Re: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Jean-Francois Dive]

well true but for the f*** radeon mobile 9000 that i have on my brand
new Dell laptop. 

On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 17:10, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Not sure if you want X server on the box(es), but I had trouble installing
> > XFree86 on new Dell desktop machines - video driver (brand new intel chip,
> > can't remember which one tho) doesn't exist yet.
> 
> (If this is the ATI chipset, you'll find a working driver in XF86 4.2 and
> the upcoming 4.3.)
> 
> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Phil Scarratt]

Jeff Waugh wrote:




Not sure if you want X server on the box(es), but I had trouble installing
XFree86 on new Dell desktop machines - video driver (brand new intel chip,
can't remember which one tho) doesn't exist yet.



(If this is the ATI chipset, you'll find a working driver in XF86 4.2 and
the upcoming 4.3.)

- Jeff



It's an Intel 82845G something. Last I checked (late last year) the 
driver didn't exist. I've just checked the intel site and there's a 
driver posted on the 20/1/03. Hopefully I'll get a chance to test it in 
the next few weeks.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Jeff Waugh]

> Not sure if you want X server on the box(es), but I had trouble installing
> XFree86 on new Dell desktop machines - video driver (brand new intel chip,
> can't remember which one tho) doesn't exist yet.

(If this is the ATI chipset, you'll find a working driver in XF86 4.2 and
the upcoming 4.3.)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Phil Scarratt]

Not sure if you want X server on the box(es), but I had trouble 
installing XFree86 on new Dell desktop machines - video driver (brand 
new intel chip, can't remember which one tho) doesn't exist yet.

Fil

Shanna Daly wrote:
Id be interested on the outcome of this as ill be installing debian on
one of the DL380G3s in the next few weeks, we currently have red hat 6.2
running on an old DL380, and that's been fine, cant see there being a
problem.

Debian has worked smoothly on a Dell Poweredge 350 here as well.

-Original Message-
From: Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

Howdy Folks,

A client is about to do a rollout of linux appservers across their wan,
and
they're trying to find brand-name servers (aka compaq/dell) which will
run
debian without a lot of screwing around..  They're running HP DL380G2's
at
the moment for their Windows machines, but apparently HP aren't being
very
helpful about whether there is linux support for the hardware in the
boxes..

I'm wondering if any of you are running debian (or one of the other
non-redhat-fuzzy-warm-feeling-rpm-based distro's) on HP/compaq/dell
hardware?  And if so, what the install was like?  I'm certainly up for
dropping a custom-compiled kernel onto the install CD to let us install
onto
RAID, but the client doesn't want to go to the hassle.. (plus I think
i've
finally talked him out of needing raid for a box that'll never use the
HDD
once the app is loaded.. :)

Cheers,

Damien

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Re: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Matt M]

We're about to drop Debian onto some IBM hardware (x335 1RU Dual Xeon 
machines) at a few places I'm involved with, and I haven't heard anything 
about it not working. All the hardware is supported, and it doesn't seem 
like it'll be any major hassle.

A little bit of sneakiness in the hardware spec areas is helpful when 
you're brand name shopping. If you can get a list of the hardware in the 
machine, just chase down the drivers for individual components with google.

Also, generally what you'll find is that if a machine will support one 
flavor of Linux, it supports them all -- the drivers are in the kernel 
(Though not necessarily on the stock boot disk one!).

HTH,

Matt

At 16:20 19/02/2003, you wrote:
Howdy Folks,

A client is about to do a rollout of linux appservers across their wan, and
they're trying to find brand-name servers (aka compaq/dell) which will run
debian without a lot of screwing around..  They're running HP DL380G2's at
the moment for their Windows machines, but apparently HP aren't being very
helpful about whether there is linux support for the hardware in the boxes..

I'm wondering if any of you are running debian (or one of the other
non-redhat-fuzzy-warm-feeling-rpm-based distro's) on HP/compaq/dell
hardware?  And if so, what the install was like?  I'm certainly up for
dropping a custom-compiled kernel onto the install CD to let us install onto
RAID, but the client doesn't want to go to the hassle.. (plus I think i've
finally talked him out of needing raid for a box that'll never use the HDD
once the app is loaded.. :)

Cheers,

Damien

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Re: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Jeff Waugh]

> I'm wondering if any of you are running debian (or one of the other
> non-redhat-fuzzy-warm-feeling-rpm-based distro's) on HP/compaq/dell
> hardware?  And if so, what the install was like?

Have used Dell servers and HP clients quite a bit. Debian is generally a
cinch on server hardware, but sometimes a pain on client hardware as the
stable distro may be a bit behind the times on hardware support (you can get
some interesting variations in name-brand hardware, as they tend to have
components made in bulk specifically for them).

> I'm certainly up for dropping a custom-compiled kernel onto the install CD
> to let us install onto RAID, but the client doesn't want to go to the
> hassle.

No need for custom kernel builds (unless you're after very specific patches
or minimal kernels) Debian standard kernels support software RAID and many
hardware RAID adapters.

- Jeff

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RE: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Shanna Daly]

Id be interested on the outcome of this as ill be installing debian on
one of the DL380G3s in the next few weeks, we currently have red hat 6.2
running on an old DL380, and that's been fine, cant see there being a
problem.

Debian has worked smoothly on a Dell Poweredge 350 here as well.

-Original Message-
From: Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

Howdy Folks,

A client is about to do a rollout of linux appservers across their wan,
and
they're trying to find brand-name servers (aka compaq/dell) which will
run
debian without a lot of screwing around..  They're running HP DL380G2's
at
the moment for their Windows machines, but apparently HP aren't being
very
helpful about whether there is linux support for the hardware in the
boxes..

I'm wondering if any of you are running debian (or one of the other
non-redhat-fuzzy-warm-feeling-rpm-based distro's) on HP/compaq/dell
hardware?  And if so, what the install was like?  I'm certainly up for
dropping a custom-compiled kernel onto the install CD to let us install
onto
RAID, but the client doesn't want to go to the hassle.. (plus I think
i've
finally talked him out of needing raid for a box that'll never use the
HDD
once the app is loaded.. :)

Cheers,

Damien

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Re: [SLUG] slow sending email....DNS issues

[Christopher Samuel]

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On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 10:22 am, dan wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can track down the reason for the performance
> bottleneck?

Ethereal is your friend. :-)

http://www.ethereal.com/

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[SLUG] Debian on Brand-Name servers?

[Damien Gardner Jnr]

Howdy Folks,

A client is about to do a rollout of linux appservers across their wan, and
they're trying to find brand-name servers (aka compaq/dell) which will run
debian without a lot of screwing around..  They're running HP DL380G2's at
the moment for their Windows machines, but apparently HP aren't being very
helpful about whether there is linux support for the hardware in the boxes..

I'm wondering if any of you are running debian (or one of the other
non-redhat-fuzzy-warm-feeling-rpm-based distro's) on HP/compaq/dell
hardware?  And if so, what the install was like?  I'm certainly up for
dropping a custom-compiled kernel onto the install CD to let us install onto
RAID, but the client doesn't want to go to the hassle.. (plus I think i've
finally talked him out of needing raid for a box that'll never use the HDD
once the app is loaded.. :)

Cheers,

Damien

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[SLUG] Bitstream Vera fonts pre-release!

[Jeff Waugh]

Hey everyone,

If you're looking for some really good screen fonts, check out the Bitstream
Vera pre-release! Note that for the beta pre-release, they are not freely
redistributable or modifiable, but the license for the final version is on
the webpage (first DFSG-compliancy analysis wins).

  http://www.gnome.org/fonts/

They're available thanks to the hard work of Jim Gettys, Bitstream and the
GNOME Foundation.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Milletvekillerine Sesinizi Duyurun - Yabancý Askere Hayýr!

[Turkiye2023]

   
 
  
 
   

   
 
  
 
   
 
   

   
 
  MÝLLETVEKÝLLERÝNE 
SESÝNÝZÝ DUYURUN

  


   
 
  
 
   
!
  
   

   
Vekilinize 
  "Yabancý Asker" 'i Reddetmesi 
  için Mektup 
  Yollayýn

  Sayýn Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Vatandaþý,  

Meclisin önüne gelmesi muhtemel 
  tezkere, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti topraklarýna 
  ABD askerlerinin uzun ve belirsiz bir süre 
  için konuþlanmasýný saðlamakla kalmayacak 
  ayný zamanda ülke bünyesinde ABD'nin teknik 
  ve lojistik anlamda demir atmasýna imkan 
  tanýyacaktýr. 
ABD, Hiroþima'ya bomba attýktan 
  sonra Japonya'da ve Ýkinci Dünya Savaþý'ndan 
  sonra Almanya'da gerçekleþtirdiði çapta 
  bir yapýlanmayý Türkiye'de planlamaktadýr. 
  Her konuda sesini yükseltmesini bilen bazý 
  kurumlar ise, Türk topraklarýnýn ABD'nin 
  uçak üssüne döndürülmesine sesini çýkaramamaktadýr. 

Bugüne kadar ABD ve diðerlerine 
  dur diyemeyenlerin bugün dur demesini bekleyemeyiz. 
  Görev yine bize düþmektedir.
Sizleri, Meclise gelmesi muhtemel 
  "Yabancý Asker Tezkeresi" öncesinde, 
  milletvekillerine seslerinizi duyurmaya 
  ve kritik oylamada hiç bir etki altýnda 
  kalmayarak, kamuoyunun sesini dinlemelerini 
  teþvik etmeye çaðýrýyoruz.
Milletvekillerine mektup yollamak 
  için týklayýn.
Liderlerimize ve ABD Büyükelçisine 
  mektup yollamak istemek isterseniz Türkiye 
  2023'ün web sitesini kullanabilirsiniz. 

Saygýlar
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Re: [SLUG] 4-button touchpad on Clevo laptop

[Sebastian Welsh]

Depending on the touchpad you are using, you may find an appropriate
XFree86 module for it that will work better. I have a system with a
synaptics touchpad (can be found at
http://mobilix.org/touchpad_driver.html). This is a pretty common
device, and this module supports things like double tapping, wheel mouse
emulation and the like.

http://cpbotha.net/clevo5600/clevo5600_linux/ indicates that the clevo
has a synaptics touchpad, so assuming that your hardware is the same you
may find that this module works.

Installation is pretty simple and well documented if you download the
drivers, but if you need a hand then let me know. 
 


On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 11:13, Peter Chubb wrote:
> Can anyone help me to get the third and fourth mouse buttons working
> on my laptop?
> 
> I'm using XFree 4.2.
> 
> The relevant XFConfig-4 section is:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
>   Option  "buttons" "5"
>   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
>   #Option "Emulate3Buttons"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> EndSection
> 
> Nothing happens when I press the two middle buttons.
> 
> I've run through all the different protocols that I can think of; most
> give totally erratic mouse motion.
> 
> 
> 
> Peter C
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Re: [SLUG] 4-button touchpad on Clevo laptop

[Peter Chubb]

> "Peter" == Peter Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Peter> I'll try adding buttons 6 and 7 (Xfree4.2 is supposed to handle
Peter> that) and see what xev says.

Nothing whatsoever

I tried both with and without the Zaxismapping(which, BTW, is only
really to tell XFree which buttons map to the scroll wheel.  Buttons
should be detected by Xev with or without that, AFAICT)

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Re: [SLUG] 4-button touchpad on Clevo laptop

[Terry Collins]

Peter Chubb wrote:
...snip.
 
> This thing doesn't have a scroll wheel; it has two buttons that are
> meant to emulate a scroll wheel.

Then comment out the ZAxisMapping stuff and use buttons 4&5
> 
> I'll try adding buttons 6 and 7 (Xfree4.2 is supposed to handle that)

Okay, increased capacity from previously.


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Re: [SLUG] slow sending email....DNS issues

[Jean-Francois Dive]

take a sniffer trace while the email is sent. With timestamps and
ethereal to decode the TCP stream, you shouls be able to figure out
where the problem is.

You should explain more in details the mail setup: describe which
machine send email to which smtp server etc..etc..

JeF

On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 10:22, dan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have written a system which sends out email to a database.
> 
> Recently I have been experiencing major performance problems.  The software
> I have written and use has remained unchanged so I suspect I have a problem
> with DNS resolutions on my Linux box.  The emails themselves do get
> delivered correctly but the process takes hours rather than minutes.
> 
> I have contacted my hosting provider and they have said that there is a
> reverse lookup address in their DNS.  Can anyone help me find out and test
> if the DNS the system is using is configured correctly?
> 
> Does anyone know how I can track down the reason for the performance
> bottleneck?
> 
> I have also check my resolv.conf file and both the primary and secondary DNS
> are specified there.
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Dan
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Re: [SLUG] 4-button touchpad on Clevo laptop

[Peter Chubb]

> "Terry" == Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Terry> Peter Chubb wrote:
>> Can anyone help me to get the third and fourth mouse buttons
>> working on my laptop?

Terry> ...snip
 
>> Nothing happens when I press the two middle buttons.

Terry> Just a wild guess here, but I think a scoll mouse already uses
Terry> all 5 buttons.  1 - Left Click 2 - right Click 3 - middle click
Terry> (click scroll wheel 4 - click up on scroll wheel (scroll
Terry> up). ZAxis Mapping stuff 4 5 - click down on scroll wheel
Terry> (scroll down) Z Axis mapping stuff 5

This thing doesn't have a scroll wheel; it has two buttons that are
meant to emulate a scroll wheel.

I'll try adding buttons 6 and 7 (Xfree4.2 is supposed to handle that)
and see what xev says.

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Re: [SLUG] 4-button touchpad on Clevo laptop

[Terry Collins]

Peter Chubb wrote:
> 
> Can anyone help me to get the third and fourth mouse buttons working
> on my laptop?

...snip
 
> Nothing happens when I press the two middle buttons.

Just a wild guess here, but I think a scoll mouse already uses all 5
buttons.
1 - Left Click
2 - right Click
3 - middle click (click scroll wheel
4 - click up on scroll wheel (scroll up). ZAxis Mapping stuff 4
5 - click down on scroll wheel (scroll down) Z Axis mapping stuff 5

So either you need to define buttons 6 & 7 (Possibly over limit of mouse
driver from something in archives) or you need to remove ZAxisMapping if
you do not have a scroll wheel.


> 
> I've run through all the different protocols that I can think of; most
> give totally erratic mouse motion.
> 
> Peter C
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[SLUG] 4-button touchpad on Clevo laptop

[Peter Chubb]

Can anyone help me to get the third and fourth mouse buttons working
on my laptop?

I'm using XFree 4.2.

The relevant XFConfig-4 section is:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option  "buttons" "5"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
EndSection

Nothing happens when I press the two middle buttons.

I've run through all the different protocols that I can think of; most
give totally erratic mouse motion.



Peter C


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[SLUG] slow sending email....DNS issues

[dan]

Hi,

I have written a system which sends out email to a database.

Recently I have been experiencing major performance problems.  The software
I have written and use has remained unchanged so I suspect I have a problem
with DNS resolutions on my Linux box.  The emails themselves do get
delivered correctly but the process takes hours rather than minutes.

I have contacted my hosting provider and they have said that there is a
reverse lookup address in their DNS.  Can anyone help me find out and test
if the DNS the system is using is configured correctly?

Does anyone know how I can track down the reason for the performance
bottleneck?

I have also check my resolv.conf file and both the primary and secondary DNS
are specified there.

Can anyone help?

Dan

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Re: [SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux

[John Clarke]

On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 08:30:01PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

> Does anyone know if compact flash card readers like this:
> 
> http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN052.htm

Probably.  I bought a Verbatim CF reader ($38 at Harris Technology) and
it works fine.  They do a multi-card reader too.  I also have a
usbdrive which also works on Linux.

All you need is a kernel with usb mass storage and scsi (because the usb
drives appear as a scsi device) support, with the appropriate entries in
/etc/modules.conf:

alias usb-controller usb-uhci
alias usb-controller1 usb-ohci
alias usb-controller2 usb-ohci
alias usb-controller3 ehci-hcd

and /etc/fstab:

/dev/sdb1   /mnt/flash  autouser,noauto,nosuid 0 0

and the hotplug tools installed and configured.  I'm using RH7.3 and
all I had to do manually was add the line in /etc/fstab (and if you
have kudzu installed it will even do that automatically).

WARNING: insert your CF card into the reader *before* connecting it to
the USB port, and disconnect the reader before removing the card, or
you will corrupt the data on the card.  I know, I've done it, and
although I did manage to recover most of the 100 or so photos I lost,
it wasn't easy.  I now know far more about the Exif file format than I
ever wanted to know, and I had to remember all I knew about FAT16 but
had hoped never to need again.


Cheers,

John
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RE: [SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux

[Robert Maurency]

Not sure about that one, but I left my Apacer Mega-Steno (multi-card reader:
http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/mega_steno11.asp) plugged
in to my laptop which runs SuSe 8.1, and it automatically popped up
shortcuts to all the usb device's drives.

Very nice!

-Original Message-
From: Erik de Castro Lopo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 8:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux


Hi all,

Does anyone know if compact flash card readers like this:

http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN052.htm

or better yet, multi card readers like this:

http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN038.htm

are supported on Linux? 

I've looked at the kernel USB options and a couple of specific cards
do seem to be supported but the ones that are, I can't find in 
Australia.

Thanks in advance,
Erik
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Re: [SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux

[Stephen SLI27 Lindsay]

(Sorry about the top post, someone know how get the lotus notes v5 client
to make it easy to reply to mail properly?)

Don't know about the CF readers you have listed below, but I just got a
SanDisk cf reader/writer from everythinglinux last night.
http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/SDDR75?elinux=bb4ecaa7f069aef61c87f0cee7c041e2
More or less worked straight out of the box on debian. Just need the usb
hotplug stuff (which I already had installed), then mount it as a scsi
drive (sda1 on my machine).

Cheers..Steve.


   
  
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Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know if compact flash card readers like this:
>
> http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN052.htm
>
> or better yet, multi card readers like this:
>
> http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN038.htm
>
> are supported on Linux?
>
> I've looked at the kernel USB options and a couple of specific cards
> do seem to be supported but the ones that are, I can't find in
> Australia.

The USB ones can be a little picky. Some brands do not work,
at least not easily, but others do. You will need to load
the usb-storage module.

Check this list: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=11

I see those URLs show PQI readers. This brand is generally
supported right out of the box...I have a PQI travelflash
5 in one and it just works.

The kernel USB options only show ones that are "weird"..most
just use the usb-storage API which is pretty generic.

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Re: [SLUG] PII 400 no-fan heatsink?

[Terry Collins]

Bruce Badger wrote:

> Google reveals that world+dog would like to sell me a heatsink *with*
> fan - but I see no heatsinks without a fan.

>From what I have seen, the safest is a CPU heatsink with fan, because
you know the CPU is being cooled. The alternative is the tricky task of
making sure you have adequate air flow in the case to cool the heat sink
anyway.

Either seek out the most humungous heat sink you can lay your hands on,
or seek out a quieter fan.

So far, no one has posted a source of really quiet fans. Of course, a
good quiet fan that pumps lots of air can also cause your case to hum
{:-(.


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Re: [SLUG] PII 400 no-fan heatsink?

[Simon Males]

http://www.oatleyelectronics.com/computer.html

Scroll down to KTX PENTIUM II CPU HEATSINK WITH FAN
You can unscrew the fan on this one. Its a bigger heatsink than standard 
issue intel ones. Though i have never been able to completly remove a 
PII standard heatsink :) (to afaird im going to break the dam plastic 
housing they come in.



From: Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 18 Feb 2003 19:00:17 +1100
Subject: [SLUG] PII 400 no-fan heatsink?

I have a couple of PII 400 machines which are very noisy.  As part of
the campaign to make them quieter, I was wondering if there were any
no-fan heatsinks around that could prevent the PII 400s from melting
down.

Google reveals that world+dog would like to sell me a heatsink *with*
fan - but I see no heatsinks without a fan.

Is there such a thing?


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Re: [SLUG] Problems with virtual hosts on apache.

[Mary]

On Tue, Feb 18, 2003, Matt Hyne wrote:
> I've played around with the options and searched google to no avail.

I know you solved it with the ServerAlias directive, but web-wise the
examples at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/examples.html#name seem
to be the canonical ones. Strange to see this thread, I was fooling
around with this just this morning.

Until this morning I had whole different virtual hosts for every
possible name :)

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Re: [SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux

[Ben Buxton]

Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if compact flash card readers like this:
> 
> http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN052.htm
> 
> or better yet, multi card readers like this:
> 
> http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN038.htm
> 
> are supported on Linux? 
> 
> I've looked at the kernel USB options and a couple of specific cards
> do seem to be supported but the ones that are, I can't find in 
> Australia.

The USB ones can be a little picky. Some brands do not work,
at least not easily, but others do. You will need to load
the usb-storage module.

Check this list: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=11

I see those URLs show PQI readers. This brand is generally
supported right out of the box...I have a PQI travelflash
5 in one and it just works.

The kernel USB options only show ones that are "weird"..most
just use the usb-storage API which is pretty generic.

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Re: [SLUG] Sed and ^M

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Daniel Harper wrote:
>
>Anyone know how to rip ^M (dos line return) using sed?

tr -d '\r' will remove ^Ms from a stream.

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Re: [SLUG] SQUID on a dial-up gateway

[Robert Collins]

On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 20:52, Chris wrote:
> Gday Everyone,
> Okay -- ive got a small Debian Server which serves samba shares, etc.
> 
> Clients can connect to the net through a small php file, which executes
> pon.

why not have ppp-up.d start squid?

> However how can i get squid to start without being connected to the
> 'net.

squid -D will skip DNS checks. (try squid -? some day).

Rob
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[Chris]

Gday Everyone,
Okay -- ive got a small Debian Server which serves samba shares, etc.

Clients can connect to the net through a small php file, which executes
pon.

Now my problem is that im running (well, at least trying) to run a squid
proxy server. However squid will refuse to work until the internet is
connected, and then I need to ssh in and run '/etc/init.d/squid start'.
Now the rest of the family are not very computer-litirate so I don't
want to have them trying to start and stop squid.

However how can i get squid to start without being connected to the
'net.

BTW, If anybody would like the script (Its GPL) -- just email me back :)

Cheers,
Chris

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[SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

Hi all,

Does anyone know if compact flash card readers like this:

http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN052.htm

or better yet, multi card readers like this:

http://www.adelong.com.au/Products_Dec_2001/MM/MMGEN038.htm

are supported on Linux? 

I've looked at the kernel USB options and a couple of specific cards
do seem to be supported but the ones that are, I can't find in 
Australia.

Thanks in advance,
Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Bynari's Insight Server

[David Kempe]

> I've only recently started looking at these sorts of things, we should
keep
> in touch to share experiences.

I'm keen to be in the loop here as well. This has been an issue that has
plagued me for a while now.


> We need iCal support in Evolution, a Windows version of Evolution, and a
> good iCal server for Linux (there may be one already, I haven't checked).

here here.
(I think Stu Guthrie might be working on an iCal server for windows.)

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Re: [SLUG] Bynari's Insight Server

[Matthew Palmer]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Brad Thomson wrote:

> > Run the hell away - NOW.  We're migrating back to Exchange from
> > InsightConnector because it's so useless - and going after our supplier for
> > a refund on the basis of fitness.
> 
> Unstable, useless, lack of support... it's gotta make you wonder why they've
> bothered!

They're very Microsoftish - pretty slick marketing, but absolutely nothing
of substance behind it.

> > * HP OpenMail
> 
> Yup used this before.  I thought it was dead, it'll be interesting see what
> Samsung have done with it, when the samsungcontact.com domain actually
> resolves.

I've only recently started looking at these sorts of things, we should keep
in touch to share experiences.

> > * Oracle CollaborationSuite (a new one which hypes as being pretty good).
> 
> It does look very nice indeed.  Will definately be evalutating this suite.

The problem with all of them is that all you're doing is transplanting one
shitty, proprietary system for another.  Not a winner.

We need iCal support in Evolution, a Windows version of Evolution, and a
good iCal server for Linux (there may be one already, I haven't checked).

> > Both of these work with Outlook.
> > 
> > I'm also trying to get info on whether Evolution could be a possibility -
> > eihter running direct under windows, or via an X server.
> 
> Yep, this is something else we'll need to deal with, as we slowly rid the
> organisation of Windows on the desktop.

Windows, the OS, isn't too bad.  It's an infrastructure thing.  What we need
to do is rid ourselves of the shitty proprietary protocols (like the ones
that run Exchange).

Those Halloween documents are s right.

- Matt


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