Re: [SLUG] Fax to Email server
Hmmm... On 03/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Rob Thomas wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Fitzgerald k...@tcgtech.com.auwrote: Yeah. I have raised the external provider idea with the customer but got shot down It's cheaper, easier, and faster, to use an external provider. We use this for hundreds of faxes per month. The per-page cost is _less_ than the cost of the phonecall.. Yes, that may be the case. It's also true that the customer mightn't want to pay for something the customer does not want... :) DSL-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Doing Good
I have no idea why Apple Mail didn't wrap the lines. That said, I think we should all wear tin foil hats too :) DSL On 11/10/2010, at 5:11 PM, Nick Andrew wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:31:36PM +1030, David Lloyd wrote: Well, considering they're one of the big three companies supporting it the effort, the service does give a sensible response, many people have noticed this (i.e. PEOPLE) whom I personally trust not ALL to have fallen for something villainous. Plus, whatever we might think of Telstra, I'm fairly certain they'd act on something that was phoney in the interests of their own reputation. I didn't see any causal connection between www.ideasforgood.com.au and Telstra. www.ideasforgood.com.au is registered to DROGA5 AUSTRALIA PTY LTD, not Telstra, and hosted on Bulletproof Networks, not Telstra. However, searching Telstra's website shows a press release dated today: http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/media-centre/announcements/send-an-sms-to-help-connect-remote-aussie-kids-with-their-future.xml So it's legit. I wouldn't trust association (telstra promotes OLPC so this must be legit), popularity (my friends are smart enough to not get ripped off) or Telstra's ability to protect its reputation as sufficient evidence of the veracity of that site. On the face it smells like a scam - kinda like that Bill Gates' Money chain letter, or at least a stunt, as it is asking the reader to do something useless to indirectly support a good cause. And then I remembered, Telstra gets revenue from every SMS sent from their network, probably also for every cross-network SMS received. The revenue from those SMSs will offset the cost of supplying OLPC laptops, perhaps up to 25% of the hardware cost. And if the promotion is very successful it will reach its 500-laptop limit and the SMSs will continue to come in; potentially paying for all of the promotional costs. Nick. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Doing Good
Well, considering they're one of the big three companies supporting it the effort, the service does give a sensible response, many people have noticed this (i.e. PEOPLE) whom I personally trust not ALL to have fallen for something villainous. Plus, whatever we might think of Telstra, I'm fairly certain they'd act on something that was phoney in the interests of their own reputation. DSL On 11/10/2010, at 4:11 PM, Nick Andrew wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:03:33AM +1100, Ashley Maher wrote: For every 100 text messages, we?ll give an XO laptop to a child who needs it, up to 500 laptops. Text the word ?LAPTOP? to 044 SUPPORT (0447 877 678)* http://www.ideasforgood.com.au/category/future/one-laptop-per-child.html Interesting idea. How do we know this is legitimately from Telstra? Nick. -- PGP Key ID = 0x418487E7 http://www.nick-andrew.net/ PGP Key fingerprint = B3ED 6894 8E49 1770 C24A 67E3 6266 6EB9 4184 87E7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] yet another reason to advocate Linux
Don't let this become a Linux only thing - whether one thinks Free as in FSF, open source as in the OSI or supports proprietary Microsoft...child labour is abhorrent regardless and has nothing to do with the freedom of software. It is, plain and simple, wrong. DSL -Original Message- From: meryl gnu...@aromagardens.com.au To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Re: [chat] yet another reason to advocate Linux Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:40:54 +1000 ... the point of the article was that MS Apple are using exploitative child labour in sweatshop conditions. It's an interesting article, well worth the read. Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Time Pedantry
Hmmm... -Original Message- From: Steve Allen sla29...@gmail.com To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Re: Time Pedantry Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:39:46 -0700 (PDT) On Apr 7, 7:03 pm, Jamie Wilkinson j...@spacepants.org wrote: If time_t was defined as a representation of TAI instead of UTC, it'd be harder to get it wrong. Except that TAI is not available until next month and the BIPM recommends against the use of TAI in any real-time system. When is next month again :? DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets
Why would we need to bother writing something ourselves? 1. Go to google 2. Type in something likely to get bad content (eg. sex) 3. Submit EVERY SINGLE result to the list arbitrators (Reasoning: well, clearly WE don't know what's classified - if we did, why would we need the Government to write great big laws about such things?) DSL -Original Message- From: Adam Kennedy adamkennedybac...@gmail.com Reply-to: a...@ali.as To: Mike beatbreake...@gmail.com Cc: slug@slug.org.au slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:08:10 +1100 Is anyone aware of any groups taking more direct technical action against this proposal? I'm more of a builder of things than a talker, and it occurs to me that if the scope of potential blocking is as wide as it (naively, to me) appears to be (and based on comments such as 80% of the 95 million porn sites fall under this criteria from the Sex Party etc) then the theoretical maximum size of the block list is something like 100 million URLs and contains every online games shop that sells NC video games, and so on and so forth. I'm pondering the idea of automating the web trawling process to find NC content, and then just submit all 100 million NC content URLs to the people that maintain the blocklist... This is to some degree idle speculation, and I'm sure that any specific attempt to do something like this would need to be more thoroughly researched, but if anyone can recommend any technical anti-filter forums within the various groups protesting this it would be handy... Adam K 2009/12/15 Mike beatbreake...@gmail.com: I'm not sure if this belongs here, sorry if it doesn't. Well looks like the government got it's way. Our Internet will be censored next year. http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] LaTeX and Word
Couldn't you do a dvi2rtf or get the LaTeX into RTF which most Word readers could read? DSL -Original Message- From: wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] LaTeX and Word Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:10:01 +1000 Could someone help me with a problem I have with Fred? I know and use LaTeX: Fred does not. So: 1. LaTeX a document. Produce a pdf file. 2. Produce a Word document, no matter how crude. 3. Mail both to Fred. Fred inspects the pdf document and edits the Word document. 4. Fred mails the Word document back to me and I make the changes to the LaTeX document. Number 2 is what's the matter. Is there a quick and dirty way to do this? It doesn't have to be marvellous, just accurate wrt text. Any help, etc. Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ACPI temperature
Erik, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: The system is running Ubuntu Hardy and has all the usual ACPi related packages installed. ii acpi0.09-3ubuntu1 displays information on ACPI devices ii acpid 1.0.4-5ubuntu9 utilities for using ACPI power management ii acpidump20061130-1 utilities to dump system's ACPI tables to an ii acpitail0.1-1 Show ACPI information in a tail-like style ii acpitool0.4.7-1ubuntu1 a small, convenient command-line ACPI client ii libacpi00.2-1 general purpose library for ACPI Anybody have any suggestions on how to get this working? Possibly a silly question but do you know if the sensors work *at all*? DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Perl IO::Socket question
Shane,
while (my ($client, $client_address) = $server-accept()) {
my ($port, $packed_ip) = sockaddr_in($client_address);
my $client_ip = inet_ntoa($packed_ip);
my $stamp = timestamp;
print LOGFILE $stamp - Client ($client_ip) connected.\n if $DEBUG ==
1;
$client-recv($recv, 128);
chomp($recv);
if (exists($commands{$recv})) {
$client-send(Works! Received: $recv);
} else {
$client-send(Doesn't work! We received this: $recv);
}
}
It could be IO buffering (this, btw, is a wild guess); try putting:
$| = 1;
As close to the beginning of the file/script as you can and see what
happens.
DSL
1) http://perl.plover.com/FAQs/Buffering.html
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Re: [SLUG] screen on SunOS
Sonia, uname -a SunOS fubar 5.8 Generic_108528-23 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-60 vi foo screen: Unknown terminal type I don't know what kind of terminal you are on - all I have is 'screen'. [Using open mode] I think that the problem is that a TERM of type 'screen' isn't listed in /etc/termcap on the Sun box, but how do I solve it? Copy the terminfo from a Linux box up to the Sun box? Set TERM to something else when on the Sun box (and if so, to what?). Try: export TERM=xterm export TERM=vt100 export TERM=ansi You might lose the ability to see things doing this so do this at the start of your session. If it does do something spectacularly bizarre, try reset and if that command doesn't work, log out and try again with a different option. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Rusty migration + downtime, 20/07/2007 @ 1500 - 1800
Lindsay, We're migrating SLUG's server Rusty to a new machine in the Solutions First rack. You should name the new machine, StarlightExpress! DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh questions
Howdy, yes, that's a better idea than buying latger HD (for the logs) what about a low port, I saw a suggestion like port 14 ? what command to see used ports ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ netstat -anp --inet You could also nmap yourself :) DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
Phil, sudden drop out. I guess another good idea is to protect with a UPS of some sort - they are relatively cheap (compared to losing all the data) and only need offer a minute or 2 up time to be able to unmount the partition correctly and shutdown. True; I wonder whether there's been any serious study done on what common file systems actually do when the power just goes out from underneath them. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Qmail Gets Hung by Viruses on Client Computers (I think)
Hi There, I have a qmail server which processes a number of messages and then stops at a set of ones that look like this: qmail-remote yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The effect is a DOS. Does anyone know of any possible solution to this? DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] howto remotely edit session panel? (Ubuntu Edgy)
Alan, When I had to change some settings for a friend, I used the VNC stuff. That seemed to make it easy. It strikes me that Sonia could also start a real Gnome session like this: % ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] [enter passwords etc] remote_machine % gnome-session The only thing that I've noticed with this setup is that it can actually hijack your current session. VNC would probably be the easiest, though. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Spam again
Sonia, http://www.akadia.com/services/postfix_uce.html Scroll to the Header and Body Checks section, although the whole thing is worth a read. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Linux-aus] Re: [SLUG] Gaming Miniconf Program Released! - Mystery Speaker Hint!
Tim, They work for a *commercial* game development company which heavily uses open source software in their premier project! It must be Bill Gates then... :P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
Carlo, If you're going for ADSL, I give Internode 5 starts for support, service and every other category you can think of. =P How about the Bad Customer Service Category? :P DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Programming language
Rick, There is always phpSurveyor which is a very powerful web based tool which builds many different types of questionnaires including multiple choice, how do you rate etc. It is fairly easy to use and can produce statistics. It is (obviously) php and mySql based - easy to set up as well. See http://www.phpsurveyor.org/ I can see why it is obviously PHP based, but why would it obviously use MySQL - it could use, for example, Postgresql... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wasted opportunity: students' portal
Howard, I don't think there is too much likelihood of getting M$ products out of schools when you consider the predatory prices that M$ charge education for licences. I think it's time to change the way we think of this concept. Microsoft know that education matters and that those who know how to use its products will recommend its products when they move into new IT jobs or become influential in organisations to make product recommendations. Therefore, Microsoft will license its products for free or little cost to educational institutions or educational bodies. Let's perform a substitute in the above statement: The Open Source Communities know that education matters and that those who know how to use its products will recommend its products when they move into new IT jobs or become influential in organisations to make product recommendations. Therefore, The Open Source Communities will license its products for free or little cost to educational institutions or educational bodies. If we're going to define a pricing structure as predatory if it costs nothing or is very low cost, then: Microsoft AND the Open Source Communities are both predatory in that respect. What we need to do is develop an additional paragraph that shows why Microsoft's strategy might be damaging. I'll start with: When the student recommends a Microsoft product, then there will be real licensing costs and these costs for many installations can be prohibitive. Let's perform the same substition: When the student recommends a product developed by The Open Source Communities, then there will be real licensing costs and these costs for many installations can be prohibitive. INVALID. You can download many open source solutions and use them for no licensing cost even for commercial uses. All solutions - open source or otherwise will have some form of costs involved (and these costs may not be measured in monetary terms). DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 686 || !686
Erik, Solaris needed that because Solaris' /proc/ file system contains mostly (all?) binary data. From what I can see, Solaris' /proc file system is a filesystem to describe PROCcesses. That it became useful to describe other things is history I don't quite know about...it's one of the differences between Linux and Solaris that orginally caught me out. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
Simon, [I hope you don't mind me addressing you informally] You'll need to wait until after the next election and the finalization of the T3 process before any government will have the balls to force real competition on the monopoly. Even then it's doubtful, going on past performance. Very, very doubtful; real competition might make Telstra appear to be losing money in the short term thus devaluing shares, thus annoying all the Aussie Battlers [oh PLEASE] who bought shares when the share's value drops. Also, if I were a Government I wouldn't want the country's largest, private telecommunications provider to be off-side during an election. Especially if I had no control over them... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
Jeff, The most annoying anti-spam method in the world. A sure-fire way to not get mail from anyone. If you get *no* e-mail, it follows that you don't get any *spam* e-mail as well... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
Adam, Any time a spam strategy is predictably imperfect, that is a specific type of spam gets through, you've essentially created a scenario in which you have a strong evolutionary selection towards that type of spam. And so the percentages will start to grow as more spammers use that successful technique. The question is: 1. Is spam evolutionary, that is does it evolve; or 2. Is it brought about by Intelligent Design... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Thunderbird, Slug and Spam
Hi There, It seems that no matter how many spam messages sent via slug I tag, they still get through. It seems that Thunderbird's bayesian filter considers all Slug sent mail legitimate primarily, I think, because most of it is. I'm looking for a solution that: 1. Will run on Open Solaris ON (Solaris Community Edition) 2. Preferably does not require me to configure an MTA 3. Is not spamassassin Is there some setting in Thunderbird other than just continually trying to train it that might help? DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird, Slug and Spam
Benno, I'm looking for a solution that: 1. Will run on Open Solaris ON (Solaris Community Edition) 2. Preferably does not require me to configure an MTA 3. Is not spamassassin I have had a lot of luck with spambayes + procmail. I pick up my mail from Adam Internet's POP service using Thunderbird's inbuilt ability to query pop servers. Unless I'm much mistaken, if I want to use procmail (I can't access a .procmailrc where the POP service is hosted), I'd need to: 1. Install an MTA such as Sendmail, Postfix or Qmail I'd prefer not to have to bother with an MTA. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird, Slug and Spam
Benno, I use fetchmail to retrieve popmail, which lets you use an abitrary MDA (procmail in my case). Is that a new feature? I'm sure it only used to work with real MTAs, that is ones that were mail servers speaking SMTP on a specified port... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Hard Drive Problem - Advice Pls
Scott et al, My PC dual boots XP and Kubuntu. While trying to reformat a 1 gb Memory Stick/Flash Drive under XP I somehow stuffed a SATA HD by apparently renaming it and formatting it, though as it didn't sit there forever formatting, I'm guessing that I just wiped the partition table somehow. When I boot Kubuntu I get the message:- The Superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. Run e2fsck with an alternative superblock:- e2fsck -b 8193 device If allyou did was wipe the partition table, you could try booting from a rescue cd that contains gnu parted, and try rescuing it. I have never used this, so I can't guarentee its success. If possible, you may want to dd the whole drive to a file on another drive. testdisk (apt-get install testdisk) has worked for me and others in the LinuxSA community as well... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for moderators!
Heh, Ahoy eager SLUG'ers! A large part of looking after SLUG's large array of mailing lists and dealing with spam and other nasties is moderating. Traditionally this has been a job for committee members, however, following the success of appointing an extra moderator for our jobs list, we've decided to open this exciting job to others. All that's required is about 5 minutes every day, two days, week, month even year depending on which list you volunteer for. And for this tiny investment of time, you help SLUG prevent month-old emails turning up on lists. Lists range from the tiny pearls list up to our 700-subscriber based SLUG list. So, if you're looking to help out SLUG and want to help keep our lists going, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] today with who you are and what list(s) you're interested in helping out with. Sorry to dampen things down but that is just the funniest description of list moderator I've ever seen. Are you a writer for Monty Python? DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Work For The Dole, Open-source Project: Flexible Bus Service
Doug, It is based around an open-source software pack that does all the routing, time scheduling. The algorithms would be similar to network traffic routing, and the software would need to track the location of the vehicles, so the routing can be changed dynamically. There would also be need of a module to calculate charges (probably for the point-to-point distance, even though the route may vary), and to handle the operator input. The networking to the buses would be with wireless nodes, This software development is why I would like to speak to people about the idea on Friday! (Especially as we may be able to generate some funding to help the development) The South Australian Government is planning to implement a similar project. The trials have costed in the hundreds of thousands (if not past a million) and are expected to get more. The kickback, of course, is a better public transport system. What makes you think that such a system won't cost that much in Sydney? DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] finding Linux professionals
Ben, How do I go about finding people to do the work? Likely there's a website to set up, and perhaps e-commerce, and likely a database backing it all up. You can post a message on Linux Australia's job website: http://www.linux.org.au/jobs/ ...and hassle the OSIA guys: http://www.osia.net.au/ ...who are setting something like this up. DSL -- Open Source Business Network SA http://osbn.inetd.com.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.
Eddie After first boot settings entered for eth0 where lost. Sorted all this out and all works fine after running ifup eth0, but this interface isn't started at boot. So... How does Debian 3.0 r2 normally start network interfaces at bootup? In /etc/network/interfaces. You might want to: apt-get install etherconf dpkg-reconfigure etherconf ...which is a nice textual graphic tool to do it. DSL -- Open Source Business Network SA http://osbn.inetd.com.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.
Eddie, After first boot settings entered for eth0 where lost. Sorted all this out and all works fine after running ifup eth0, but this interface isn't started at boot. So... How does Debian 3.0 r2 normally start network interfaces at bootup? In /etc/network/interfaces. Ummm... yeh... I've edited this apropriately, so when I bring up the interface manually it works ok... But how does Debian start the interfaces at boot, so I don't have to running ifup eth0, everytime I boot? Define appropriately... Make sure that network in /etc/rc2.d/ is actually starting. DSL -- Open Source Business Network SA http://osbn.inetd.com.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.
Eddie, Define appropriately... Definition = Copied from a latop on the same network, except with different IP :-) # /etc/network/interfaces -- blah blah # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The First NIC - Created by me manually, coz the install has NFI iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 Looks right. Have you ever tried etherconf: apt-cache show etherconf Make sure that network in /etc/rc2.d/ is actually starting. Did this (I think) by creating the sym' link; S40networking - ../init.d/networking Hope this is right... got this frm finding same in rcS.d That sounds about right, however, it might have been better to do: update-rc.d networking defaults 5 DSL -- Open Source Business Network SA http://osbn.inetd.com.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian au mirror
Ken, On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 11:46, Alexander Samad wrote: I have apt-proxy setup at home, I use ftp.au.debian.org and it seems to be a rather old sync. debian unstable on these has not updated for a long time. ftp.au.debian.org ..has been playing silly for quite a while. I can't convince apt-proxy to work with them at all (I get gzip ended expectedly on stdin or some such thing). DSL -- http://educationalinux.adam.com.au/ EducationaLinux 2004 is going to rock! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Programming Book, for Open Source.
Eddie, From: Gottfried Szing [EMAIL PROTECTED] my suggestion to start programming and to contribute: use your apps as usuall and if you have an idea to improve an app (eg missing feature or problem which can be tracked down), feel free to change/enhance the code and send a patch. this will help u to get a feeling how the community works. That's my plan, but I'm not getting very far with it. Thanks for the long friendly debate people, but I'm still none the wiser. Which lang' is used most in open source Linux application projects, is it C or C++? The language you learn doesn't really matter. Programming is more an art than a science; getting the core concepts and understanding is most important. Pick a language that feels right for you. Many people find Java a good teaching language. DSL -- http://educationalinux.adam.com.au/ EducationaLinux 2004 is going to rock! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [Linux-aus] GNOME Australia!
Jeff, See the web page for what they'll be talking about and to keep up to date with the crazy GNOME.conf.au action! Please forward this on to your LUG list if you feel it's appropriate. If it's not, tell me, and I can write it in Swahili or something. I want a Nigerian translation. I think it will be valuable because these Nigerians obviously have so much money to give away that they can come to the conference ;-) Good work. I'm sorting out some small details with EducationaLinux 2004 but will be announcing speakers very soon now. DSL http://educationalinux.adam.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [Linux-aus] GNOME Australia!
Heh, We're hoping to do some combo talks for some things, like python/gnome for James's talk and stuff like that. If we can pull it off. Might be worth trying this year and figuring out the problems so we can do it better next year. You lot, EducationaLinux is in there too. Surely GNOME must be doing something to cater for the educational market - it's where your newest users could come from? can linux and related things ever run out of cool? Don't go there man, we're on a roll! LOL Well upon my arrival, everything becomes *HOT* ;-P Seriously, though, I am glad I'm the organiser of one of the mini-confs otherwise I wouldn't be able to work out which mini-conf to go to. The main conf which has expanded to 4 streams already is bad enough. DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [ALLIES] Statement of Attainment in Linux
Geoffrey, Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL Yes; one's health and safety is paramount. o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. You should allow for an easy prior recognition here. I might want to do the course (just to get a piece of paper) and I'd be mightily annoyed if I had to learn how to use the GUI. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. Ok. What prerequisites do the students/course takers/whatever their politically correct name is these days have? That is to say, can you assume that they'll understand: The samba server broadcasts on the 192.168.168.0/26 network In general it sounds good. The course materials...will they be free or do you intend to sell them? (i.e. can I get a copy of them). DSL -- Ce soir je vais coucher avec un chouchou! Oh la la! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
