Re: [SLUG] Distro for fast web browsing on old machine.

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Ben

 Looking for a distro that does web browsing really well with the
 following specs (or a way to make Ubuntu behave).
 
 I have a Celeron ~1.6GHz machine, 512MiB RAM, 80GB HDD.
 
 Ubuntu 8.04 and now 8.10 both grind almost to a halt when Firefox is
 running. (I think 8.10 is actually worse). There is plenty of free
 memory - 200+
 Happens with one window open or with many. Other browsers are no
 better - tried Opera, same issues.
 
 CPU just hits 100% and just grinds away.

Is it Firefox or X chugging on the CPU (check top)? What kind of video card
and driver are you using? Firefox should be fine on a slowish machine with
lots of RAM (512MB is fine).

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Distro for fast web browsing on old machine.

2008-11-04 Thread Ben
Looking for a distro that does web browsing really well with the
following specs (or a way to make Ubuntu behave).

I have a Celeron ~1.6GHz machine, 512MiB RAM, 80GB HDD.

Ubuntu 8.04 and now 8.10 both grind almost to a halt when Firefox is
running. (I think 8.10 is actually worse). There is plenty of free
memory - 200+
Happens with one window open or with many. Other browsers are no
better - tried Opera, same issues.

CPU just hits 100% and just grinds away.

Cheers,

Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Distro for fast web browsing on old machine.

2008-11-04 Thread James Polley
It would be helpful to know more about what's causing the problems
with the distros you've tried. Is it a runaway processing chewing CPU?
Is it the browser itself chewing CPU? How is the RAM situation - is it
full (and consequently spending a lot of time swapping)? If it is -
how much is free before you start Firefox? How much is Firefox using?

A tool like sar will help a lot with this kind of analysis - but just
keeping a window open running top can give you a good idea as well.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looking for a distro that does web browsing really well with the
 following specs (or a way to make Ubuntu behave).

 I have a Celeron ~1.6GHz machine, 512MiB RAM, 80GB HDD.

 Ubuntu 8.04 and now 8.10 both grind almost to a halt when Firefox is
 running. (I think 8.10 is actually worse). There is plenty of free
 memory - 200+
 Happens with one window open or with many. Other browsers are no
 better - tried Opera, same issues.

 CPU just hits 100% and just grinds away.

 Cheers,

 Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Distro for fast web browsing on old machine.

2008-11-04 Thread Ben
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:28 AM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it Firefox or X chugging on the CPU (check top)?

Ahh, It's Xorg. and in the case of Opera, the problem doesn't seem to
be occurring in 8.10 - although I don't think it has Flash setup...

 What kind of video card
 and driver are you using?

Intel 88245G intergrated - with the default driver.
Originally it ran with desktop effects on, which I disabled. After
upgrading to 8.10 I am no longer able to re-enable them.

Firefox should be fine on a slowish machine with
 lots of RAM (512MB is fine).

Xorg is at about 90M with only another 30 odd to other stuff.

Firefrox
Load yahoo.com.au: Firefox = ~150M and Xorg is ~130
Firefox @ 40% CPU, Xorg at about 60% - the weird thing is they stay at
roughly these levels, even though I'm not scrolling pages etc.

Opera
Load yahoo.com.au: Opera = ~30M, Xorg = ~95
Opera @40% when active, 5% when idle. Xorg at 5-20%. As mentioned
flash isn't installed.

Maybe I should try swiftfox, or just get flash working on Opera?

 - Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Problem with TAR gunzip

2008-11-04 Thread Hasnain
Hi Peter,

Basically, Is there anyway to recover those gzip files? or do you think we
can ignore that corrupted block and extract rest of the file?

Thanks in advance,
Hasnain

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Hasnain == Hasnain  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hasnain Hi Everyone, i was having a bit of issue with a tarball on
 Hasnain friday night as i got the following error.

 Hasnain gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored tar:
 Hasnain Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar:
 Hasnain Error is not recoverable: exiting now

 You have a corrupt tarball.  Gzip decompressed to a certain point, but
 the end of the file was ignored.  Then when tar tried to read the
 result, it found the archive was curtailed.

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Re: [SLUG] Problem with TAR gunzip

2008-11-04 Thread Peter Chubb
 Hasnain == Hasnain  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hasnain Hi Peter, Basically, Is there anyway to recover those gzip
Hasnain files? or do you think we can ignore that corrupted block and
Hasnain extract rest of the file?


You can extract from the start of the file to where the corruption is.
Because of the way that gzip works, decompression depends on the
pattern of bytes you've already seen (unless hte file was compressed
with the rsync-friendly restart every n k (--rsyncable) flag.)

Try zcat file.tgz  file.tar
then tar xvf file.tar

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[SLUG] Re: Steve Ballmer live rally Sydney November 6

2008-11-04 Thread Daniel Bush


On Nov 2, 6:40 am, Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 23:23 +1100, Gerard Kelly wrote:
  Hey All,

  Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer will be hosting a live rally in Sydney
  on
  November 6th.
 ...
  Make a note in your diary now and be watching at the dawn of a new age of
  freedom.

 ...

 In what psychotic world did you imagine this was ontopic for a linux
 users group list?


I, for one, welcome our new cloud computing o...
...oh forget it  :)
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[SLUG] SyPy meeting *this* thursday - 06/11

2008-11-04 Thread Dylan Jay
06/11 - Git vs hg vs bzr
Date  Time: 6:30PM (for a 7pm start) - 8:30PM Thursday, 6th Nov 2008   
Meeting Type: Presentation/shoot out
Venue: Google Australia, Level 18, Tower 1 Darling Park, 201 Sussex St,
Sydney 
Notes: meet in the foyer. If you are late call Dylan on 0421477460.
RSVP: rsvp here
http://anyvite.com/events/home/oktrweu5gx/sypy-0611-git-vs-hg-vs-bzr numbers
are limited. 

Three speakers, three alternative distributed source control systems. We all
know distributed source control is the future but which one should we be
using?
Come and find out and then come along for a beer and chat afterwards.


Dylan Jay
Technical Solutions Manager, Pretaweb.com
Skype:dylan_jay P:+61.2.99552830


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