Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book

2004-07-08 Thread mlh
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 04:15:00PM +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
 If I may add to the non-answers:
 http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/

Also

richinstyle.com
www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css
www.westiv.com/style_master/acadamy/css_tutorial
www.htmldog.com
www.corecss.com
www.brainjar/css
www.alistapart.com/topics/css

and the css reference at msdn.microsoft.com

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Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book

2004-07-08 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Thanks everyone, some excellent reference points. I'll plough through
them.

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[SLUG] Training CD, how? Jave Perl, Quicktime, Flash

2004-07-08 Thread Terry Collins
Friend has to make a training video that will run off a CD on on P3s
running Win2K.

Involves text, images(jpeg) movies (quicktime), animations (flash),
inter-active questions and a final formal inter-active test which needs
to be secure.

He is going to produce a lot of this with Mac OSX and software.

My guestion is about the glue that holds it all together.

I know it all could be done with HTML, but I don't think this meets the
security needs (aka, the test can not be fiddled).

ATM, a sub-contractor is suggesting Adobe In-Design to produce it all in
Java.

1) (non-linux) Can anyone tell me if this is abad idea and why and have
anyother suggestions.

2 (linux) Can anyone make any recommendations on opensource to produce
it or to run it.

I've just become the general dogsbody that has to solve all the
technical problems {:-(.

If he was going to offer it on-line (WWW), what would you recommend?


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Re: [SLUG] Training CD, how? Jave Perl, Quicktime, Flash

2004-07-08 Thread Felix Sheldon
Terry Collins wrote:
Friend has to make a training video that will run off a CD on on P3s
running Win2K.
 

Why off a CD?
Involves text, images(jpeg) movies (quicktime), animations (flash),
inter-active questions and a final formal inter-active test which needs
to be secure.
He is going to produce a lot of this with Mac OSX and software.
My guestion is about the glue that holds it all together.
I know it all could be done with HTML, but I don't think this meets the
security needs (aka, the test can not be fiddled).
 

If it's to be run un-supervised, especially on boxes not under your 
control then there's nothing that can't be fiddled. If it is to be run 
on trusted machines, then lock them down (run a browser in kiosk mode?), 
not much they can fiddle with if they can't get out of the test. Even if 
they're not trusted, it should be possible to at least make it 
*difficult* to cheat, you only have to make it not worth the effort, not 
necessarily 'secure'.

ATM, a sub-contractor is suggesting Adobe In-Design to produce it all in
Java.
1) (non-linux) Can anyone tell me if this is abad idea and why and have
anyother suggestions.
 

Always a bad idea =) NFI about In-Design sorry.
2 (linux) Can anyone make any recommendations on opensource to produce
it or to run it.
 

Do it as a website, whack it on an apache box and serve it up for the 
windoze (or any other) machines?
They can't fiddle the test if only the server knows the answers.

If it does have to be on CD, then HTML would work well too. How the test 
results or answers are stored or transmitted would be the main problem I 
think.

There's open-source flash tools, but the macromedia stuff is probably 
easier.

Universities often have computer based quiz type tests, so maybe there's 
something open source to do that with.

I've just become the general dogsbody that has to solve all the
technical problems {:-(.
If he was going to offer it on-line (WWW), what would you recommend?
 

HTML / Flash / video as mpeg or ogg. No flash even better. Animated gifs 
might do for simple animations.

Flash would do the tests pretty well too probably.
HTH,
Felix

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[SLUG] Re: port trunking

2004-07-08 Thread Ben Buxton

Trunking, Etherchannel, link aggregation, etc. They are all generally
the same thing under a different name.

Linux should do it quite well without a problem. But the traffic from
the Cisco switch will not be balanced if you have a low end switch.
Cisco will only do per-mac-address balancing, so with two links to the
same device you will get one link unused. 

BB

Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing:
 I think this is called bonding in the linux work
 
 trunking is the 802.11q (tagging)
 
 side note you could run trunking on top of bonding !
 
 A
 
 On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 11:11:03AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
  maybe i nee to clarrify
  i want to connect 2 or more (lets say n) number
  of network connections from a single server to
  a single switch and utilise them all for sending
  data. i understand that recieveing may be limited
  but sending can use all via some fancy mac spoofing.
  i also believe that linux (and others) can pretend
  to be a switch (etherchanel or whatever) and thus
  have n x 100mbps throughput full duplex
  
  
  Dean
  
  DaZZa wrote:
  
  On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Dean Hamstead wrote:
  
  
  anyone got a link of somewhere to start for port trunking
  we have all cisco gear on the server farm, and id like to make
  some server - switch trunks (gigabit is an option, but seeing as we
  have lots of free 100mbps ports and multiple unused 100mbs cards. say
  hello dell servers)
  
  Ideas? Links?
  
  
  www.cisco.com
  
  Trunking is dead easy on Cisco switches, provided the OS running on the
  switch is older than something like version 11.
  
  I suspect what you want is not, however, what Cisco calls trunking.
  Trunking in the Cisco world is a means of managing VLAN's - what you
  want is known as etherchanneling or an etherchannel - it's also easy
  to setup from the switch side of things, but I don't know how you'd go at
  the server end.
  
  DaZZa
  
  
  
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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-08 Thread Simon Males
Alexander Samad wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:14:23AM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
Alexander Samad wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:

I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?

  snip
}
If its debian look in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server 

other wise try man dhcpd
interfaces are supplied as an option

run this dpkg -l 'dhcp*' | grep ii
this is the output I get 
ii  dhcp3-client   3.0+3.0.1rc14- DHCP Client
ii  dhcp3-common   3.0+3.0.1rc14- Common files used by all the dhcp3*
packages
ii  dhcp3-server   3.0+3.0.1rc14- DHCP server for automatic IP address
assignm

this is a copy of /etc/default/dhcp3-server
#   Separate multiple interfaces with spaces, e.g. eth0 eth1.
INTERFACES=br0 eth3 eth4
$ dpkg -l 'dhcp*' | grep ii
ii  dhcp   2.0pl5-19  DHCP server for automatic IP address 
assignm
ii  dhcp-client2.0pl5-16.1DHCP Client
ii  dhcp3-common   3.0+3.0.1rc14- Common files used by all the dhcp3* 
packages

Both dhcp and dhcp-server in /etc/defaults have interfaces=eth2.
I think I am using a different version of dhcp (debian), as it is 
responding to /etc/defaults/dhcp, now it is basically asking me the same 
thing.

Jul  7 20:21:24 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth2 (0.0.0.0).

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Re: [SLUG] learning dhcpd

2004-07-08 Thread Alexander Samad
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:25:26PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:14:23AM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
 
 
 I am trying to serve dhcp out of eth2, eth0 is my optus internet 
 connection. Can i specify in dhcp which interface to use?
 
 
   snip
 
 }
 
 
 If its debian look in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server 
 
 other wise try man dhcpd
 
 interfaces are supplied as an option
 
 
 
 run this dpkg -l 'dhcp*' | grep ii
 
 this is the output I get 
 ii  dhcp3-client   3.0+3.0.1rc14- DHCP Client
 ii  dhcp3-common   3.0+3.0.1rc14- Common files used by all the dhcp3*
 packages
 ii  dhcp3-server   3.0+3.0.1rc14- DHCP server for automatic IP address
 assignm
 
 this is a copy of /etc/default/dhcp3-server
 #   Separate multiple interfaces with spaces, e.g. eth0 eth1.
 INTERFACES=br0 eth3 eth4
 
 $ dpkg -l 'dhcp*' | grep ii
 ii  dhcp   2.0pl5-19  DHCP server for automatic IP address 
 assignm
 ii  dhcp-client2.0pl5-16.1DHCP Client
 ii  dhcp3-common   3.0+3.0.1rc14- Common files used by all the dhcp3* 
 packages
 
 Both dhcp and dhcp-server in /etc/defaults have interfaces=eth2.
is that interfaces or INTERFACES its case sensative. apart from that 



 
 I think I am using a different version of dhcp (debian), as it is 
 responding to /etc/defaults/dhcp, now it is basically asking me the same 
 thing.
 
 Jul  7 20:21:24 erupt dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth2 (0.0.0.0).

This says eth2 doesn't have an address so can't associate a dchp zone
with it ?

 
 
 
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[SLUG] RE: Re: Your text

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[SLUG] Home LAN IP details

2004-07-08 Thread bill
I have a home LAN  - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected 
to the 'Net via a modem/router.

The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP.
AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch 
to which the PC is connected, and as  each PC is running a different OS or 
Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as 
ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse  and is 
accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the 
hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN?

I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck.
thanks in advance
BILL
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Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details

2004-07-08 Thread Dean Hamstead
your modem/router shoul dbe able to tell you leases
or 'arp -a' will tell you what your computer knows about
Dean
bill wrote:
I have a home LAN  - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and 
connected to the 'Net via a modem/router.

The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP.
AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet 
switch to which the PC is connected, and as  each PC is running a 
different OS or Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic 
commands such as ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without 
monitor/keyboard/mouse  and is accessed via tightvnc, is there a command 
or a GUI that will give me the hostnames and IP's of each PC connected 
to the LAN?

I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck.
thanks in advance
BILL
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Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details

2004-07-08 Thread Brett Fenton

nmap -sP xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24

where the xxx's are your subnet. typically it will be something like 
192.168.0.0/24 or 10.1.1.0/24

this is assuming your machines are responding to pings

b

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:44 pm, bill wrote:
 I have a home LAN  - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected
 to the 'Net via a modem/router.

 The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP.

 AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch
 to which the PC is connected, and as  each PC is running a different OS or
 Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as
 ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse  and is
 accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the
 hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN?

 I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck.

 thanks in advance

 BILL
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Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details

2004-07-08 Thread Stuart Guthrie
ping -b 192.168.1.255 will show you replies from each attached computer
on that subnet.

HTH

Stu

On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 14:51, Brett Fenton wrote:
 nmap -sP xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24
 
 where the xxx's are your subnet. typically it will be something like 
 192.168.0.0/24 or 10.1.1.0/24
 
 this is assuming your machines are responding to pings
 
 b
 
 On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:44 pm, bill wrote:
  I have a home LAN  - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected
  to the 'Net via a modem/router.
 
  The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP.
 
  AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch
  to which the PC is connected, and as  each PC is running a different OS or
  Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as
  ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse  and is
  accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the
  hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN?
 
  I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck.
 
  thanks in advance
 
  BILL

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[SLUG] Patches from non-carbon based life forms

2004-07-08 Thread Andrew Cowie
So on PLUG's mailing list shows up a posting about some Linux distro
that is in use at NASA for flight hardware. 

Came this reply:

http://mail.plug.linux.org.au/pipermail/plug/2004-July/054960.html

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RE: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details

2004-07-08 Thread Visser, Martin
Usually each of your PCs will register their hostname with the DHCP
server when they ask it for an IP. Your modem/router will probably have
a web page (look for status or somesuch) that will reveal the names, IP
address and MAC (ethernet) address it knows about. Often they also act
as a DNS and as such will also reveal the name to IP address mapping via
DNS. You can query this with the command nslookup hostname
router_ip.

A lot of these router/modems even support WINS (the old Windows
dynamic name service), you can query this with nmblookup -U router_ip
-R hostname.

BTW Almost certainly the IP allocated is not associated with the
physical port. Usually allocation is simply out of the next one
available in the pool of addresses for DHCP. 

Martin Visser ,CISSP
Network and Security Consultant 
Consulting  Integration
Technology Solutions Group - HP Services

3 Richardson Place 
North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia 

Phone: +61-2-9022-1670
Mobile: +61-411-254-513
Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 
E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com
 
 

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 Subject: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details
 
 
 I have a home LAN  - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch 
 and connected to the 'Net via a modem/router.
 
 The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP.
 
 AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the 
 ethernet switch to which the PC is connected, and as  each PC 
 is running a different OS or Linux distro ( some of which are 
 lacking access to basic commands such as ifconfig), and 1 PC 
 is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse  and is accessed 
 via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me 
 the hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN?
 
 I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck.
 
 thanks in advance
 
 BILL
 
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