Re: [SLUG] proxy
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 03:50 pm, Robert Tillsley wrote: > Thanks for the advice guys. What I am looking for is transparent > authentication. Someone else has just told me that dansguardian won't > work with ntlm authentication and AD groups, so I might have to > reconsider this. > > Cheers > > Robert Tillsley Another option might be "squidguard" which is a standard Squid redirector. AFAIK this works with NTLM authentication (it did in our testing anyway). James -- There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more. -- Woody Allen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] proxy
On Thu, October 7, 2004 5:24 pm, James Gray said: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 03:50 pm, Robert Tillsley wrote: >> Thanks for the advice guys. What I am looking for is transparent >> authentication. Someone else has just told me that dansguardian won't >> work with ntlm authentication and AD groups, so I might have to >> reconsider this. >> >> Cheers >> >> Robert Tillsley > > Another option might be "squidguard" which is a standard Squid redirector. > AFAIK this works with NTLM authentication (it did in our testing anyway). Cept DG is a very effective 'content' filter which is very useful in schools, squidguard AFAIK is url/ip based. You can use Squid with authentication and DG, the hassle is that DG needs to connecto to a proxy, so the normal trick is to point it at the ISP's proxy. You can't put it in front of Squid if you want to authenticate. -- Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] proxy
James Gray wrote: transparent proxy: means all your outgoing port 80/443 requests are transparently redirected to the proxy irrespective of the users' proxy configuration. This is usually done at the perimeter router/firewall using iptables and destination NAT (or similar). Whilst transparent proxying sounds attractive you CANNOT use this AND authentication at the same time. Think about it; if you were connecting to "www.foo.com" and got prompted for authentication credentials from something other than "www.foo.com" when you weren't expecting it, would be considered a "man-in-the-middle" type attack. However, if your browser is I thought you couldn't transparent proxy SSL for the same man-in-the-middle reason. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
Evening All, Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based "player" that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be calling it via PHP. If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. TIA, Paul -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
Sorry Paul, No idea, but while the list is at it, I'm keen to go AVI to MPEG!! Tried avi2mpeg but the command failed. ;-) Any ideas Stu BTW HTML email is a bad look for character mail readers. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 19:56, Paul Robinson wrote: > Evening All, > > Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based > "player" that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in > that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux > based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find > anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to > try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes > up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. > > Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be > calling it via PHP. > > If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. > > TIA, > Paul > > > __ > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Hi all, I just acquired a new Sony Ericsson z1010 mobile phone. Anybody know if it is possible to get them talking to a linux box for file transfer ? I plugged it into my ubuntu box and the device manger at least brought up some information for the phone. I wonder how hard it would be to write a device driver for it. Anybody know where to begin ? Seems like an interesting project for me to have a stab at. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
Subtle :) Forgot the ole "try a 2 instead of to" trick. Downloading mpeg2avi as we speak... or type... Apologies for the HTML seems I'd neglected to add SLUG to the Thunderbirds list of plain text recipients. Thanks again, Paul Stuart Guthrie wrote: Sorry Paul, No idea, but while the list is at it, I'm keen to go AVI to MPEG!! Tried avi2mpeg but the command failed. ;-) Any ideas Stu BTW HTML email is a bad look for character mail readers. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 19:56, Paul Robinson wrote: Evening All, Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based "player" that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be calling it via PHP. If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. TIA, Paul __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
Thanks to BenDL, here's my a variation on problem solved I think: cat scripts/divxmake.sh # script starts mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vpass=1 -oac copy -o $1.divx.avi mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vpass=2 -oac copy -o $1.divx.avi # script ends. Does a 2 pass encode to divx format, adapted from here: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg4.html Thanks Ben Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:34, Paul Robinson wrote: > Subtle :) > > Forgot the ole "try a 2 instead of to" trick. Downloading mpeg2avi as we > speak... or type... > > Apologies for the HTML seems I'd neglected to add SLUG to the > Thunderbirds list of plain text recipients. > > Thanks again, > Paul > > Stuart Guthrie wrote: > > >Sorry Paul, > > > >No idea, but while the list is at it, I'm keen to go AVI to MPEG!! > > > >Tried avi2mpeg but the command failed. ;-) > > > >Any ideas > > > >Stu > > > >BTW HTML email is a bad look for character mail readers. > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 19:56, Paul Robinson wrote: > > > > > >>Evening All, > >> > >>Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based > >>"player" that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in > >>that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux > >>based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find > >>anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to > >>try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes > >>up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. > >> > >>Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be > >>calling it via PHP. > >> > >>If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. > >> > >>TIA, > >>Paul > >> > >> > >>__ > >>-- > >>SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > >>Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > >> > >> > > > > > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Are you using bluetooth? KBluetooth works well with P800's yours is newer so probably even better. There is probably an equiv to Kbluetooth for Gnome. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:28, Jason Rennie wrote: > Hi all, > > I just acquired a new Sony Ericsson z1010 mobile phone. > > Anybody know if it is possible to get them talking to a linux box for > file transfer ? > > I plugged it into my ubuntu box and the device manger at least brought > up some information for the phone. > > I wonder how hard it would be to write a device driver for it. > > Anybody know where to begin ? Seems like an interesting project for me > to have a stab at. > > Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Stuart Guthrie wrote: Are you using bluetooth? KBluetooth works well with P800's yours is newer so probably even better. There is probably an equiv to Kbluetooth for Gnome. There are at least three bluetooth packages to connect Buetooth devices to Linux including Mobile Phones. The most popular is BlueZ. Check this site. http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
oops sent a whole heap of mails directly rather than on-list. whilst we are converting, does any one know of a anything or frame sequence to sorrensen video encoder. Open source or not for linux? I use shake now, but thats horribly expensive, Its cheaper for me to buy an apple computer that I can use shake with for no cost. On 07/10/2004, at 8:52 PM, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Thanks to BenDL, here's my a variation on problem solved I think: cat scripts/divxmake.sh # script starts mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vpass=1 -oac copy -o $1.divx.avi mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vpass=2 -oac copy -o $1.divx.avi # script ends. Does a 2 pass encode to divx format, adapted from here: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg4.html Thanks Ben Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:34, Paul Robinson wrote: Subtle :) Forgot the ole "try a 2 instead of to" trick. Downloading mpeg2avi as we speak... or type... Apologies for the HTML seems I'd neglected to add SLUG to the Thunderbirds list of plain text recipients. Thanks again, Paul Stuart Guthrie wrote: Sorry Paul, No idea, but while the list is at it, I'm keen to go AVI to MPEG!! Tried avi2mpeg but the command failed. ;-) Any ideas Stu BTW HTML email is a bad look for character mail readers. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 19:56, Paul Robinson wrote: Evening All, Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based "player" that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be calling it via PHP. If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. TIA, Paul __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value from what is offered? With more members coming in is 100x times going to change to 10x? I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you 2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how does open-skills market it self? Does some one check that the people who list information list only true and correct information? bd On 07/10/2004, at 2:36 PM, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Hi Taryn In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member. Other members have similar stories. Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more skills searching and more work for members. Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only excellent services for the members. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote: Taryn wrote: Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for. An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best interests of members. Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for members. If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it. All the best, Bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
What I really wanted was USB support. I don't have a bluetooth enabled computer to connect to. Jason On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:04:32 +1000, O Plameras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stuart Guthrie wrote: > > >Are you using bluetooth? > > > >KBluetooth works well with P800's yours is newer so probably even > >better. > > > >There is probably an equiv to Kbluetooth for Gnome. > > > > > > > There are at least three bluetooth packages to connect Buetooth > devices to Linux including Mobile Phones. The most popular is BlueZ. > > Check this site. > > http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth > > > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Jason Rennie wrote: What I really wanted was USB support. I don't have a bluetooth enabled computer to connect to. If you have Linux you can buy USB Bluetooth dongle, install and configure Bluez package software then rock'n roll. If you are in Sydney, you can buy good brands of Bluetooth dongle device on Sundays at Westfield North Rocks every Sunday. I have tested Billionton and Cadmus Bluetooth USB. You can buy class 1 ( up to 100m range) or class 2 (up to 10m range). I buy class 1 Bluetooth dongle for half of the price offered by well established Computer Shops. I believe a USB cable kit from your Mobile to Linux will also work but I have not done this. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 21:07, Ben de Luca wrote: > Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value > from what is offered? > Some extra value yes. Some of the work has come from meeting other members. With more members coming in is 100x times going > to change to 10x? > The level of interest from head hunters, other members etc will also increase. I'd anticipate more rather than less opportunity. > I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you > 2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills > might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how > does open-skills market it self? > Word of mouth. Web site. Skills base. Networking. We're running on a very small budget and these methods are currently the most effective. > Does some one check that the people who list information list only true > and correct information? > No but honesty obviously is always the best policy. If you don't have the skill, you're not going to be hired for very long and definately not recommended on. There is talk of a peer-review process where members can rate others on projects they've worked on or some such. Nothing's decided yet. Most issue to do with openskills are debated on the mailing list for a while before the committee decide. HTH Stu > bd > On 07/10/2004, at 2:36 PM, Stuart Guthrie wrote: > > > Hi Taryn > > > > In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's > > been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These > > opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member. > > > > Other members have similar stories. > > > > Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more > > skills searching and more work for members. > > > > Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only > > excellent services for the members. > > > > > > Stu > > > > > > On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote: > >> Taryn wrote: > >> > >>> Openskills you have to pay for... > >>> I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. > >> > >> We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a > >> number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for. > >> > >> An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. > >> Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to > >> parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best > >> interests of members. > >> > >> Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for > >> members. If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills > >> free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it. > >> > >> All the best, > >>Bruce > > > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
> Jason Rennie wrote: > If you are in Sydney, you can buy good brands of Bluetooth > dongle device on Sundays at Westfield North Rocks every > Sunday. I have tested Billionton and Cadmus Bluetooth USB. > You can buy class 1 ( up to 100m range) or class 2 (up to 10m > range). > > I buy class 1 Bluetooth dongle for half of the price offered by well > established Computer Shops. how much in $$ for class 1 ? brand ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] proxy
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:27 pm, David Kempe wrote: > James Gray wrote: > > transparent proxy: means all your outgoing port 80/443 requests are > > transparently redirected to the proxy irrespective of the users' proxy > > configuration. This is usually done at the perimeter router/firewall > > using iptables and destination NAT (or similar). > > > > > > Whilst transparent proxying sounds attractive you CANNOT use this AND > > authentication at the same time. Think about it; if you were > > connecting to "www.foo.com" and got prompted for authentication > > credentials from something other than "www.foo.com" when you weren't > > expecting it, would be considered a "man-in-the-middle" type attack. > > However, if your browser is > > I thought you couldn't transparent proxy SSL for the same > man-in-the-middle reason. > > dave Correct :) Proxy configured in browser means SSL connections can be proxied (to a certain extent - the data/content isn't cached, but the requests are passed back and forth). In fact we use the proxy at work to "translate" the external web site address to its internal server IP. If users connect to https://ssl.site/ it would resolve to an external address (61.95.x.y), but because the proxy has the internal 192.168.x.y address in it's /etc/hosts file, the users can still use the common (external) name but connect to the internal server...all over SSL and via the proxy :) Means we only need one set of docs and the users can access the site externally (we have a few tele-commuters). Also means we can keep a track of how long users work for when in the office and how long they spend on "other" sites :P James -- Real Programmers don't write in PL/I. PL/I is for programmers who can't decide whether to write in COBOL or FORTRAN. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:42 pm, O Plameras wrote: > on Sundays at Westfield North Rocks every Sunday As opposed to Sundays on every Tuesday for instance :P (Sorry couldn't resist...it's late and I'm tired and had a lng day. So if you get offended, it's just my warped sense of humour - nothing personal :P) James -- Any stone in your boot always migrates against the pressure gradient to exactly the point of most pressure. -- Milt Barber -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Yes I've got a d-link bluetooth usb thingo from everything linux. Works well on Linux, 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. ( Mandrake ). Bluez sits under Kbluetooth from what I've read. KBluetooth makes it useable. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 21:42, O Plameras wrote: > Jason Rennie wrote: > > >What I really wanted was USB support. > > > >I don't have a bluetooth enabled computer to connect to. > > > > > If you have Linux you can buy USB Bluetooth dongle, > install and configure Bluez package software then > rock'n roll. > > If you are in Sydney, you can buy good brands of Bluetooth > dongle device on Sundays at Westfield North Rocks every > Sunday. I have tested Billionton and Cadmus Bluetooth USB. > You can buy class 1 ( up to 100m range) or class 2 (up to 10m > range). > > I buy class 1 Bluetooth dongle for half of the price offered by well > established Computer Shops. > > I believe a USB cable kit from your Mobile to Linux will also > work but I have not done this. > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Voytek wrote: how much in $$ for class 1 ? brand $45.00 for class 1. Brands: 1.Billionton with Cambridge Silicon Radio (CSR) chip and 50cm extension USB cable. 2. Cadmus with CSR chip and 50cm extension USB cable. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Stuart Guthrie wrote: Yes I've got a d-link bluetooth usb thingo from everything linux. Works well on Linux, 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. ( Mandrake ). Bluez sits under Kbluetooth from what I've read. KBluetooth makes it useable. With Linux 2.4 and 2.6, Bluetooth and USB device drivers are packaged with the distribution to run in kernel space. I also enable the Bridge modules because I connect multiple Blutooth devices into the Linux box to make admin a little easier. Then one installs Bluez, at least the libraries and utilities, to run in user space. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] proxy
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 17:24 +1000, James Gray wrote: > Another option might be "squidguard" which is a standard Squid redirector. > AFAIK this works with NTLM authentication (it did in our testing anyway). Seconded. I've used squidguard and squid in this manner many times in the past. Works well. -- You tread upon my patience. -- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)
After inserting the new lines, I decided to try it out on my 'testing' HDD - well, I forgot to save the config file for THAT machine and ... buggered... wouldn't/couldn't start X at ALL. Tried all sorts of things, searched web, looked in mags at home... damn. Thought I'd have to completely reinstall, then... remembered that I HAD saved a copy (some days ago) cp'd that back to /etc/X11 and bingo... back in business :)) (not bad for a newbie - rescued myself!). So back to the inserted lines and ... X fails again. I could quite likely be putting it in the wrong place Should I post the two parts (my XF86Config-4 file and your suggestion)? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
> > __ > From: Ben de Luca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: SLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting > Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:07:59 +1000 > > Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value > from what is offered? With more members coming in is 100x times going > to change to 10x? I can't think of a reason that being on the committee should be an advantage in getting engagements, and I don't think being on the committee should be an advantage. Right now, all the professional engagements are through the SkillsBase, the OpenSkills-dev list, or just word of mouth between members. It's all pretty transparent. OpenSkills is not the market, so demand for professional talent is not really changed by OpenSkills. We hope that OpenSkills is an efficient way for people to find skilled help and so will become one of the first places people will look, and thus we would expect that being a member will give you an edge in marketing your skills. > I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you > 2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills > might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how > does open-skills market it self? Yes, membership of OpenSkills is $20 AUD / year. OpenSkills currently markets itself by word of mouth. The major systems to help members make the most of their skills are coming on stream this year. For example, the membership management and effort tracking systems are due to be rolled out < Christmas. Once all the major systems are in place, we'll be looking at some more explicit means of marketing ourselves. If you have any suggestions as to how we should do this, they would be most welcome. > Does some one check that the people who list information list only true > and correct information? Well, to be a member you need to have your OpenPGP key signed by at least two other members. This gives us something of a handle on who people really are, and makes it hard for a person to pretend to be many people. In the future, we will be adding in cross validation tools to the SkillsBase. The first would be a simple reference, where one member can be a reference for another and agree to be called or emailed - as with a regular reference you might get from an ex employer. Then we'd like to move on to commendations where one member can commend another for a particular skill. ... but we want to be careful and avoid game-able features (e.g. where two members jointly praise each other to the skies), so we'll move slowly. So in short, we try to create a transparent situation where it's hard to cheat. We hope to avoid needing a central screening function. HTH All the best, Bruce -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Having just plugged in my NEC 606 via USB, the phone is correctly recognised by Mandrake 10 - now I've just got to work out how to configure it... anyone else have the same phone? -Original Message- From: Voytek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones > Jason Rennie wrote: > If you are in Sydney, you can buy good brands of Bluetooth dongle > device on Sundays at Westfield North Rocks every Sunday. I have tested > Billionton and Cadmus Bluetooth USB. You can buy class 1 ( up to 100m > range) or class 2 (up to 10m range). > > I buy class 1 Bluetooth dongle for half of the price offered by well > established Computer Shops. how much in $$ for class 1 ? brand ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Terry Collins wrote: In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet. Phrases like; " guarantee any legal liability " " only ten " " provide all services " " retraining resellers " etc. It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies. And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers. The silver-lining is Open Source market in the state will balloon with a big bang. The trickle effect will begin to cascade. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
Matt, All I did was plug it in. It uses software to match pad size to screen size. Some of the Wacom's seem to have buttons to do this (just from the pictures I've seen and what I've been told). I'm using Mandrake 10.0 Official. If you get your's going properly (and same here) let me know. I could be in the market for a second-hand Wacom pad - I've been using this for two years and there's NO-WAY I'd go back to a mouse for graphic work... Just have to keep my other O/S going. The major problem is that Photoshop is VERY resource hungry and so I'd have to keep it on my fastest machine and thus couldn't run Linux to it's best ability :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 1:53 PM To: Elliott-Brennan Cc: 'Kevin Waterson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:) On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote: > Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux > recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up. What did you do to try and use it? I discovered a wacom ultrapad serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out. Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net hardware and info. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
This one time, at band camp, "Elliott-Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using Mandrake 10.0 Official. If you get your's going properly (and > same here) let me know. I could be in the market for a second-hand Wacom > pad - I've been using this for two years and there's NO-WAY I'd go back > to a mouse for graphic work... Just have to keep my other O/S going. The > major problem is that Photoshop is VERY resource hungry and so I'd have > to keep it on my fastest machine and thus couldn't run Linux to it's > best ability :( Currently I do all my graphics on the a G4 iMac using PS. I would like to use The GIMP on linux but cannot get anywhere with it. I even tried a new install with the tablet plugged in but it then could not find the mouse. *sigh* Kevin - "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:05:10 +1000, Ben de Luca wrote > whilst we are converting, does any one know of a anything or frame > sequence to sorrensen video encoder. Open source or not for linux? A few years ago ffmpeg was the only open source program I could find that dealt with frame sequences. Since then it looks like they've increased the number of formats/codecs they support - including sorrenson. http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net -- Nick Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] data recovery from raid
Howzit, One of our raid arrays kicked the bucket over night - 6 drives in a raid 0+1 array, 2 of which have bitten the dust. Can anyone recommend a data recovery company anywhere in Australia who may be able (somehow) to take the disks, work some magic, and recover data from the array? Thanks in advance. cheers, Anth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
The RFT looks like they are trying to source primes to handle large projects. With out having to requiring companies to rebid on every project. I have dealt with a few larger government contracts and I cant see the expertise in the community around slug to be able to fulfill the requirements that exist out side of the technical skills. On 08/10/2004, at 6:25 AM, O Plameras wrote: Terry Collins wrote: In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet. Phrases like; " guarantee any legal liability " " only ten " " provide all services " " retraining resellers " etc. It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies. And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers. The silver-lining is Open Source market in the state will balloon with a big bang. The trickle effect will begin to cascade. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:11:57AM +1000, Anth Courtney wrote: > Howzit, > > One of our raid arrays kicked the bucket over night - 6 drives in a > raid 0+1 array, 2 of which have bitten the dust. > > Can anyone recommend a data recovery company anywhere in Australia who > may be able (somehow) to take the disks, work some magic, and recover > data from the array? > > Thanks in advance. > We have used http://www.doctordisk.com.au/recovery.htm before at iiNet for our data recovery when this sort of thing has happened. Its been a few years now (we can afford backup systems :-), but I haven't heard anything adverse about their service. Glen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Slow Mailserver after ADSL connection
Hello All I have a customer with a network of 20 WinXP PC's and a WinNT Server. I set them up a Redhat box about a year ago as a mail server. The box had a modem hanging off it that dialled each morning and was connected all day to give them internet connectivity. I run getmail to pick up their mail from the ISP and to sort it into the various mailboxes and I use postfix to take care of outgoing mail. I had a simple script set up to take care of NAT and firewall rules to allow the PC's to see the internet if they wanted WEB access. All this ran fine for about a year until they got ADSL installed and did away with the dial up access. What has been done is that the script has been removed, along with everything to do with the dial up modem. The ADSL router is now taking care of the NAT and the PC's all see the internet no worries. I changed the static IP address of this box from192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.5 and have the ADSL router as 192.168.0.1. I changed the nameservers in resolv.conf to reflect the new servers at the new ISP. I also made changes to postfix and getmail so that they deal with the new mail servers at the new ISP. What I now find is that this box is very slow responding to telnet logins from any PC on the network and mail pickup is now very slow. It used to be very fast logging into this box via telnet and also very fast picking up email, now it takes about 8-10 seconds to get a login prompt or for mail to be picked up. I have similar setups with a number of customers and they work fine. Has anyone got any ideas on what I have stuffed up with this box? Regards Richard ___ Richard Luckhurst Manager / Engineer Sound Advice / BSP Internet Services P.O. Box 104 Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone 02 6792 6060 Fax 02 6792 6161 http://www.bsp.aunz.com <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
> The RFT looks like they are trying to source primes to handle large > projects. With out having to requiring companies to rebid on every > project. > > I have dealt with a few larger government contracts and I cant see the > expertise in the community around slug to be able to fulfill the > requirements that exist out side of the technical skills. Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to mention the market-building effects of a move like this. - Jeff -- GNOME Boston Summit October 9-11, 2004 You know a French woman is faking it when she screams, "I would like the table near the window please!" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
And your tape backups are ...? (silly question) If you don't want to pay for the expensive recovery work (yes there is a mob in Melbourne that specialises in data recovery -- someone on this list previously said something about $1000 to $5000 per drive), then the next best option is to recover everyone's work from the junk they keep on their own PC hard drives, and all the printouts they like to keep. BTW I think they will need the whole array, not just the two faulty drives, as the 0+1 data is spread with little pairs all over the whole array. After you recover your data, go look at some offsite storage. If it's for business, try http://www.tape.com.au/ and read over http://www.tape.com.au/tms/industry.htm If it's for home, you still need to devise a system to ensure that if your equipment is broken, lost, catches fire or is stolen you can still rebuild it from scratch and load your data back on. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Anth Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 8 October 2004 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] data recovery from raid Howzit, One of our raid arrays kicked the bucket over night - 6 drives in a raid 0+1 array, 2 of which have bitten the dust. Can anyone recommend a data recovery company anywhere in Australia who may be able (somehow) to take the disks, work some magic, and recover data from the array? Thanks in advance. cheers, Anth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
Anth Courtney wrote: Howzit, One of our raid arrays kicked the bucket over night - 6 drives in a raid 0+1 array, 2 of which have bitten the dust. Can anyone recommend a data recovery company anywhere in Australia who may be able (somehow) to take the disks, work some magic, and recover data from the array? Thanks in advance. cheers, Anth very unusual for two drives to go at the same time. have you gone into the raid card bios at startup and tried to switch the drives from offline to on again. you can with some cards software and you may get one of them up again. might work in a desperate situation and allow data to be pulled off. Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Absolutely, I seem to get the impression that a number of people are considering trying to reply to the tender. Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to mention the market-building effects of a move like this. - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slow Mailserver after ADSL connection
I think you have inconsistent DNS setup and/or Routing configurations. Richard Luckhurst wrote: Hello All I have a customer with a network of 20 WinXP PC's and a WinNT Server. I set them up a Redhat box about a year ago as a mail server. The box had a modem hanging off it that dialled each morning and was connected all day to give them internet connectivity. I run getmail to pick up their mail from the ISP and to sort it into the various mailboxes and I use postfix to take care of outgoing mail. I had a simple script set up to take care of NAT and firewall rules to allow the PC's to see the internet if they wanted WEB access. All this ran fine for about a year until they got ADSL installed and did away with the dial up access. What has been done is that the script has been removed, along with everything to do with the dial up modem. The ADSL router is now taking care of the NAT and the PC's all see the internet no worries. I changed the static IP address of this box from192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.5 and have the ADSL router as 192.168.0.1. I changed the nameservers in resolv.conf to reflect the new servers at the new ISP. I also made changes to postfix and getmail so that they deal with the new mail servers at the new ISP. What I now find is that this box is very slow responding to telnet logins from any PC on the network and mail pickup is now very slow. It used to be very fast logging into this box via telnet and also very fast picking up email, now it takes about 8-10 seconds to get a login prompt or for mail to be picked up. I have similar setups with a number of customers and they work fine. Has anyone got any ideas on what I have stuffed up with this box? Regards Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG -> AVI?
But only sorensen video 1 not video 3 :( On 08/10/2004, at 9:29 AM, Nick Wilcox wrote: number of formats/codecs they support - including sorrenson. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slow Mailserver after ADSL connection
Hi Richard, Sounds like a DNS problem to me. Check this by pinging by name and also by address from the console of the Linux box. Also did you set up a default route to the ADSL router? I hope this helps. Cheers, - Guy. At 11:26 AM 8/10/2004 +1000, you wrote: Hello All I have a customer with a network of 20 WinXP PC's and a WinNT Server. I set them up a Redhat box about a year ago as a mail server. The box had a modem hanging off it that dialled each morning and was connected all day to give them internet connectivity. I run getmail to pick up their mail from the ISP and to sort it into the various mailboxes and I use postfix to take care of outgoing mail. I had a simple script set up to take care of NAT and firewall rules to allow the PC's to see the internet if they wanted WEB access. All this ran fine for about a year until they got ADSL installed and did away with the dial up access. What has been done is that the script has been removed, along with everything to do with the dial up modem. The ADSL router is now taking care of the NAT and the PC's all see the internet no worries. I changed the static IP address of this box from192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.5 and have the ADSL router as 192.168.0.1. I changed the nameservers in resolv.conf to reflect the new servers at the new ISP. I also made changes to postfix and getmail so that they deal with the new mail servers at the new ISP. What I now find is that this box is very slow responding to telnet logins from any PC on the network and mail pickup is now very slow. It used to be very fast logging into this box via telnet and also very fast picking up email, now it takes about 8-10 seconds to get a login prompt or for mail to be picked up. I have similar setups with a number of customers and they work fine. Has anyone got any ideas on what I have stuffed up with this box? Regards Richard ___ Richard Luckhurst Manager / Engineer Sound Advice / BSP Internet Services P.O. Box 104 Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone 02 6792 6060 Fax 02 6792 6161 http://www.bsp.aunz.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Guy Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.traverse.com.au Tel 03 9486 7775 Fax 03 9482 7754 Mobile 0419 398 234 -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
Hey Ben, > very unusual for two drives to go at the same time. > have you gone into the raid card bios at startup and tried to switch the > drives from offline to on again. > you can with some cards software and you may get one of them up again. > might work in a desperate situation and allow data to be pulled off. Yup, we tried this, and while it came online and the array could be mounted, ls'd, etc, attempts to copy data off resulted in io errors. cheers, Anth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
Anth Courtney wrote: Yup, we tried this, and while it came online and the array could be mounted, ls'd, etc, attempts to copy data off resulted in io errors. What is your disk controller ? Rather than your disk drive, can you try and replace your disk controller ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:26:21PM +1000, elliott-brennan wrote: > I could quite likely be putting it in the wrong place > > Should I post the two parts (my XF86Config-4 file and your suggestion)? That's a good idea. We can probably give you a config file to drop in that should work. Then, if it doesn't, it'd be awesome to see the log files; then we can diagnose the fault. It'll be great. James. -- "Now, there are no problems only opportunities. However, this seemed to be an insurmountable opportunity." - http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote:
...snip
> Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
> contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
> mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams.
And the problem is how they will source outside people.
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Re: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:29:34 +1000, Rowling, Jill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And your tape backups are ...? (silly question) Yup, especially silly q as I wasn't asking for a lecture on tape backups, but for data recovery company recommendations. I'm aware of the need for tape backups - in this case I'm just picking up the pieces. For reference (and possible help to someone else), we've gone with Forensic Data who get good reviews and who also are based in Sydney which is convenient for us - most companies seem to be Melb or Bris based. I'll update the list with the succes/failure of the operation for further reference. Thanks to everyone who emailed on-list and off-list with a recommendation. cheers, Anth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
> > Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may > > contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to > > mention the market-building effects of a move like this. > > Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams. You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australia http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ "Do you know what [television news ownership] means to me? It gives me the political muscle I need." - Kerry Packer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Wacom Tablet
Kevin, I have a Wacom Intuos 12" x 12" that has rarely been used. Was going to become a graphics whiz but never got around to it. Happy to consider an offer. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote: You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry. The better news are that Enrtrepeneurs, and Linux Specialist/Professionals/Practioneers together will benefit in no uncertain terms doing what each do best with the former planning, directing, and controlling, and the latter getting on with the technicalities of the projects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
> > > > Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams. try building up an inhouse team of Linux/OSS people it's a dreadful job, I'm the "Linux" person in my company and we use Linux in a wide range of things, It took ages to get someone to take over some of what I do, and finding anymore good Linux developers is quite a pita.. it took them 4-5mths just to find me and that was by pure luck that I was on my way to Australia at the time when I heard about the job... Granted little of our work is open sourced, we give back what we have to and some more besides so maybe Linux people don't want to work unless they are giving everything back ... Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Further to Pia's announcement of the meeting about the NSW tender next week: The venue: ACS NSW offices Level 4, 122 Castlereagh Street Sydney NSW 2000 Ph. 02 9261 4411 Time: 14:00 - 15:30 Thursday 14th Oct 2004 -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Dave Airlie wrote: try building up an inhouse team of Linux/OSS people it's a dreadful job, I'm the "Linux" person in my company and we use Linux in a wide range of things, It took ages to get someone to take over some of what I do, and finding anymore good Linux developers is quite a pita.. it took them 4-5mths just to find me and that was by pure luck that I was on my way to Australia at the time when I heard about the job... True and who amongst the Linux Professionals want to face the Customer each day communicating the things that have done and the things that needs to be done; ensuring the Customer knows where the Project is exactly at and is comfortable with the progress of the jobs; who amongst the Linux Professionals take the responsibility to smooth out Customers concerns when they arise and who will Indemnify the Customer for any items in the contract that the supplier can not deliver, and so. This is the role for large entrepreneural organizations. The role for Linux Professionals is to get on with the job and get paid for the job thats been done. Granted little of our work is open sourced, we give back what we have to and some more besides so maybe Linux people don't want to work unless they are giving everything back ... Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
> > > contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
> > > mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
> >
> > Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams.
>
> You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry.
People are free to make their own assessment.
I'm making mine based on 20 years IT experience. I've probably seen
something similar about 5 times and each time it went now where for the
little guys. There is one very important word in the news articles that
is extremely important.
The companies that can easily meet the tender specs are;
IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
because these companies have already met these specs and have the
background with NSW government departments.
RedHat - maybe. It needs hardware creds. Does it have a major integrated
project with NSW Gov under its belt?
There was one major NSW based company that probably meets the specs, but
it cauterised it's *nix skills a couple of years ago. I don't know of
any others.
As I see it, your concern has to tick off very strongly on
hardware; desktop to mainframe,
operating system(s),
software development (major league)
networking (LAN to statewide)
documentation (real stuff)
project management (with proven managers of major projects)
Training (with certified trainers with the latest certification)
financial backing
comprehensive insurance,
etc.
My 2c is that if you are an individual, with good skills, your best bet
is to see who tenders, then hawk your resume around.
What isn't filled by major companies, will be filled by the major blood
suckers.
YMMV.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
> IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ??? Note that only one of these companies can provide everything listed in the tender. :-) - Jeff -- GNOME Boston Summit October 9-11, 2004 "When you're running, you want to run as far as you can, and you can't run further than Australia." - Jacek Koman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless Modem drivers
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 11:37 +1000, O Plameras wrote: > Mike MacCana wrote: > > >Aye, it is indeed. /dev/rfcomm0 is your serial port, your phone is your > >modem. > > > >And all for a mere $3.38 per MB. Thanks Optus! > It is provided as WAP service by telecom companies. Er, yes. Hence 'thanks Optus' above. > Bluetooth is tremendously cost-effective and flexible as a wirless > networking solution for Domestic or specialised networking setup > compare to wifi-NIC or the traditional hardwire. Bluetooth != GPRS (which is what I was talking about - using a phone as a *modem*, rather than something to send/receive pictures to/from). Bluetooth has a short range, as you mention, 100M at best, I know of no ISPs who use bluetooth to talk to your phone. If you meant GPRS, in Australia, it's not really that cost effective when compared to a wireless (802.11b, or 3G not using WAP/GPRS) ISP. Bluetooth in the successor to infrared. And that's all. Infrared that goes through walls. As you said, great for the home, but not for long range wide area wireless. GPRS would be lovely for wide area wireless, cause the coverage is brilliant. But not until the prices drop by an order of magnitude. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote:
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> > IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
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> Note that only one of these companies can provide everything listed in the
> tender. :-)
Really? Would you care to say which one you think can do it?
Hint, they are all *nix competent companies and they have all done major
tenders in the past. They Linux part is chicken shit.
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