Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu issue.. (X windows)
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 15:33 +1000, Michael Fox wrote: Looks like my install has issues.. I am getting dep errors... think I will trash it and try it at home on my adsl link at some stage... A reinstall ought not be necessary. try the following: sudo apt-get update sudo aptitude install '~tubuntu-desktop' If you see those errors again then it is most likely your /etc/apt/sources.list that has the problems. I can send you a copy of a good one. If you do go down the re-install route, install it all off CD then edit the sources.list post-install to update or get additional packages. -- The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. -- William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu newness
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: I'm also trying to set up GnomeMeeting, but even though I can induce feedback using alsamixer (implying that both speakers and mike are working), GnomeMeeting's test is implacably silent :( Ditto for GnomeMeeting's video. Did you hit the space bar when 'mic' was selected to turn on the 'capture' flag? Hmm I was sure I did, but perhaps with all the fiddling around, I didn't quite get the right combinations :( Audio is now working, but video is not. I can get video from my webcam using Camorama, so all is plugged in correctly. GnomeMeeting gives no Video Plugin options, so presumably that's the problem, but what to do about it? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RFC for IP
Hi Can any one tell me what the relevant RFC is to read in regards to IP and tcp/udp! Been looking at 791 Alex signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RFC for IP
Alexander Samad wrote: Hi Can any one tell me what the relevant RFC is to read in regards to IP and tcp/udp! Been looking at 791 There are hundreds related to TCP/IP. Start with RFC 1180 (TCP/IP Tutorial). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] moving /usr partition
I need to move my /usr partition from one hd to another... any suggestions as to best practice here ? thanks Rod -- --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RFC for IP
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 16:28 +1000, Alexander Samad wrote: Hi Can any one tell me what the relevant RFC is to read in regards to IP and tcp/udp! Been looking at 791 This page seems to be a good starting point as well as linking to the relevant RFCs... http://www.protocols.com/pbook/tcpip2.htm Cheers, John... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] moving /usr partition
Rod Butcher wrote: I need to move my /usr partition from one hd to another... any suggestions as to best practice here ? I've found rsync to be pretty good for this. Shut down to single user mode (telinit 1). Unmount all partitions you aren't using (e.g. /home) Make sure your filesystems are created OK, e.g: mke2fs -j -L /usr /dev/newfs Mount the new /usr filesystem mkdir /mnt/newfs mount /dev/newfs /mnt/newfs rsync the files cd /usr rsync -a . /mnt/newfs edit your /etc/fstab or relabel your old /usr file system (or else you will have two filesystems both labelled /usr), reboot, and you should be away. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu newness
quote who=David Once installed it looks very pretty and slick, but during the install, all the packages downloaded from the net instead of from the CD. Did I do something wrong? I never found Debian hard to install before, so this is just slightly easier. If you download the Preview CD, as opposed to a recent nightly CD, a huge chunk of the packages would have been updated. Some definitely came from the CD, but it still would have been a big download. :-) 1: Windows. I had WinME and debian already installed. During the disk partition phase Ubuntu asked if I wanted to be able to boot from Windows, but after installation completed, grub wasn't reporting any options for Windows. I've not had to deal with this before, since both Woody and Sarge Just worked ;-) See point 6 below. Intriguing, this should just work. 2: Screensaver. When you (initially?) set the screensaver, you have to reboot the daemon, which is not explained. I figured it out by fiddling around. Nit-picking? I don't think so because Ubuntu claims that everything will just work. All that's needed is an Apply button. xscreensaver is an unfortunate exception to pretty much any GNOME rule you could think of, though only some of the options require a daemon restart. 3: Hot plugging cameras. My Nikon hot plugged beautifully, but as explained at the slug meeting, you can't upload anything from the inbuilt software because of a known bug. OTOH, I can use the camera as a removeable USB device and it works fine. I tried to umount it, but it was reported as in use. No obvious processes using it, so i just switched it off. I still don't know why it appeared to be in use. Unfortunately, the file monitor daemon (fam) that ships with WartyWarthog is annoyingly broken in this respect. Because the device is mounted 'sync', you can just pull it out, but the new file monitor daemon (and kernel features) in HoaryHedgehog will solve this. 4: Gnomemeeting. Page 7/9 of the configuration druid asks me to choose a video manager, and suggests video4linux. Video4Linux is not available in the drop down menu (in fact, nothing is!). There are some Video4Linux libraries installed by default, but I have no idea if these are what is required. There is no obvious way to configure them into Gnomemeeting. I had a logitech webcam plugged in when booting, which appeared to be detected, and which works under windows. Right now I don't have GnomeMeeting working :( Which model camera? 5: Sound. Inserting my favourite Mahler CD automatically started up a CD player (good!), but no sound came out (bad!). Maybe Ubuntu doesn't like Mahler. Now I have to get Grub to notice Windows to make sure it's not a hardware fault. Damn it. I hate this problem. So, modern computers don't have an audio cable running from the CD drive to the sound card. They actually have to digitally 'rip' the audio off the disc to play it, *exactly* the same way an mp3/ogg ripper would do. It's infuriating. But - it will be sorted in the next release. :) 6: Grub. A little digging revealed a hidden-menu option for grub, which for some bizarre reason had been set. Hold down ESC while grub loads and voila! but since I obviously want to be able to boot Windows, this is a failure of the just works principle. Agree, if you've got more than just Windows, it should probably not do that. I'll confer with Colin, our installer guy. ;-) 9: Application Menu. Hmm.. well, maybe it's me, but... . I wanted to add an application to the menu.. which I haven't done before because I have never used Gnome. The help menu has no search function! Eventually I figured out how to add a program to the menu, but it's counter-intuitive and complicated. Indeed. Not something GNOME has attempted to fix, because it's horribly ugly code down there. I believe this will be sorted in GNOME 2.10 (and thus our next release). 10: File Manager. Perhaps a small point, but confusing. The on-line docs for Gnome refer extensively to file manager, but nowhere in the Ubuntu desktop menus is anything that says file manager. Now that I know what they mean it's blindingly obvious, but it took quit a while to figure it out. Is this because I'm a mac user? :-) It's a promising start, but not as good as OS X, especially for a non-geek. Patience. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ Are you XFire's crazy girlfriend? And if so, shine on you crazy diamond! - Paul Cameron -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu newness
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David wrote: If someone can help me with Video4Linux/GnomeMeeting and the sound issue, I would appreciate it. Thanks very much for the report. I can't help you with the sound but about the camera - I had it working well after installing debian's qc-usb-source and qc-usb-utils modules and compiling the module. It's turned out that the bug is known and relates to GnomeMeeting. The fix has made things worse :( but I'm sure it will get sorted. The camera is a logitech webcam and works fine in other apps. What kind of sound hardware do you have there? The alsa-users mailing list was extremly responsive and helpful when I tried to make ALSA work for me. You might want to try there (and dig the alsa-project.org web site). The card is a Maestro3. It was turned off by default (!) although the desktop icon showed sound levels at maximum. Right click on the icon and play with mixers got it all working. Nothing serious, but definitely annoying. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] tar problem
Hi, I have a slight tar problem (no I haven't been smoking!) I have a tar file foo.tar when I extract it, it has the the following error messages tar xvf foo.tar ~ ../ tar: ../: Member name contains `..' ../tmp/ tar: ../tmp/: Member name contains `..' ../tmp/foo.tar.gz tar: ../tmp/foo.tar.gz: Member name contains `..' ../237_autumn03_outline.doc tar: ../237_autumn03_outline.doc: Member name contains `..' ../assTemplate.doc tar: ../assTemplate.doc: Member name contains `..' ../bibRefEd7.doc tar: ../bibRefEd7.doc: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/ tar: ../completedModules/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/ tar: ../completedModules/itc129/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ tar: ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ass1/ tar: ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ass1/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ass1/ass1.doc ~ apparently I have tarred it up using the parent directory. I can't remember doing that. The first few lines are also curious. the file foo.tar.gz lives in the 'tmp' directory, where I've made a copy of it to *play* with. It's in the tmp directory that I have carr is there any way I can retrieve these files? currently there is no output. somehow I need to trick tar into thinking that everything should go into the current directory, any ideas? thanks, Luke -- Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] tar problem correction
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 23:12, Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit wrote: Hi, I have a slight tar problem (no I haven't been smoking!) I have a tar file foo.tar when I extract it, it has the the following error messages tar xvf foo.tar ~ ../ tar: ../: Member name contains `..' ../tmp/ tar: ../tmp/: Member name contains `..' ../tmp/foo.tar.gz tar: ../tmp/foo.tar.gz: Member name contains `..' ../237_autumn03_outline.doc tar: ../237_autumn03_outline.doc: Member name contains `..' ../assTemplate.doc tar: ../assTemplate.doc: Member name contains `..' ../bibRefEd7.doc tar: ../bibRefEd7.doc: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/ tar: ../completedModules/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/ tar: ../completedModules/itc129/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ tar: ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ass1/ tar: ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ass1/: Member name contains `..' ../completedModules/itc129/assignments/ass1/ass1.doc ~ apparently I have tarred it up using the parent directory. I can't remember doing that. The first few lines are also curious. the file foo.tar.gz lives in the 'tmp' directory, where I've made a copy of it to *play* with. It's in the tmp directory that I have carried out the command. is there any way I can retrieve these files? currently there is no output. somehow I need to trick tar into thinking that everything should go into the current directory, any ideas? thanks, Luke -- Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 -- Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL and DNS
Michael Fox wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:29:04 +1000, Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks for the quick reply. The ADSL modem is a modem router. It has a USB and four ethernet ports. My Linux firewall is connected to it via an ethernet cable and is on eth0. hence the 10.x range. Are you saying I've got to configure the ADSL modem router to be a dumb device and so it has to pass the public IP to the USB? interface on the Linux box? (if so i'll have to figure out how the make the ADSL modem do it... any clues here???) You need to tell your ADSL router to port forward the service you want through (and where to). ie. I run a webserver on the linux firewall and its ip is 10.0.0.8 I'd then tell my ADSL router in its port forwarding rules to allow TCP 80 through, and send itr to 10.0.0.8 That way when someone externally accesses our public ip on port 80 TCP it passes through the router as per the port forwarding rules. You could do this for DNS the same way. Thanks Also make sure for DNS you forward both TCP and UDP port 53. This cought me the first time. - Karl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] tar problem
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:12:38 +0930, Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a slight tar problem (no I haven't been smoking!) I have a tar file foo.tar when I extract it, it has the the following error messages tar xvf foo.tar Have you tried; tar xvf foo.tar . Not sure if it will work.. but soon find out :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] .pub files on linux
Can anyone suggest an application for viewing .pub files; apart from M$ Publisher? I have tried Open Office 1.1.1 but nothing seems apprporiate. Cheers -- Chris Henman RedBox microSystems ABN 70 946 135 312 Phone: +61 2 6161 4640 Mobile: 0421 597 333 Powered by Linux - Democracy in Information Technology. begin:vcard fn:Christopher Henman n:Henman;Christopher org:RedBox microSystems adr:;;PO Box 539;Mawson;ACT;2607;Australia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:(02) 6161 4640 tel;cell:0421 597 333 version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
Hi all, For those of you who have tried Ubuntu (or Jeff and the other developers) I have a couple of quick questions before I install it on some of my machines. 1. What is the hardware support like in it, and is it possible to get the 2.6 series kernel installed ? I ask principally because the AGP driver I need is only available in the 2.6 kernel AFAIK. 2. What is it like for recompiling kernels for specific drivers ? I have a similar problem to the above with a DVB card that has working drivers, but the drivers are a kernel patch at the moment. 3. Does it have nice easy support for setting up things like NFS and Samba ? 4. Do you have to fight with the system to install hand rolled software and the like ? It seems like you might based on the demo Jeff gave, but maybe not. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm keen to give ubuntu a go. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
quote who=Jason Rennie 1. What is the hardware support like in it, and is it possible to get the 2.6 series kernel installed ? I ask principally because the AGP driver I need is only available in the 2.6 kernel AFAIK. 2.6 by default (and we only support a 2.4 kernel for specific server requirements). The hardware support and detection is really good. 2. What is it like for recompiling kernels for specific drivers ? I have a similar problem to the above with a DVB card that has working drivers, but the drivers are a kernel patch at the moment. You should be able to install the kernel headers package and go. 3. Does it have nice easy support for setting up things like NFS and Samba ? Not for serving, yet. 4. Do you have to fight with the system to install hand rolled software and the like ? It seems like you might based on the demo Jeff gave, but maybe not. Two answers: a) you should never have to hand roll stuff (this is Debian), and b) use GNU stow if you ever have to do it (makes life easier on any system). - Jeff -- GNOME Boston Summit October 9-11, 2004 MySQL supporters are like people who believe that the moon landings were a hoax. No matter what contrary information they're confronted with, they still consider MySQL to be the best. - ttfkam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
Hi Jason, I took the plunge with Ubuntu myself last night on an old Dell C600 Laptop. All I had to do was insert the CD, choose a few options, type a couple of things, hit enter a couple of times, and 30mins later I was running a bleeding edge distro, 2.6 kernel, Gnome 2.8, etc, etc. I had to install samba (client tools were installed by default, but not the server) to browse my shares (on a Debian box) using Nautilus. The Network Configuration utility is sweet, makes it very easy to configure your eth/samba/dns without getting your hands dirty. I haven't compiled a kernel on Ubuntu yet, but considering it's essentially Debian I don't see why it would be a problem. Also, I don't see why you'd have any problems rolling your own software. Anyhow, I definitely recommend installing Ubuntu (it's much nicer than running Debian - Sid) and based on what I've seen I'm looking forward to the future releases (eg. X.org 6.8). nullobject On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:16:23 +1000, Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, For those of you who have tried Ubuntu (or Jeff and the other developers) I have a couple of quick questions before I install it on some of my machines. 1. What is the hardware support like in it, and is it possible to get the 2.6 series kernel installed ? I ask principally because the AGP driver I need is only available in the 2.6 kernel AFAIK. 2. What is it like for recompiling kernels for specific drivers ? I have a similar problem to the above with a DVB card that has working drivers, but the drivers are a kernel patch at the moment. 3. Does it have nice easy support for setting up things like NFS and Samba ? 4. Do you have to fight with the system to install hand rolled software and the like ? It seems like you might based on the demo Jeff gave, but maybe not. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm keen to give ubuntu a go. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] .pub files on linux
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:41 pm, Chris Henman wrote: Can anyone suggest an application for viewing .pub files; apart from M$ Publisher? I have tried Open Office 1.1.1 but nothing seems apprporiate. To the best of my knowledge there is nothing that can read .pub format. Strings will may get you the text but not the formatting - Richard Hayes Nada Marketing 2/713 Pacific Hwy Gordon Australia 2072 Phone:+(61-2) 9418 4545 Fax:+(61-2) 9418 4348 Mob:+(61) 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
2.6 by default (and we only support a 2.4 kernel for specific server requirements). The hardware support and detection is really good. Thats good. In fact that is perfect :D 3. Does it have nice easy support for setting up things like NFS and Samba ? Not for serving, yet. But i'm guessing it is no harder than installing the appropriate package and tehn setting up an exports file right ? Two answers: a) you should never have to hand roll stuff (this is Debian), and b) use GNU stow if you ever have to do it (makes life easier on any system). I might have to hand roll stuff if I want mythtv to work. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:51:23 +1000, Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have to hand roll stuff if I want mythtv to work. It would be nice to see some mythtv packages created. Although I am guessing these will come along with the other software still to merge into the archive. Aside from my problems yesterday, I must say kudos to the developers. Ubuntu is nice. The way I'd describe it... it reminds me of a fedora out of the box install (ie. nice polished X windows) except with deb backend. (rather then rpm based) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
quote who=Joshua Bassett I had to install samba (client tools were installed by default, but not the server) to browse my shares (on a Debian box) using Nautilus. You shouldn't have to install samba to browse shares in Nautilus, it uses libsmbclient. - Jeff -- GNOME Boston Summit October 9-11, 2004 Man, is there some worldwide consipiracy to supply me with doctored dictionaries or something? - Adrian van den Dries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
quote who=Jason Rennie 3. Does it have nice easy support for setting up things like NFS and Samba ? Not for serving, yet. But i'm guessing it is no harder than installing the appropriate package and tehn setting up an exports file right ? Yep, and all the required packages are supported. Two answers: a) you should never have to hand roll stuff (this is Debian), and b) use GNU stow if you ever have to do it (makes life easier on any system). I might have to hand roll stuff if I want mythtv to work. As it happens, one of the mythtv developers is on the team, and would be very happy to accept universe updates for the mythtv software. - Jeff -- GNOME Boston Summit October 9-11, 2004 The worst vice is ad-vice. - Al Pacino, The Devil's Advocate -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:55:30 +1000, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shouldn't have to install samba to browse shares in Nautilus, it uses libsmbclient. That's what I thought, but Nautilus was just sitting there doing nothing when I tried to browse the network. After I installed samba it started working straight away...hmm, is it just that it took some time for smbclient to find the shares? nullobject -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
quote who=Joshua Bassett You shouldn't have to install samba to browse shares in Nautilus, it uses libsmbclient. That's what I thought, but Nautilus was just sitting there doing nothing when I tried to browse the network. After I installed samba it started working straight away...hmm, is it just that it took some time for smbclient to find the shares? Ah, it might be to do with workgroup configuration. Try removing samba with 'apt-get remove --purge samba samba-common' and adding the following to your home directory: ~/.smb/smb.conf WORKGROUP = workgroup (You could also just copy your smb.conf file from /etc/samba before you purge it, too.) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ It is said that there are only six jokes in the world, and I can assure you that we can only broadcast three of them... - John Watt, the BBC's Head of Variety in the 30's -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 09:18, Jeff Waugh wrote: Ah, it might be to do with workgroup configuration. Try removing samba with 'apt-get remove --purge samba samba-common' and adding the following to your home directory: ~/.smb/smb.conf WORKGROUP = workgroup Interesting! Didn't know that was there. How does it handle authentication. I think it asked me once. Can the auth details be cleared out somewhere? P.S. When will CD's be sent? Should I download the current pre-release rather than waiting (patiently)! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
quote who=Simon Wong How does it handle authentication. I think it asked me once. Nautilus/gnome-vfs use gnome-keyring to ask for auth details. Can the auth details be cleared out somewhere? The keyrings are stored in ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ but there is no keyring manager shipping with GNOME yet. There is a gnome-keyring-manager app though, which just needs some UI love before it's added. P.S. When will CD's be sent? Should I download the current pre-release rather than waiting (patiently)! End of October, after the Final release. We've just put out a Sounder 9 CD, so you could grab that, or just grab the dailies. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ Toothpaste is the most important meal of the day. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:37:28 +1000, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ I think it's: http://conf.linux.org.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
linux.conf.au [Was: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...]
quote who=Joshua Bassett On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:37:28 +1000, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ I think it's: http://conf.linux.org.au/ No way man, it's totally linux.conf.au. That's why the conference is called linux.conf.au. It would be a totally crap conference if it were called conf.linux.org.au. That'd be CLOA instead of LCA. That would SUCK ARSE. (What I'm trying to say is - there's a DNS issue somewhere in there atm.) - Jeff -- GNOME Boston Summit October 9-11, 2004 Science helps a lot, but people built perfectly good brick walls long before they knew why cement works. - Alan Cox -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: linux.conf.au [Was: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...]
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:45:17 +1000, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (What I'm trying to say is - there's a DNS issue somewhere in there atm.) That's all I meant... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] tar problem
Luke == Luke Vanderfluit Luke writes: Luke Hi, I have a slight tar problem (no I haven't been smoking!) Luke I have a tar file foo.tar when I extract it, it has the the Luke following error messages pax -r -s '/^\.\././' foo.tar Tar can't fix this one; pax can. (You may need to install pax -- it's the POSIX answer to create peace after the tar vs cpio wars, and can read and write both formats) -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: linux.conf.au [Was: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...]
Jeff Waugh wrote: No way man, it's totally linux.conf.au. That's why the conference is called linux.conf.au. It would be a totally crap conference if it were called conf.linux.org.au. That'd be CLOA instead of LCA. That would SUCK ARSE. Like as in cloaca (or a bird's arse) {:-) -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures Bicycles, Computers, GIS, Printing, Publishing People without trees are like fish without clean water -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] .pub files on linux
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 22:55, Richard Hayes wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:41 pm, Chris Henman wrote: Can anyone suggest an application for viewing .pub files; apart from M$ Publisher? I have tried Open Office 1.1.1 but nothing seems apprporiate. To the best of my knowledge there is nothing that can read .pub format. Strings will may get you the text but not the formatting It's a classic case of vendor lockin, and most of their own other product won't handle it either. - Richard Hayes Nada Marketing 2/713 Pacific Hwy Gordon Australia 2072 Phone:+(61-2) 9418 4545 Fax:+(61-2) 9418 4348 Mob:+(61) 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates; Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: linux.conf.au [Was: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...]
Like as in cloaca (or a bird's arse) {:-) Thats still got to be better than the Commitee for the Liberation and Intergration of Terrofying Organisms and there Rehabilitation Into Socitey. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux wuz 'ere??
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200409/s1209349.htm Hackers attack Al Qaeda-linked websites Hackers have attacked a website of an Al Qaeda-linked group, that beheaded two US hostages in Iraq, re-routing visitors to a page showing a penguin toting a machine gun and warning against hosting such sites. The site of the Tawhid and Jihad Group of Al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, set up on a site providing free web hosting, last week carried a tape of British hostage Kenneth Bigley appealing for his life as well as videos of the decapitation of the two US hostages. Host them and your next! was the message left on the site by the hackers, calling themselves TeAmZ USA, who have already attacked several Islamist and pro-Al Qaeda websites. Zarqawi's group has threatened to kill Bigley next if women prisoners in Iraq are not released, but has not set a deadline. Al Qaeda and other militant groups have widely used the Internet to spread their message, often using sites providing free web hosting and frequently moving after their sites have been taken down. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates; Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] .pub files on linux
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:52, Howard Lowndes wrote: It's a classic case of vendor lockin, and most of their own other product won't handle it either. There has not been sufficient demand for it. I have seen only a handful of enquiries about .pub format @ OOo. Can you save in Word format from publisher then import that. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] .pub files on linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 it would be nice for oo to have a desktop publishing application i dont know of any opensource app that would be comparable to publisher or the adobe offerings. flame away id be happy to see one one could run publisher in wine? Dean Ken Foskey wrote: | On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:52, Howard Lowndes wrote: | | | |It's a classic case of vendor lockin, and most of their own other |product won't handle it either. | | | There has not been sufficient demand for it. I have seen only a handful | of enquiries about .pub format @ OOo. | | Can you save in Word format from publisher then import that. | - -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBWjpCI1HDX08lY+ARAjyhAKDSpw7Jdt8aOxqz/nS+RmzgMNx5fgCeMTtp 4NhPgWS04okdRUE8W2rwH60= =I4zS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] .pub files on linux
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 14:29, Dean Hamstead wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- it would be nice for oo to have a desktop publishing application Obligatory answer, OpenOffice.org is great. What about scribus? -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: linux.conf.au [Was: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...]
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 09:15, Jeff Waugh wrote: http://conf.linux.org.au/ No way man, it's totally linux.conf.au. That's why the conference is called linux.conf.au. It would be a totally crap conference if it were called conf.linux.org.au. That'd be CLOA instead of LCA. The linux.conf.au domain has expired (as .conf.au domains, being temporary, must). We're get a renewal waiting in Robert Elz's Inbox. -- Glen Turner Tel: (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Australia's Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html