[SLUG] Keyboard nav in Evolution (or GTK?)

[Simon Wong]

The 2.8.1 version of Evolution in Ubuntu Edgy (or maybe it's whatever
GTK version is in Gnome 2.16) seems to have broken/changed some of the
old keyboard navigation.

In the 2.6.x version in Dapper, I could use shift-leftarrow to collapse
threads and shift-rightarrow to expand threads when viewing them in
Evolution.  That no longer works in the email list and is a PITA.

Incidentally it works when selecting folders when moving an email?!

Can anyone suggest how I can fix it or if there's a different key combo
(I've tried ctrl, alt) that does this?

Thanks.

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Re: [SLUG] comsec

[Christopher Vance]

On 1/29/07, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DATA: malformed address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n may not follow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: failing address in "To:" header is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m.au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Does every line sent by your exim finish with CR and NL?  The error
above could be taken to imply that your CRs are missing.

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[SLUG] comsec

[Alex Samad]

Hi

I am having some trouble with comsec and their automated trade service, I keep
getting bounces of their mail 

DATA: malformed address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n may not follow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: failing address in "To:" header is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m.au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am using exim.  I have tried to tell them they have a problem, but I also
send it to my work email address and it works quite happily.

I have tracked it down to my data ACL, but now I am reaching my limit of smtp.

Any one else having these problems, any suggestions on how to solve them, or
where I can point to some specifications to waive at the face (and probably be
ignored!)

Alex Samad



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[SLUG] Re: Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[bill]

Just got home and found a Meyer catalogue in the mailbox - frontpage  is 
Windows Vista Launching 30 Jan.


"The 'WOW' Starts Now" - more likely that "the 'WOW" " stands for "WOn't 
Work" from what Ive been reading online lately.


This, together with the Hardly Normal TV adverts re "Midnight" opening 
for Vista purchases, meansn  that we'll be inundated with more B'S ad's 
that don't mention unsupported hardware and DRM.


Same goes for the next couple of months issues of PC mags. Thankfully 
there's still Linux Format, Linux Mag. Linux Gazette etc.


Besides, why would you want Vista, better to spend the money on a Wii or 
even an XBox 360.


I haven't used Windows (XP Pro) since last April and haven't missed it ( 
well, except for the Trojans, Virii etc.).


Bill




I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and 
all I can say is: Wow!!


I get a new looking desktop with pretty, scrolling preview panes of 
the processes that are running.


I can organise my photos - wasn't I able to do that before?

I can organise my music and I can download the CD covers so that it 
all looks like a record store.  Didn't anyone think to ask about DRM?


...and it's all available at Hardly Normal's at midnight.

One question was whether it's reliable - well it has been out there 
with 5M users in test - I'm one who downloaded a pre-RC1 and found 
that it wouldn't load in VMware.


So, get to Hardly Normal at midnight and shell out your $199 for the 
upgrade - what version upgrade is that?  ...and keep a spare grand or 
so handy when you find it won't run on your current hardware.


OK, Seven Sunrise is light on anyway, but this is ridiculous...



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[SLUG] impromptu DebSIG meeting?

[Paul Wise]

Hi all,

I'm a new DD and I'm in Sydney for a few weeks (till feb 17th), was
hoping DebSIG would have an event during that time, but nothing is
posted on the SLUG website. Any Debian/SLUG folk up for a beer in a pub
somewhere? I'm in Rozelle for now, so somewhere in the city would be
good (Criterion maybe), or there is a pub down the end of the street
(Wellington St in Rozelle).

PS: I'm not subscribed, so please CC me on any replies.

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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Voytek Eymont]

On Mon, January 29, 2007 7:53 am, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and
> all I can say is: Wow!!

I saw the 'preview' on Nine(MSN) this morning

what the reviewer pushed was 'parental controls' and no need for third
party add on security;



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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Hal Ashburner]

Q: I want to chat about non-technical stuff, where should I post this
kind of message?
A: slug-chat.
 
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Re: [SLUG] Fedora access and securtiy

[jam]

On Monday 29 January 2007 06:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > This *is* the simple method. Once you've installed shorewall, you'll
> > > only have to edit a few files in /etc/shorewall - probably these:
> >
> > I dont doubt that shorewall is a good product for this.
>
> You're right, it's overkill.  
> Just use system-config-securitylevel-tui; it has an option
> to customize.  Just allow incoming ssh.
>
> > But I would prefer to simply edit the native files.
> > Is this possible?

The nature of your question and the magnitude of the changes you want suggest 
that no it is not possible. (of course it is! but this is a complicated area, 
don't underestimate the problems AND the whole task is an ART not a SCIENCE, 
your call ...)
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Re: [SLUG] Installing Nvidia card

[jam]

On Monday 29 January 2007 06:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Well, it looks like I may be able to get myself a
> new video card for my desktop. I'm going to get an
> Nvidia card.
>
> I have on-board video and haven't previously
> installed a vid card into a machine that already
> had an on-board vid card so am seeking some advice.
>
> Do I have to disable the on-board card in the BIOS
> or will this occur automatically?
>
> The motherboard is a GA-81865GVMK-775.
>
> I've installed sound cards etc before, but not a
> vid card and so naturally am seeking advice
> *before* I do anything.
>
> Any assistance, referrals or advice will be most
> appreciated.

1) PLUG OUT your machine, or wall-plug off. Power Switch does NOT off the PCI 
bus
2) Plug in your new card
3) Plug in the monitor and switch on

Its possible to make the primary-card the on-board card, but not normal,
so no other action required
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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Andrew Swinn]

On Monday 29 January 2007 08:00, Michael Fox wrote:
> I just saw that too, take anything that fool says with a grain of salt ;)
>
> Just look what the say guy said about the Parallels on OSX sometime
> ago, absolutely an idiot.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaCvfNbKJo
>

Hadn't seen it before, but now I feel dumber for having watched it.

Regards,

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Alan L Tyree]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:58:56 +1100
Peter Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alan L Tyree wrote:
> > It fails with all programs.
> > 
> > The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After
> > logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name
> > 
> > -
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
> > localhost:10.0  ** Ubuntu machine where everything
> > works -
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
> > ** Xubuntu machine where nothing works
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> > --
> > 
> > The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines.
> > 
> > I don't know how DISPLAY gets set
> 
> If you add -vv to your ssh flags, you'll see something like:
> 
> debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f 
> /tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile generate 127.0.0.1:0.0
> MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1200 2>/dev/null
> debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f 
> /tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile list 127.0.0.1:0.0 2>/dev/null
> debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
> debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0
> 
> after the connection is authenticated.
> 
> Every time I've had a problem like this, it was because xauth wasn't 
> installed on the server.
> 

debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/bin/X11/xauth  list :0.0 2>/dev/null
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0
debug2: client_session2_setup: id 0
debug2: channel 0: request pty-req confirm 0
debug1: Sending environment.
debug1: Sending env LANG = en_AU.UTF-8
debug2: channel 0: request env confirm 0
debug2: channel 0: request shell confirm 0
debug2: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug2: callback done
debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072
Linux misty 2.6.17-10-powerpc #2 Tue Dec 5 22:00:09 UTC 2006 ppc

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ type xauth
xauth is /usr/bin/xauth


Sigh! I don't **need** to ssh -X into this machine, so maybe I'll stop
wasting time on it. Very frustrating.

Alan

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Peter Hardy]

Alan L Tyree wrote:

It fails with all programs.

The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After
logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name

-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
localhost:10.0  ** Ubuntu machine where everything works
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
** Xubuntu machine where nothing works
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
--

The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines.

I don't know how DISPLAY gets set


If you add -vv to your ssh flags, you'll see something like:

debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f 
/tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile generate 127.0.0.1:0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 
untrusted timeout 1200 2>/dev/null
debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f 
/tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile list 127.0.0.1:0.0 2>/dev/null

debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0

after the connection is authenticated.

Every time I've had a problem like this, it was because xauth wasn't 
installed on the server.


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[SLUG] Re: Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Richard Ibbotson]

Hmmm

http://nylug.org/pipermail/nylug-talk/2007-January/032461.html

I'm going to a NYLUG meeting later this year.  Should be 
interesting :)


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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Peter Hardy]

Howard Lowndes wrote:
I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and 

  ^   ^

Your reasoning has a fatal flaw.

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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Amos Shapira]

On 29/01/07, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I just saw that too, take anything that fool says with a grain of salt ;)

Just look what the say guy said about the Parallels on OSX sometime
ago, absolutely an idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaCvfNbKJo



Whenever I see this couple I can't stop thinking about Comedy Inc., things
like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m83xaglArYI

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Alan L Tyree]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:04:38 +1100
Ken Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> here is help I recieved with this
> Ken
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I think that I have found the problem with your display. When you
> logged in as root you lost the authorization for the display. The
> long version can be found on this page...

But I haven't logged in as root. I just ssh -X in as myself. On one
machine the display gets reset properly (presumably by ssh?) but on the
other it doesn't. And I can't seem to find any real difference between
the two.

I also do X forwarding by ssh-ing into a Sun box. This also works
without problems. The Sun DISPLAY variable gets properly reset.

It is only my Xubuntu iBook that is being recalcitrant.

Thanks for the reference. Interesting stuff.
Alan

> 
> https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/l-lpic1110/section4.html
> 
> You need to log in though. So here is an excerpt from that page.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Exporting a display
> 
> An X display is known by a name of the form
> hostname:displaynumber.screennumber. For Linux running on a
> workstation such as a PC, there is typically only one display with a
> single screen. In this case, the displayname may be, and usually is,
> omitted so the display is known as :0.0. The DISPLAY environment
> variable is usually set to the display name., so you can display it
> using the command echo $DISPLAY. Depending on your system, this
> variable may or may not be set if you use su - to switch to another
> user. In such a case, you may need to set and export the DISPLAY as
> shown in Listing 25. In this listing you see an attempt to start the
> xclock application after switching to root, but the attempt fails
> because the DISPLAY environment variable is not set. Even if the
> DISPLAY variable is set, you still may not be able to use the
> display, as you will also need authorization to do so.
> 
> 
> Listing 25. Attempting to start xclock
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> whoami
> ian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> echo $DISPLAY
> :0.0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su -
> Password:
> lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY
> 
> lyrebird:~ # xclock
> Error: Can't open display:
> lyrebird:~ # export DISPLAY=:0.0
> lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY
> :0.0
> lyrebird:~ # xclock
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> Error: Can't open display: :0.0
> lyrebird:~ # export XAUTHORITY=~ian/.Xauthority
> lyrebird:~ # xclock
> lyrebird:~ # ls -l ~ian/.Xauthority
> -rw---  1 ian users 206 Feb 18 16:20 /home/ian/.Xauthority
> 
> 
> 
> Let's take a look at what is going on here. In this case, the user ian
> logged in to the system and his DISPLAY environment was set to :0.0
> as we expect. When user ian switched to user root, the DISPLAY
> environment variable was not set, and an attempt to start xclock
> failed because the application did not know what display to use.
> 
> So the substituted user, root, set the DISPLAY environment variable,
> and exported it so that it would be available to other shells that
> might be started from this terminal window. Note that setting and
> exporting an environment variable does not use the leading $ sign,
> while displaying or otherwise using the value does. Note too, that if
> the su command had omitted the - (minus) sign, the DISPLAY
> environment variable would have been set as it had been for user ian.
> Nevertheless, even with the environment variable set, xclock still
> failed.
> 
> The reason for the second failure lies in the client/server nature of
> X. Although root is running in a window on the one and only display
> on this system, the display is actually owned by the user who logged
> in originally, ian in this case. Let's take a look at X authorization.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alan L Tyree wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100
> > Sam Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100
> >>> Sam Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>  On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> 
> > I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to
> > connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to
> > connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running
> > Xubuntu.
> >
> > 1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh
> >
> > 2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc
> > -localhost -display :0'
> >
> > Works great with the Ubuntu machine
> >
> > Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer
> > localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display)
> >
> > I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any
> > difference.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
>  Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the
>  two machines.
> >>> Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine.
> >>>
> >>>

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Ken Wilson]

here is help I recieved with this
Ken

Ken,

I think that I have found the problem with your display. When you logged in
as root you lost the authorization for the display. The long version can be
found on this page...

https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/l-lpic1110/section4.html

You need to log in though. So here is an excerpt from that page.

Good luck

cheers



Exporting a display

An X display is known by a name of the form
hostname:displaynumber.screennumber. For Linux running on a workstation such
as a PC, there is typically only one display with a single screen. In this
case, the displayname may be, and usually is, omitted so the display is
known as :0.0. The DISPLAY environment variable is usually set to the
display name., so you can display it using the command echo $DISPLAY.
Depending on your system, this variable may or may not be set if you use
su - to switch to another user. In such a case, you may need to set and
export the DISPLAY as shown in Listing 25. In this listing you see an
attempt to start the xclock application after switching to root, but the
attempt fails because the DISPLAY environment variable is not set. Even if
the DISPLAY variable is set, you still may not be able to use the display,
as you will also need authorization to do so.


Listing 25. Attempting to start xclock

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> whoami
ian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> echo $DISPLAY
:0.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su -
Password:
lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY

lyrebird:~ # xclock
Error: Can't open display:
lyrebird:~ # export DISPLAY=:0.0
lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY
:0.0
lyrebird:~ # xclock
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Error: Can't open display: :0.0
lyrebird:~ # export XAUTHORITY=~ian/.Xauthority
lyrebird:~ # xclock
lyrebird:~ # ls -l ~ian/.Xauthority
-rw---  1 ian users 206 Feb 18 16:20 /home/ian/.Xauthority



Let's take a look at what is going on here. In this case, the user ian
logged in to the system and his DISPLAY environment was set to :0.0 as we
expect. When user ian switched to user root, the DISPLAY environment
variable was not set, and an attempt to start xclock failed because the
application did not know what display to use.

So the substituted user, root, set the DISPLAY environment variable, and
exported it so that it would be available to other shells that might be
started from this terminal window. Note that setting and exporting an
environment variable does not use the leading $ sign, while displaying or
otherwise using the value does. Note too, that if the su command had omitted
the - (minus) sign, the DISPLAY environment variable would have been set as
it had been for user ian. Nevertheless, even with the environment variable
set, xclock still failed.

The reason for the second failure lies in the client/server nature of X.
Although root is running in a window on the one and only display on this
system, the display is actually owned by the user who logged in originally,
ian in this case. Let's take a look at X authorization.








Alan L Tyree wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100
Sam Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:


On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100
Sam Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:


I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to
connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to
connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running Xubuntu.

1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh

2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc
-localhost -display :0'

Works great with the Ubuntu machine

Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer
localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display)

I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any
difference.

Can anyone help?

Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the
two machines.

Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X misty emacs

...

emacs: standard input is not a tty
I think the original problem lies elsewhere - that's an expected  
error, see the SSH manpage regarding tty / pty allocation and the -t  
option.


It fails with all programs.

The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After
logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name

-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
localhost:10.0  ** Ubuntu machine where everything works
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
** Xubuntu machine where nothing works
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
--

The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines.

I don't know how DISPLAY gets set



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Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Alan L Tyree]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100
Sam Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100
> > Sam Lawrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to
> >>> connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to
> >>> connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running Xubuntu.
> >>>
> >>> 1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh
> >>>
> >>> 2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc
> >>> -localhost -display :0'
> >>>
> >>>   Works great with the Ubuntu machine
> >>>
> >>>   Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer
> >>> localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display)
> >>>
> >>> I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any
> >>> difference.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone help?
> >>
> >> Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the
> >> two machines.
> >
> > Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X misty emacs
> ...
> > emacs: standard input is not a tty
> 
> I think the original problem lies elsewhere - that's an expected  
> error, see the SSH manpage regarding tty / pty allocation and the -t  
> option.

It fails with all programs.

The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After
logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name

-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
localhost:10.0  ** Ubuntu machine where everything works
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
** Xubuntu machine where nothing works
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
--

The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines.

I don't know how DISPLAY gets set
> 


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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Gottfried Szing]

hi

> So, get to Hardly Normal at midnight and shell out your $199 for the
> upgrade - what version upgrade is that?  ...and keep a spare grand or so
> handy when you find it won't run on your current hardware.


what version? thats easy :)

http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html

cu
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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Michael Fox]

On 1/29/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/915.gif



Haha.

Oddly enough my mac just works ;)
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Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise

[Michael Fox]

I just saw that too, take anything that fool says with a grain of salt ;)

Just look what the say guy said about the Parallels on OSX sometime
ago, absolutely an idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaCvfNbKJo

On 1/29/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and
all I can say is: Wow!!

I get a new looking desktop with pretty, scrolling preview panes of the
processes that are running.

I can organise my photos - wasn't I able to do that before?

I can organise my music and I can download the CD covers so that it all
looks like a record store.  Didn't anyone think to ask about DRM?

...and it's all available at Hardly Normal's at midnight.

One question was whether it's reliable - well it has been out there with
5M users in test - I'm one who downloaded a pre-RC1 and found that it
wouldn't load in VMware.

So, get to Hardly Normal at midnight and shell out your $199 for the
upgrade - what version upgrade is that?  ...and keep a spare grand or so
handy when you find it won't run on your current hardware.

OK, Seven Sunrise is light on anyway, but this is ridiculous...

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Amos Shapira]

On 28/01/07, Alan L Tyree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine.



See sshd_config(5) about X11Forwarding. At least on Debian it says the
following:

X11Forwarding
 Specifies whether X11 forwarding is permitted.  The argument must be "yes"
or "no".  The default is "no".

i.e. you have to add "X11Forwarding yes" to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart
sshd in order to make the ssh daemon accept the X11 forwarding request from
the ssh client.

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

[Ben Donohue]

Hi Alan,
does this help...

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-sslvnc.html?ca=dgr-lnxw02SSLVNC

Ben

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