Re: [SLUG] XBitHack

2009-05-13 Thread Ken Wilson
There is an add-on that allows a reply to list button to appear on the 
toolbar. I have just found it.

Ken

david wrote:

Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

Hi Irma,

Think about this for a second: if you can do that to other people,
can't other people do that to you?

Wouldn't it be annoying if everyone who sent you an e-mail thought
that their message was more important than others, and so decided to
make it show up in red in your inbox?



Hi Sridhar

Isn't it annoying when you think you have a reply to the thread of which 
you were the OP, and it turns out that someone has hijacked the thread 
without changing the subject line?? Ah etiquette, etiquette...


It's ok though.. my tongue is in my cheek and I'm not *really* annoyed.

:)--smiley

David.



PS.. and seeing that we have changed the subject... how do you make 
thudderbird reply to list? I can't find the function anywhere. Possibly 
because i'm stupid, I know.

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[SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread Ken Foskey

I have a very large xfs file system that is corrupt and there is an IO
error in the middle of the file system, xfs_repair crashes.  A bit of
reading and I have a solution,  just thought I would put it out there in
case I have forgotten something.

Booting xeon server with 32 bit Ubuntu live CD.   All the hard disks on
new server in LVM giving me 3.76 TB.  I am copying 3.3TB from the other
server.

First I need to grab a copy of the data across the network,  from my new
server I access the old server:

ssh r...@server 'dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync' | dd
of=/dev/vg/lv01

next I simply repair it

xfs_repair  /dev/vg/lv01

Mount it.  I figure this bit is easy by my reading, Ubuntu handles xfs
out of the box (read only so that it cannot be used as a proper server)

I am reading from a 32 bit server and booting a Xeon server with 32 bit
live CD.  This means the NFS should match correctly.

Is the above basically correct?   Is there any hints that I might need.

Ta
Ken


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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread Tony Sceats
I'm actually not sure I'm reading this right, but I don't think you want to
dd to an NFS share? Maybe you meant XFS should match correctly?

If you're trying to do it over a network, I would have thought you'd have
more luck by piping dd through an nc connection, then dd back to a disk on
the target

ie,

on old server : dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync | nc NEWSERVER PORT

on new server: nc -l PORT | dd of=/dev/vg/lv01


Also I'm not sure how the LVM is going to interact because I don't tend to
use LVM on my production servers with XFS


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:


 I have a very large xfs file system that is corrupt and there is an IO
 error in the middle of the file system, xfs_repair crashes.  A bit of
 reading and I have a solution,  just thought I would put it out there in
 case I have forgotten something.

 Booting xeon server with 32 bit Ubuntu live CD.   All the hard disks on
 new server in LVM giving me 3.76 TB.  I am copying 3.3TB from the other
 server.

 First I need to grab a copy of the data across the network,  from my new
 server I access the old server:

 ssh r...@server 'dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync' | dd
 of=/dev/vg/lv01

 next I simply repair it

 xfs_repair  /dev/vg/lv01

 Mount it.  I figure this bit is easy by my reading, Ubuntu handles xfs
 out of the box (read only so that it cannot be used as a proper server)

 I am reading from a 32 bit server and booting a Xeon server with 32 bit
 live CD.  This means the NFS should match correctly.

 Is the above basically correct?   Is there any hints that I might need.

 Ta
 Ken


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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread Ken Foskey

Thanks for replying.

nc in your command simply replaces ssh,  so I think this is the same
thing.   I am not using nfs, I cannot mount anything so it is raw, going
logical volume to logical volume.  They are slightly different sizes,
hope that will not kill anything.

The server that is being copied originally had an LVM so there is no
obvious conflict here.I don't care whether it is fast,   it is a
recovery operation not a prime server.

Ta
Ken



On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:10 +1000, Tony Sceats wrote:
 I'm actually not sure I'm reading this right, but I don't think you
 want to dd to an NFS share? Maybe you meant XFS should match
 correctly? 
 
 If you're trying to do it over a network, I would have thought you'd
 have more luck by piping dd through an nc connection, then dd back to
 a disk on the target
 
 
 ie,
 
 
 on old server : dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync | nc NEWSERVER
 PORT
 
 
 
 on new server: nc -l PORT | dd of=/dev/vg/lv01
 
 
 
 
 Also I'm not sure how the LVM is going to interact because I don't
 tend to use LVM on my production servers with XFS
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 I have a very large xfs file system that is corrupt and there
 is an IO
 error in the middle of the file system, xfs_repair crashes.  A
 bit of
 reading and I have a solution,  just thought I would put it
 out there in
 case I have forgotten something.
 
 Booting xeon server with 32 bit Ubuntu live CD.   All the hard
 disks on
 new server in LVM giving me 3.76 TB.  I am copying 3.3TB from
 the other
 server.
 
 First I need to grab a copy of the data across the network,
  from my new
 server I access the old server:
 
 ssh r...@server 'dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync' | dd
 of=/dev/vg/lv01
 
 next I simply repair it
 
 xfs_repair  /dev/vg/lv01
 
 Mount it.  I figure this bit is easy by my reading, Ubuntu
 handles xfs
 out of the box (read only so that it cannot be used as a
 proper server)
 
 I am reading from a 32 bit server and booting a Xeon server
 with 32 bit
 live CD.  This means the NFS should match correctly.
 
 Is the above basically correct?   Is there any hints that I
 might need.
 
 Ta
 Ken
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Web hosting recommendations

2009-05-13 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Mary Gardiner

 I've looked through the archives but haven't found a lot of relevant
 stuff: most people are looking for VPSes and/or hosting within Australia
 only.
 
 I'm after a web host for a work project. What I need:

Taking into account the corrections in your followup, this sounds like a job
for Dreamhost. Despite driving me absolutely batty, as a well-priced, shared
hosting service for LAMPy stuff, their price to reliability ratio is hard to
beat. They're very FLOSS-clueful too.

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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread Tony Sceats
ah, it appears as though I missed the close quote on your ssh command when I
read it last night, and I also saw NFS, which was  why I was a bit confused
as to what you were trying :)

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:


 Thanks for replying.

 nc in your command simply replaces ssh,  so I think this is the same
 thing.   I am not using nfs, I cannot mount anything so it is raw, going
 logical volume to logical volume.  They are slightly different sizes,
 hope that will not kill anything.

 The server that is being copied originally had an LVM so there is no
 obvious conflict here.I don't care whether it is fast,   it is a
 recovery operation not a prime server.

 Ta
 Ken



 On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:10 +1000, Tony Sceats wrote:
  I'm actually not sure I'm reading this right, but I don't think you
  want to dd to an NFS share? Maybe you meant XFS should match
  correctly?
 
  If you're trying to do it over a network, I would have thought you'd
  have more luck by piping dd through an nc connection, then dd back to
  a disk on the target
 
 
  ie,
 
 
  on old server : dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync | nc NEWSERVER
  PORT
 
 
 
  on new server: nc -l PORT | dd of=/dev/vg/lv01
 
 
 
 
  Also I'm not sure how the LVM is going to interact because I don't
  tend to use LVM on my production servers with XFS
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
  I have a very large xfs file system that is corrupt and there
  is an IO
  error in the middle of the file system, xfs_repair crashes.  A
  bit of
  reading and I have a solution,  just thought I would put it
  out there in
  case I have forgotten something.
 
  Booting xeon server with 32 bit Ubuntu live CD.   All the hard
  disks on
  new server in LVM giving me 3.76 TB.  I am copying 3.3TB from
  the other
  server.
 
  First I need to grab a copy of the data across the network,
   from my new
  server I access the old server:
 
  ssh r...@server 'dd  if=/dev/vg1/lv1  conv=noerror,sync' | dd
  of=/dev/vg/lv01
 
  next I simply repair it
 
  xfs_repair  /dev/vg/lv01
 
  Mount it.  I figure this bit is easy by my reading, Ubuntu
  handles xfs
  out of the box (read only so that it cannot be used as a
  proper server)
 
  I am reading from a 32 bit server and booting a Xeon server
  with 32 bit
  live CD.  This means the NFS should match correctly.
 
  Is the above basically correct?   Is there any hints that I
  might need.
 
  Ta
  Ken
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Web hosting recommendations

2009-05-13 Thread peter

Has anyone tried www.justhosting.com?  They get great reviews, allow
unlimited bandwidth and disk space, are hosted on Unix, and have an
office in Adelaide...

Peter C
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Web hosting recommendations

2009-05-13 Thread Bernie Pannell
Did you mean http://justhost.com?

Cheers,
Bernie.


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM,  pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:
 Has anyone tried www.justhosting.com?  They get great reviews, allow
 unlimited bandwidth and disk space, are hosted on Unix, and have an
 office in Adelaide...
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Web hosting recommendations

2009-05-13 Thread peter
 Bernie == Bernie Pannell bern...@gmail.com writes:

Bernie Did you mean http://justhost.com?  Cheers, Bernie.

Yes.  Sorry.
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Re: [SLUG] Sound in Flash

2009-05-13 Thread David Gillies

Heracles wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi All,
I've done everything I can think of, including googling, and still can't
get sound in my Flash. They work perfectly through totem if I download
them and then play them, but the one site that matters uses flash to set
up the player then inserts the video and although I can see the video
perfectly well, I get no sound at all.
  

It should just be a case of installing the package libflashsupport
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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread foskey

Problem

dd sat and looped on a single point last night.   I have downloaded a
statically linked version of dd_rescue and I am now trying this.   
Fingers crossed.

ssh r...@server '/root/dd_rescue /dev/vg1/lv1 -' | cat  /dev/vg1/lv1 


It is coming up with this error though:

dd_rescue: (info): ipos: 34031.5k, opos: 34031.5k, xferd:
34031.5k
*  errs:  7, errxfer: 3.5k, succxfer:
34028.0k
 +curr.rate:11628kB/s, avg.rate:  149kB/s, avg.load:
 0.1%
dd_rescue: (warning): /dev/vg1/lv1 (34031.5k): Invalid argument!



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[SLUG] recovering removed files

2009-05-13 Thread david
Long story, but I have a photo that has been removed (rm file.jpg) on an ext3 
filesystem, Ubuntu 8.10


The hard drive is NOT the root drive and it has been unmounted and remounted 
read only - # mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint. Nothing was written 
on the drive as far as I know before unmounting.


The obvious question: how to attempt recovery? I've stumbled on a thing called 
ext3undel but it's not in the Ubuntu repositories, which made me suspicious.


There are lots of google comments saying can't be done.

What are my chances? any suggestions? Would be nice to have some success stories 
before I try the wrong thing and mess things up.


thanks

David.
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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread Adrian Chadd
And what is being logged in dmesg?

Your kernel should be spewing a whole lot of error messages if your physical
media is returning errors.



Adrian

On Thu, May 14, 2009, fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Problem
 
 dd sat and looped on a single point last night.   I have downloaded a
 statically linked version of dd_rescue and I am now trying this.   
 Fingers crossed.
 
 ssh r...@server '/root/dd_rescue /dev/vg1/lv1 -' | cat  /dev/vg1/lv1 
 
 
 It is coming up with this error though:
 
 dd_rescue: (info): ipos: 34031.5k, opos: 34031.5k, xferd:
 34031.5k
 *  errs:  7, errxfer: 3.5k, succxfer:
 34028.0k
  +curr.rate:11628kB/s, avg.rate:  149kB/s, avg.load:
  0.1%
 dd_rescue: (warning): /dev/vg1/lv1 (34031.5k): Invalid argument!
 
 
 
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[SLUG] FINALISED - HD ( 1920 x 1080) monitor and Linux - advice pls.]

2009-05-13 Thread bill
This AM drove to Alexandria and visited Allans Music ( waste of time) 
and had intended to visit Harris Technology (gone) which used to be next 
door.


On way home I spied a small computer shop (also in Alexandria) which 
happened to have a BenQ E2400WD in stock, unopened. Pric quoted was 
$345, $85 and $200 cheaper than local shops, so I took it on the spot.


Came home and plugged it in to my KVM switch via VGA and both PCs ( 
Kubuntu 8.10 and Xbuntu 7.10) found it immediately at the correct 
resolution of 1920 x 1200 - plus he Monitor is 16:9 and 1080p.


I'm a happy camper, especially at that price.

Thanks to all who replied to my original post.

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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread foskey
Quoting Adrian Chadd adr...@creative.net.au:

 And what is being logged in dmesg?
 
 Your kernel should be spewing a whole lot of error messages if your
 physical
 media is returning errors.

Still working on this, the whole thing appeared to lock up and we have
rebooted.We have now replaced a drive in the raid and hopefully this
will work better.   Of course this is going to take ages to rebuild.


Ta
Ken
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[SLUG] cannot boot Ubuntu with bios raid setting

2009-05-13 Thread foskey


I have a machine with 6 Harddrives sda = sdf and when I install Ubuntu
desktop it will not boot.  

There is a bios setting for raid and if we set this on we see all 6
harddrives but the install will not boot.

If we set it to not raid we see 4 harddrives and it will boot.

Any suggestions?

Ta
Ken

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Re: [SLUG] FINALISED - HD ( 1920 x 1080) monitor and Linux - advice pls.]

2009-05-13 Thread Owen Townend
2009/5/14 bill bi...@swiftdsl.com.au:
 This AM drove to Alexandria and visited Allans Music ( waste of time) and
 had intended to visit Harris Technology (gone) which used to be next door.

 On way home I spied a small computer shop (also in Alexandria) which
 happened to have a BenQ E2400WD in stock, unopened. Pric quoted was $345,
 $85 and $200 cheaper than local shops, so I took it on the spot.
[snip]

What was the shop in Alexandria?
My usual is Megaware (near Green Square station) but I'd be interested
if there was decent competetition for them in the area...

cheers,
Owen.
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Re: [SLUG] recovering xfs

2009-05-13 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, May 14, 2009, fos...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Still working on this, the whole thing appeared to lock up and we have
 rebooted.We have now replaced a drive in the raid and hopefully this
 will work better.   Of course this is going to take ages to rebuild.

lets hope you don't throw another disk during the rebuild with all of that
parallel IO going on.

:P



Adrian

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Re: [SLUG] recovering removed files

2009-05-13 Thread Owen Townend
2009/5/14 david da...@kenpro.com.au:
 Long story, but I have a photo that has been removed (rm file.jpg) on an
 ext3 filesystem, Ubuntu 8.10

 The hard drive is NOT the root drive and it has been unmounted and remounted
 read only - # mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint. Nothing was
 written on the drive as far as I know before unmounting.

 The obvious question: how to attempt recovery? I've stumbled on a thing
 called ext3undel but it's not in the Ubuntu repositories, which made me
 suspicious.

 There are lots of google comments saying can't be done.

 What are my chances? any suggestions? Would be nice to have some success
 stories before I try the wrong thing and mess things up.

I have had success in the past using autopsy/sleuthkit
(http://www.sleuthkit.org)
There's a slight learning curve, but it should be able to do what you
ask if the data still exists.

cheers,
Owen.
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