[SLUG] Re: Tricky ssh question: Solved

2008-04-01 Thread jam
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 12:46 +0900, jam wrote:
 Hi
 
 Somewhere on the internet is my father-in-law
 
 Using a fresh install of Gutsy, and having apt-get install openssh-server he 
 tunnels to me
 
 ssh -R 1200:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I then go back the tunnel to his machine
 
 ssh -p 1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and get the dreaded
 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
 
 Now the interesting bits:
 If he does this with a SuSE10 machine everything works
 
 If I do it on another fresh-gutsy somewhere else on the
 internet it works

There is a moral here :-)

Despite all protestations of 'I did etc' he did NOT complete the 

apt-get install openssh-server

bit. Who knows wtf he did do :-), but on skype he did say OK all well

So after installing openssh-server everything works as expected. Thanks
and apologies to all
James


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Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

2008-04-01 Thread Morgan Storey
I can see if it had 3.5g a decent camera, real gps and ran Linux I would go
for it... But there are linux Phones coming out that are more open, or run
Linux by default these are the better options.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, James Dumay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Deepan,
 As far as I am aware Linux cannot be run on the iPhone (Im not sure why
 you
 would want to either).

 James

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Deepan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi All,
  I am wondering if anyone has managed to install
  linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for
  ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone.
  Openmoko is a nice alternative though.
  Regards
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Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

2008-04-01 Thread Ryan Verner

On 01/04/2008, at 8:53 AM, Deepan wrote:


Hi All,
I am wondering if anyone has managed to install
linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for
ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone.
Openmoko is a nice alternative though.


Hi Deepan,

I can't possibly understand why you'd want to run Linux on an iPhone.   
The reason why one buys an iPhone is for the UI, not the device;  
there's better options out there if you're wanting to run Linux (no  
removable storage, for one).


Even on Windows Mobile devices that have supported Linux for a very  
long time, and on the tiny few that actually have phone functionality,  
I'm not aware of any decent, well implemented open source dialer/phone  
suites.  i.e. say goodbye to actually using it as an actual phone!


If you want an open source, Linux based phone, the Openmoko or Android  
projects, in theory, should be eventuating into commercial products  
shortly.


Cheers,

R

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RE: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

2008-04-01 Thread Brett Olsen
As a Linux guy  an iphone owner im confused as why you need to install
linux on a iphone ? ..

What are you trying to do, it already runs a BSD based deriviant, I have
SSH, Samaba a console and everything else I need, I can install apache
and any dev tools I need.

What are you interested in doing ? chances are it does it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Morgan Storey
Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 9:07 AM
To: James Dumay
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

I can see if it had 3.5g a decent camera, real gps and ran Linux I would
go
for it... But there are linux Phones coming out that are more open, or
run
Linux by default these are the better options.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, James Dumay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Deepan,
 As far as I am aware Linux cannot be run on the iPhone (Im not sure
why
 you
 would want to either).

 James

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Deepan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi All,
  I am wondering if anyone has managed to install
  linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for
  ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone.
  Openmoko is a nice alternative though.
  Regards
  Deepan
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Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

2008-04-01 Thread Deepan Chakravarthy

Ryan Verner wrote:

On 01/04/2008, at 8:53 AM, Deepan wrote:


Hi All,
I am wondering if anyone has managed to install
linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for
ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone.
Openmoko is a nice alternative though.


Hi Deepan,

I can't possibly understand why you'd want to run Linux on an iPhone. 
It is because I can. It is same as running Linux on macbook. 


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Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

2008-04-01 Thread Morgan Storey
I looked at this one a while ago: http://www.imcosys.com/html/english.html
Only reason I didn't go with it is no 3g and no bluetooth 2.0

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Brett Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As a Linux guy  an iphone owner im confused as why you need to install
 linux on a iphone ? ..

 What are you trying to do, it already runs a BSD based deriviant, I have
 SSH, Samaba a console and everything else I need, I can install apache
 and any dev tools I need.

 What are you interested in doing ? chances are it does it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Morgan Storey
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 9:07 AM
 To: James Dumay
 Cc: slug@slug.org.au
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

 I can see if it had 3.5g a decent camera, real gps and ran Linux I would
 go
 for it... But there are linux Phones coming out that are more open, or
 run
 Linux by default these are the better options.

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, James Dumay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Deepan,
  As far as I am aware Linux cannot be run on the iPhone (Im not sure
 why
  you
  would want to either).
 
  James
 
  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Deepan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi All,
   I am wondering if anyone has managed to install
   linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for
   ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone.
   Openmoko is a nice alternative though.
   Regards
   Deepan
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Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone

2008-04-01 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:06:45 +1100, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 I can see if it had 3.5g a decent camera, real gps and ran Linux I would
 go
 for it... But there are linux Phones coming out that are more open, or
 run
 Linux by default these are the better options.

So there's OpenMoko [1], Android [2], imcosys [3].

Any recommendations on one of these (or others) that I can buy right
here right now? My Palm Treo 650 has been dropped one too many times
and is getting a bit flaky. 

I want a phone/PDA that does Contacts/ToDo/Diary/Memos well, and sync's
with Linux easily. I had a Linux based Zaurus for a while a few years
ago and didn't think much of it - went back to Palm.  

[1] http://www.openmoko.org/
[2] http://code.google.com/android/
[3] http://www.imcosys.com/html/english.html

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[SLUG] Grub Error

2008-04-01 Thread Deepan
Hi All,
I deleted my windows partition using live CD. Now
my machine won't boot into linux. It stops at the
grub prompt with the error operating system not
found. How do I reinstall grub using live CD? Or
should I boot into my linux operating system with
root, kernel and initrd option in grub and then
install grub ?
Regards 
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[SLUG] http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ for Ubuntu?

2008-04-01 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello,

I've just sold another lost soul to try to install Ubuntu on their
(currently failing) Windows Vista laptop.

I like a lot the http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ way - just click on a
link from Windows and it'll take care of everything from there.

I also think I remember seeing something similar for other distro's
but I can't find it now.  Does anyone know of such a thing?

I'm NOT refering to wubi, which installs Linux on top of the Windows
partition. I'm looking for a way to setup dual-boot (shrink windows,
install linux next to it), just like goodbye-microsoft does only for
Ubuntu.

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] Grub Error

2008-04-01 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:26:18 +0530, Deepan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Hi All,
 I deleted my windows partition using live CD. Now

Always a positive move :-)

 my machine won't boot into linux. It stops at the
 grub prompt with the error operating system not
 found. How do I reinstall grub using live CD? Or
 should I boot into my linux operating system with
 root, kernel and initrd option in grub and then
 install grub ?

Boot into live cd, check /boot partition is mounted (usually /boot is
under / ie check / is mounted).

chroot the / partition, and run grub-install - check man grub-install
for options

Google for more examples - I've probably missed something...


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Re: [SLUG] http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ for Ubuntu?

2008-04-01 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:22:05 +1100, Amos Shapira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hello,
 
 I've just sold another lost soul to try to install Ubuntu on their
 (currently failing) Windows Vista laptop.
 
 I like a lot the http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ way - just click on a
 link from Windows and it'll take care of everything from there.

If no one posts in with an Ubuntu version, I wouldn't mind building one
this weekend at Barcamp with some other people. Chat me off list - I
would especially need a Winblows box (or VM - even better) to play
with...

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[SLUG] Re: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ for Ubuntu?

2008-04-01 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I also think I remember seeing something similar for other distro's
  but I can't find it now.  Does anyone know of such a thing?

Turns out that it's http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html

Sorry for the noise...

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[SLUG] Perl Question

2008-04-01 Thread Peter Abbott
Can anyone with greater knowledge than myself explain this regex
behaviour.
This code segment works as intended:


if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
\d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
$box = $1;
$name = $2;
$place = $4;
$time = $5;
$margin = $6;
$name =~ s/\.//;
}

However if the $name substitution is inserted above $place like so it
fails to allocate values to $place, $time and $margin.


if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
\d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
$box = $1;
$name = $2;
$name =~ s/\.//;
$place = $4;
$time = $5;
$margin = $6;
}
Undoubtedly something simple that a self taught dummy has failed to
grasp.

Regards,
Peter.

Happy  proud to be,
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Re: [SLUG] Perl Question

2008-04-01 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Peter Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone with greater knowledge than myself explain this regex
  behaviour.
  This code segment works as intended:


  if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
  \d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
 $box = $1;
 $name = $2;
 $place = $4;
 $time = $5;
 $margin = $6;
 $name =~ s/\.//;
 }

  However if the $name substitution is inserted above $place like so it
  fails to allocate values to $place, $time and $margin.


  if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
  \d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
 $box = $1;
 $name = $2;
 $name =~ s/\.//;
 $place = $4;
 $time = $5;
 $margin = $6;
 }
  Undoubtedly something simple that a self taught dummy has failed to
  grasp.

I suspect that the added line resets the back-references (the
$1..$6). Try moving it under the $margin assignment (i.e. until
after you are done with the back-references).

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Re: [SLUG] Perl Question

2008-04-01 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Peter Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 [..snip..]
 if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
 \d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
$box = $1;
$name = $2;
$name =~ s/\.//;
$place = $4;
$time = $5;
$margin = $6;
}
 Undoubtedly something simple that a self taught dummy has failed to
 grasp.


Hi Peter,

I'm not too sure about this, but I believe when you do $name =~, you're
effectively starting a new regular expression which means it clears $1, $2,
$3, $4, etc (unless you use brackets inside the new regular expression).
Maybe someone else can explain it better than me? :-)

HTH!

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[SLUG] Perl Question

2008-04-01 Thread Peter Abbott
Thanks to all who replied. I am the wiser now.

-  
Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] Perl Question

2008-04-01 Thread Rick Welykochy

Peter Abbott wrote:


if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
\d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
$box = $1;
$name = $2;
$place = $4;
$time = $5;
$margin = $6;
$name =~ s/\.//;
}


correcto



However if the $name substitution is inserted above $place like so it
fails to allocate values to $place, $time and $margin.


if ( $_ =~ m/^Box(\d) ([A-Z]+(\. | ?)[A-Z]* ?[A-Z]*).*?(\d).*?(\d\d\.\d
\d).*?(\d*\.\d\d)L/) {
$box = $1;
$name = $2;
$name =~ s/\.//;
$place = $4;
$time = $5;
$margin = $6;
}


incorrecto and hard to maintain

You've also introduced a very subtle bug that I could not, at first
glance, see. The $name substitution resets $1 ... $6.

Please write maintainable code that is easy to understand.

I wouldn't want to be given the second code example buried amongst
1000+ lines of perl and then asked to fix the obscure bug.


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