Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
I'm sure that lots of people have their favorite solutions Mine is ANTEC NSK1380 case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvdOd_VBnQ I use AMD BE2350 dual core, a couple of TV cards (Twinhan and DIVICO) and a 1T WD green caviar disk. This server draws 30W (at the meter with a stopwatch) and you can't hear it in the same room. (cause it's low power the CPU fan is not WINDING) For bigger boxes the passive CPU coolers are kewl http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/ CPU PARTS -> AMD SOCKET 2 -> FAN COOLERS You *can* get quiet without the technical overload. James Mine is a large silverstone case http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_spec.php?pno=lc17&area=usa I have 4 or 5 80mm fans in it one per hdd rack, 2 or 3 near the CPU (cant remember) an antek 600W psu with a 120mm fan quad core q6600 It has 4 hdd's in (2x 320s, 1x 400, 1x1000) it and a bluray. The noisiest fan in it, is a 40mm fan I put onto the onboard VGA (9400) because it seemed hot. That said, when I put a DVD in the seek noise swamps the other noise from the system. There is a fish tank next to the TV and the noise from the airstones in it is louder than the TV system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
On Thursday 08 October 2009 08:36:45 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > I've read that sinking it in an oil bath reduces the noise and gets rid > of the heat quite well... > Sunflower oil is OK but pure Aceite De Oliva Espanol Moro Pure Olive oil > is best. > Make sure it's the 100% pure (no cholesterol) so you can also drain it > six monthly and cook some hot chips in it as well. > My Italian wife swears by it. > > Ciao, > Ben > > Ken Foskey wrote: > > My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used > > much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power > > supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. > > > > I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else > > can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run > > quietly? I'm sure that lots of people have their favorite solutions Mine is ANTEC NSK1380 case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvdOd_VBnQ I use AMD BE2350 dual core, a couple of TV cards (Twinhan and DIVICO) and a 1T WD green caviar disk. This server draws 30W (at the meter with a stopwatch) and you can't hear it in the same room. (cause it's low power the CPU fan is not WINDING) For bigger boxes the passive CPU coolers are kewl http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/ CPU PARTS -> AMD SOCKET 2 -> FAN COOLERS You *can* get quiet without the technical overload. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues
Oh I just had a thought, if your using a vdpau based version of myth, what driver are you using. If your using an nvidia driver there was some incompatibility mentioned between versions of avenards repo and the drivers. Meijer, Luke wrote: Thanks for this. I will check it out but I am not to fussed as I want to re-install 9.10 at the end of the month anyway. Have you looked at 0.22 at all? I am hoping it is ready for joint release with Koala. Luke -Original Message- From: Jake Anderson [mailto:ya...@vapourforge.com] Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:19 PM To: Meijer, Luke Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log I am running the same setup as you are with no problems vdpau seems to have fixed a judder/tearing issue I was having and all seems to be working well now with minimal CPU use. Meijer, Luke wrote: Hi Jake Yea a reboot was done after the updates and the issue still surfaced. I guess I am not sure what logs I should be looking at for the issues. Luke ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues
Nah i'm lazy If its not in a repo its too hard ;-> Koala has probably had a version freeze by now? so if .22 isn't in now it probably wont be. Not saying there wont be a backport or unofficial repo but its not quite the same ;-> Meijer, Luke wrote: Thanks for this. I will check it out but I am not to fussed as I want to re-install 9.10 at the end of the month anyway. Have you looked at 0.22 at all? I am hoping it is ready for joint release with Koala. Luke -Original Message- From: Jake Anderson [mailto:ya...@vapourforge.com] Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:19 PM To: Meijer, Luke Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log I am running the same setup as you are with no problems vdpau seems to have fixed a judder/tearing issue I was having and all seems to be working well now with minimal CPU use. Meijer, Luke wrote: Hi Jake Yea a reboot was done after the updates and the issue still surfaced. I guess I am not sure what logs I should be looking at for the issues. Luke ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] quiet computer
I just built a HTPC with an ANTEC 650w signature PSU and some Noctua case fans. I also got a scythe mini ninja cpu cooler and replaced the standard fan with another Noctua silent fan. The setup is whisper quiet. Luke -Original Message- From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au [mailto:slug-boun...@slug.org.au] On Behalf Of Chris Johns Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 3:09 PM To: Jeff Waugh Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] quiet computer Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Turns out it's quite scary when the disks go crazy in the dead of night when > the TV isn't on. :-) > I have found it helps to draw the curtains when there is a full moon. ;) Regards Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] MythTV issues
Hi Jake Yea a reboot was done after the updates and the issue still surfaced. I guess I am not sure what logs I should be looking at for the issues. Luke -Original Message- From: Jake Anderson [mailto:ya...@vapourforge.com] Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:28 AM To: Meijer, Luke Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues I know its windowsish, but have you tried rebooting? If some of the backend library's get updated when you start myth up again it'll be using the new libs but half the stuff its talking to will be using the old ones and it'll all get horribly screwed up. Meijer, Luke wrote: > Hello > > Hoping someone is familiar with MythTV. > > I built a new HTPC box last week and had everything working perfectly. > > It was a vanilla Ubuntu 9.04 build then I installed MythTV + the avenard repo > for the 0.21+fixes and VDPAU support. > > HDMI video / audio, LCD screen, Shepard EPG and mythweb were all perfect. > > Last night I got notified that updates were available and after installing (a > lot came down from the avenard repo) I launch Mythtv and it just kicks me > back to the desktop. > > Running the mythfrontend -v all gives me a segmentation fault and checking > the 'crashes' log tells me mythbackend is not configured. > > If I launch mythbackend it tells me to run mythfilldatabase, if I run > mythfilldatabase and run the mythbackend it just tells me the same thing over > and over. > > I thought I could re-install so I removed then added it back in through the > package manager but just get the exact same problem. > > Does anyone have any angles for me to go down? I don't mind re-installing > mythtv (is there some way to restore what I had previously working?). > > If I get it working again I think I will skip any updates until Ubuntu 9.10 > and 0.22 are officially released (hopefully soon!). > > Thanks for any help > > Luke > ** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ** > ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)
> Is it that VirtualBox isn't emulating x86 hardware properly? Or, is it > a bug in obsd? (I am thinking the former). Any Ideas/suggestion are > entertained (Trying in VMware right now) Yes, Virtualbox is not emulating a PC correctly. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: quiet computer
I'd agree with Morgan here. I have a spare Zalman. They're brilliant. My spare one (hint) is this one: http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=312 VERY quiet and beautiful to look at :)) I also had (but have since sold) a Seasonic S12II 430W Power Supply which I can also recommend. Very quiet. Regards, Patrick Ken Foskey wrote > Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:44:20 +1100 > > My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used > much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power > supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. > To which Morgan wrote: > Morgan Storey > Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:52:12 +1100 SNIP > There are higher power internal case power supplies too have a look at the > Zalman and Silverstone offerings below, I bought a 600w silverstone a while > ago and it's single 120mm fan is quieter than my cpu fan. > http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-233-1.htm (no fan, but old there > is a new one iirc) > and http://www.silentpcreview.com/article688-page1.html (has a big slow fan > and heat pipes, also 600w) > -- http://lugnuts.wftl-lug.org/pg/blog/Patrick www.youcantdothatinlinux.com Registered GNU/Linux User 368634 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 14:44 +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: > My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used > much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power > supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. > > I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else > can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run > quietly? Depending on what 'powerful' means, a fanless media server may suite you too. -Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] django/rails
If I were looking at django based on rails I'd be looking at: > [...] Hi Daniel, all good points, and I'd also consider javascript library integration, and support for version control and deployment tools. Thanks, Nicholas -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues
/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log I am running the same setup as you are with no problems vdpau seems to have fixed a judder/tearing issue I was having and all seems to be working well now with minimal CPU use. Meijer, Luke wrote: Hi Jake Yea a reboot was done after the updates and the issue still surfaced. I guess I am not sure what logs I should be looking at for the issues. Luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] sendmail falling under its own warning messages
Hello, I have an old Fedora machine running sendmail 8.14.1 as a relay of spam reports from a large ISP to our system. It generally works fine but apparently the follow has happened in the last few days: 1. For one reason or another, it started falling behind on the backlog. 2. By the default configuration, it started to generate the "Can't deliver in 4 hours" warning message to be sent back to the submitters of spam reports. 3. These messages filled up its queue and caused it to fall even further behind. 4. Chaos ensues - incoming connections dropped because of high load average, queue runs never manage to cleanup queues, more messages arrive to the incoming queue, more warnings and bounces are put into the outgoing queue etc. My conclusion is that these spam report delayed warnings and bounce messages are pretty useless - I'd rather drop the warnings, bounce reports and even drop the old spam reports instead of trying to treat them as so important that I just MUST deliver them. I found Timeout.queuewarn but that would only allow me to prolong the time before the warning message is generated or the message is bounced back. I'd like to just drop the message. I'd also like to have these rules only for spam reports, not the administrative e-mails generated by the system. I suspect this might be achievable by dedicating a separate queue for the spam submissions, right? Can someone point me on how to achieve that? The closest I found were scripts to periodically grep and delete specific messages (which is basically what I did ad-hoc today to cleanup the queue). Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
Hi Ken, I've read that sinking it in an oil bath reduces the noise and gets rid of the heat quite well... Sunflower oil is OK but pure Aceite De Oliva Espanol Moro Pure Olive oil is best. Make sure it's the 100% pure (no cholesterol) so you can also drain it six monthly and cook some hot chips in it as well. My Italian wife swears by it. Ciao, Ben Ken Foskey wrote: My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run quietly? Thanks Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)
Hi guys, (Pardon since lot of people use *BSD and Linux together but if rude, I'll take it off-list) Ok. It installs fine. However, I keep getting segfaults on simple programs (such as xorgconfig). (I don't have exact text/dmesg to dump right now but I can produce it if required) Is it that VirtualBox isn't emulating x86 hardware properly? Or, is it a bug in obsd? (I am thinking the former). Any Ideas/suggestion are entertained (Trying in VMware right now) Thanks. -- Regards, Ishwor Gurung -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues
My myth knowledge is a bit dated the media centre here gets so heavily used it still hasn't been upgraded from 0.3. The MySQL database backend is still running I assume, maybe some db corruption, you could try dropping the db and rebuilding it from the mythtv-setup (suggestion back it up first)? If that doesn't work maybe it is a config issue elsewhere, there are config files you can play with locate is your friend. Or just "apt-get package --purge" mythtv and MySQL and reinstall (as long as nothing else is using MySQL on your box... I am running a bit on the myth boxes MySQL here) -- Forwarded message -- From: Jake Anderson Date: Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] MythTV issues To: "Meijer, Luke" Cc: "slug@slug.org.au" I know its windowsish, but have you tried rebooting? If some of the backend library's get updated when you start myth up again it'll be using the new libs but half the stuff its talking to will be using the old ones and it'll all get horribly screwed up. Meijer, Luke wrote: > Hello > > Hoping someone is familiar with MythTV. > > I built a new HTPC box last week and had everything working perfectly. > > It was a vanilla Ubuntu 9.04 build then I installed MythTV + the avenard > repo for the 0.21+fixes and VDPAU support. > > HDMI video / audio, LCD screen, Shepard EPG and mythweb were all perfect. > > Last night I got notified that updates were available and after installing > (a lot came down from the avenard repo) I launch Mythtv and it just kicks me > back to the desktop. > > Running the mythfrontend -v all gives me a segmentation fault and checking > the 'crashes' log tells me mythbackend is not configured. > > If I launch mythbackend it tells me to run mythfilldatabase, if I run > mythfilldatabase and run the mythbackend it just tells me the same thing > over and over. > > I thought I could re-install so I removed then added it back in through the > package manager but just get the exact same problem. > > Does anyone have any angles for me to go down? I don't mind re-installing > mythtv (is there some way to restore what I had previously working?). > > If I get it working again I think I will skip any updates until Ubuntu 9.10 > and 0.22 are officially released (hopefully soon!). > > Thanks for any help > > Luke > ** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ** > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
There are higher power internal case power supplies too have a look at the Zalman and Silverstone offerings below, I bought a 600w silverstone a while ago and it's single 120mm fan is quieter than my cpu fan. http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-233-1.htm (no fan, but old there is a new one iirc) and http://www.silentpcreview.com/article688-page1.html (has a big slow fan and heat pipes, also 600w) On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:36 PM, david wrote: > Have a look at your case too... I've found the same fan in a good case is > MUCH quieter. > > My $200 Antec case (PS not included) is much quieter than the $60 cheapie. > I'll never buy another cheap case. > > > Mark Walkom wrote: > >> Take a look at the Noctua range on 120m fans. >> I'd also replace the GPU fan/heatsink as they are noisy even when idle. >> >> 2009/10/7 Ken Foskey : >> >>> My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used >>> much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power >>> supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. >>> >>> I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else >>> can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run >>> quietly? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Ken >>> -- >>> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ >>> Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html >>> >>> -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
Have a look at your case too... I've found the same fan in a good case is MUCH quieter. My $200 Antec case (PS not included) is much quieter than the $60 cheapie. I'll never buy another cheap case. Mark Walkom wrote: Take a look at the Noctua range on 120m fans. I'd also replace the GPU fan/heatsink as they are noisy even when idle. 2009/10/7 Ken Foskey : My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run quietly? Thanks Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] quiet computer
Take a look at the Noctua range on 120m fans. I'd also replace the GPU fan/heatsink as they are noisy even when idle. 2009/10/7 Ken Foskey : > > My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used > much and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power > supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning. > > I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else > can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run > quietly? > > Thanks > Ken > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
