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Re: [SLUG] MacOS CD = 8.5

[Craige McWhirter]

David, can you email me your address again so I can send your CD back?

Thanks again for that too. I made two copies for safe keeping :)

Thus spake David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 
 I have os9... give me a call... 0418 310312
 
 On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 
  No, it's not off topic, honestly. I was trying to do the "impossible",
  run Linux on an "old-world" Mac without a MacOS partition or BootX. Well I
  paid handsomely for that and it now appears the MacOS cd's have walked. 
  
  Joy.
  
  I was hoping, that some kind soul out there may have a copy of MacOS =
  8.5 (but not X) that I may use today, in the CBD.

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Re: [SLUG] MacOS CD = 8.5

[Jeff Waugh]

quote who="David"

 are you announcing to the entire geek community that you duplicate
 copyright material? ;-)

http://zgp.org/~dmarti/linuxmanship/#issueslist

Especially the section under "License Compliance". In fact, read the whole
bloody thing - it's not often you read such a sane mix of Free Software,
activism, hackerish banter and marketing all on the one page.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: cfengine

[Herbert Xu]

Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i've used cfengine for exactly that purpose for quite a while, and
 have been intending to give a talk on it for ~8months now.

Personally I prefer a layered "meta" package approach.  Now if only every
Debian package repsected the sanctity of configuration files as they must...
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[SLUG] Lost RPM database

[Bernhard Lüder]

Hi,

I have lost my RPM database, it seems.

When I then do:

rpm -qa

I get nothing. No output.

And any other query will also get nothing.

What is the easiest way to get one's RPM data base back?
I have tried:
rpm --initdb
rpm --rebuild

but when I then do again:

rpm -qa

Still nothing. No output.

And any other query will also still get nothing.

What can I do?
If I run an upgrade from the CD will that give me back the database?

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Re: [SLUG] Re: cfengine

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Herbert Xu said:
Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i've used cfengine for exactly that purpose for quite a while, and
 have been intending to give a talk on it for ~8months now.

Personally I prefer a layered "meta" package approach.  Now if only every
Debian package repsected the sanctity of configuration files as they must...

Erm, how does a package one one system get the configuration from
another to respect said sanctity of the package?  It looks like i can
deploy configurations from the cfengine master, and that is what I am
looking for; rather than sshing to n machines and editing the same line
on all of them manually.

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Re: [SLUG] MySql question

[Simon Bryan]

OK, Samba to the rescue with the copy, but could not get the new database 
recognised by the mysql server, regardless of mysqladmin, refresh, flush, 
reload. However when I stop and start the server it works!

At 14:28 9/04/2001, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 02:15:33PM +1000, Simon Bryan said:
-- mine complains about the mysql#, am I reading that too literally?
Hey Simon,

Ahh, sorry the first bit was just the shell prompt.. :)
from the /var/lib/mysql directory, run:

scp -r oldserver:/var/lib/mysql/dbname ./

MySql just stores each database in it's own directory inside 
/var/lib/mysql, with a separate couple of files (index, data, etc) for 
each table, so you can just copy the directory across to another machine, 
and it works fine..  That's assuming you've got ssh access on both 
machines.. - otherwise you'll have to tar up the directory, ftp it across 
or something, and un-tar it on the other side..

Hope this helps :)

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Re: [SLUG] just one of those days... php related question..

[Del]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I link to it with the variable image, I want the variable image to be
 subbed for a image inside a img src="images/$image" line inside blah.php
 script.

You may want:

img src="images/?php echo $image; ?"

Del

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[SLUG] Moving a userbase

[Simon Bryan]

Hi,
I have several hundred users on a SuSe 7 system, I need to replicate that 
list of users on a RH7 system. Can I just copy the passwd and shadow file 
to the new system? I know I will still have to setup the user directories 
and may just use the passwd file to generate a text list of user names and 
use that with a script I have to create the users. Just want to evaluate 
all options.



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Re: [SLUG] just one of those days... php related question..

[michaelf]

I did this;

?
echo "img src=\"images/$image\"";
?

Which does the samething :) thanks

 
 When I link to it with the variable image, I want the variable image
 to be subbed for a image inside a img src="images/$image" line
 inside blah.php script.
 
 You may want:
 
 img src="images/?php echo $image; ?"
 
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[SLUG] Preventing module from being cleaned

[Ian Ward]

Hi All,

I have VTUN operating between three servers, it works great.

It needs the tun.o module loaded.  Unfortunately, it does not do this
itself.

This is fine, as I load the module and kick off vtund in rc.local

If there is a prelonged time when there is no tunnel up, the tun.o module is
cleaned out of the kernel.

How can I tell the kernel not to clean out an unused module?

looking at man modules.conf mentions "keep" but I do not think this is
related to this.

TIA Ian


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[SLUG] Mac OS, basiliskii

[Nick Croft]

Has any of the sluggers who retain an interest in the mac os
managed to get basiliskii working, to emulate 68k macs up to 8.1
(iirc)?

You need getROM, which is not distributed with basiliskii. And
to use getROM you have to own a 68k mac.

Can anyone point me in the direstion of getROM ? I've got a mac iivx.

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[SLUG] Re: Re: cfengine

[Angus Lees]

\begin{James Wilkinson}
 This one time, at band camp, Herbert Xu said:
 Personally I prefer a layered "meta" package approach.  Now if only every
 Debian package repsected the sanctity of configuration files as they must...
 
 Erm, how does a package one one system get the configuration from
 another to respect said sanctity of the package?  It looks like i can
 deploy configurations from the cfengine master, and that is what I am
 looking for; rather than sshing to n machines and editing the same line
 on all of them manually.

debconf (in woody) can "inherit" package configuration from a central
machine. ifaik, it currently works using an nfs-shared config tree - a
client/server method is awaiting volunteers ;)

this is only good for package installation. you still need to install
the packages in the first place, modify files outside debconf scope
(such as hardcore MTA configs), monitor processes, set file
permissions, check available disk space, check NFS mounts, etc.


what is needed is:

1. a rewrite of cfengine to clean up the variable scoping mess, and
the nasty way the editfiles commands work.

2. some addition to cfengine to support "packages" - ideally in a
vendor-independent manner. so eg: a cfengine "class" is defined if the
package containing a particular program is installed, and a
vendor-indpendent way to ask for said package to be installed or
removed. afaics, the existing cfengine "plugin" mechanism isn't up to
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Re: [SLUG] Preventing module from being cleaned

[peter]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:09:37AM +1000, Ian Ward wrote:
*snip*
 How can I tell the kernel not to clean out an unused module?

Which distribution?

If you're modprobe-ing a module by hand, the kernel won't unload it.
Alot of distros set up a cron job to unload modules that aren't being used.
You may want to look in root's crontab and adjust/disable it..

HTH,
Peter

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[SLUG] Re: Mac OS, basiliskii

[Craige McWhirter]

I use MacOS soley to boot into Debian on my old world Macs. I view my
100meg MacOS pratition as a bloated boot manager.

Sorry.

I also have no idea of what basiliskii is, so I can't help there. Have
you tried Google?

Thus spake Nick Croft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Has any of the sluggers who retain an interest in the mac os
 managed to get basiliskii working, to emulate 68k macs up to 8.1
 (iirc)?
 
 You need getROM, which is not distributed with basiliskii. And
 to use getROM you have to own a 68k mac.
 
 Can anyone point me in the direstion of getROM ? I've got a mac iivx.

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[SLUG] Re: X authorization error messages

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Peter Rundle}
 I've just installed Debian on a VMware virtual machine, and I'm
 trying to get it to run X. So I installed the packages and the 
 xdm login screen comes up no problems. When I try to log in 
 however it appears to accept my username etc but then it just
 throws me back out. In the users .xsession-errors file there are 
 messages like, 
 
   Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by the server
   Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
   /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker fatal error:could not open Display ":0"

you already have :0 running, try another display:
 startx -- :1

 If I kill off X and xdm and log in as root on the console and
 then do a "startx", no problems. A normal user however cannot
 startx, it just flicks up then dies.

also: see /etc/X11/Xserver for who can start an X server

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Re: [SLUG] Mac OS, basiliskii

[David]

I'm sorry, I've never heard of Basil. To be honest, I've never needed to
emulate 68k programs, and I still successfully run several of them on
G3's. 

OTOH, is anyone trying to run mac OSX/Linux networks? I'm about to attempt
that, and wondered if others are doing it, thinking about it, or know of
any problems with it.

David.

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Nick Croft wrote:

 Has any of the sluggers who retain an interest in the mac os
 managed to get basiliskii working, to emulate 68k macs up to 8.1
 (iirc)?
 
 You need getROM, which is not distributed with basiliskii. And
 to use getROM you have to own a 68k mac.
 
 Can anyone point me in the direstion of getROM ? I've got a mac iivx.
 
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[SLUG] Re: Preventing module from being cleaned

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Ian Ward}
 I have VTUN operating between three servers, it works great.
 
 It needs the tun.o module loaded.  Unfortunately, it does not do this
 itself.
 
 This is fine, as I load the module and kick off vtund in rc.local
 
 If there is a prelonged time when there is no tunnel up, the tun.o module is
 cleaned out of the kernel.

best is to fix it so it autoloads properly.

if you run vtund without the tun.o module loaded, are there any
"can't find module xxx" modprobe/kerneld messages in the logs?

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Re: [SLUG] Mac OS, basiliskii

[Nick Croft]

Looks nice, TongMaster !
N
PS found getROM, wasn't around last time I looked.


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[SLUG] FYI: Progeny 1.0 Out

[Craige McWhirter]

Announcement: http://www.progeny.com/

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Re: [SLUG] FYI: Progeny 1.0 Out

[Craige McWhirter]

They only appear to support i386. They won't be getting my patronage :/

Thus spake Craige McWhirter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Announcement: http://www.progeny.com/

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Re: [SLUG] FYI: Progeny 1.0 Out

[Rob B]

Although they are calling for Debian Developers with experience in 
non-Intel systems.

As an aside ... What arch are you running?

Cheers,
Rob

At 13:14 10/04/2001, Craige McWhirter wrote:
They only appear to support i386. They won't be getting my patronage :/

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Re: cfengine

[Herbert Xu]

James Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Erm, how does a package one one system get the configuration from
 another to respect said sanctity of the package?  It looks like i can

You can put all the configuration files into a local package and make
sure that it is always the first to be upgraded.
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Re: [SLUG] FYI: Progeny 1.0 Out

[Craige McWhirter]

i386, SPARC, PPC

As servers and desktops.

Thus spake Rob B ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Although they are calling for Debian Developers with experience in 
 non-Intel systems.
 
 As an aside ... What arch are you running?

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[SLUG] Weird record in ipchains log.

[Jobst Schmalenbach]

afternoon all,

I have the telnet port open in IPCHAINS but hosts.allow lets only a 
few connect and the rest gets "send" to hosts.deny.

BUT now I saw a weird entry in my logs:

Apr 10 00:21:21 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
203.161.231.1:1532 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=49912 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#33) 
Apr 10 00:21:24 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
203.161.231.1:1532 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=50325 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#33) 
Apr 10 00:38:19 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 163.29.17.77:1316 
203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=38154 F=0x4000 T=46 SYN (#33) 

and as you can see its from different machines too!


Can anybody please shed some light on this one?



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Re: [SLUG] Weird record in ipchains log.

[CaT]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:20:09PM +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
 afternoon all,
 
 I have the telnet port open in IPCHAINS but hosts.allow lets only a 
 few connect and the rest gets "send" to hosts.deny.
 
 BUT now I saw a weird entry in my logs:
 
 Apr 10 00:21:21 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
203.161.231.1:1532 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=49912 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#33) 
 Apr 10 00:21:24 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
203.161.231.1:1532 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=50325 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#33) 
 Apr 10 00:38:19 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
163.29.17.77:1316 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=38154 F=0x4000 T=46 SYN (#33) 
 
 and as you can see its from different machines too!

I'm lost. What's weird about it?

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Re: [SLUG] Weird record in ipchains log.

[Jobst Schmalenbach]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:27:19PM +1000, CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:20:09PM +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
  afternoon all,
  
  I have the telnet port open in IPCHAINS but hosts.allow lets only a 
  few connect and the rest gets "send" to hosts.deny.
  
  BUT now I saw a weird entry in my logs:
  
  Apr 10 00:21:21 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
203.161.231.1:1532 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=49912 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#33) 
  Apr 10 00:21:24 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
203.161.231.1:1532 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=50325 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#33) 
  Apr 10 00:38:19 piquet kernel: Packet log: ppp0-in DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 
163.29.17.77:1316 203.63.73.52:53 L=60 S=0x10 I=38154 F=0x4000 T=46 SYN (#33) 
  
  and as you can see its from different machines too!
 
 I'm lost. What's weird about it?


Nothing.

standing in corner all red faced

I should go home and have a long long rest.

telnet 23 != domain 53

I thought its telnet, I spend about 1 hour trying to figure out
were that packet was coming from. 
(this is my upstream nameserver asking my nameserver what IP is what).



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