Re: [SLUG] cvs and subversion
I think you have it wrong way around -- the file that you modify and commit goes to 1.1 -- but you should be doing a cvs update before you rebuild, which will pick up the other developer's commits. svn uses repository versions not file versions, so yo will get different results in your $Header$s. For almost all users, svn will be a better solution. On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 12:05 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 12 March 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since subversion does renames and file moves much better that cvs I think its actually a better tool for this job than cvs. However itsI still don't think its the right tool. No, that's still different not better. Tools like CVS and Subversion were designed for doing revision control on software projects. In normal software projects it is not uncommon to move files from one directory to another or to rename a file so the name better reflects the files purpose. When people do this they usually want to be able to track changes across the rename or directory move. If it was better then it would be better for everyone. But it is better for the vast majority of software projects where the ability to rename or move files is desirable (ie outside the loopy world of MIL specs). In addition subversion has other advantages over CVS such atomic commits [0]. It's not better for me, and it isn't better for the original poster (James). It looks like the needs of you two are different from that of the vast majority of software developers. Maybe. Consider: (This is true!) Under subversion I have a project with (say) 3 files. Developer B checks out those files. A changes file1 and commits it B changes file2 and commits it A updates his sources and builds a rom B update his sources and builds a rom Both roms contain the same code, BUT their whatstrings are NOT the same stuff like this $Header: /home/cvs/olive-201/olive-comms.c,v 1.9 2005/05/05 10:35:26 jam Exp $; The roms print different IDs though they are the same (from memory, might not be accurate, but the gist is accurate, and easy to test for anyone using subversion; put $Header:$ in your files and stand back) A file 1: 1.0 file 2: 1.1 file 3: 1.0 B file 1: 1.1 file 2: 1.0 file 3: 1.0 And yes i did RFM and it did explain the error as a feature Both should have file 1: 1.1 file 2: 1.1 file 3: 1.0 That is pretty pretty important to do correctly! so if subversion is ideal for the vast majority of developers it's still not a real CVS James -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
I haven't had any problems with iinet myself. They don't seem to mind Linux. But then I have an Ethernet modem; also I have dual boot XP/FC, so I just get their technical support to fix the XP side, and then translate to FC. On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 09:22 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 25 February 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rajnish, Dunno about ISOs. Have you checked TPGs standard ADSL deals? My current one is $50 per month, 1.5Mb down (I get an average of 1.2) and 20G per month. I'm not sure if they've discontinued the deal to new ADSL members...(?) www.Whirlpool.net.au is a good place to check out what is available. I have a friend with iinet and he's very happy. TPG - Linux. I've stopped mentioning it to them :):) It just creates a problem where they think it's me and not them. I've had very few problems in the last four/five years or so and all but one was at their end... which they fixed. iinet are ultra arrogant, do it our way or Piss Off (literal exact words) They were making a foray 'overeast', don't know ... http://powerdsl.com.au For $59/month: 1.5M Fixed IP No restriction on server-services 20 or 30G linux friendly me 3 others I've pointed at them very happy James -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Camcorder?
James, the problem is wit the connect with USB / get the files stage... it doesn't connect. On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 09:45 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 January 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to make a camcorder connect to Linux? Specifically, * Panasonic GS150 * FC4 on Intel * USB2 connection * works fine on MS Windows XP * this is about ripping the video tape (DV format) to disk * not about copying any still piccies from the memory card * not about using it as a webcam -- Regards, Martin Short Answer: connect via usb get the files process edit copy to dvd etc dvdauthor is your friend here Long Answer mail me James -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Camcorder?
Does anyone know how to make a camcorder connect to Linux? Specifically, * Panasonic GS150 * FC4 on Intel * USB2 connection * works fine on MS Windows XP * this is about ripping the video tape (DV format) to disk * not about copying any still piccies from the memory card * not about using it as a webcam -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Camcorder?
The current box doesn't have any firewire ports; I'll try with a different box next week. The camcorder has a firewire port. On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 22:43 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: Don't know about USB, but if you can connect it using firewire it's just a matter of loading the ieee1394 + raw1394 modules (with correct permissions on /dev/raw1394 for your user) and using kino or dvgrab (both should be in most distributions). -C. On 1/20/06, Martin Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to make a camcorder connect to Linux? Specifically, * Panasonic GS150 * FC4 on Intel * USB2 connection * works fine on MS Windows XP * this is about ripping the video tape (DV format) to disk * not about copying any still piccies from the memory card * not about using it as a webcam -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: iim-xbe freezing firefox?
You are right -- it's part of the internationalisation support. I installed it deliberately as I wanted to input Chinese characters. On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 18:32 +1000, Lindsay Holmwood wrote: I did a bit of quick research on google, and hopefully some of the following will help you. I'm pretty sure that iim-xbe part of the iiimf group of packages that provide an internationalization input method framework. I'm guessing that you might have done an 'Install everything' install of FC4, and as such you've been given all the iiimf packages. For a possible fix, i'd suggest you remove the iiimf packages on your system, restart X, and see if you get the same problem. An 'rpm -qa |grep iiimf' will turn up any iiimf packages on your system. On the other hand you might want i18n input, so this won't help you all that much at all. :-) If anything, it might be more of a fedora bug than a firefox one, so you might want to check on the fedora bug tracker. Best of luck, Lindsay Martin Ellison wrote: As discussed at the meeting, I have raised this on bugzilla.mozilla.org: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310645 On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 19:04 +1000, Martin Ellison wrote: For some reason a process called iim-xbe is freezing firefox. Does anyone know why, how, or how to fix it? I find that after booting firefox is ok for several seconds and then freezes and goes 'not responding'. If I get into the system monitor and kill this iim-xbe process before this happens, firefox is fine. System is FC4 at current patch levels (yum update). Everything was fine under FC3 but this behaviour started when I upgraded to FC4 and has persisted. uname -a Linux glerk 2.6.12-1.1456_FC4 #1 Thu Sep 22 02:11:40 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: iim-xbe freezing firefox?
As discussed at the meeting, I have raised this on bugzilla.mozilla.org: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310645 On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 19:04 +1000, Martin Ellison wrote: For some reason a process called iim-xbe is freezing firefox. Does anyone know why, how, or how to fix it? I find that after booting firefox is ok for several seconds and then freezes and goes 'not responding'. If I get into the system monitor and kill this iim-xbe process before this happens, firefox is fine. System is FC4 at current patch levels (yum update). Everything was fine under FC3 but this behaviour started when I upgraded to FC4 and has persisted. uname -a Linux glerk 2.6.12-1.1456_FC4 #1 Thu Sep 22 02:11:40 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] iim-xbe freezing firefox?
For some reason a process called iim-xbe is freezing firefox. Does anyone know why, how, or how to fix it? I find that after booting firefox is ok for several seconds and then freezes and goes 'not responding'. If I get into the system monitor and kill this iim-xbe process before this happens, firefox is fine. System is FC4 at current patch levels (yum update). Everything was fine under FC3 but this behaviour started when I upgraded to FC4 and has persisted. uname -a Linux glerk 2.6.12-1.1456_FC4 #1 Thu Sep 22 02:11:40 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] W*b h*sting?
Can anyone recommend a good cheap w*b h*sting service? I just need to run Bloxcom (a CGI Perl script) so nothing fancy. There seem to be a few $5-10/month services out there; anyone with good experiences? [I originally sent this to slug-chat but it never appeared. Also, it seems that W-b h-sting' is a rude word and blocked by yje mail robot.] -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George banking (again...)
At the moment, it is getting me to the point of displaying the BPAY window, but then refusing to accept any transaction details. Very frustrating (and rather strange -- what on earth is going wrong? it seems to do mouse but not keyboard???). I'm on Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0- b64 (and FF1.0.1 and FC3). On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 16:06 +1100, Sonia Hamilton wrote: YASGQ (Yet Another St George Question): I can't get St George internet banking going, has anyone got this working? Pointers on how to do it? I've searched the slug archives, lot's of (justified) kvetching but I couldn't find a solution. I've looked at [1], installed prefbar [2], tried every agent string. I'm running Ubuntu Warty, I've got SunJava 1.5 installed. I've written to STG, I get the usual response... blah, blah supported browsers, blah IE blah :-) [1] http://puzzling.org/computing/help/banking [2] http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ -- Sonia Hamilton . Environment Minister Ian Campbell stood by Australia's ambitious target of 0% participation in the Kyoto protocol, and said the government would continue its efforts to reduce its environmental credibility to pre-1990 levels -- The Chaser. -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~martin.ellison Yahoo (IM) martin_ellison2005 MSN (IM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AFR article
See http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/27/innovation-and- the-internet/ On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 16:18 +1100, Richard Neal wrote: no scanner sorry.. also the article is'nt on the AFR website either.. I'll keep a copy see if i can find someone to scan it.. On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 15:56, Dean Hamstead wrote: care to scan it? Regards Richard Neal __ Kryten Cat: Hey, I got it! We laser our way through!? Kryten: Ah, an excellent suggestion, Sir, with just two minor drawbacks. One, we don't have a power source for the lasers, and two, we don't have any lasers. - Cat and Kryten, White Hole ( Red Dwarf ) __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wiki choice
yes UseModWiki works for me. On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 15:05 +0100, Gottfried Szing wrote: hi I am a big fan of moin, and it does all of these. It is simple, easy to hack on, has a good security record, and generally rocks. MediaWiki is also a good choice. I just install moin and the README has a task that says to warn when upgrading because the wiki does not always work properly when upgraded. This is a serious concern, data preservation is all important. to keep the discussion on-topic: has someone tried to use one of the wikis listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UseModWiki cya signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux/Mozilla / internet banking
That worked thanks. On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 21:42, John Clarke wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 08:19:45 +1000, Martin Ellison wrote: St George Bank appears to no longer accept Mozilla on Linux. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/02/msg00523.html -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~martin.ellison signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux/Mozilla / internet banking
St George Bank appears to no longer accept Mozilla on Linux. 1. any experience? (confirmation, work-arounds) 2. alternatives? -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~martin.ellison signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Perl configured, but Apt tells me it's not.
don't you make sure PERL5LIB includes /usr/perl5? On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 18:54, Adam Bogacki wrote: Hi, I'm running in console mode, with 'apt-get update' Mutt functional, after mucking up a file transfer between partitions. 'Tux:~# apt-get install -f -u dist-upgrade --fix-broken' aborted with Debconf: Perl may be unconfigured. Can't locate strict.pm in @INC ... I managed to get Lynx working by moving a missing file into its correct place and downloaded and configured Perl 5.8.0 from www.cpan.org following the instructions in /home. The only thing I did not do was 'make distclean' 'make realclean' as I had not built Perl before. However, when I now try 'Tux:~# apt-get install -f -u dist-upgrade --fix-broken' I get Perl may be unconfigured, can't locate Debconf/Log.pm in @INC (@INC contains /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.0). ... but I find ./usr/perl5/Debconf/Log.pm where I inspected it via vi ! How do I get 'Tux:~# apt-get install -f -u dist-upgrade --fix-broken' to work in order to get the system working again ? I've run out of ideas at this point. Adam Bogacki Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~martin.ellison -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Good place to get RH9 in CBD or North Sydney
The Lankum guy lives up near Hornsby (http://www.lankum.com). On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 10:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good place to get RedHat 9 from in the CBD or North Sydney? -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~martin.ellison ) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] has anyone had joy installing a dicksmith intel pcimodem on linux?
well it felt good when I stopped trying to make it work and bought myself an external modem. does that count as joy? On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 18:35, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: I was looking to purchase what I think is the same modem, it had a little picture of tux on the packaging and said it was Linux compatable. After a little googling I decided that it was probably not worth risking the $50 purchase price. I think I have also seen a (negative?) post about this modem a little while ago on slug. Though if anyone has got it working with minimal fuss I would also be interested in hearing about it. Brad On 15 Jul 2003 18:22:06 +1000, Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just given an internal dick smith modem. The modem has an intel chipset and apparently runs on linux but my mandrake system doesn't recognise it. At the moment I am just running makedev /dev can anyone help? thanks Kevin -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- Regards, Martin mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~martin.ellison signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Dick Smith internal modem: no carrier, notechnical support
OK, I've done some more investigating. The modem is an Intel 536EP which used to be (I think) Conexant. It is a 'Host Assisted Modem' (HaM). I installed the standard Intel drivers: they came on a CD with the hardware. There is a free driver (open source) and a proprietary driver (binary only). I compiled the source and installed both drivers. I've checked all the diagnostic information output under XP and typed the same commands under Redhat, with basically the same results. In particualr, AT+GCI? gives 09 in both cases (i.e. the modem knows it is in Australia). The results from AT+GCI=? were shorter, perhaps because the Linux driver is a later version than the XP driver. I've also taken the commands from the XP modem log and typed them into minicom. Everything is OK until I do ATDT and then under XP I connect and under Redhat I get NO CARRIER I think it's going back at the weekend. Even if there is some way I can get it working in theory, I don't have the time to find out in practice. Regards, Martin On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what type of modem it is? Is it a connexant? Check out `cat /proc/pci` and also under windows... Often internal modems need special drivers to function under Linux. Martin Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've now tried all sorts of combinations to no avail X1, X2, X3. X4, all do not work. Under XP, I don't need anything -- using Hyperterminal I just say ATDT number and I get my ISP's login prompt. Undex Linux, I say exactly the same thing to minicom, and I get NO CARRIER. Very strange. =I've bought myself a Dick Smith internal modem, which they =claim works with Linux (there's a little Tux on the packaging). = =It works fine with XP. = =I've installed the Linux driver that comes with the modem. =This talks to the modem, but all it comes up with is NO CARRIER. Try slipping an X3 into the init string (or the dial string, doesn't really matter which. That tells the modem to not wait for a carrier. X4 will do a blind dial, which you don't want, as X3 waits for about 1 second before dialing. X0 is no dial without carrier and X1 I forget. me previously: X3 doesn't make any difference. Still NO CARRIER. I'm not sure if it is dialling properly. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem
MySQL permissions depend on which box you are coming from. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have one set of permissions and [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have different permissions (or none). You can adjust the permissions using the PERMIT statement. Regards, Martin On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 10:34, Adam W wrote: Hi All, I am having a few problems with mySQL. Why would it be doing this: * I can login locally on the mySQL box using $mysql -uadamw -p * I try and do this through mySQL control center running on windows machine and it gives me: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES) * I try this on a linux (not the server) box using $mysql -uadamw -p and it lets me access it. * Last night I could access mySQL via the control center - but after a reboot it now refuses. Though last night it allowwed me after some changes to hosts.allow, hosts.deny (don't know if that is relevant - isnt this just xinetd? I'm not running mySQL through xinetd) Of course I have set the users table correctly - user adamw is accepted from all hosts. Can anyone pick the error?? Cheers Adam W. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem
Can you get in from the win box using the mysql command line client? I suppose there must be one ffor windows. Martin On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 21:01, Adam W wrote: MySQL permissions depend on which box you are coming from. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have one set of permissions and [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have different permissions (or none). You can adjust the permissions using the PERMIT statement. I understand that - but I have let my username be accessed from all hosts. And this works from my linux client box, but not my windows client box... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Dick Smith internal modem: no carrier, no technicalsupport
I've now tried all sorts of combinations to no avail X1, X2, X3. X4, all do not work. Under XP, I don't need anything -- using Hyperterminal I just say ATDT number and I get my ISP's login prompt. Undex Linux, I say exactly the same thing to minicom, and I get NO CARRIER. Very strange. Regards, Martin =I've bought myself a Dick Smith internal modem, which they =claim works with Linux (there's a little Tux on the packaging). = =It works fine with XP. = =I've installed the Linux driver that comes with the modem. =This talks to the modem, but all it comes up with is NO CARRIER. Try slipping an X3 into the init string (or the dial string, doesn't really matter which. That tells the modem to not wait for a carrier. X4 will do a blind dial, which you don't want, as X3 waits for about 1 second before dialing. X0 is no dial without carrier and X1 I forget. me previously: X3 doesn't make any difference. Still NO CARRIER. I'm not sure if it is dialling properly. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Dick Smith internal modem: no carrier, no technical support
I've bought myself a Dick Smith internal modem, which they claim works with Linux (there's a little Tux on the packaging). It works fine with XP. I've installed the Linux driver that comes with the modem. This talks to the modem, but all it comes up with is NO CARRIER. Dick Smith technical support refuse to help, Thanks for that, perhaps I should have made myself clearer.We do not provide any technical support for Linux. Has anyone got this thing to work? The model number is XH3472, with an Intel chipset. Or should I just send it back and get a refund? (And does anyone know an internal modem I can buy in Sydney that *does* work with Redhat 8?) Regards, Martin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
