Re: [SLUG] Re: Interesting ICAAN Quote
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 07:11, Angus Lees wrote:
\begin{Jon Biddell}
What lawyers call intellectual property is -- as every Latin student
knows -- no more than theft from the public domain.
-- Andy Mueller-Maguhn, newly elected ICANN board member for Europe.
i don't get the latin student bit.
Hey, neither did I The only Latin I can remember fro High School (yeah,
I'm *old*) was Digitus Extractum, which I'll leave to you to decipher...:-)
Oh, there was Nil Bastardus Carborundum Decendus as well
(Don't let the bastards grind you down)
Jon
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Re: [SLUG] Email client recommendations
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:50, Laurie Savage wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Steven Blunt wrote: :You can set up a local SMTP server which will hold mail until you next :connect to the net. I'm fairly sure sendmail does this by default. How do I do this? What server do I stipulate in the SMTP field? Hi Laurie, 'tis tres simple. In email-program-of-choice, specify your server IP address (or DNS name if you're running DNS/hosts file) as the POP3 and SMTP addresses... i.e. My server collects mail from fl.net.au for jon and jill and stores them locally as jon and jill. We then log on using our respective workstations and collect it. You need fetchmail to do the fetching, and sendmail to do the sending. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Document Management Systems
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Jill Rowling wrote: I spoke with one of Tower's employees some time ago and they actually recommend that it run on a Unix of some sort, rather than NT. But their marketing Dept only say that it runs on NT because that's what the PHBs (customers) have been asking for. 'Course the customer's engineers know better, but the PHBs have the purse strings and the engineers don't! The TRIM user interface only runs on Windows clients (or something which is win32 compliant). There is a middleware server layer which also has to run on a win32 host (the workgroup and the master servers, which deal with business logic and caching). The document store can run on anything (include DOS file systems, SMB / CIFS shares, TOWER Technologies stores, IBM stores, FTP servers etc). The SQL database can run on heaps of things (DB2, SQL server, Oracle et al -- on any architecture). The bits that you need to worry about scaling are the document store and the SQL database, which can both be on unix boxen. Mikal -- Michael Still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL, modem or router
http://telstra.com/ServiceStatus/Recent.asp make this your default homepage for a while, allthough it seems to slowly be improving. Hi, The good point about the Cisco is that you can start the ppp connection on the router itself (pppoA client), you can use as well NAT and firewalling image (which give you as well a good value firewall and access to real Tech support trough the cisco TAC which is pretty good). This is the added value. This router is a really good one and i mean it.If you plan to not use those features, then there is no real intertest to go to the router itself.. If you choose to not go for the cisco, then get a cheap ADSL modem, probably the alcatel is a good choice and i think it may even start the PPP connection, so you dont need a PPPoE client on the linux router.. Hope that help; JeF On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: All, my ISP finally is putting equipment into my exchange. The ISP is offering a package deal that comes with a Cisco 827 DSL router. * Should I rather use a modem? * Wouldnt that be a little overkill considering Linux IP filtering and/or masquerading? * If modem, what modems are suggested (PPPoA)? Comments please (and URL's?). thanks jobst -- Howard's conjecture: The total dinner check of a party eating dutch will never equal the total of what each diner admits to having eaten. __, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L -(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Document management systems
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 04:23:12PM +1000, David Fitch wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 04:12:40PM +1000, Jill Rowling wrote: Of course if you have to replace the license server, you have to buy (or negotiate) new licenses with the vendor. That's why people usually use a license host with high reliability hardware like a sparc rather than a PC. The license codes usually cost more than the hardware, so you don't want to be changing the hostid of the license server anytime soon. or when you change/upgrade your license server you change the hostid to match the old one (not that anyone would actually do that of course [cough cough] but it's possible). Umm.. of course, that is exactly what people would actually do! All Sun systems contain their hostid on a chip (or on some newer systems, a smart-card) on the motherboard. This chip can be moved between machines at will, thus taking the hostid with it. (And if you're moving it between hosts with different types of hostid chips, Sun will happily burn you a new one with the old hostid) Scott. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Off Topic Linux to Linux ADSL question
Hi, It's a known Telstra routing issue. They may or may not do something about it. They are however aware of the issue. Bart Peter McCarthy writes: Howdy all I think this question is a little off topic, but I thought I would chance it and run it by your knowledgeable minds... I have two Telstra ADSL sites both connecting LAN's to the Internet. Both are running Linux RH 7.1 and working very well. Now both of these sites work fine from Linux to internet, however running from Linux box to Linux box just accross the Bigpond network I have nearly no network connection. I am able to ping just fine, but trying to SSH or any other service just fails miserably. Usually with SSH it will log in and I can issue one, maybe two commands like an ls then my connection freezes. However sometimes (but increasingly rarely) I have noticed that it all works fine. I think it will usually work when each box has been allocated a different subnet. Bigpond tends to use 144.xxx... and some time 61.xxx... When I get thes IP's it all works fine, mostly. So this leads me to think it is a Bigpond issue. Appreciate any feedback on this. Cheers PMc -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Off Topic Linux to Linux ADSL question
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, bart bunting wrote: Hi, It's a known Telstra routing issue. They may or may not do something about it. They are however aware of the issue. It doesn't hurt to keep reminding them off it however. In particular you can send them regular reports of latency problems. Pings and traceroutes from your node to the destination node and the reverse at different times of the day. Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The squeaky wheel gets oiled ... Bart Peter McCarthy writes: Howdy all I think this question is a little off topic, but I thought I would chance it and run it by your knowledgeable minds... I have two Telstra ADSL sites both connecting LAN's to the Internet. Both are running Linux RH 7.1 and working very well. Now both of these sites work fine from Linux to internet, however running from Linux box to Linux box just accross the Bigpond network I have nearly no network connection. I am a -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dynamic update in BIND 9
- Original Message - From: Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mail List - SLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mail List - CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: [SLUG] Dynamic update in BIND 9 I am trying to get dynamic updating working in BIND 9.1.x I have the master DNS set up with the key statement OK and the allow-update statement and I have restarted the DNS. Its a good idea to disable the keys while you are setting it up and then enable them once you know its working without them I notice in the BIND docs that it also mentions a server statement which assumes that the IP for both ends is known, but this is not the case for me as one end is dynamic IP. Yeah I had a similar problem on my LAN's DNS when using nsupdate I have to put in a serverstatement for it to work, even if nsupdate is being run on the same machine as bind.(I am not sure how this will translate to you situation though) So if you are updating the records on a machine called master shnsupdate server master first command EOF Also nsupdate has a few behavioural oddities, make sure you put in a few new lines after the server statement. If you are getting input from a file, the file needs to have those newlines and for some reason I have only got it to work from a file input if the current working directory contains the key. ---Gareth Walters -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Webcams
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for linux compatible webcams, or rather, webcams that you can actually write applications for. I've always been somewhat interested in real time video type stuff, and I'd like to have a go at hacking on a webcam motion tracking / telepresence type application, but I'll needa webcam that I can get access to in code, to pull the stream from. Most uses of webcams seem to just be grab a snapshot, put it in a directory type apps, I'm looking for something more than that. Thanks AdamK -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Webcams
Adam Kennedy wrote:
Most uses of webcams seem to just be grab a snapshot, put it in a
directory type apps, I'm looking for something more than that.
Look at xawtv.
The snapshot bit I use is webcam.c, which is included in the above.
Of course, you are going to have to write the motion sensor stuff. Good
luck.
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Re: [SLUG] Webcams
Heya On Wed, 2001-10-03 at 12:39, Adam Kennedy wrote: I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for linux compatible webcams, or rather, webcams that you can actually write applications for. Almost everything you'll find conforms to the Video4Linux API, so in theory your app should work everywhere. I highly recommend the Philips Vesta cams. But they're slightly dated, and, at the risk of contradicting myself, aren't supported by very many applications at the moment. :-) That comes down to the fact that the hardware only supports one palette, and the palette conversion routines were pulled from the driver when it was integrated into the official kernel tree. But I digress.. I've always been somewhat interested in real time video type stuff, and I'd like to have a go at hacking on a webcam motion tracking / telepresence type application, but I'll needa webcam that I can get access to in code, to pull the stream from. http://motion.technolust.cx is a great place to start on this. Also look in to the loopback driver by the same author, linked from there. Cheers, -- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Vulnerabilities - linux v. windows
Statistics can be taken to mean whatever you like. This doesn't seem to take account of the severity of particular vulnerabilities but I still thought other Sluggers may find it interesting. http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,224997,20260847,00.htm regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Email client recommendations
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Steven Blunt wrote: You can set up a local SMTP server which will hold mail until you next connect to the net. I'm fairly sure sendmail does this by default. Does any distro automatically flush the mail queue when you connect to the net? I added /usr/sbin/sendmail -q to /etc/ppp/ip-up.local . -- Mike Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==-- Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Email client recommendations
This one time, at band camp, Mike Holland wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Steven Blunt wrote: You can set up a local SMTP server which will hold mail until you next connect to the net. I'm fairly sure sendmail does this by default. Does any distro automatically flush the mail queue when you connect to the net? I added /usr/sbin/sendmail -q to /etc/ppp/ip-up.local . Debian does with exim. IIRC, postfix and sendmail also add rules to /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg Balial This port may thing it's fortified, butt I seem to be mounting a pretty good assault -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Vulnerabilities - linux v. windows
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:00:03 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statistics can be taken to mean whatever you like. This doesn't seem to take account of the severity of particular vulnerabilities but I still thought other Sluggers may find it interesting. http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,224997,20260847,00.htm I think there was a followup to this on http:://www.thregister.co.uk . Turns out many of the Linux bugs were found during code reviews but do not or did not have an exploit at the time the bug became known. Every single M$ bug became known due to an exploit. The other point raised is that the Linux bugs were patched in a matter of days while the M$ ones weren't fixed for weeks or months. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Hundreds of thousands of people couldn't care less about Kylix and what it runs on. It's there for the dying breed of die-hard Pascal fanatics who missed their 20 year window to migrate to C and C++. -- Kaz Kylheku in comp.os.linux.development.apps -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Vulnerabilities - linux v. windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statistics can be taken to mean whatever you like. This doesn't seem to take account of the severity of particular vulnerabilities but I still thought other Sluggers may find it interesting. http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,224997,20260847,00.htm yes. Unfortunately the article just uses the number of bugs reported to Bugtraq, This tells us little about the security of either OS. Some of those bugs would have been found before exploitation and some may not even have an exploit for them yet. Thats goes for both OS's. You also need to take into account the severity of the bug, does it give user level access or root access or does it just crash a program? The numbers of bugs on Bugtraq is just that - numbers. Little can be drawn from it except that it has managed to fill a page on zdnet on a quiet day :-) Mike Will go back to reading www.kuro5hin.org :-) -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Webcams
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for linux compatible webcams, or rather, webcams that you can actually write applications for. A good cheap webcam that works on linux (and everything else) is the Swann USB Smartcam Deluxe. Based on the OV511+ chipset, it is supported under linux, and at only $58.00 (I got mine from www.umart.com.au), I thought it a bargan. I have had it working on Linux-x86/Windows2k/iMac-OS9.1. The Swann USB Smartcam Personal is $10 cheaper, but may use a different chipset (it is lower res than the 640x480 Deluxe model). I've always been somewhat interested in real time video type stuff, and I'd like to have a go at hacking on a webcam motion tracking / telepresence type application, but I'll needa webcam that I can get access to in code, to pull the stream from. Most uses of webcams seem to just be grab a snapshot, put it in a directory type apps, I'm looking for something more than that. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Vulnerabilities - linux v. windows
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Vulnerabilities - linux v. windows Statistics can be taken to mean whatever you like. This doesn't seem to take account of the severity of particular vulnerabilities but I still thought other Sluggers may find it interesting. http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,224997,20260847,00.htm regards Steven It also doesn't take into account a couple of other things... - Default installations. I think you'd find more of these vulnerabilities are exploitable in a default install of Windows than a default install of say RedHat or Debian. Windows has too much running by default. Though personally I'd say RedHat does too - even a Debian box has stuff I remove straight after install and it's pretty minimal. Microsoft could improve their security and image *considerably* by shipping the OS with everything off instead of everything on. - Source code availability. If you want to find a new hole in a Linux or BSD OS you can Use the Source Luke which can provide a wealth of information. For proprietary OS's you just have to hammer at it black box fashion until you get it to crack then try and work out exactly what happened and how to leverage it. Eeye have done some nice work in this area. That's just a coupla things I came up with off the top of my head too... there's plenty more to this argument. S. :) PLEASE NOTE: This email transmission is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, you must not use, disclose or print this transmission and you should delete it from your system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
