Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop
Hi All, Thanks for the quick reply. Hornsby is a little far to drive, but considering the number of Linux computer repair shops around I will certainly keep Solutionsfirst in mind. I called XLS.com.au but they only have a Linux business consultant on hand. His fees start at $560. That's bit out of the question considering it's just an old Dell P2 I'm dealing with. I will be at the next SLUG meeting. I have recently moved down from Northern NSW. I used to go to the Brisbane Linux Users Group. Last of all, the problem I'm having is that the system boots up and loads everything OK (except one of the 2 NIC's). It is set to boot into GNOME, but can't. The screen just flashes grey, black, grey. The hard drive continues to click away. Occassionally I see localuser login: and by waiting patiently each time the screen comes up for a few seconds I can manage to login as localuser user. I can't get into the root directory. Once I saw an error message saying that there was a font missing. Seems to me like there is a problem with GNOME. I'm not sure where to start. So if anyone can still come up with a Linux repair shop somewhere close to Haberfield/Ashfield/Strathfield I'd be happy to hear about it. Thanks for your time. Cheers Kerry Whitfield - Original Message - From: Nathan Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: slug@slug.org.au; OrientBeach.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop - Original Message - From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone suggest somewhere I can take it for repairs. Preferably somewhere close or in the inner west of Sydney ( I live in Haberfield) You could bring it along to the SLUG meeting at the end of the month... :-) ... and discover exactly how many ways there are to skin a cat ;-) Give us a description of what is happening and we may be able to help you. You never learn faster than when you get to do it yourself. Cheers Nathan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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G'day... Last of all, the problem I'm having is that the system boots up and loads everything OK (except one of the 2 NIC's). It is set to boot into GNOME, but can't. The screen just flashes grey, black, grey. The hard drive continues to click away. Occassionally I see localuser login: and by waiting patiently each time the screen comes up for a few seconds I can manage to login as localuser user. I can't get into the root directory. Once I saw an error message saying that there was a font missing. My company is based in Waterloo and charges start at $99/hour. (I'm their Linux nut.) However, if it's just started happening out of the blue, then hardware failure may be the culprit. I'm another one that'd recommend looking into it yourself than paying a fee to someone else only for yourself to remain unenlightened. Fortune favours the brave. :) My suggestion: Switch to one of the text-based virtual consoles (ctrl-alt-F1 for example). Back-up your important data using tar (tar and gzip - can be done in one swoop - see the tar man pages and the many web pages on how to use tar). Copy them to another hard drive OR use something like the Mepis or Ubuntu live CD's to burn them to CD. Re-install. Whilst somewhat time consuming, the above method is a sure to work provided your hardware isn't faulty. Even though it can take some time to re-install you can do other things whilst you wait, and it may be quicker than trying to figure out what has gone wrong. (I'm quite sure there's a number on this list that may disagree with me. The point is that you recreate the machine the same as it was before it started playing up.) *However*, before you do all this you may wish to check dmesg and the various logs to see if the right hardware was detected in the first place. It's also quite possible (and quite likely) that there's been some mix up in your video card and/or monitor specifications of XFree86Config. Have you tried changing these or your screen resolution lately? (Or something like not having the right fonts as you've mentioned earlier. Have you made an changes this way lately?) Regards, Michael Kraus Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct Line 02 8306 0007 Wild Technology Pty Ltd , ABN 98 091 470 692 Sales - Ground Floor, 265/8 Lachlan Street, Waterloo NSW 2017 Admin - Level 4 Tiara, 306/9 Crystal Street, Waterloo NSW 2017 Telephone 1300-13-9453 | Facsimile 1300-88-9453 http://www.wildtechnology.net DISCLAIMER CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email message and any attachments may be confidential information and may also be the subject of client legal - legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. No part of them may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the copyright owner. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
quote who=Bill Bennett I've been given a copy of Lindows4.5 by someone who is (was) rather chary of it---the Lindows, not the version. Has anyone had any experience with Lindows that they'd care to communicate? Good/bad/indifferent will do. Lindows will run your user session as root by default. This is a hideously bad thing to do, because it makes your entire system as vulnerable to attack as Win9x or Windows 2k/NT/XP (when running as Administrator, which seems to be very common). I fear that Linspire will make Linux look terrible. Because of this, I have a hard time recommending it to anyone, regardless of any additional eyecandy or features they provide. It's just not cricket. - Jeff (who works on Ubuntu, which may reflect some element of bias) -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20thhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ Man, is there some worldwide consipiracy to supply me with doctored dictionaries or something? - Adrian van den Dries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
Check out the Mepis and Ubuntu live CDs. (Especially Ubuntu.) My Dad stayed over at my place last night, and without any instruction from myself happily found his way into card games and various applications on my PC. (I'm running Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog at home.) Ubuntu has a lovely interface configuration/design. I can't recommend it highly enough, and it has become the distribution I'd foremost recommend for client machines. My only concern would be that some functionality does require some user intervention and know-how. (There is an unofficial web-page that I find very helpful - may be off-putting to a novice though. Sorry I can't remember the address off the top of my head.) - Jeff (who works on Ubuntu, which may reflect some element of bias) Hey - Gotta love any organisation that'll give away a nice debian-based distro on CDs at their expense. Regards, Michael Kraus Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct Line 02 8306 0007 Wild Technology Pty Ltd , ABN 98 091 470 692 Sales - Ground Floor, 265/8 Lachlan Street, Waterloo NSW 2017 Admin - Level 4 Tiara, 306/9 Crystal Street, Waterloo NSW 2017 Telephone 1300-13-9453 | Facsimile 1300-88-9453 http://www.wildtechnology.net DISCLAIMER CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email message and any attachments may be confidential information and may also be the subject of client legal - legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. No part of them may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the copyright owner. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:13:55 +1000 Michael Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Ubuntu has a lovely interface configuration/design. I can't recommend it highly enough, and it has become the distribution I'd foremost recommend for client machines. My only concern would be that some functionality does require some user intervention and know-how. (There is an unofficial web-page that I find very helpful - may be off-putting to a novice though. Sorry I can't remember the address off the top of my head.) http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ Couldn't agree more about Ubuntu. I helped a friend of mine in Columbus Ohio switch from Windows to Ubuntu. He got it kick-started, we installed Skype and the rest was talk and some VNC work from me. Very neat. He is certainly no guru, but has taken to Ubuntu and now feels quite at home. Alan - Jeff (who works on Ubuntu, which may reflect some element of bias) Hey - Gotta love any organisation that'll give away a nice debian-based distro on CDs at their expense. Regards, Michael Kraus Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct Line 02 8306 0007 - --- Wild Technology Pty Ltd , ABN 98 091 470 692 Sales - Ground Floor, 265/8 Lachlan Street, Waterloo NSW 2017 Admin - Level 4 Tiara, 306/9 Crystal Street, Waterloo NSW 2017 Telephone 1300-13-9453 | Facsimile 1300-88-9453 http://www.wildtechnology.net DISCLAIMER CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email message and any attachments may be confidential information and may also be the subject of client legal - legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. No part of them may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the copyright owner. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 428 148 071 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Building nvidia kernel modules on a Debian x86_64 machine
Hi wondering if any one has done this, still struggle through how to build a amd64 kernel that is actually part of the i386 arch Got this worked out, tried the same trick with the nvidia modules and it bombs out saying something about 32 bit kernel space - usually I change the arch to amd64 and use the amd64_linux_gcc script that comes with kernel image source package, but when I do that i get lots of errors about some assembly language errors! any tips ? A signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Building nvidia kernel modules on a Debian x86_64 machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/08/2005 06:21:01 PM: Hi wondering if any one has done this, still struggle through how to build a amd64 kernel that is actually part of the i386 arch Got this worked out, tried the same trick with the nvidia modules and it bombs out saying something about 32 bit kernel space - usually I change the arch to amd64 and use the amd64_linux_gcc script that comes with kernel image source package, but when I do that i get lots of errors about some assembly language errors! any tips ? I'm not sure I follow you, but have you downloaded the Linux AMD64/EMT64T from http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and compiled them? Cheers, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/08/2005 04:42:11 PM: Hi All, Thanks for the quick reply. Hornsby is a little far to drive, but considering the number of Linux computer repair shops around I will certainly keep Solutionsfirst in mind. --snip-- Last of all, the problem I'm having is that the system boots up and loads everything OK (except one of the 2 NIC's). It is set to boot into GNOME, but can't. The screen just flashes grey, black, grey. The hard drive continues to click away. Occassionally I see localuser login: and by waiting patiently each time the screen comes up for a few seconds I can manage to login as localuser user. I can't get into the root directory. Once I saw an error message saying that there was a font missing. Seems to me like there is a problem with GNOME. I'm not sure where to start. So if anyone can still come up with a Linux repair shop somewhere close to Haberfield/Ashfield/Strathfield I'd be happy to hear about it. Hi Kerry, Usually the flashing is caused by swapping out the video card, monitor, keyboard or mouse, have you made any such change? There might be easier ways of doing this, but I have always done things the hard way. (I still use a terminal to navigate the filesystem!) In any event, check out: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html to get into single user mode (stop gnome from attempting to launch basically) To fix the X (GNOME) problem, try running Xconfigurator from the prompt and follow its instructions. For your NIC issues, are they both the same brand? if not, send the output of lspci (run as root). Cheers, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:04, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lindows will run your user session as root by default. This is a hideously
bad thing to do, because it makes your entire system as vulnerable to
attack as Win9x or Windows 2k/NT/XP (when running as Administrator, which
seems to be very common). I fear that Linspire will make Linux look
terrible.
I installed Hoary a little while ago, and I was surprised to find that:
1. the installer didn't ask me to define a root password
2. once installed, I discovered that the root password was the same as the
password of the user I had created in the installation
3. the user I had created in the installation was able to change system
settings that can normally only be changed as root
4. I could open a root terminal without typing a password
To fix the last two points I had to manually turn off Executing system
administration tasks in Users and Groups.
While I believe that Lindow^H^H^Hspire is a wart on the face of free software,
I was shocked to see Ubuntu seemingly taking the same path. Am I missing
something?
Disclaimer: I am an admin with the PCLinuxOS project, but I really like Ubuntu
as well.
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Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:04, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lindows will run your user session as root by default. This is a hideously bad thing to do, because it makes your entire system as vulnerable to attack as Win9x or Windows 2k/NT/XP (when running as Administrator, which seems to be very common). I fear that Linspire will make Linux look terrible. I installed Hoary a little while ago, and I was surprised to find that: 1. the installer didn't ask me to define a root password 2. once installed, I discovered that the root password was the same as the password of the user I had created in the installation 3. the user I had created in the installation was able to change system settings that can normally only be changed as root 4. I could open a root terminal without typing a password To fix the last two points I had to manually turn off Executing system administration tasks in Users and Groups. While I believe that Lindow^H^H^Hspire is a wart on the face of free software, I was shocked to see Ubuntu seemingly taking the same path. Am I missing something? My ubuntu (Hoary) has root disabled, all root access is via sudo, including root terminal. This would account for the same password as root password. Potentially after a fresh logon opening a root terminal would not need to ask password (???). But then I also upgraded from warty to hoary Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Clusters and parallel programming group
Title: Clusters and parallel programming group Suddenly I've had this urge to do some parallel programming using MPI on Linux (either using the MPICH or LAM implementations) 'for fun'. Problem is I don't have access to multiple systems to act as clusters or nor the money to buy some. I was wondering if there were any SLUG'ers here with the same interests or who may want to form a small informal 'for fun' interest group in Sydney. I have a P3 computer to spare so maybe some of you can volunteer a place or a few computers. I do not intend to run high performance applications or attempt to brute force cryptogrpahic algorithms. Just wanna get a few interested folks to code, learn and make parallel applications for our personal entertainment... I was thinking of something like a garage cluster group...nothing formalwe're not doing a PhD or anything... Cheers, Carlo This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.hi-speed.net.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
quote who=Sridhar Dhanapalan 1. the installer didn't ask me to define a root password Yep, the root account is disabled. 2. once installed, I discovered that the root password was the same as the password of the user I had created in the installation Nup, there is no root password - it's locked. You must've been using sudo. 3. the user I had created in the installation was able to change system settings that can normally only be changed as root Only when you authenticate again via sudo. 4. I could open a root terminal without typing a password The only time you can get to a root terminal without typing a password is when you boot in recovery mode - sulogin drops you directly to a root prompt (if an attacker has sufficient physical access to your system to reboot and select the recovery mode boot choice, then your system is owned already). To fix the last two points I had to manually turn off Executing system administration tasks in Users and Groups. That actually means you've disabled sudo access for your user, which you'll have to recover by booting in recovery mode. While I believe that Lindow^H^H^Hspire is a wart on the face of free software, I was shocked to see Ubuntu seemingly taking the same path. Am I missing something? Yep - the difference between running every process as root and secure access to administrative functionality via sudo. :-) - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20thhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ I guess there's part of me that's always resented it... to be an actor, you have to have someone else say yes to you. - Edward Norton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Clusters and parallel programming group
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:31:30PM +1000, Carlo Sogono wrote: Suddenly I've had this urge to do some parallel programming using MPI on Linux (either using the MPICH or LAM implementations) 'for fun'. Problem is I don't have access to multiple systems to act as clusters or nor the money to buy some. I was wondering if there were any SLUG'ers here with the same interests or who may want to form a small informal 'for fun' interest group in Sydney. I have a P3 computer to spare so maybe some of you can volunteer a place or a few computers. I do not intend to run high Here's a sick and perverse thought, if you're *really* not interested in high-performance, but just the whole clustering thing -- run a few UML instances and Beowulf between those. Performance will be significantly worse than running the same program in a single-machine mode, but it'll at least give you an opportunity to get a taste for the pain and suffering that is parallel programming. Be warned: some consider running a UML Beowulf to be a crime against nature. grin - Matt -- For once, Microsoft wasn't exaggerating when they named it the 'Jet Engine' -- your data's the seagull. -- Chris Adams signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
Well put Jeff, Sudo rocks, Ubuntu rocks! Root does exist, if you want the traditional method of using root, just activate root by doing sudo passwd root when you create a password then you can log in as root, if you then disable sudo, you are back to the traditional set up! I quite like the way Ubuntu has used sudo, but if you dont like it, it takes seconds to change! Gotta admit I am back using debian on my server, debian for a server anyday! Ubuntu for a desktop everyday! my 2c tuxta2 --- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Sridhar Dhanapalan 1. the installer didn't ask me to define a root password Yep, the root account is disabled. 2. once installed, I discovered that the root password was the same as the password of the user I had created in the installation Nup, there is no root password - it's locked. You must've been using sudo. 3. the user I had created in the installation was able to change system settings that can normally only be changed as root Only when you authenticate again via sudo. 4. I could open a root terminal without typing a password The only time you can get to a root terminal without typing a password is when you boot in recovery mode - sulogin drops you directly to a root prompt (if an attacker has sufficient physical access to your system to reboot and select the recovery mode boot choice, then your system is owned already). To fix the last two points I had to manually turn off Executing system administration tasks in Users and Groups. That actually means you've disabled sudo access for your user, which you'll have to recover by booting in recovery mode. While I believe that Lindow^H^H^Hspire is a wart on the face of free software, I was shocked to see Ubuntu seemingly taking the same path. Am I missing something? Yep - the difference between running every process as root and secure access to administrative functionality via sudo. :-) - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ I guess there's part of me that's always resented it... to be an actor, you have to have someone else say yes to you. - Edward Norton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Türkiye'nin en iyi bilgi yarışmala rı.
Title: Birmilyon.com Eğer bu mesajı düzgün göremiyor veya seçenekleri işaretliyemiyorsanız buraya tıklayın veya aşağıdaki adresi internet tarayıcınızın adres kısmına yazın. http://www.birmilyon.com/t.asp?guid=7A43A7EA-9599-49B2-91B5-8094F114AAAB Aşağıdaki soruları doğru cevaplayan herkes 10.000.000 BONUS kazanıyor. Kazanacağınız BONUS ile yarışmalarımıza katılabilirsiniz. Cevaplarınızı göndermek için sayfanın altındaki butona tıklayın! Soru 1 : Amerika Birleşik Devletleri'nın başkenti neresidir? a ) Washington b ) New York c ) Los Angeles d ) Miami Soru 2 : Kaşağı kimin eseridir? a ) Halide Edip Adıvar b ) Nurullah Ataç c ) Aziz Nesin d ) Ömer Seyfettin Soru 3 : Ayağına paslı çivi batan kişi hangi hastalığa yakalanabilir? a ) Dizanteri b ) Grip c ) Tetanos d ) ÇocuK felci Soru 4 : 'Fazla mal göz çıkarmaz' atasözünde kaç tane ünlü harf vardır? a ) 8 b ) 7 c ) 6 d ) 5 Soru 5 : Öğretmenler gününü hangi tarihte kutlarız? a ) 12 Haziran b ) 24 Kasım c ) 20 Aralık d ) 3 Şubat Soru 6 : Avrupa ambleminin üstünde kaç yıldız bulunmaktadır? a ) 12 b ) 22 c ) 13 d ) 20 Soru 7 : Hatır için ne yenir? a ) Çiğ tavuk b ) Karpuz c ) Ekmek d ) Bal Soru 8 : Dünya şaka günü hangisidir? a ) 1 Mayıs b ) 1 Haziran c ) 1 Şubat d ) 1 Nisan Soru 9 : Keçi yoluna ne denir? a ) İpek Yolu b ) Patika c ) Otoyol d ) Hiçbiri Soru 10 : Güneşe en uzak olan gezegen hangisidir? a ) Satürn b ) Neptün c ) Pluton d ) Uranüs Her türlü soru sorun ve önerileriniz için mesaj atabileceğiniz e-mail adresimiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] birmilyon.com eposta listesinden çıkmak için lütfen tıklayınız. Eğer bu mesajı düzgün göremiyorsanız lütfen aşağıdaki adresi internet tarayıcınızın adres kısmına yazın. http://www.birmilyon.com/t.asp?guid=7A43A7EA-9599-49B2-91B5-8094F114AAAB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dlink Adsl Modem (no longer) dropping Packets
Thanks for all the input, It would seem that D-Link don't have a good reputation. In the end I managed to update the firmware on the D-Link Adsl modem by downloading the latest Adsl+2 firmware from Dlink. Which turned out to be a windows.exe (Talk about frustrating, the Dlink is a linux device and I'm running Linux on the firewall and yet I still have to have a copy of winblows in order to upgrade my Linux appliance!) Anyway this appears to have fixed the problem. Modem has been up for about a week now with no packet loss. P. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:38:50 +1000 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Sridhar Dhanapalan 1. the installer didn't ask me to define a root password Yep, the root account is disabled. 2. once installed, I discovered that the root password was the same as the password of the user I had created in the installation Nup, there is no root password - it's locked. You must've been using sudo. 3. the user I had created in the installation was able to change system settings that can normally only be changed as root Only when you authenticate again via sudo. 4. I could open a root terminal without typing a password The only time you can get to a root terminal without typing a password is when you boot in recovery mode - sulogin drops you directly to a root prompt (if an attacker has sufficient physical access to your system to reboot and select the recovery mode boot choice, then your system is owned already). To fix the last two points I had to manually turn off Executing system administration tasks in Users and Groups. That actually means you've disabled sudo access for your user, which you'll have to recover by booting in recovery mode. While I believe that Lindow^H^H^Hspire is a wart on the face of free software, I was shocked to see Ubuntu seemingly taking the same path. Am I missing something? Yep - the difference between running every process as root and secure access to administrative functionality via sudo. :-) Also, is it not true that Ubuntu's action with regard super user rights only applies to the first user created during install. All subsequent users created do not display these sudo traits and behave as a normally restricted user on any other Linux (apart from Lindows). So, on install create a user called lord or such. Then when installed, create all the other standard users you require. In SuSE, for example, you type in 'sux' at command prompt, with root password, to become super user - Ubuntu uses the sudo method - it's just a different approach. My view is that Lindows, in its attempt to be so much like Windows to supposedly make it easier for 'crossover', has in fact become so much like it to include its security vulnerability. Why not stay with Windows? What I like about Ubuntu is that it cost me nothing, zip, zilch, not a dime; I can do everything I did under Windows (after a bit of re-education) and I can make it look real nice but nothing at all like Windows. Oh yeah, and Windows viruses and spyware and bugs bugs bugs are no longer an issue. Sorry to become advocate like - to answer the original thread question, Lindows is the one Linux I would never use! Paul. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dual authentification
A bit late into this thread but DaZZa wrote: I don't know of any system that'll allow exactly that - not *nix, WindoZe, Novell or anything else. OpenVms. I'm using at this very moment. P. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Building nvidia kernel modules on a Debian x86_64 machine
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 06:50:35PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/08/2005 06:21:01 PM: Hi wondering if any one has done this, still struggle through how to build a amd64 kernel that is actually part of the i386 arch Got this worked out, tried the same trick with the nvidia modules and it bombs out saying something about 32 bit kernel space - usually I change the arch to amd64 and use the amd64_linux_gcc script that comes with kernel image source package, but when I do that i get lots of errors about some assembly language errors! any tips ? I'm not sure I follow you, but have you downloaded the Linux AMD64/EMT64T from http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and compiled them? Sorry was in a bit of a hurry when I wrote it (as well as getting rather frustrated). What I have done is install debian (2.6.11 base kerneL) I then upgraded the kernel to 2.6.11-amd64-k8-smp which is a x86_64 arch kernel so it does both 32 and 64 bit stuff ( I believe). My problem is that when I download the nvidia-kernel-drivers package and try a make-kpkg module against it it barfs saying something about 32 kernel mode - when I say this previously I found I had to change the gcc swith -m to -m64 (for the kernel), but this just causes more problems for the nvidia stuff. I went to the extreme of just getting the file from the web site (nvidia) and ran the installer for 64 bit verions but again I ran into the same problem 8( so I am thinking to move back to the 32bit smp kernel and get the nvidia drivers working and then do some more investigating 8) I was hoping that somebody would have seen this problem before Cheers, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Building nvidia kernel modules on a Debian x86_64 machine
quote who=Alexander Samad What I have done is install debian (2.6.11 base kerneL) I then upgraded the kernel to 2.6.11-amd64-k8-smp which is a x86_64 arch kernel so it does both 32 and 64 bit stuff ( I believe). If you've installed the i386 version of Debian, then you're running entirely in 32 bit mode. The k8 kernel is just an optimised build for your processor, it doesn't do 64 bit. Your best bet is to install the amd64 version, and (at least in Debian, as it doesn't support bi- or multi-arch) run your 32 bit software in a chroot. - Jeff -- GNOME Summit: October 8th-10th http://live.gnome.org/Boston2005 A 'lame' server is a server that is SUPPOSED to be authoritative, but, when asked, says: 'Me? I know nothing, I'm from Madrid!' - Ralf Hildebrandt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] linux locks up cisco - but how/why?
I have a Cisco 800 router managed by powertel (don't ask!) which failed mysteriously recently, apparently caused by an Ubuntu box. When Ubuntu was disconnected, the cisco came back to life and worked normally. Has anyone run into this before: Cisco - switch - Ubuntu warty - several Macintosh - 3 x Debian Sarge - Windows XP (powertel guy's testing laptop) I could ping around my LAN, including Ubuntu, but the cisco was not responding from either the net, or my lan. I was getting a mixture of unreachable messages, with the occassional 3 second ping response (about one in twenty). The whole problem went away after unplugging/rebooting/reconnecting Ubuntu and hasn't recurred! The nice powertel man suggested a network card hardware problem in Ubuntu - but why would that lock up their cisco? thanks.. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop - problem solved
Hi All, Firstly, thanks to all for your help. I finally took Nathans advice and played around with the problem myself by typing error messages into Google. I finally got it to boot into the consul using the lowres option on the original install disks. After googling a few more error messages I finally commented out the following line in my /etc/X11/XF86config-4 file # FontPath unix/:7100 Bang! it worked. Now all I need to do is get that other network card working and them try to connect to my exetel wireless account. Thanks again and I'll catch up wioth you all at the next SLUG meeting.if not sooner. Cheers Kerry Whitfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nathan Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: slug@slug.org.au; OrientBeach.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop - Original Message - From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone suggest somewhere I can take it for repairs. Preferably somewhere close or in the inner west of Sydney ( I live in Haberfield) You could bring it along to the SLUG meeting at the end of the month... :-) ... and discover exactly how many ways there are to skin a cat ;-) Give us a description of what is happening and we may be able to help you. You never learn faster than when you get to do it yourself. Cheers Nathan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux locks up cisco - but how/why?
quote who=David Cisco - switch - Ubuntu warty - several Macintosh - 3 x Debian Sarge - Windows XP (powertel guy's testing laptop) I could ping around my LAN, including Ubuntu, but the cisco was not responding from either the net, or my lan. I was getting a mixture of unreachable messages, with the occassional 3 second ping response (about one in twenty). The whole problem went away after unplugging/rebooting/reconnecting Ubuntu and hasn't recurred! The nice powertel man suggested a network card hardware problem in Ubuntu - but why would that lock up their cisco? What's the NIC in the Ubuntu box? - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20thhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ I don't want the world, I just want your half. - They Might Be Giants, Ana Ng -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop - problem solved
I finally got it to boot into the consul using the lowres option on the original install disks. After googling a few more error messages I finally commented out the following line in my /etc/X11/XF86config-4 file # FontPath unix/:7100 Bang! it worked. Ah, I recognise this one. Your fontserver, which should be listening on port 7100, isn't running. Your next assignment, should you choose to accept it, is to fix that and get it running again. I don't know why a separate server process is needed for handling fonts; I just take it on faith that it's a good idea in context. Once you have it running, uncomment that line and restart X, then you'll have all your fonts available again. Cheers, James Now all I need to do is get that other network card working and them try to connect to my exetel wireless account. Thanks again and I'll catch up wioth you all at the next SLUG meeting.if not sooner. Cheers Kerry Whitfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nathan Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: slug@slug.org.au; OrientBeach.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Looking for a Linux repair shop - Original Message - From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone suggest somewhere I can take it for repairs. Preferably somewhere close or in the inner west of Sydney ( I live in Haberfield) You could bring it along to the SLUG meeting at the end of the month... :-) ... and discover exactly how many ways there are to skin a cat ;-) Give us a description of what is happening and we may be able to help you. You never learn faster than when you get to do it yourself. Cheers Nathan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Font Server [Was: Looking for a Linux repair shop]
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know why a separate server process is needed for handling fonts; I just take it on faith that it's a good idea in context. Font servers are irrelevant these days, as modern tookits use client side font selection and rendering (fontconfig and Xft). Once upon a time, it was handy to have a font server running on your network so all your X servers (hardware terminals) could have access to the same fonts. - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20thhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ From my observation, when it comes to porting Linux to a particular device, a point doesn't appear to be necessary. - mpt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux locks up cisco - but how/why?
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, David wrote: I have a Cisco 800 router managed by powertel (don't ask!) which failed mysteriously recently, apparently caused by an Ubuntu box. When Ubuntu was disconnected, the cisco came back to life and worked normally. Has anyone run into this before: Cisco - switch - Ubuntu warty - several Macintosh - 3 x Debian Sarge - Windows XP (powertel guy's testing laptop) I could ping around my LAN, including Ubuntu, but the cisco was not responding from either the net, or my lan. I was getting a mixture of unreachable messages, with the occassional 3 second ping response (about one in twenty). The whole problem went away after unplugging/rebooting/reconnecting Ubuntu and hasn't recurred! The nice powertel man suggested a network card hardware problem in Ubuntu - but why would that lock up their cisco? The Cisco device would block the bad port if it detects a problem. You could have had some kind of layer 2 conflict or problem with the NIC in the Ubuntu box which caused the Cisco box to go Woah, there's a problem here, I am NOT going to pass traffic from this port/MAC address. It could also be a duplex/speed mismatch, especially if there are auto-negotiating devices from different vendors present in the mix. If the problem is not duplicable, it's really difficult to diagnose properly. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Lindows experience.
I am a lindows - now linspire - user at home for the family (they also use a Mac Mini with OSX) and gentoo at work and have used Mandrake historically. I have installed and used ubuntu for only a short time on an x86 and a little longer on a PowerBook. Linspire is by far the most user friendly Linux system and this is assisted by its simple install, user interface and the CNR installation software. I would highly recommend it for cross over users from Windows or MAC and non technical users. Also the default is to have a single user as root but this however can be simply altered by creating a non root user and you get back all the bennefits of linux security etc. My home system just auto logs in and the family have no idea that they are not root. Applications installed by CNR are installed to a share directory for all to use but user data is stored in an appropriate home directory. Al Steel. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] (no subject)
HI all, Our Music dept is wanting to create a track by track database of all their CD's. We are looking for a program that can read the data directly from the CD and add the data to a searchable database that is acccessible to network users. Any ideas? OLMC Simon Bryan IT Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] LMB 14 North Parramatta Direct Number:88381200 SwitchBoard: 96833300 fax: 98901466 mobile: 0414238002 _ ella for Spam Control has removed 145 Spam messages and set aside 201 Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (no subject)
Are you looking to create a database of commercial CDs the music dept has bought? If so, http://www.freedb.org/ might be a good place to start looking; they have a huge database of such information, and provide guides to how to access this information across the net and use it in your application. http://www.gracenote.com/ have (presumably) an even larger database, but theirs is commercial and you may have to pay to access it - see http://www.gracenote.com/developer/ for information. On 8/16/05, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI all, Our Music dept is wanting to create a track by track database of all their CD's. We are looking for a program that can read the data directly from the CD and add the data to a searchable database that is acccessible to network users. Any ideas? OLMC Simon Bryan IT Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] LMB 14 North Parramatta Direct Number:88381200 SwitchBoard: 96833300 fax: 98901466 mobile: 0414238002 _ ella for Spam Control has removed 145 Spam messages and set aside 201 Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2005 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux locks up cisco - but how/why?
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:20:35AM +1000, David wrote: I have a Cisco 800 router managed by powertel (don't ask!) which failed mysteriously recently, apparently caused by an Ubuntu box. When I've heard of cheapo broadband switch/routers getting confused by ipv6. I wouldn't have thought cisco would be fazed though. Might depend on the IOS version. Does your Ubuntu box do ipv6? Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (no subject)
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 11:21 +1000, Simon wrote: Our Music dept is wanting to create a track by track database of all their CD's. We are looking for a program that can read the data directly from the CD and add the data to a searchable database that is acccessible to network users. Any ideas? Grip allows for the data to be imported directly into a Mysql database. Might be a good place to start: apt-get install grip -- Cheers, Craige. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
