Re: [SLUG] Lucent winmodem question

[Jobst Schmalenbach]

Would you be better of to scan ebay for an old EXTERNAL modem, plug that into 
the RS232 port of you computer and run 64Bit debian?

jobst



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> system and running the one I have?
>  Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] Xorg Configurators

[David P]

I've personally never had a problem with SaX2 (X config tool in yast2)
and it's dual-head/Xinerama options, though it doesn't have a
web-based interface. I'd think success with multi-head on any distro
depends a lot on the graphics card (my geforce 6200 with proprietary
nvidia drivers works great). I'm sure that the graphical X config
tools in fedora and such would work great as well.

David


On 12/19/07, Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In spite of being a staunch fan of configuring X with vi, i am looking
> for a graphical configuration tool for Xorg. Especially one with good
> multi-head support. So i am wondering if anyone has any thoughts.
>
> Generally i am a debian man, but am willing to go with suse, fedora etc.
> Not sure if yast2 has web based config, i know it has ncurses and x11.
> But im not sure how good its multi-head configuration goes.
>
> Web based would even be nice.
>
> Even perl modules to simplify making my own interface would be helpfull.
>
> Nvidia-xconfig is may also make my life easier and i am aware of it.
>
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[SLUG] Lucent winmodem question

[Heracles]

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am I better off installing the 32bit Debian on my daughter's AMD X2
system and running the one I have?
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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Ian Wienand]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 02:51:34PM +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
> Here's one in lex; ripped off from the flex info page.
> I'd be interested in its performance compared to straight C.
> No doubt worse, just curious how much worse.

Similar to the Python version

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ /usr/bin/time ./count < ./randomcommas 
# of commas = 1287100
2.57user 0.02system 0:02.60elapsed 99%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+138minor)pagefaults 0swaps

I'm not even going to guess at what that version is actually doing!  A
quick look says this one is CPU bound, compared to Python which is
memory bound.

Lex
% Cycles lost due to GR/load dependency stalls (lower is better): 0.31

Python
% Cycles lost due to GR/load dependency stalls (lower is better): 46.25

The Python spends a lot of time sitting around waiting for data to
come from the cache/memory (load dependency stalls).  The Lex version
doesn't so the extra time can be attributed to CPU work.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Matthew Hannigan]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 02:50:55PM +1100, Ian Wienand wrote:
> [ C version ]

Here's one in lex; ripped off from the flex info page.
I'd be interested in its performance compared to straight C.
No doubt worse, just curious how much worse.


$ cat count.l

cat count.l
int num_commas = 0;

%%
, ++num_commas;
.|\n   {}

%%
main()
{
yylex();
printf( "# of commas = %d\n",
num_commas );
return 0;
}

$ lex -t count.l > count.c
$ cc count.c -lfl -o count
$ echo dsfsdf | ./count
# of commas = 4





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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Ian Wienand]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:34:02AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
> >No sir! But shell usually wins.
> 
> On my 1 GHz / 1 GB powerbook, the python one-liner
> I just submitted runs 5 x faster than the original.

I think C usually wins, the version below is 25 times faster than the
python version (from disk cache).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -lh /tmp/randomcommas 
-rw-r--r-- 1 ianw ianw 65M 2007-12-19 14:30 /tmp/randomcommas

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/bin/time ./comma < /tmp/randomcommas
commas: 1287100
0.07user 0.04system 0:00.11elapsed 99%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+126minor)pagefaults 0swaps

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/bin/time python -Sc "import sys; print 
sum(l.count(',') for l in sys.stdin)" < /tmp/randomcommas 
1287100
2.68user 0.13system 0:02.84elapsed 99%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+8659minor)pagefaults 0swaps

I'd guess the Python version is spending that time doing some extra
copying because it causes a lot of page faults is really cache
unfriendly.

Python
Instructions retired per L1 data cache access: 11.03
Instructions retired per L2 data cache access: 24.16

C
Instructions retired per L1 data cache access: 6.01
Instructions retired per L2 data cache access: 366.92

-i

#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

#define CHUNK 16384 

char buf[CHUNK];

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
unsigned long count = 0;
ssize_t len;
int fd = 0;

if (argc != 1)
fd = open(argv[1], O_RDONLY);
if (fd == -1) {
printf("blah: %s\n", strerror(errno));
exit(-1);
}

while ( (len = read(fd, buf, CHUNK)) != 0 )
{
int i;
for (i=0; i < len; i++)
if (buf[i] == ',') count++;
}

printf("commas: %lu\n", count);
return 0;
}
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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Matthew Hannigan]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:34:02AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
> Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
>>> Does it have to be in shell? :-)
>>
>> No sir! But shell usually wins.
>
> On my 1 GHz / 1 GB powerbook, the python one-liner
> I just submitted runs 5 x faster than the original.
>
> But what does 'shell' really mean? python,perl, etc.
> are external to the shell as surely as sed,tr,wc.

Here's a pure shell version (without the overrated
quality of being correct).  It works by using comma
as a field separator then counting the number of
fields.  Main problem: trailing fields non-empty lines still count, but empty 
lines don't!


IFS=,
while read
do
set -- $REPLY
n=$(($n+$#))
done
echo $n




$ echo ,,, | ./count.sh 
3
$ echo ,,, | ./count.sh 
7
$ echo 'cow,dog,fish,' | ./count.sh 
3

so far so good but:

$ echo 'cow,dog,fish' | ./count.sh 
3
$ echo 'cow 
dog 
fish' | ./count.sh 
3

Poo!

Could almost certainly be fixed with one or more of
test -n, shift and expr but that's enough for me.





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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Norman Gaywood wrote:


There is also the slightly shorter, tending to perl ugly instead of
perl neat:

perl -0777 -pe '$_=tr/,//' input.txt


Let's get rid of one character:

perl -0777 -pe '$_=y/,//' input.txt


cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Norman Gaywood]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:46:51PM +1100, Scott Ragen wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/12/2007 11:34:30 AM:
> > Norman Gaywood wrote:
> > > perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt
> > 
> > I nominate the perl soln as the winner so far: runs like
> > a bat of out hell and is the most easy to understand.
> > And the shortest in source code size.
> 
> I have to disagree. Whilst it may be fast, its not 100% correct.
> Most of the time it would probably work, but if there are any blank lines, 
> it outputs the current count, and starts again.
> 
> Consider the following file contents:
> --file contents--
> this,is,the,first,line
> this,is,the,second
> 
> the,above,was,a,blank,line
> 
> and,another,blank,line
> --end file contents--
> 
> On Jeff's original command:
> sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
> 15
> 
> The perl command:
> perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt
> 753

You are correct. I misread the perlrun man page. -00 means paragraph
mode. I wanted slurp mode, which is the slightly uglier -0777. So the perl
solution should be:

perl -0777 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt

There is also the slightly shorter, tending to perl ugly instead of
perl neat:

perl -0777 -pe '$_=tr/,//' input.txt

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Scott Ragen wrote:


I have to disagree. Whilst it may be fast, its not 100% correct.
Most of the time it would probably work, but if there are any blank lines, 
it outputs the current count, and starts again.


Consider the following file contents:
--file contents--
this,is,the,first,line
this,is,the,second

the,above,was,a,blank,line

and,another,blank,line
--end file contents--

On Jeff's original command:
sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
15

The perl command:
perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt
753


Change the input line separator to octal 0777:

perl -0777 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt
15


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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Scott Ragen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/12/2007 11:34:30 AM:

> Norman Gaywood wrote:
> 
> >> Oddly, perl very rarely wins these. ;-)
> > This must come close:
> > 
> > perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt
> 
> Timing test: say the above takes time 1.0
> then the following takes time 0.46 ...
> 
> >> python -Sc "import sys; print sys.stdin.read().count(',')"
> 
> both are much much faster than a sequence of pipes and
> low-level shell utils. And easier to comprehend.
> 
> IMHO, the most important part of optimisation these days
> is comprehensibility: people power costs a lot more than
> CPU and disks power.
> 
> I nominate the perl soln as the winner so far: runs like
> a bat of out hell and is the most easy to understand.
> And the shortest in source code size.

I have to disagree. Whilst it may be fast, its not 100% correct.
Most of the time it would probably work, but if there are any blank lines, 
it outputs the current count, and starts again.

Consider the following file contents:
--file contents--
this,is,the,first,line
this,is,the,second

the,above,was,a,blank,line

and,another,blank,line
--end file contents--

On Jeff's original command:
sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
15

The perl command:
perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt
753

I'm not skilled enough with perl to correct this, but
If the numbers could easily be added together it would work...

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Norman Gaywood wrote:


Oddly, perl very rarely wins these. ;-)

This must come close:

perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt


Timing test: say the above takes time 1.0
then the following takes time 0.46 ...


python -Sc "import sys; print sys.stdin.read().count(',')"


both are much much faster than a sequence of pipes and
low-level shell utils. And easier to comprehend.

IMHO, the most important part of optimisation these days
is comprehensibility: people power costs a lot more than
CPU and disks power.

I nominate the perl soln as the winner so far: runs like
a bat of out hell and is the most easy to understand.
And the shortest in source code size.

cheers
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[SLUG] Xorg Configurators

[Dean Hamstead]

Hi All,

In spite of being a staunch fan of configuring X with vi, i am looking 
for a graphical configuration tool for Xorg. Especially one with good

multi-head support. So i am wondering if anyone has any thoughts.

Generally i am a debian man, but am willing to go with suse, fedora etc.
Not sure if yast2 has web based config, i know it has ncurses and x11.
But im not sure how good its multi-head configuration goes.

Web based would even be nice.

Even perl modules to simplify making my own interface would be helpfull.

Nvidia-xconfig is may also make my life easier and i am aware of it.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Norman Gaywood]

On Dec 18, 2007 4:47 PM, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
> >  perl -e 'while(<>){$a+=s/[,]//g};print "$a\n"'  >
> > Do I win??
>
> Oddly, perl very rarely wins these. ;-)

This must come close:

perl -00 -ne 'print tr/,//' input.txt

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 11:57:39PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
> >> 
> >> Something like the following might be close:
> >> 
> >> awk 'BEGIN{FS=","}{$0~",$":i=i+NF?i=i+NF-1}END{print(i)}' input.txt
> >
> >Close in what sense, the syntax error, the length, or the output? ;-)
> 
> Why *are* you using the g option to sed's search and replace?
g - global (?) means to do it more than one time on the line
> 
> Oh I see, I misread your caret.  Nevermind.
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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Andrew Bennetts wrote:


If you want to avoid reading the whole file into memory:

python -Sc "import sys; print sum(l.count(',') for l in sys.stdin)" < input.txt


Yes. That's much better. Slurping the input into memory doesn't
scale well.

And they said TIMTOWTDI applied only to perl.

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] USB to serial

[John Ferlito]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 11:32:23PM +1030, Glen Turner wrote:
> Personally, when configuring routers these days I use a Bluetooth-serial
> dongle, which I hang off about 10cm of shortened Cisco console cable.
> Gets rid of the cable across the computer room floor, which is always a
> trip hazard when making physical changes (about the only time you need
> to jack into the console, as opposed to coming in via a console server).
> I
> picked it up in the USA for US$40 and have never seen its like again.
> I'd love to know if something similar can be sourced locally so that
> other staff members can stop stealing mine.

Hmm I want one of those! The important question though is how many
times do you leave the data centre with it still attached to the
router :)

Expansys have a couple. All quite pricey though.


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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Andrew Bennetts]

Rick Welykochy wrote:
> Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
>> This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? 
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>  sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
>>>
>>> Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!
>> You want to count the total number of characters in a file, not including
>> newlines, that are on lines that don't start with a comma.
>> Does it have to be in shell? :-)
>
> How about this. You want to count the total number of commas in a file.
>
> python -c "import sys; print (''.join(sys.stdin.readlines())).count(',')" < 
> input.txt

You can simplify that slightly:

python -Sc "import sys; print sys.stdin.read().count(',')" < input.txt

This way is faster, too :)

If you want to avoid reading the whole file into memory:

python -Sc "import sys; print sum(l.count(',') for l in sys.stdin)" < input.txt

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Re: [SLUG] USB to serial

[Glen Turner]

On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 12:59 +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> Is there anything that I need to look for in these USB to serial
> converters? Any special software needed?

We (AARNet) use the Keyspan USA-19HS. They are about $49 from the
distributor.
We selected them mainly for continuity of supply -- you can certainly
see other devices around for a lot less. They require a firmware
download and a driver, both of these are built into recent Linux
(eg, not RHEL3).  Absolutely solid and no complaints.

Since you are a customer and AustLII is such a fantastic resource
(I'd just die without your online copy of the Telco Act), drop me
your snail-mail address privately and Santa will send you one.

Some USB-serial devices use the "character device" profile in USB.
These don't require a special driver, but can't do handshaking.

Personally, when configuring routers these days I use a Bluetooth-serial
dongle, which I hang off about 10cm of shortened Cisco console cable.
Gets rid of the cable across the computer room floor, which is always a
trip hazard when making physical changes (about the only time you need
to jack into the console, as opposed to coming in via a console server).
I
picked it up in the USA for US$40 and have never seen its like again.
I'd love to know if something similar can be sourced locally so that
other staff members can stop stealing mine.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Jeff Waugh wrote:


Traditionally it has been quick command line combos, but there are always
offerings in more conventional and esoteric forms. Such as brainf*ck this
time.


I enjoyed the bf and postscript the best so far. 
Any INTERCAL skilz out there?  


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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Jeff Waugh]

> Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
>>> Does it have to be in shell? :-)
>>
>> No sir! But shell usually wins.
>
> On my 1 GHz / 1 GB powerbook, the python one-liner I just submitted runs 5
> x faster than the original.

Ah yes, well there are different definitions of optimisation, and all are
valid in this game. I was referring to command line length and cleverness
though, which is probably a bit exclusive. ;-)

> But what does 'shell' really mean? python,perl, etc.  are external to the
> shell as surely as sed,tr,wc.

Traditionally it has been quick command line combos, but there are always
offerings in more conventional and esoteric forms. Such as brainf*ck this
time.

I posted this as a result of a joke on another mailing list about an amazing
abuse of commas from a particular poster, but also because we haven't had
one of these threads for ages. It was always fun when Herbert Xu or Gus Lees
would smack everyone about with a clever use of cut(1). ;-)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Jamie Wilkinson wrote:

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote:

Hi all,

Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)

 sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m

Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!


You want to count the total number of characters in a file, not including
newlines, that are on lines that don't start with a comma.

Does it have to be in shell? :-)


How about this. You want to count the total number of commas in a file.

python -c "import sys; print (''.join(sys.stdin.readlines())).count(',')" < 
input.txt

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Rick Welykochy]

Jeff Waugh wrote:


Does it have to be in shell? :-)


No sir! But shell usually wins.


On my 1 GHz / 1 GB powerbook, the python one-liner
I just submitted runs 5 x faster than the original.

But what does 'shell' really mean? python,perl, etc.
are external to the shell as surely as sed,tr,wc.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Jeff Waugh]

> >  sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
> >
> >Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!
> 
> You want to count the total number of characters in a file, not including
> newlines, that are on lines that don't start with a comma.

That's an... interesting... reading of the command. Clearly this should be a
Tuesday afternoon only activity rather than a Tuesday-almost-Wednesday after
a few drinks activity. ;-)

> Does it have to be in shell? :-)

No sir! But shell usually wins.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Peter Miller wrote:
>Cascade Premium, please.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
>
>> >   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
>> 
>> Something like the following might be close:
>> 
>> awk 'BEGIN{FS=","}{$0~",$":i=i+NF?i=i+NF-1}END{print(i)}' input.txt
>
>Close in what sense, the syntax error, the length, or the output? ;-)

Why *are* you using the g option to sed's search and replace?

Oh I see, I misread your caret.  Nevermind.
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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)
>
>  sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
>
>Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!

You want to count the total number of characters in a file, not including
newlines, that are on lines that don't start with a comma.

Does it have to be in shell? :-)
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Re: [SLUG] OT Jobs in Sydney Australia

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I hope my post is ok as I am not sure where to post it or what web-sites I
> should be looking at.
>
> I wanted to find out if there are jobs available in Australia for a junior
> Linux systems admin more than likely in the Sydney area.
>
> I do not have any Linux certifications but I am working towards my LPI 101.
>
> My wife and myself are thinking of immigrating to Australia as most of our
> friends are leaving for Australia.
>
> Any advice would be great.
>
> Regards,
> Lee

A good place to start is http://www.slug.org.au/jobs :)


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Re: [SLUG] OT Jobs in Sydney Australia

[Jeff Waugh]

> I hope my post is ok as I am not sure where to post it or what web-sites I
> should be looking at.
> 
> I wanted to find out if there are jobs available in Australia for a junior
> Linux systems admin more than likely in the Sydney area.
> 
> I do not have any Linux certifications but I am working towards my LPI
> 101.
> 
> My wife and myself are thinking of immigrating to Australia as most of our
> friends are leaving for Australia.
> 
> Any advice would be great.

The market is pretty good at the moment -- lots of demand for Linux and Open
Source systems administration skills... Largely because Google are hiring
everyone (and one of them is going to reply to this in order to catch you
and get their blood money)! If you have experience, you are likely to have
an easy time finding a job in Sydney.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Sam Gentle]

On Dec 18, 2007 5:21 PM, Peter Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 16:09 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> > Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)
> >
> >   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
> >
> > Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!
>
> How do you want it optimised?

Well, for readability, speed and code size this handy BF program is
easily the winner:

>,[<[->>+++<<]>>[-<->]+<[[-]>-<]>[->+<]<,]>>.

Keep in mind it's also optimised for usability, so the output is the
ascii value of the number rather than the number itself. It only
handles up to 255 commas (unless you have a unicode BF interpreter.)

HTH,
Sam
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[SLUG] OT Jobs in Sydney Australia

[leei]

Hi all,

I hope my post is ok as I am not sure where to post it or what web-sites I
should be looking at.

I wanted to find out if there are jobs available in Australia for a junior
Linux systems admin more than likely in the Sydney area.

I do not have any Linux certifications but I am working towards my LPI 101.

My wife and myself are thinking of immigrating to Australia as most of our
friends are leaving for Australia.

Any advice would be great.

Regards,
Lee


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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

[Peter Miller]

On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:55 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote:
> I've got a sixpack of beer for a working PostScript variant. :-)

drop this in a file called count.ps

%!PS
/count { 0 { currentfile read { (,) 0 get eq { 1 add } if } { 20
string cvs print (\n) print stop } ifelse } loop } def count

and then use the following command

cat count.ps input.txt | gs -

and, yes, I tested it before posting.
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