Re: [SLUG] Nominations

2003-03-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
 I paid my membership fee at the last SLUG meeting and would like to
 nominate all the current office holders for their current positions:

I refuse to accept a nomination for a committee position, for my part.

I'm intending to stick around SLUG, sit up the back during meetings,
organise the Python Interest Group, install Linux on people's machines
and what not. But I'm too busy in 2003 to be on the committee.

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Re: [SLUG] Win2k - Linux VPN

2003-03-13 Thread Phil Scarratt
Thanks to all who replied and the ensuing discussion... cleared up a few 
things.

I read about Bruce Schneier's analysis as well and was one of the 
reasons for not wanting to go PPTP. I didn't necessarily want to spend 
money on it so went in search of other methods. Having heard of IPSEC 
before I thought that'd be the way to go. After the discussion and 
reading some of the links provided, seems like it is the way to go.

FWIW, the answer to my original problem was that I had not listed the 
server's key in the ipsec secrets file. In any case doing so got ipsec 
working. I then had another problem with ppp authentication over the 
L2TP tunnel - turns out you can't have * for the server field in the 
secrets file as man page says you can (maybe it's an l2tp thing). 
Anyway, got the test run workin internally, now for the real world 
thing

Fil

John Clarke wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:14:58PM +1100, Phil Scarratt wrote:


My concern with the PPTP path is the reported security issues:


It's actually MS's implementation that's flawed rather than PPTP itself.
However, the most likely reason for using PPTP is Windows clients and
that means MS's implementation.
Bruce Schneier has analysed it and found it to be severely flawed, and
recommends IPSEC instead.  That's good enough for me.  From
http://www.counterpane.com/pptp-faq.html:
3. How bad is it?

Very. Microsoft PPTP is very broken, and there's no real way to
fix it without taking the whole thing down and starting over.
This isn't just one problem, but six different problems, any
one of which breaks the protocol.


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Re: [SLUG] BIG IMAGES

2003-03-13 Thread mlh
On 13 Mar 2003 18:44:49 +1100
James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have some images, they are gifs, and they're approximately 14000
 pixels square. I'd really like to view them, and ideally perform
 transformations such as scaling to a less insane size.

I suspect the problem is the uncompressed size
Assuming they're 24bit, that's 14000 x 14000 x 24/8 = 588,000,000 bytes
i.e. ~ 588 Mb.  So you might need a Gig of RAM to work on them.

A quick search for a image slicer only turned up windows shareware ...
but surely there is something for Linux out there somewhere.

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RE: [SLUG] Win2k - Linux VPN

2003-03-13 Thread Greg Hosler
CIPE is a heck of a lot easier to configure and get working, and there is a
windows client if you need to integrate a windows client into the vpn.

furthermore, it's more lightweight than IPSEC, and it is easier to configure
thru a firewall.

and one final note, it's included with the recent Red Hat distributions (RH7.3,
and RH8.0 -- Have not looked at RH7.2, but if you're running 7.2, you should
probably upgrade anyways...)

-Greg

On 13-Mar-2003 Phil Scarratt wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Sorry to interrupt all this talk about nominations
 
 Anyone know a good howto or pointers on setting up a VPN from Win32 
 clients to Linux server? I'm currently looking at setting up an 
 IPSEC/L2TP tunnel but am having trouble getting IPSec to work. I tried 
 to follow instructions at both
 
 http://www.strongsec.com/freeswan/install.htm
 
 and
 
 http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/freeswan-l2tp.html
 
 to no avail as yet. I get packets arriving at the eth interface but not 
 ipsec0 interface (tcpdump). No packets are being dropped or rejected but 
 the logs say the following:
 
 Mar 13 16:25:39 neo pluto[28331]: L2TP-CERT-WIN2KXP[2] 192.168.1.201 
#3: unable to locate my private key for RSA Signature
 Mar 13 16:25:55 neo pluto[28331]: L2TP-CERT-WIN2KXP[2] 192.168.1.201 
#3: Peer ID is ID_DER_ASN1_DN: 'C=AU, ST=NSW, O=Draxsen, CN=rivendell'
 
 The error looks like an obvious oversight somewhere but I can't find it?
 
 Is there a better way? (apart from not using M$ OS at all that is).
 
 Thanks for any tips or info.
 
 Fil
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Re: [SLUG] Reminder: SLUG Annual General Meeting, Friday March28th 2003

2003-03-13 Thread Craige McWhirter

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 16:25, Mary wrote:

 Can the committee appoint people to casual vacancies, or do they require
 a little election? [To those with a long memory: yes, I authored most of
 the recent changes to the constitution, no, my memory is not as long as
 yours ;)]


I don't know about SLUG's constitution per se but the model rules that
most constitutions for groups like us are based on state that the
comittee can appoint people to casual vacancies.

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Re: [SLUG] Nominations

2003-03-13 Thread Craige McWhirter

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 18:41, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I paid my membership fee at the last SLUG meeting and would like
 to nominate all the current office holders for their current
 positions:

  - Vice president: Craige McWhirter


Thanks Eric but I will have to respectively decline the nomination. I've
had two consecutive terms on the SLUG committee and feel it's time for
some fresh faces and some fresh energy. 

I'm now very heavily focussed on Computerbank NSW and at this stage of
it's development it is very time consuming :)

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Re: [SLUG] BIG IMAGES

2003-03-13 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:35:16PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 13 Mar 2003 18:44:49 +1100
 James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I have some images, they are gifs, and they're approximately 14000
  pixels square. I'd really like to view them, and ideally perform
  transformations such as scaling to a less insane size.
 
 I suspect the problem is the uncompressed size
 Assuming they're 24bit, that's 14000 x 14000 x 24/8 = 588,000,000 bytes

IIRC, gifs are 8 bit (or less).

 i.e. ~ 588 Mb.  So you might need a Gig of RAM to work on them.

So this would be ~196 Mb.  You might still need alot of RAM, though :)

-Andrew.

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Re: [SLUG] BIG IMAGES

2003-03-13 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 13 Mar 2003 18:44:49 +1100
 James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have some images, they are gifs, and they're approximately 14000
  pixels square. I'd really like to view them, and ideally perform
  transformations such as scaling to a less insane size.

 I suspect the problem is the uncompressed size
 Assuming they're 24bit, that's 14000 x 14000 x 24/8 = 588,000,000 bytes
 i.e. ~ 588 Mb.  So you might need a Gig of RAM to work on them.

 A quick search for a image slicer only turned up windows shareware ...
 but surely there is something for Linux out there somewhere.


libungif, formerly known as giflib might be what you need.
ftp://ftp.ayamura.org/pub/graphics/ has copies of both of them, wheras
they seem to be gone from the primary site.  Could be patent problems?

There's a bunch of utilities in there which require limited memory.  eg
gifrsiz to resize (by simple deletion of pixels I think rather than
averaging over an area).  Also gifburst which will segment the image into
smaller ones.

Incidentally, the main LZW patent expires in June this year.

Andrew

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Re: [SLUG] BIG IMAGES

2003-03-13 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Andrew Bennetts wrote:

 IIRC, gifs are 8 bit (or less).

  i.e. ~ 588 Mb.  So you might need a Gig of RAM to work on them.

 So this would be ~196 Mb.  You might still need alot of RAM, though :)

That's an 8 bit pallette size, where each pallette colour can take any 24
bit color value.

So yes a program could store only the 8 bits needed to identify which
colour from the palette is used for a given pixel, but many programs will
expand it out to 24 bits in memory.  Plus scratch memory used in any
transformation which might be substantial as well.  It all depends on the
implementation.

A smart program could do a scaling operation without storing the
original image in uncompressed form at all, and only ever storing part of
the resulting image in uncompressed form.  It would cost a little in
performance, but potentially not very much.

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Re: [SLUG] Nominations

2003-03-13 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo

 I paid my membership fee at the last SLUG meeting and would like
 to nominate all the current office holders for their current
 positions:

  - President: Jeff Waugh

Accepted.

Thanks Erik,

- Jeff

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[SLUG] USB printer

2003-03-13 Thread Edwin Humphries
I have recently installed a USB inkjet printer on a new PCI card into our Red Hat 
7.2 print server. It already runs a SAMBA-shared laser printer off the parallel 
port.

The new USB card shows up (but apparently twice: once as a Natoma/Triton II with a 
usb-uhci driver, and one as a Lucent Microelectronics with a usb-ohci driver. I'm 
not sure how meaningful this is.

The laser printer is installed on /dev/lp0. The inkjet printer is installed on 
/dev/usb/lp0, and by all tests, the system knows it is there and a driver is 
installed. 

However, I can't print to the inkjet. In fact, when I tested on one occasion, data 
was sent to the laser printer, which printed out a UNable to open the initial 
device, quitting message. 

Restarting lpd has the following message:

Stopping lpd: [  OK  ]
Starting lpd: Warning - EpsonInkjet: cannot open lp device '/dev/usb/lp0' - No such 
device
[  OK  ]

Have I got the USB system duplicated somehow? Is the printer set up with the wrong 
device name: should it, for example, be /dev/usb/lp1?

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Re: [SLUG] Nominations

2003-03-13 Thread Mary
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 Accepted.

Can someone second these?

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RE: [SLUG] Win2k - Linux VPN

2003-03-13 Thread mkraus
Regarding the location of VPN server, rather than being on a firewall or a 
box within the local subnet, it should be placed on a server within a 
demilitarised zone.

Also, security does vary between site VPNs and user VPNs. Appropriate 
policies should be enforced to prevent exploitation of VPNs via 
exploitations on a users machine.

All the best...

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At 04:55 PM 13/03/03, Adam W sent this up the stick:
Just on this topic of VPN's. I have been meaning to ask everybody. How
secure are VPN's in terms of packet sniffers/encryption etc. The company
that I work for has decided to use citrix Nfuse or whatever the S^#@ is!
Because they argue that using a VPN is insecure - I totally disagree
with this, as I know massive multi-national corporations use these and
rely on these. And as if these companies would use this if it was
insecure.

A IPSEC VPN seems to be most secure out of these technologies, when I 
worked for a large ISP we used to implement them (with 3DES encryption and 

key regeneration every hour).  Since the actual keys aren't transmitted, 
they can't be sniffed.  They were a nice cash cow for us, being a managed 
service and all.

However, you still want a firewall or the like protecting the VPN box, if 
the VPN box is compromised, then the whole VPN is compromised too.

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RE: [SLUG] Nominations

2003-03-13 Thread Theo Julienne
 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:
  Accepted.
 
 Can someone second these?

I'll second that.

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[SLUG] Re: [chat] Funny looks deserve what they get.

2003-03-13 Thread mkraus
(Ok, I think I'm dealing with a bit of an inflammatory topic here... but 
here goes...)

Matt, I don't disagree with you about murder, rape, etc - but the US 
government isn't?! In war, innocents on both sides die.

How is striking first and asking questions later helping? Kind of backs 
Saddam and the like into a corner, where war and violence is the only 
answer. My dad taught me that two wrongs don't make a right. I don't see 
why thats any different in this situation.

We have statutes of international law, lets use them to our advantage 
rather than try to work against them to our downfall.

All the best...

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A read this a week or two ago.  My regard for Terry Jones
plunged as a result.  If he really doesn't think Saddam
Hussein and his regime is responsible for murder, rape and
torture, then I don't what to say.  Except maybe read
the amnesty web site.

Doesn't raise a chuckle anyway.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Funny looks deserve what they get.

2003-03-13 Thread Tony Green
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 09:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (Ok, I think I'm dealing with a bit of an inflammatory topic here... but 
 here goes...)

If you're going to have this discussion, please leave it on 
slug-chat

Greeno

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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Funny looks deserve what they get.

2003-03-13 Thread mkraus
Apologies, I meant to send to the chat list.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Funny looks deserve what they get.

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Collins
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 (Ok, I think I'm dealing with a bit of an inflammatory topic here... but
 here goes...)

THIS BELONGS ON THE CHAT LIST NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.

It started there, take it back and leave it there.

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Re: [SLUG] Win2k - Linux VPN

2003-03-13 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:59:09PM +1100, Phil Scarratt wrote:

 working. I then had another problem with ppp authentication over the 
 L2TP tunnel - turns out you can't have * for the server field in the 
 secrets file as man page says you can (maybe it's an l2tp thing). 

I dont think you can have the `*' on both ends of the ppp link.  I hit
the same problem with ppp over ssh.


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Re: [SLUG] Win2k - Linux VPN

2003-03-13 Thread Phil Scarratt
Yes, come to think of it,  that makes sense

Fil

John Clarke wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:59:09PM +1100, Phil Scarratt wrote:


working. I then had another problem with ppp authentication over the 
L2TP tunnel - turns out you can't have * for the server field in the 
secrets file as man page says you can (maybe it's an l2tp thing). 


I dont think you can have the `*' on both ends of the ppp link.  I hit
the same problem with ppp over ssh.
Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] BIG IMAGES

2003-03-13 Thread Anthony Wood
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:44:49PM +1100, James Gregory wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have some images, they are gifs, and they're approximately 14000
 pixels square. I'd really like to view them, and ideally perform
 transformations such as scaling to a less insane size.
 
 What can do this?
 
 I suspect part of the problem is that the gif needs to be decompressed.
 If someone can suggest something that will convert a gif to something
 else for big files, that would be a great start. Programs that crash so
 far:
 
 gimp
 gqview
 convert
 eog

have you tried giftopnm | pnmscale 0.1 | pnmtopng ?

They don't seem to use a lot of memory (~1M), I use them to manipulate scans
and faxes which are moderately big.

cheers,
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[SLUG] Image Info

2003-03-13 Thread Stuart Guthrie
I was wondering if anyone knew how to extract information from jpegs
such as when the image was created? I have been told that the info is
there and some doze s/w can extract it.My photos now have various file
creation dates so I would prefer to get the original shot date/time if
it is available.

ie does this sort of thing exist?

getjpegdata -datecreated photo.jpg

date created: 14/10/1066



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Re: [SLUG] Image Info

2003-03-13 Thread Stephen SLI27 Lindsay

 ie does this sort of thing exist?

exiftags should extract the data you want. Haven't used it but was
looking for a similar thing myself.

 http://johnst.org/sw/exiftags/

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Re: [SLUG] Image Info

2003-03-13 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 10:35:14AM +1100, Stuart Guthrie wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone knew how to extract information from jpegs
 such as when the image was created? I have been told that the info is

If it's EXIF (e.g. from a digital camera) there are two tools I know of:
exifdump and exifprobe.  Both will give you date/time if available.

exifdump is available here:

http://topo.math.u-psud.fr/~bousch/exifdump.py

and exifprobe is here:

http://www.monroe.net/~dhh/exifprobe.d/exifprobe.html


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Re: [SLUG] Image Info

2003-03-13 Thread Stuart Guthrie
exiftags -v xPC310038.JPG 
Other Properties:

Resolution Unit: i
Chrominance Comp Positioning: Co-Sited
Compression Scheme: JPEG Compression (Thumbnail)
Horizontal Resolution: 72 dpi
Vertical Resolution: 72 dpi
Resolution Unit: i
Offset to JPEG SOI: 2036
Bytes of JPEG Data: 3684
Exif Version: 2.10
Image Generated: 2002:12:31 09:20:56
Image Digitized: 2002:12:31 09:20:56
Meaning of Each Comp: Unknown
Image Compression Mode: 2
File Source: DSC
Scene Type: Directly Photographed

Excellent! Many thanks to John and Stephen for their advice.

Stu

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 10:43, John Clarke wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 10:35:14AM +1100, Stuart Guthrie wrote:
 
  I was wondering if anyone knew how to extract information from jpegs
  such as when the image was created? I have been told that the info is
 
 If it's EXIF (e.g. from a digital camera) there are two tools I know of:
 exifdump and exifprobe.  Both will give you date/time if available.
 
 exifdump is available here:
 
 http://topo.math.u-psud.fr/~bousch/exifdump.py
 
 and exifprobe is here:
 
 http://www.monroe.net/~dhh/exifprobe.d/exifprobe.html
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Image Info

2003-03-13 Thread Mark Paine

 I was wondering if anyone knew how to extract information from jpegs
 such as when the image was created? I have been told that the info is
 there and some doze s/w can extract it.My photos now have various file
 creation dates so I would prefer to get the original shot date/time if
 it is available.

 ie does this sort of thing exist?

getjpegdata -datecreated photo.jpg

 date created: 14/10/1066

A possibility is jhead at http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/.  Came
across it the other day when looking at gallery.  Of course, it only works
with an exif jpeg file.

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Re: [SLUG] Image Info

2003-03-13 Thread Alan L Tyree


On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 11:27, Mark Paine wrote:
 
  I was wondering if anyone knew how to extract information from jpegs
  such as when the image was created? I have been told that the info is
  there and some doze s/w can extract it.My photos now have various file
  creation dates so I would prefer to get the original shot date/time if
  it is available.
 
  ie does this sort of thing exist?
 
 getjpegdata -datecreated photo.jpg
 
  date created: 14/10/1066

Some jpeg files do and some don't contain the information. An old (1997)
Sony does not, but my later camera files do contain the information. For
some scripts to extract and manipulate, see
http://www.varp.net/photos/iOta.html

HTH,
Alan

 
 A possibility is jhead at http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/.  Came
 across it the other day when looking at gallery.  Of course, it only works
 with an exif jpeg file.
 
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[SLUG] LDAPexplorer and PHP and apache-ssl

2003-03-13 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi,

I am trying out ldapexplorer and apache-ssl and php4, but every time I
try to login to a ldap database or after experimentation with a php
script myself.  I keep getting 

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: ldap_connect() in
/usr/share/ldapexplorer/tree.php on line 222

Which to me seems to suggets that it can't find the right library files.

Next I tested this on another machine, similiar setup except it has
apache not apache-ssl installed.  The http.conf are similiar, but
ldapexplorer work straight out of the package.

Any thoughts on how to cure this or fix it ?  Haven't had much
experience with php

Alex



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RE: [SLUG] LDAPexplorer and PHP and apache-ssl

2003-03-13 Thread Jarrad P Kabral
Have you compiled PHP with --with-ldap[DIRECTORY] ?


Regards
Jarrad



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Subject: [SLUG] LDAPexplorer and PHP and apache-ssl


Hi,

I am trying out ldapexplorer and apache-ssl and php4, but every time I
try to login to a ldap database or after experimentation with a php
script myself.  I keep getting 

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: ldap_connect() in
/usr/share/ldapexplorer/tree.php on line 222

Which to me seems to suggets that it can't find the right library files.

Next I tested this on another machine, similiar setup except it has
apache not apache-ssl installed.  The http.conf are similiar, but
ldapexplorer work straight out of the package.

Any thoughts on how to cure this or fix it ?  Haven't had much
experience with php

Alex


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[SLUG] Thankyou

2003-03-13 Thread Peter Torning
Thankyou to those who provided advice on solving my problem with
Maelstrom.

I will try the suggestions over the next few days and let you know the
results.

All the best
Peter C. Torning
President
ComputerBank New England



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[SLUG] calling C libs from perl

2003-03-13 Thread David Fitch
ok so slightly OT perhaps (it's on linux is my defence!)
and no doubt obvious, but how exactly do you call functions
in a C library from a perl script?  (note: not system calls
or standard C library calls but functions from my own
C library)

I can find plenty of examples the other way around but not
this way.  Either it's so easy/obvious it's not worth
talking about or you can't/don't do it (and I can't believe
that).  So does someone want to enlighten me please...

Dave.
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Re: [SLUG] calling C libs from perl

2003-03-13 Thread Broun, Bevan
I can tell you it's in chapter 18 of the Advanced Perl Programming
Oreilly book. There is some documentation at perl.com.au, C and Perl -
the first two look like putting perl in C and the next calling C from perl.

It would seem that it's worth while buying the Perl CD bookshelf.

BB

on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:31:35PM +1030, David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok so slightly OT perhaps (it's on linux is my defence!)
 and no doubt obvious, but how exactly do you call functions
 in a C library from a perl script?  (note: not system calls
 or standard C library calls but functions from my own
 C library)
 
 I can find plenty of examples the other way around but not
 this way.  Either it's so easy/obvious it's not worth
 talking about or you can't/don't do it (and I can't believe
 that).  So does someone want to enlighten me please...
 
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Re: [SLUG] calling C libs from perl

2003-03-13 Thread David Fitch
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:14:28PM +1100, Broun, Bevan wrote:
 I can tell you it's in chapter 18 of the Advanced Perl Programming
 Oreilly book. There is some documentation at perl.com.au, C and Perl -
 the first two look like putting perl in C and the next calling C from perl.
 
 It would seem that it's worth while buying the Perl CD bookshelf.

ah thanks, got that book already (but only up to chapt 11 so far)
so it was under my nose all the time!
I'd seen that XS stuff but assumed it was for calling perl from
other languages.

ta,
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[SLUG] Do you know what this means in apache?

2003-03-13 Thread Kevin Saenz


[Fri Mar 14 17:28:49 2003] [error] [client 10.0.0.3] client denied by
server configuration: /var/www/mail/horde/


drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Mar 13 19:23 mail/


attached is a copy of httpd2.conf below is a snippet of Vhosts.conf



Vhosts.conf


NameVirtualHost 203.41.214.49:80


VirtualHost 203.41.214.49:80
ServerName webmail.spinaweb.com.au
ServerAlias webmail.spinaweb.com.au
DocumentRoot /var/www/mail/horde
CustomLog logs/webmail_log env=VLOG
/VirtualHost

### Main Configuration Section
### You really shouldn't change these settings unless you're a guru
###
ServerRoot /etc/httpd/2.0
#ServerName localhost
#LockFile /etc/httpd/httpd.lock
PidFile /var/run/httpd.pid
ErrorLog logs/error_log
LogLevel warn
DocumentRoot /var/www/html


### Dynamic Shared Object (DSO) Support
### 
### You should always leave those three, as they are needed for 
### normal use.
### mod_access (Order, Allow, etc..)
### mod_log_config (Transferlog, etc..)
### mod_mime (AddType, etc...)

LoadModule access_module modules/mod_access.so
LoadModule auth_module   modules/mod_auth.so
LoadModule auth_anon_module  modules/mod_auth_anon.so
##LoadModule auth_dbm_module  modules/mod_auth_dbm.so
LoadModule auth_digest_modulemodules/mod_auth_digest.so
LoadModule include_modulemodules/mod_include.so
LoadModule log_config_module modules/mod_log_config.so
LoadModule env_modulemodules/mod_env.so
##LoadModule mime_magic_modulemodules/mod_mime_magic.so
##LoadModule cern_meta_module modules/mod_cern_meta.so
LoadModule expires_modulemodules/mod_expires.so
LoadModule headers_modulemodules/mod_headers.so
LoadModule usertrack_module  modules/mod_usertrack.so
##LoadModule unique_id_module modules/mod_unique_id.so
LoadModule setenvif_module   modules/mod_setenvif.so
LoadModule proxy_module  modules/mod_proxy.so
##LoadModule proxy_connect_module modules/mod_proxy_connect.so
##LoadModule proxy_ftp_module modules/mod_proxy_ftp.so
LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so
LoadModule mime_module   modules/mod_mime.so
LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so
LoadModule autoindex_module  modules/mod_autoindex.so
LoadModule asis_module   modules/mod_asis.so
LoadModule info_module   modules/mod_info.so
LoadModule cgi_modulemodules/mod_cgi.so
##LoadModule cgid_module  modules/mod_cgid.so
LoadModule vhost_alias_modulemodules/mod_vhost_alias.so
LoadModule negotiation_modulemodules/mod_negotiation.so
LoadModule dir_modulemodules/mod_dir.so
LoadModule imap_module   modules/mod_imap.so
LoadModule actions_modulemodules/mod_actions.so
##LoadModule speling_module   modules/mod_speling.so
LoadModule userdir_modulemodules/mod_userdir.so
LoadModule alias_module  modules/mod_alias.so
LoadModule rewrite_modulemodules/mod_rewrite.so

##New Modules for 2.0 (some are experimental)
##LoadModule file_cache_module   modules/mod_file_cache.so
##LoadModule echo_module modules/mod_echo.so
##LoadModule charset_lite_module modules/mod_charset_lite.so
##LoadModule cache_modulemodules/mod_cache.so
##LoadModule disk_cache_module   modules/mod_disk_cache.so
##LoadModule mem_cache_modulemodules/mod_mem_cache.so
##LoadModule ext_filter_module   modules/mod_ext_filter.so
##LoadModule case_filter_module  modules/mod_case_filter.so
##LoadModule case_filter_in_module   modules/mod_case_filter_in.so
##LoadModule deflate_module  modules/mod_deflate.so
##LoadModule optional_hook_export_module modules/mod_optional_hook_export.so
##LoadModule optional_hook_import_module modules/mod_optional_hook_import.so
##LoadModule optional_fn_import_module   modules/mod_optional_fn_import.so
##LoadModule optional_fn_export_module   modules/mod_optional_fn_export.so
##LoadModule bucketeer_modulemodules/mod_bucketeer.so
##LoadModule logio_modulemodules/mod_logio.so

###
### Global Configuration
###
# We now support multiple apache configurations on the same server. In 
# common.conf, we put all directives that are common to all implementations
# (httpd, httpd-perl, etc.)
# For Apache2 we load all conf files in conf.d
Include /etc/httpd/conf.d/*.conf
Include conf/commonhttpd.conf
Include conf/mailman.conf

###
### IP Address/Port and Proxied configuration section
###
# The APACHEPROXIED setting can be set in /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd if you
# are using a proxy or accelerator, like the Apache-SGI or khttpd, so that
# the fast web server serves static content while