> I had been following the progress of Linux UT though. Apparently, after
> Lokigames took control of the maintenance of the linux code, the linux
> OpenGL renderer was written almost from scratch cos the windows one was
> such a dodgy hack. Anyway, I got UT working in linux yesterday. Xfree
> 4.0.1, Nvidia Geforce, nvidia drivers. I am pleased to say that UT
> totally SCREAMS on my Geforce in Linux, now. 1600x1200 everything to max
> (but 16bit color) I get 47-60 fps while running around levels. In
> windows, I remember getting between 12 and 30 in 1024x768.
>
> I dont know if the windows UT has improved much, but if it hasn't then
> this would have to be the first time a Linux game outperforms its
> windows version, outright. This is ridiculous how fast UT plays.




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Re: [SLUG] Security thingy... I can't remember its name

[Marty]

> I was looking into this quite a while ago in another job and have
> forgotten the name of the program or whatever it is, maybe there is more
> than one around now.
> 
> It was a thing that checked for changes on the filesystem and the
> recomendations were to keep it on a read-only filesystem (like a floppy) so
> that no one could fiddle with it. It ran from cron job and told you if
> something on the filesystem was different and then asked you if you wanted
> to add the changes.

tripwire ?

later
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[SLUG] Security thingy... I can't remember its name

[Gareth Walters]

G'day all,
I was looking into this quite a while ago in another job and have
forgotten the name of the program or whatever it is, maybe there is more
than one around now.

It was a thing that checked for changes on the filesystem and the
recomendations were to keep it on a read-only filesystem (like a floppy) so
that no one could fiddle with it. It ran from cron job and told you if
something on the filesystem was different and then asked you if you wanted
to add the changes.

Anyone heard of something like this?


TIA



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Re: [SLUG] turning an LP into a CD - undex Linux?

[Terry Collins]

DaZZa wrote:
> 
> Slightly OT, but I _do_ want to do this under Linux, so... :-)
> 
> Does anyone know a method that can be used to turn an LP record into a CD
> which can be played on an ordinary CD player?

When I asked about sound recording before, I recieved this response

http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug/1999/199909/msg00908.html

...snip...

For a GUI interface, Sound Studio isn't too bad... I think its basically
a Tcl/Tk interface to sox. Have a look on Freshmeat.

Matthew

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Re: [SLUG] turning an LP into a CD - undex Linux?

[Terry Collins]

David Fisher wrote:

> If anybody was going to make any off-list replies to DaZZa on this
> could they cc me please.

On list please. It is to be done under Linux and similar questions get
asked occassionally.

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Re: [SLUG] Voice Modems

[Jamie Honan]

>Basically what I want to be able to do is call a voicemail
>system and get my linux box to dial the appropriate digits to step
>through the voicemail tree and retrieve the messages by recording them
>via the voice modem some how.

This should be entirely possible. There is a package called
'calltree', which could be in limbo, which has some state-machine
stuff, which may make this easy to do.

Also vgetty, part of mgetty.

If you do look for calltree and can't find it, let me know
and I can send a copy. (Please look first, though - e.g. google).

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Re: [SLUG] turning an LP into a CD - undex Linux?

[David Fisher]

> 
> Does anyone know a method that can be used to turn an LP record into a CD
> which can be played on an ordinary CD player?

Can I add a "me too" to this.

If anybody was going to make any off-list replies to DaZZa on this 
could they cc me please.

David



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[SLUG] turning an LP into a CD - undex Linux?

[DaZZa]

Slightly OT, but I _do_ want to do this under Linux, so... :-)

Does anyone know a method that can be used to turn an LP record into a CD
which can be played on an ordinary CD player?

It's very inconvenient to play an LP in the car, and I've got a couple I
{well, SWMBO wants anyway!} to turn into CD's so we can stick them into
the the car CD for long trips.

What equiptment would I need, and what software would do the job under
Linux, 'cause I'm stuffed if I want to install Evilware just to do this!

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[SLUG] Making a copy of all mail passing through Sendmail

[Richard Ames]

We would like to write a copy of all messages passing through our mail
server to a file.  We will then process the file with a archiver (mohnarc)
to build a html based archieve.

The procmailrc I have conjured up is:

[root@trout mailstore]# cat procmailrc-dev
MAILDIR=/usr/richard/mailstore  # You'd better make sure it exists
LOGFILE=/usr/richard/mailstore/procmail_logfile
VERBOSE=yes
###LOGABSTRACT=all

FOLDER=`date +%Y%m%d`
DUMMY=`test -d $FOLDER || mkdir $FOLDER`

:0c
${FOLDER}

[root@trout mailstore]#

Which works fine when installed as /etc/procmailrc --- only for mail
delivered locally.

How do I get sendmail to call it for all mail  I presume sendmail Rule
Set 0, but I am unsure of the syntax.

TIA,

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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh said:

>Same card here, etc. (We've been through this before!)

:)

>I'm pretty sure that CVS XF4.0.1 supports DRM 2... You can always try. Me,
>I haven't played games for ages, so I can wait for pretty Armagetron and
>Tuxracer eyecandy. :)

Ok, q3a can wait.  I've got XMAME installed, and some good roms, and
these run quick enough without the hardware support.

This is probably a good thing, so I actually study for these coming
exams.

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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Dean Hamstead]

Glide in x3.3.6... get a voodoo 3 =P

If only glide 2 would be ported to x4 *grrr*

Dean

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I've tried 2.4.0-test9 (and the reiserfs patch for the same) with the
> > Matrox DRM and agpgart features
> 
> *sniffle*
> 
> Same card here, etc. (We've been through this before!)
> 
> I like my new fresh X, and my kernels even fresher. But sometimes, the love
> just ain't there. :(
> 
> The 2.4.0-test9> all have DRM version 2.1, whilst the current XF4.0.1 debs
> only support the earlier 1.0 (I think the .1 may be around the other way,
> neverthe less, they're not happy with each other).
> 
> > , and XFree 4.0.1 blacks the screen and
> > steals the consol, but doesn't lock up (I can ssh in and kill the X process
> > and the console works fine).
> 
> Erk. Mine doesn't even try! :)
> 
> > XFree 4.0.1 works fine from kernel 2.2.17.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that CVS XF4.0.1 supports DRM 2... You can always try. Me,
> I haven't played games for ages, so I can wait for pretty Armagetron and
> Tuxracer eyecandy. :)
> 
> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] Full Duplex Sound

[Dean Hamstead]

Whats in the kernel is OSS/Free
which is like a clone of OSS i think in GPL
as OSS is on like a gazillion OS's... well maybe
a handful. Its a standard (kinda).

ALSA was spawned from drivers written for a card
(name eludes me) to exploit its potential more fully.

ALSA isnt a kernel patch. I dont know how portable it
is (architecture wise) and items only go into the 
kernel if they are submitted for syncing.

If the ALSA team hasnt sent a patch then i dont
see it going in.

I was going to say alsa has a whole lot of utils
and libs but then i realized so does networking,
filesystems,oss,video4linux and just about everything 
else.

Dean

James Wilkinson wrote:
> 
> This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy said:
> 
> >Another option is to
> >use full-duplex drivers like ALSA (http://www.alsa-project.org).
> 
> Does anyone know what the deal is with the sound drivers in the kernel?
> The so-called Open Sound System is far from open, and ALSA seems to
> do much better than OSS.  I'm wondering if anyone knows of any plans to
> scrap OSS and replace it with ALSA, or if ALSA will remain a separate
> module.
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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Jeff Waugh]

> I've tried 2.4.0-test9 (and the reiserfs patch for the same) with the 
> Matrox DRM and agpgart features


*sniffle*

Same card here, etc. (We've been through this before!)

I like my new fresh X, and my kernels even fresher. But sometimes, the love
just ain't there. :(

The 2.4.0-test9> all have DRM version 2.1, whilst the current XF4.0.1 debs
only support the earlier 1.0 (I think the .1 may be around the other way,
neverthe less, they're not happy with each other).


> , and XFree 4.0.1 blacks the screen and 
> steals the consol, but doesn't lock up (I can ssh in and kill the X process 
> and the console works fine).


Erk. Mine doesn't even try! :)


> XFree 4.0.1 works fine from kernel 2.2.17.


I'm pretty sure that CVS XF4.0.1 supports DRM 2... You can always try. Me,
I haven't played games for ages, so I can wait for pretty Armagetron and
Tuxracer eyecandy. :)

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Re: [SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Arunava Sen said:

>Anyway, I got UT working in linux yesterday. Xfree
>4.0.1, Nvidia Geforce, nvidia drivers. I am pleased to say that UT
>totally SCREAMS on my Geforce in Linux, now. 1600x1200 everything to max
>(but 16bit color) I get 47-60 fps while running around levels. In
>windows, I remember getting between 12 and 30 in 1024x768.

Are you using DRI from the kernel?  If so, what kernel version, and what 
patches if any did you apply? (urls as well, please)

I've tried 2.4.0-test9 (and the reiserfs patch for the same) with the 
Matrox DRM and agpgart features, and XFree 4.0.1 blacks the screen and 
steals the consol, but doesn't lock up (I can ssh in and kill the X process 
and the console works fine).

XFree 4.0.1 works fine from kernel 2.2.17.

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Re: [SLUG] Full Duplex Sound

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy said:

>Another option is to
>use full-duplex drivers like ALSA (http://www.alsa-project.org).

Does anyone know what the deal is with the sound drivers in the kernel?
The so-called Open Sound System is far from open, and ALSA seems to
do much better than OSS.  I'm wondering if anyone knows of any plans to
scrap OSS and replace it with ALSA, or if ALSA will remain a separate
module.

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[SLUG] [rant] Linux Unreal_Tournament is unbelieveable.

[Arunava Sen]

Hello,



Just got Linux Unreal Tournament working with my Geforce.

Bit of background. I was given the Unreal Tournament game a while ago.
Back then it only worked with 3dfx cards (in linux), so I had installed
Evil98 on this computer till  finished the game. I totally loved it but
couldnt justify having windows around just for that. So the cd went into
hibernation.
Also, the windows one seemed *much* less optimised for Geforces etc.
than say Quake3A. Later I found out that this was because of a dodgy
OpenGl renderer since UT only had a decent Glide renderer.

I had been following the progress of Linux UT though. Apparently, after
Lokigames took control of the maintenance of the linux code, the linux
OpenGL renderer was written almost from scratch cos the windows one was
such a dodgy hack. Anyway, I got UT working in linux yesterday. Xfree
4.0.1, Nvidia Geforce, nvidia drivers. I am pleased to say that UT
totally SCREAMS on my Geforce in Linux, now. 1600x1200 everything to max
(but 16bit color) I get 47-60 fps while running around levels. In
windows, I remember getting between 12 and 30 in 1024x768.

I dont know if the windows UT has improved much, but if it hasn't then
this would have to be the first time a Linux game outperforms its
windows version, outright. This is ridiculous how fast UT plays.

Oh also the windows one is an *extremely* slow level loader. The
linux version loads levels in less than 2 seconds per level (timed with
stopwatch). Way to go tux!!!



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Re: [SLUG] Needed: packet sniffer

[Anand Kumria]

On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 02:22:04AM -0800, Alex JuniorBurger wrote:
> Hi,
>  in studying a network protocol, I am in need of a
> text-based packet sniffer for linux that, given an
> already existing socket connection, can display data
> packets (ie. no tcp headers) in hex and ascii.
> Ideally, output would look like:
> 
> ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff
> ascii_text_here_

The newest versions of tcpdump can do this for you.

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Re: [SLUG] Uninstalling a Perl module.

[Michael Lake]

Hi All,

> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Michael Lake wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I have installed lots of Perl modules with "perl Makefile.PL, make, make
> > test and make install" but want to remove some of these. A"man perl"
> > refers me to a "man perlmodinstall" which covers installing but not
> > uninstalling. There are perl files put in many places and surely there
> > must be a standard way to remove a complete module?

James Morris wrote: 
> It's a bit messy, but type 'make uninstall' from where you built the
> package, and read the warnings about possibly needing to manually remove
> files.

Thanks. Yes there is an uninstall, it was in "Makefile". I did that and
it lets
me know where to manually remove things from.
Eg.

Apache-DBILogin-1.6:# make uninstall
unlink /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Apache/DBILogin.pm
unlink /usr/share/man/man3/Apache::DBILogin.3pm
unlink
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i586-linux/auto/Apache/DBILogin/.packlist

Uninstall is deprecated. Please check the packlist above carefully.
  There may be errors. Remove the appropriate files manually.
  Sorry for the inconveniences.

Well it seems like one is not normally supposed to remove Perl modules
often :-)

Thanks for the help.
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[SLUG] Needed: packet sniffer

[Alex JuniorBurger]

Hi,
 in studying a network protocol, I am in need of a
text-based packet sniffer for linux that, given an
already existing socket connection, can display data
packets (ie. no tcp headers) in hex and ascii.
Ideally, output would look like:

ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff
ascii_text_here_

all on one line (similar to OTSessionWatcher for
MacOS, if anyone is familiar with that).

Thanks,
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Re: [SLUG] Full Duplex Sound

[Peter Hardy]

On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 07:46:33PM +1100, John Ferlito wrote:
> 
>   Anyone know of a sound app that will let me record something and
> play it back at the same time so that I can monitor it?

You should keep in mind that most of the standard Linux drivers cannot do
full duplex.  Esound and esd provide a work-around.  Another option is to
use full-duplex drivers like ALSA (http://www.alsa-project.org).

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Re: [SLUG] Full Duplex Sound

[Tom Massey]

John Ferlito wrote:
> 
> Anyone know of a sound app that will let me record something and
> play it back at the same time so that I can monitor it?

May be a bit overkill depending on what you're doing, but I've found
Broadcast2000  to be the
best app for all types of audio editing.


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Re: [SLUG] Full Duplex Sound

[Peter]

esound should do this.

John Ferlito wrote:
> 
> Anyone know of a sound app that will let me record something and
> play it back at the same time so that I can monitor it?


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[SLUG] Full Duplex Sound

[John Ferlito]

Anyone know of a sound app that will let me record something and
play it back at the same time so that I can monitor it?

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