Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
The first thing that comes to my mind is make sure that both offices have the same ISP, or (this is a good guess) you are in trouble with lag (or am I mistaken here?). jobst On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:21:32AM +1100, Ben Donohue (donoh...@icafe.com.au) wrote: > Hi all, > > (this is a bit like an ask Slashdot... maybe we can have an "ask SLUG") > > my work is looking at rationalizing phone/mobile usage with possibly > VOIP between offices. I've suggested setting up Linux boxes and using > Asterix. > > As usual FOSS is a bit unknown to the higher ups and they are also > looking to external suppliers. > > Just a general question/thread on what have others done to get down the > phone bills of... > inter-office calls > calls to and from mobiles > conferencing (mainly inter-office Australia/NZ and many Asian offices) > Blackberry/Windows Mobile > > Idea's on how others have used Linux and FOSS applications to solve this > problem. > Anyone do this for a living? (perhaps come in or give an intro on what > you can do for us?) > > Thanks, > Ben > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- If builders built buildings the way Microsoft wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, j...@barrett.com.au, General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L & The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] scanner for Linux
Hi Lisa, > My HP3300C A4 flatbed scanner has just died, and I am seeking something > to replace it. > > Can anyone advise on a currently available scanner that will work with > Linux? > > New or second-hand is OK. > My venerable HP Scanjet 2100C died recently and I purchased an Epson Perfection V350 Photo scanner. Linux drivers were provided on their web site (an associate company page) and when used in conjunction with Kooka, works perfectly. It was a lot easier to get going under Linux than it was under Windows from memory. Regards, Rick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
Gonzalo Servat writes: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Jake Anderson wrote: > >> [..snip..] >> >> I have done a few installs with asterisk based soft/hardware. >> Expect some teething troubles. Get a dedicated adsl line if you are heavy >> internet users, QOS hasn't been much of a problem for most installs however. >> Run separate networks for voice and data. >> I use grandstream for the physical phones they seem pretty good, perhaps a >> little fragile physically (they reset if you bash them, moral of the story, >> don't bash them). Do NOT use cisco phones, that way lies madness. >> don't bother trying to run a hybrid between your new and old systems. Run >> in parallel for a bit if you can with all outbound calls on the new system. >> Then dump the old and go full IP. >> >> If you want some help with setup and demo drop me a line > > Another suggestion: check out FreeSWITCH. It's an alternative to Asterisk > and I would personally never go back to Asterisk unless I absolutely had to > (ie. gun to my head). Actually, out of curiosity, and since I want to get rid of Asterisk and replace it with something (anything, so help me, anything at all) else. FreeSWITCH is popular at the moment; the only other convincing option I have run across is yate. So, dear lazyweb, can you tell me: Have you actually used FreeSWITCH or YATE in a small SIP-only environment? Did it work well, reliably and with minimal maintenance? Did it work effectively as an answering machine for home? (That is, play a message, record the caller message, notify you, with nothing much more fancy than that available?) Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Jake Anderson wrote: > [..snip..] > > I have done a few installs with asterisk based soft/hardware. > Expect some teething troubles. Get a dedicated adsl line if you are heavy > internet users, QOS hasn't been much of a problem for most installs however. > Run separate networks for voice and data. > I use grandstream for the physical phones they seem pretty good, perhaps a > little fragile physically (they reset if you bash them, moral of the story, > don't bash them). Do NOT use cisco phones, that way lies madness. > don't bother trying to run a hybrid between your new and old systems. Run > in parallel for a bit if you can with all outbound calls on the new system. > Then dump the old and go full IP. > > If you want some help with setup and demo drop me a line > Another suggestion: check out FreeSWITCH. It's an alternative to Asterisk and I would personally never go back to Asterisk unless I absolutely had to (ie. gun to my head). - Gonzalo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
Ben Donohue wrote: Hi all, (this is a bit like an ask Slashdot... maybe we can have an "ask SLUG") my work is looking at rationalizing phone/mobile usage with possibly VOIP between offices. I've suggested setting up Linux boxes and using Asterix. As usual FOSS is a bit unknown to the higher ups and they are also looking to external suppliers. Just a general question/thread on what have others done to get down the phone bills of... inter-office calls calls to and from mobiles conferencing (mainly inter-office Australia/NZ and many Asian offices) Blackberry/Windows Mobile Idea's on how others have used Linux and FOSS applications to solve this problem. Anyone do this for a living? (perhaps come in or give an intro on what you can do for us?) Thanks, Ben I have done a few installs with asterisk based soft/hardware. Expect some teething troubles. Get a dedicated adsl line if you are heavy internet users, QOS hasn't been much of a problem for most installs however. Run separate networks for voice and data. I use grandstream for the physical phones they seem pretty good, perhaps a little fragile physically (they reset if you bash them, moral of the story, don't bash them). Do NOT use cisco phones, that way lies madness. don't bother trying to run a hybrid between your new and old systems. Run in parallel for a bit if you can with all outbound calls on the new system. Then dump the old and go full IP. If you want some help with setup and demo drop me a line -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] scanner for Linux
2009/2/10 Daniel Pittman : > Lisa Roberts writes: >> New or second-hand is OK. > > Then it becomes a question of finding something that meets your > technical requirements, is on the HCL, and is within your budget. I put up my HP PSC 2410 (multi-function, including a scaner) on eBay and got $5.50 for it (yes, five dollar fifty cents). Someone in Melbourne who put up exactly the same printer at the same time got same price (both of us didn't offer shipping so we didn't compete with each other). Might be worth a try. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] scanner for Linux
Lisa Roberts writes: > My HP3300C A4 flatbed scanner has just died, and I am seeking > something to replace it. Can anyone advise on a currently available > scanner that will work with Linux? No, but I can advise you how to answer that question for yourself: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html See also the list of external providers; the HP software is referenced from there, and supports more or less everything they do, but check their HCL to be certain. That is the software behind all the Linux scanning support, so what it supports is what will work with Linux. > New or second-hand is OK. Then it becomes a question of finding something that meets your technical requirements, is on the HCL, and is within your budget. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] scanner for Linux
Hi My HP3300C A4 flatbed scanner has just died, and I am seeking something to replace it. Can anyone advise on a currently available scanner that will work with Linux? New or second-hand is OK. Lisa --- Lisa Roberts www.lisaroberts.com.au www.antarcticanimation.com Post:- Suite 326, 353 King Street Newtown, NSW, 2042 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
Ben Donohue writes: > my work is looking at rationalizing phone/mobile usage with possibly > VOIP between offices. I've suggested setting up Linux boxes and using > Asterix. > > As usual FOSS is a bit unknown to the higher ups and they are also > looking to external suppliers. This is a good idea: Asterisk, and VoIP in general, have a non-trivial number of potential issues that can cause you significant grief if you don't know about them before you start. This, or some other VoIP based solution, is a fairly reasonable strategy though. I would suggest you look into VoIP / Asterisk solution providers in your area. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
Hi Ben, I have done a variety of IT projects for a living in my time, including an implementation of a proprietary VoIP system. While I arrived at the project with good IT and Data Network experience and even some insight into Telephony and long distance dedicated links - the main issue I struck was that the gulf between the even Digital Telephony and Data worlds (both internal groups and suppliers). In no way is this a definitive list - but things to watch out for include: Network design, Quality of Service (a big thing in Voice communication) and IP telephony offers new features, sometimes at the cost of reliability of the good old times when you could pick up a phone and expect it to dial and speak! With regard to costing, the equipment is easy to cost, network/telephone budget, the change/project management is usually more difficult. Testing, running parallel systems and redirecting telephone numbers in different jurisdictions isn't a trivial exercise either. Most people now see mobile phones as the back up system - which may need to be costed into the company if not the departments bottom line. I haven't used Asterisk - but it is worth checking out how it fits into a VoIP network, rather than just whether it handles Digital and Analog Phone lines/links. Marghanita Ben Donohue wrote: Hi all, (this is a bit like an ask Slashdot... maybe we can have an "ask SLUG") my work is looking at rationalizing phone/mobile usage with possibly VOIP between offices. I've suggested setting up Linux boxes and using Asterix. As usual FOSS is a bit unknown to the higher ups and they are also looking to external suppliers. Just a general question/thread on what have others done to get down the phone bills of... inter-office calls calls to and from mobiles conferencing (mainly inter-office Australia/NZ and many Asian offices) Blackberry/Windows Mobile Idea's on how others have used Linux and FOSS applications to solve this problem. Anyone do this for a living? (perhaps come in or give an intro on what you can do for us?) Thanks, Ben -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:21:32AM +1100, Ben Donohue wrote: > Hi all, > > (this is a bit like an ask Slashdot... maybe we can have an "ask SLUG") > > my work is looking at rationalizing phone/mobile usage with possibly > VOIP between offices. I've suggested setting up Linux boxes and using > Asterix. > > As usual FOSS is a bit unknown to the higher ups and they are also > looking to external suppliers. > > Just a general question/thread on what have others done to get down the > phone bills of... > inter-office calls > calls to and from mobiles > conferencing (mainly inter-office Australia/NZ and many Asian offices) > Blackberry/Windows Mobile > > Idea's on how others have used Linux and FOSS applications to solve this > problem. > Anyone do this for a living? (perhaps come in or give an intro on what > you can do for us?) the simple steps I did to get voip (not necessarily foss ) into the places I manage 1) played with it a home - get to know your hardware/software/ acronyms 2) I went with a sipuria ata 3000 - if fits between you phone and the exchange no need to change the phone or phone line - you do need an internet service capable of handling voip. Note I have also placed it between a pabx and exchange. sipuria got bought out by linksys now cisco the current module is a spa3102. The really good thing about them is once they are in place if anything goes wrong, just pull the power and the fall back to straight through connections to the pstn - as if the device wasn't there. Now just route all your outgoing calls with a VSP. I would suggest pennytel for one reason, they can make you number (CID) look like your pstn number, my net phone can't so outgoing calls looks like they came from your normal land line. you will probably save most of your cost with the above setup. (depending on the number of lines and simultaneous calls etc etc0 once you happy with this then maybe move forward with voip / ip handset > > Thanks, > Ben > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ask SLUG - IP Telephony
Hi all, (this is a bit like an ask Slashdot... maybe we can have an "ask SLUG") my work is looking at rationalizing phone/mobile usage with possibly VOIP between offices. I've suggested setting up Linux boxes and using Asterix. As usual FOSS is a bit unknown to the higher ups and they are also looking to external suppliers. Just a general question/thread on what have others done to get down the phone bills of... inter-office calls calls to and from mobiles conferencing (mainly inter-office Australia/NZ and many Asian offices) Blackberry/Windows Mobile Idea's on how others have used Linux and FOSS applications to solve this problem. Anyone do this for a living? (perhaps come in or give an intro on what you can do for us?) Thanks, Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] useful bash tricks thread
2009/2/9 Rick Welykochy : > If I realise that sensitive info made it into the history file, > I remove it by editing .bash_history > > You may have to futz around closing that shell and opening a new > one and ensure the info is really gone. And that's where I think that "history -d" comes handy :) Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Installing a USB modem.
Bought the Telstra USB modem. Connected it to the laptop (Fujitsu, running Intrepid) Nothing came up on the monitor. Strange, I expected *something*, even if only an error message; but not even that. The light on the modem came on. But 0 else. Is there something I should have done (connecting *after* booting up, rather than *before*?) Any help etc. Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] useful bash tricks thread
Amos Shapira wrote: Yes but what if you (or someone else sharing the root account) got it into history by accident? If I realise that sensitive info made it into the history file, I remove it by editing .bash_history You may have to futz around closing that shell and opening a new one and ensure the info is really gone. cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. -- Scott Adams -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
