[SLUG] Python.
Andrew Bennetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/07/01 23:55:56 It's not a very interesting script, but I thought the list could do with some variety from the usual perl gunk ;) On a related note, it appears upcoming Python releases will be GPL compatible again. Good news for Debian / License zealots. http://python.org/2.0.1/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Quick Debian Network Q.
Making a first foray into Debian networking yesterday I surprised myself by getting things working! modprobe eth0 ifup eth0 then my two route add blah blah commands one default to the Internet and one for my little LAN (if you can call 2 machines a LAN!). OK, I know how to get the module and interface loaded at boot time, but where in debian does one stick the two route command so they come up at boot. /etc/init.d/local ?? Is there an equivalent for Debian, or is it a matter of writing your own S K scripts in the appropriate /rc.? directory The debian guide mentions /etc/init.d/network but I have /etc/init.d/networking (Debian Sid BTW) Can I copy the /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network file into /etc/init.d and with suitable editing have the routing come up at boot time? jdub made mention of the /etc/network/interfaces file in the slug archives, and how this can set the default route, is this the appropriate place for my 'private' route aswell?? thanks all -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dangling symlink ?
Adam, I think Matt hit it on the head, Debian seems not to have handled the upgrade to a 'modular' xserver too well. Anyway, I scoured around my box last night and heres a few notes to help you understand what should be happening. steved@Moria:~$dpkg --list xlib6g == ii xlib6g 4.0.2-7 pseudopackage providing X libraries I run a slightly older version of X. steved@Moria:~$ ls -la /etc/X11/X rwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Mar 3 00:36 /etc/X11/X - /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 So /etc/X11/X is a symlink to /usr/bin/X11/XFre86 steved@Moria:~$ ls -la /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1491868 Feb 22 16:13 /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 And /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 is the xserver, and it's a real file (1.4 meg) So what package has provided that file? steved@Moria:~$ dpkg --search /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 dpkg: /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 not found. WHAT? Not found? I was just looking at it! Lets try a generic search for just XFree86 steved@Moria:~$ dpkg --search XFree86 xserver-xfree86: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 xfree86-common: /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/XFree86-FAQ.html xserver-xfree86: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/XFree86.1x.gz xfree86-common: /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/XFree86-FAQ.text.gz xdm: /etc/X11/xdm/pixmaps/XFree86.xpm xdm: /etc/X11/xdm/pixmaps/XFree86bw.xpm The first one is the one we are looking for. Package 'xserver-xfree86' has provided /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86, but this is a different spot to /usr/bin/X11Xfree86, and here's the tricky part. steved@Moria:~$ ls -la /usr/bin/X11 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 Mar 1 23:01 /usr/bin/X11 - ../X11R6/bin /usr/bin/X11 is what I call a 'directory symlink' to the /usr/X11R6/bin directory. i.e /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 is the same file as /usr/bin/X11Xfree86 Anytime you ask for something in the /usr/biun/X11 directory it points you straight at the /usr/X11R6/bin directory. steved@Moria:~$ cat /etc/debian_version testing/unstable And you can check if the Xfree86 version 4 server is installed by: steved@Moria:~$ dpkg --status xserver-xfree86 Package: xserver-xfree86 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 11300 Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: xfree86 Version: 4.0.2-7 Replaces: xserver-common ( 4.0), libxfont-xtt ( 1:1.3.0.1-13) Provides: xserver Depends: xserver-common ( 4.0), debconf (= 0.2.26), libc6 (= 2.2.1), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3) Suggests: mdetect, read-edid Description: the XFree86 X server The XFree86 X server is an X server for several architectures and operating systems; its architecture was completely redesigned for the 4.0 release, and features a loadable module system in which required modules are loaded on demand by a single server binary as opposed to the video card-specific X servers of the 3.x release. . The XFree86 server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors, and supersedes most version 3.x XFree86 X servers. See http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.1/Status.html for information on its support for your particular hardware. . If the mdetect and read-edid packages are present, the debconf scripts in this package will use them to attempt automatic configuration of your mouse and monitor. Notice the Status: line near the top... Anyway, my notes from that time indicate that I fixed it all by: apt-get install task-x-window-system I was also missing files like 'startx' and 'deXter' which is the debian Xwindow config utility.. Hope that all helps Steve -- Your password must be at least 18770 characters and cannot repeat any of your previous 30689 passwords. Type a password that meets these requirements in both text boxes. - Windows 2000 attempts security bah! http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q276/3/04.ASP -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Radical Solutions ...
Adam, I think I had similar problems when I went from debian stable to debian unstable. My solution was to 'apt-get install x-window-system' or something similar (I'll have a look at my notes tonight if you want). Doing this a couple of times, and doing a 'dselect --configure-pending' (or something similar, working off the top of my head here) reinstalled and reconfigured the x window setup... A quick explanation is something like this (and DO NOT take this as gospel, once agin, off the top of my head) startx sets things up and runs xinit xinit tries to execute /etc/X11/X which is just a symlink (pointer) to a real executable Xserver, or it may be another symlink step, i.e from /usr/X11/bin/XFree86 to /usr/X11/bin/Xfree_SVGA or something. I can't remember the Debian setup, but it was a pretty logical way of having a generic symlink pointing to the required specific Xserver. And don't worry about wether its X11 or X11R6. R6 means Release 6 of the X11 windowing protocol specification, everyone I know runs R6. Just so long as they are consistent, which if you have a newly setup Debian system, then they should be. If you have mixed in packages from non- Debian sources (Tempted by a magazine CD, I've done it, and rebuilt afterwards) then things may have been screwed by that. HTH Steve -- Your password must be at least 18770 characters and cannot repeat any of your previous 30689 passwords. Type a password that meets these requirements in both text boxes. - Windows 2000 attempts security bah! http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q276/3/04.ASP -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [OT] web hosting?
If you don't mind dealing with the US, then I've found linuxwebhost.com to be pretty good, and cheap. $9.95 US p/month for 50M and about 3.5 gig bandwidth. and everything you asked for: cgi-bin / FP extension / 50 email / video / etc etc and it runs Linux, so if you want to get an SSH account setup you can get into the site/server that way aswell. Alex Salmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/06/01 19:42:34 hi all on the subject or isp's ;-) I help manage and run a website for a small organiseation. Recently our isp went under ;-( and we are left with a site and a domain name (.org.au) we need a new hosting and im wondering if any or u know any good providers that are well good. our site was originaly hosted in SA does it make a diffrence if we want to host in syd?? we need about 20mb or storge space (at least) at least one e-mail 300-500mb bandwidth a month. FP ext (not for me i sware ;-)) stastics etc.. if possible we would like more space (duh) more e-mails (duh) cgi mabey some video streaming etc. we have heard some good points about http://www.webcentral.com.au/ and they give us what we want for about 450-600 per year. who else is good and cheap (or dont thay come hand in hand) TIA alex ghoti -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 G!/MU/E d-- s: a---@ C++ U+++ P+ L++ E--- W++ N+@ o K- w-- O-- M- V- PS PE+ Y+ PGP+@ t 5? X- R+ tv b+ DI+++ D+++ G+@ e* h! rz? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] And the rest of SID? Was:kdelibs in sid currently broken,
What's the rest of sid like right now? Anyone know of any other packages causing havoc or is tonight an ok time to 'dist-upgrade' without breaking things. How do other Debianites keep on top of what packages are being badly behaved in the testing and unstable branches, apart from tracking debian-user. I thought DebianPlanet might have a page where people could flag possible update problems, but I haven't found one yet thanks all Steve --- Your password must be at least 18770 characters and cannot repeat any of your previous 30689 passwords. Type a password that meets these requirements in both text boxes. - Windows 2000 attempts security bah! http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q276/3/04.ASP -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Calling regex champions.
OK, well anyone with a better idea than me. Having moved all my mp3s, I need to update my XMMS playlists, BUT there are a couple which have been updated already. So, I want to match /usr/local/mp3/whatever BUT NOT /usr/local/mp3/mp3/whatever Yes, I've moved them all from /usr/local/mp3 to /usr/local/mp3/mp3 so I need to add that extra directory into the path in all the playlist files. thanks all Steve --- Your password must be at least 18770 characters and cannot repeat any of your previous 30689 passwords. Type a password that meets these requirements in both text boxes. - Windows 2000 attempts security bah! http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q276/3/04.ASP -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Calling all Regex champions
I'm assuming that other (sub)playlists don't refer back to this Master one for the file's actual location, since they all seem to have a reference to the file anyway. Half of the idea was this was a project to cut my teeth on with Python, and since I'm new to regex's as well, I thought I'd lighten my load by getting someone else to provide one. Run script to update/fix my 20-30 different playlists, and learn some more Python... thanks though, with that and Jeffs tip its a good way to keep the Master file current. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/06/01 11:57:50 XMMS uses a plain text file in ~/.xmms/xmms.m3u to store the master playlist. You can get the list of files into it by using find(1), e.g.: find /usr/local/mp3 ! -name '/usr/local/mp3/mp3/*' -print ~/.xmms/xmms.m3u -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Building a house of cards.
I know there's a few Mac evangelists hanging around here, so are any of you using one of the new iMac type USB keyboards on PC/Intel hardware under Linux. Googling has revealed that it works, (both Linux and Win98) but I'm hoping someone has direct knowledge (Craige?). Tips for key modmaps, XFree setup and the like. RTFM pointers, URL's, whatever. TIA Steve --- Your password must be at least 18770 characters and cannot repeat any of your previous 30689 passwords. Type a password that meets these requirements in both text boxes. - Windows 2000 attempts security bah! http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q276/3/04.ASP -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?
Adam, I think something needs to be cleared up. Tomsrtbt is a samll Linux distribution which will run off a floppy. If you get this you can start linux on the floppy, then mount your RedHat partition, but you will be running TOMSRTBT, not Redhat. From the sounds off things after that I would change my default runlevel in RedHat so that it doesn't try to give you a graphical login. This is in /etc/innitab. Maybe then you will be able to get into the machine and start figuring out what went wrong. It sounds like your user my have Star Office set to restart whenever you login. I'm not real sure how you would solve this from a command line. A rather drastic manuever might be something like deleting ~/.gnome (or kde). For the sake of learning a lot about the inner workings of your distro, it's good to do things like all the above, even if you intend trashing the drive. Thankfully if you get in with a tomsrtbt, you can mount the drive partition and copy all your data/downloads off to another partition All definate good reasons for knowing your way around the CLI. HTH Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Compiled new kernel, now oddball sound...
David, Depending on which distro you ar using, check that the user is included in the 'audio' group. The sound card will only be available to those people who have permission to access it, and it sounds like your user may not have permission. On Debian check out 'addgroup' Other distro's might use 'groupadd' (Or is it the other way around??) Otherwise if you use Linux conf check your users gropu memberships there. Steve "David Grubb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/04/01 11:26:15 Hi all, Compiled a new kernel during the week (2.2.19) - even getting my USB keyboard and mouse working (hey, for me that is an achievement ;) Everything is working fine, except for the sound. The es1371 module is being loaded on startup, and works fine when I log in as root, but I can't seem to get sound working for any other user (there are two user accounts, and its only used as a workstation - no internet connection). Starting xmms while logged in as a user returns an error along the lines of "Check soundcard is configured properly, etc" - but there are no problems with this as root. Any ideas what could be causing this? Cheers Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] grub boot loader
You would have to re-write the boot sectors of your hard drive. If you intend to keep loading Linux, try another bootloader like Chos or Lilo. Loading another boot loading and configuring it will usually prompt you to rewrite your boot sectors. If you don't and the hard drive will only be used to load Windows, get into a pure DOS environment (i.e windows not running!) and try "fdisk /mbr" Beware, althought this almost always works, it can do Bad Things(tm). Keep those boot floppies (Linux and Windows) handy. Steve "vladimir rakic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/04/01 17:20:10 Hello, How do you remove grub from the system ? vlad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] SMTP servers??
I was looking at setting up a small mail / web domain on linuxwebhost.com, with a webmail interface to some POP mail boxes, but they don't offer SMTP outgoing servers. I'd like both POP and webmail send/retrieve access to these boxes. Obviously dialup POP access is ok, but sending from the web mail interface?? So does anyone know of either a) some sort of free SMTP server, I know these would be open to abuse, but couldn't you get a free one which would accept from certain domains/IP address. The plan with Linuxwebhost.com offers a real static IP. b) a comparable host to linuxwebhost.com i.e offers cheap domain registration and POP boxes and some hosting. And either a webmail interface, or ability to put up a site with one I get off freshmeat? Move this over to slug-chat if appropriate. thanks all Steve 'My Doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes' Ford Prefect - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Can't compile 2.4.2 kernel - where is gas?
I'm running 2.4.0 (not test or pre anything I belive) on a VIA MVP3 motherboard with DMA turned on and haven't noticed any problems... Except the one mentioned last week about connecting a UDMA 66 drive to a UDMA 33 controller. Stephen Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/03/01 18:39:47 I think the problem with this chipset was with IDE DMA - people we seeing filesystem corruption with DMA turned on. Don't :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting up printer and modem on Mandrake Linux 7.2
Hi Vladimir, Your printer is probably somewhere like /dev/usbprinter or /dev/usbprinter0Browse through your /dev directory something might show up, as I'm not sure exactly where Mandrake puts it. I set my usb printer (and scanner) up from scratch, (but not fully tested yet), so if you keep having trouble I'll send you the instructions I got. As far as your modem, are you sure it's not a software based Winmodem?? Somewhere in HardDrake there is a modem setup Wizard, find your modem on that list, and try set it up. If it complains about the Modem being a software modem, you have a problem. Get your modem name and model and search for this ( and Winmodems) at www.google.com/linux or go to http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html and search for your modem. Enjoy! Steve D. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] XFREE 4 Modules
When I initially installed XF4.0.2 I set it up with Xserver --configure (from memory), and got a whole heap of modules loading in the XF86Config. Then I got a new expensive screen so I thought I'd do it properly with xf86config, but this left out a heap of these modules, and so I forced it to load glx and GLcore, but can anyone tell me what any of the following modules do?? extmod dbe ddc (Monitor identification??) xie pex5 record freetype (Truetype??) speedo I know dri is direct rendering, but from what I understand, it's not compatible with the 2.4.0 dri structure. True? Riva TNT2 w/ Nividia Kernel drivers FWIW. ta muchly Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Ripping files out of an RPM
The Eterm RPM that comes with Mandrake has a bunch of nice tiles and backgrounds, which my Debian system sadly lacks... so is it possible to rip individual or selected files out of an RPM and then manually shuffle them to the correct directory?? If so, how would one go about it? thanks Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] I broke my SID.
After finally getting all the packages downloaded to my machine, I did the actual 'dist-upgrade', a script of which is posted here: http://gonzo_united.tripod.com/sid.html (approx 200K) I tried to clean up the script output as much as possible, although I left some of the 'line noise' around the X setup so you could see what extent of X setup ran... During the process, I did apt-get -f -u dist-upgrade about 4 times before it managed to run all the way through. Along the way I had a few errors similar to this: (in cleanup) Can't call method "close" on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/ConfModule.pm line 301 during global destruction. (in cleanup) Can't call method "DESTROY" on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Question.pm line 151 during global destruction. I'd already upgraded to perl-5.6-19, but put of the upgrade was also getting perl-5.6-20. Anyway, X is now stuffed. Debconf said it was saving the current xfree3.3.xx config, and writing a new one, but the was no evidence of this under /etc/X11/ I have no startx or xf86cfg, although I do have Xf86config-v3, but it appears the proper xserver (4.0.2) is there, well /usr/doc/xserver-common/ is for 4.0.2 Of the packages on hold, I'd put the following ones on hold to reduce the amount I was downloading .. anacron bsdgames gnome-utils koules leafnode python-bobopos python-elisp python-examples python-kjbuckets python-pygresql sabre-common task-games wmaker xgalaga xnest xsabre xscavenger, leaving apt system holds on lilo and console-data. I haven't noticed any other probs, but then I haven't played too much with it, sooo can anyone give me any pointers on how to get my nice shiny Sid box running X?? Direct replies would be appreciated, I'm on digest... many thanks Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...
I sucked down Sid the other night, and along the way one file failed to download, I was using 'apt-get -d' so I could monitor the update later. So I grabbed this file, and a couple of others on a 'doze box at work and put them on a floppy, with the intention of using 'apt-cache add'. But when I came to do this I got.. E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room E:Problem with SelectFile This seems (to me!) to imply some kind of lack of memory (MMap??) So I made sure nothing much was running and tried again, but every subsequent apt-cache add came up with.. E:The package cache file is corrupted. Which made me think the .deb was corrupted via Windows stoopidnes (It might still be I guess), but closer reading leads me to think the apt cache is corrupt (/var/cache/apt/packages.bin or whatever it is). The actual debs were copied off the floppy onto HD, and the exact names reconstructed (they'd been mangled by 'doze as usual).. Sooo, anyone got any ideas? Various Googling and slug.org/debian.org searches haven't yeilded anything yet. thanks all... Steve _ Nothing to read here. Please move along... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...
Crossfire [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/01 15:16:26 Steven downing was once rumoured to have said: [Details snipped] E:The package cache file is corrupted. Which made me think the .deb was corrupted via Windows stoopidnes (It might still be I guess), but closer reading leads me to think the apt cache is corrupt (/var/cache/apt/packages.bin or whatever it is). have you even considered an apt-get update? C. Not really, but I guess it's worth a try.. 'Apt-get update' updates the list of available packages yeah? And I was thinking that the packages cache file (/var/cache/apt/packages.bin??), was an index of files which had been downloaded from a network source (and possibly not yet installed on the system) Anyway, I'll give it a go tonite thanks Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Woody or Sid?
I'm planning a dist-uprgrade tonight on my potato box, from mirror.cse.unsw. So I was wondering what the Debianites think about the current non-stable branches? Is anything sufficiently broken in unstable right now to avoid it? It's only a desktop machine, and I'll be getting gnome from the ximian unstable site, but I *need* X4.0.1 to run my RIVA accelerated (mmm purty pictures). Points to mention: I have to drag this box upstairs to apt-get over the net, so i'd prefer something which *fairly* stable (56k Link). I know about getting perl-5.6 out of unstable before dist-upgrade, are there any other gotcha's? TIA P.S How able is Alien? All these magazines come with nice flashy RPM packages which sometimes would be good to update with, or is this going to horribly pollute my Deb system -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Swann speed demon modem and serial ports?
Anyone got one of these red, external modem-beasties? I bought one the other day, and it *seems* to work under Mandrake, but it isn't dialing the right number I believe. Whenever I try connect I get a lovely Tel$tra message about "The number you have dialed is incorrect or incomplete". I had the same prob under Win98, but setting the COM port and the modem to the same speed solved that. I tried similar things under under Linux like: 1) setting kppp to 9600 which is what /dev/ttyS0 was set at. 2) or kppp connecting at 115,200, and "setserial -ispeed (and -ospeed) 115200 /dev/ttyS0" 3) Repeat for gnome-ppp The modem is capable of 115200 throughput, and /dev/modem reports the same as /dev/ttyS0. Watching the debug window, it was sending the right commands, and said that it was dialing the right number, even tried the manufacturers alternate INIT string. Googling turned up nada... Anyone got a cluestick? Direct replies please, I'm on slug-digest. TIA Steve _ Nothing to read here. Please move along... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
Start the RH 7.0 installation CD, using either boot floppies (which can be made using the CD under Windows, there are instructions there somewhere on the setup CD), or boot straight off the CD. Continue with the RH setup and somewhere you will reach the 'Disk Druid' partitioning part of the setup, choose something like "Advanced' to make/delete/look at the partitions on your drive. Here it should show what partitions you have and what type they are. Since you want no part of Windows, happily delete it's partition, then create what you need for Linux. (If you have no idea what you need, try 1 Linux Swap partition at 1.5 times your RAM amount, and the rest an ext2 Linux Filesystem), that is TWO partitions on your Hard drive. Continue with the RH setup. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mounting partitions..
Just a quick closeout for the archives, Thanks Ken, worked a treat, it was case sensitive. Ken Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/01/01 9:48:37 /usr/local/mp3 vfat rw,noexec,suid,UID=1000,GID=101,UMASK=002 Case is probably important, try uid=, gid= and umask= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mounting partitions..
Morning all, Unfortunately it's time for me to ask another 'slap your forehead' newbie question. When I mount one of my windows partitions at boot time it is always owned by root, and no other users can get write permission to any of the windows partitions/directories. Perusal of man fstab convinced me to try different things with UID, GID and UMASK, but none of them seem to work. I tried these out on the mp3 partition first... Relevant snippets follow: (fstab) /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS vfat rw,user,noexec 0 0/dev/hdb3 /usr/local/mp3 vfat rw,noexec,suid,UID=1000,GID=101,UMASK=002 0 0(ls on a directory under /usr/local/mp3)drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 25 07:34 .drwxr-xr-x 15 root root16384 Jan 1 1970 ..-rw-r--r--1 root root 1163 Nov 27 03:14 Kruder Dorfmiester - Disc 1.m3u-rw-r--r--1 root root 1126 Nov 27 03:15 Kruder Dorfmiester - Disc 2.m3u-rw-r--r--1 root root 1944 Nov 27 03:14 Stereo MC's.m3u-rw-r--r--1 root root 1545 Jan 20 02:01 Thievery Corp - the mirror conspiracy.m3u-rw-r--r--1 root root 1810 Nov 27 03:13 Thievery Corp..m3uUID=1000 is my user (i'm the only one on this box)GID = 101 is an mp3 group. I found out later I could/should have just used the group 'users'. Debian Potato. Pointers, URLs, happily accepted TIA Steve = The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny..."' - Isaac Asimov -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Arrgh! [SLUG] Mounting partitions..
Apologies all for the horrible formatting of that last message. Cut and paste job from home to work, from Gnome to Groupwise. (Why can't there be a standard for hardcoded line breaks??) bugger. Steve = The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny..."' - Isaac Asimov -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mounting partitions..
Yeah, but as I undestand it, this allows users to mount the floppy, then they 'own' it if it's a FAT partition. Since root mounts things at boot time, and since its a FAT partition he/she/it (is there a gender/pronoun for the entity root?) 'owns' the partition. UID, GID, UMASK options are apparently the answer... thanks Steve Craige McWhirter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/01/01 9:52:20 Try something similar to what I use for my floppy which allows users to mount/read/write (on my Debian systems anywhy) # file system mount point type options dump /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] So what should you buy? [Was: COMPAQ running Linux]
Check the mail header a little further back and you will find: snip Received: from mathildelan1.email.citicorp.com (mathildelan1.email.citicorp.com [169.191.98.43]) by x400prod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA02026 Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mathildelan1.email.citicorp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA26206 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:38:16 +1100 (EDT) end snip Notice the timezone is +1100 (EDT). That would mean his localhost at least is set to the Sydney timezone (well 11 hrs ahead of GMT). Therefore I assume he is in our area at least, but sending out through a US gateway. Poor bugger is being accused of being American and he is'nt! Steve = The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny..."' - Isaac Asimov -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] debian + hardware acceleration + opengl
If you're running an nvidia card then get the nvidia kernel drivers. These conflict/replace the MesaGL libs, but the documentation explains what to look for/delete/symlink. enjoy Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] recovery
Actually while we're at it... anyone care to explain what the imagic flag and dtime set means for an Ext2 filesystem? And possibly how to recover from them. e2fsck complained about literally thousand of inodes being bad after this.. One of my partitions went crazy showing multiple 957Meg files on a 900Meg partition... as it was only a temp partition I'd dumped some mp3s on I just did an mkfs.ext2, and copied them back on... Can't recall anything that might have prompted this partition going bad, although I was installing a new M/B and after setting up M$ i forget how many crashes/reboots I did that night. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Repeated FAQs page
IMHO this would preclude people from just monitoring email and chipping in when they feel like it. Sitting at work I can't keep SLUG page open all day, and can't just install something like SlashApp on the company machines (I'm not in I.T.), so web based discussions get a bit cumbersome... On the other hand it provides a basis for the Slug community to engage in OT discussion without the usual protestations Craige McWhirter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/11/00 10:55:10 Jeff Waugh wrote: Another benefit (and one of the reasons the systems team here wanted it) was that it would potentially (and did) remove the traffic off the mail groups or in SLUG's case, the mailing list. IM(probably eschewed)HO, the mailing should mainly be for screams of help/questions etc. A lot of the more interesting discussions (like this) would be moved to the website, out of people's inboxes but available should they care to read later or available in the search engine should people do searches on discussions. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)
Thanks Guys, I will have to remember that apt-zip as I'm found a bit of a more permanent solution. Buy old 3G HD, find out old 33k non-winmodem, install in machine near phone line, with Debian on the new hard drive, slow and nasty... oh well. Then I can either apt-zip away, or possibly temporarily Ethernet across the backyard to my room (I live in the garage, hence no phone, hence no net). I just thought I'd ask if anyone had a bunch of the packages lying around already on cd or in their apt-cache (or whatever it is) Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/11/00 17:50:01 James Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Steven downing said: Try apt-zip Hmmm... I haven't seen this before. From debian.org, about the apt-zip package: "These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies. One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and then install the package on your Debian box." Looks like they're assuming that the connected box is *nix. Steven's is 'doze. Doh! Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Modules not found.
Any Sluggers care to comment on why I had to perform the following 'dirty hack' I rolled my own kernel (even used debian Kernel-package! ) and discovered it wasn't finding my modules on boot up. I'd done update-modules and all that stuff, and it was finding some of the modules... i.e It found smbfs.o in /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/fs/smb/ but wouldn't find sb and soundcore in /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/drivers/sound/ Depmod wasn't searching those directories for some reason. Uname -r reported the right name. /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/modules.dep only listed the smbfs modules. Intially I got the modules to load by including /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/ in /etc/modules.conf and this worked. Then I looked at the setup for the plain Vanilla debian 2.2.17 kernel and found that by renaming my /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/drivers to be /lib/modules/2.4.0-test7/misc everything (depmod and subsequent bootup) worked fine without having to explicitly put the path in modules.conf. Is this just an incompatibility between the stable depmod and the newer kernel source/modules setup? Anyway, it works, I just thought I ask why it didn't in the first place? I need to get my head around all this modules stuff as I will be installing a nvidia tnt2 with its kernel drivers, and 'rolling my own' again in the near future. Steve == Never argue with idiots - they'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)
Nuts! Once again I need debian unstable... So is there anyone going to the meeting on Friday with a cd or three of the unstable archive (in its most stable incarnation if possible). Unfortunately the machine in question is unconnected, and our net-connected M$ machine has no cd-burner, and a 56K dialup. Payment/Gratitude gratefully given... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Modules not found... (well then I ask a favour)
Unfortunately I figure this would mean trolling through the debian archive directories to find all the dependencies needed for a package (source or binary) with a Windows ftp client and then finding the required number of floppies to transfer it all across. For things like task-xwindows-complete (or even core) this is pretty onerous, and I need to go to xfree4.0.1 for the new nvidia drivers, which is why I was looking for a cd, as well as the upgrade you mentioned. Thanks for the suggestion though... I love the Debian way, but without net connection or a burner its a little harder to keep up to date. Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/11/00 15:29:58 Steven downing wrote: Nuts! Once again I need debian unstable... So is there anyone going to the meeting on Friday with a cd or three of the unstable archive (in its most stable incarnation if possible). Unfortunately the machine in question is unconnected, and our net-connected M$ machine has no cd-burner, and a 56K dialup. Payment/Gratitude gratefully given... Just compile the source packages from modutils-2.3.20 under potato and install the resulting deb. That's what I did. See this article: http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/sections.php?op=viewarticleartid=1 Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] InfraRed Controllers
Any Sluggers out there using Infrared with Linux? I'm getting a new motherboard and I noticed it sports an Infrared port (HPSIR or ASKIR or FasterIR), and since the only reason I'm really upgrading is for better MP3 support (I never did fix that floating point error problem, it was the camel that broke the straws back as far as deciding I needed to upgrade a bit), I thought I'd ask if anyone had some experience with these devices.. I guess it'll mainly be used as a remote into Freeamp or xmms, so what I really need to start with is an idea of what/where to get a receiver/transceiver that works with Linux... Also, anyone got the Xfree 4.0.1 deb's (and all dependencies needed to upgrade from Potato) on a Cd they could lend/sell, as the machine only has 'sneakernet' access currently. thanks Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] MP3's causing Floating Point Exception.
Hi Sluggers, Once again I need to delve into the collected knowledge bin for some help. Running Debian Potato on a Cyrix 6x86 with an ALS-100 soundcard. The soundcard runs under the Soundblaster kernel module. My problem is that all the mp3 programs from Potato all bomb out after a random amount of time with a floating point exception. it happens either from the console (mp3blaster) or in X. Random time means from just getting it started (i.e not actually playing yet) to having played up to 5-10 songs. Things I've tried so far include: New kernel (2.4.0-test7) Running xmms or whatever and just leaving the machine alone. Stopped cron, or anything else I could so they couldn't wake up and interrupt. Strace showed they all ran hapily gathering data from the files playing etc until it gets killed by SIGFPE. Gimp, bzflag, koules etc etc all run, so if it's a processor floating point bug it's pretty esoteric. Chaning plugin to go straight to sound card, not through EsD. (xmms and freeamp). I've got a mail in to debian-user, but I thought I'd run it by the Sluggers too. thanks all Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian sound question
The kernel that ships with Deb seems to treat all sound card support as = modules. I ran modconf and added the soundcore and sb modules found under miscellane= ous modules. It pretty much worked for me straight away after that. This = is with an oldish Advance Logic sound card (PCI, the modules must self = detect the IRQ etc). Try a search on the debian mailing lists at = www.debian.org and it may very well turn up some good ideas. Don't know = much about ALSA sorry. I actually found this better than Rh's sndconfig. Rh always objected, = saying it couldn't write to the card as it was already open. And on my = other machine it couldn't find the SB vibra 128 when the mobo-LAN card was = enabled. Its nice to fire up X and hear your computer stumble over "Welcome to = Enlightenment" Steve plesant female voice "Are you sure you wish to log out now?" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Killing *really* dead proccess.
Hi all. My cd-rom is a bit dodgy and old, so sometimes when it is reading off the drive Linux throws up its hands and sends a hardware reset to the unit. Last night but when I tried to mount it in Gnome something bad happened and the mount process froze. Anyway X went a bit wobbly so I quit out, and checked what was running. Gmc(or one of those long-named-gnome-processes) and the mount command were still running but niether were zombied. Kill and Kill -9 didn't work on either of them, niether did Kill -Stop (or sigstop, whatever). I tried as my user and as root. So finally my question is, is there a way to kill something which isn't responding to those signals. And zombies? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] 1st Debian install (was M$ goes open source)
I've only been a Linux user for a few months now, and decided to go Debian last week. Inside one week I've got more set up and working correctly than I did in x months of RedHat. X worked out of the box, (almost, bad hardware cursor), XMMS and all those sound things needed a bit of chmod /dev/ (mixer..dsp...audio), but all is great now. Ok so dselect is daunting, I just browse through, check out what I have, and what I want, quit out, then do an apt-get install package. Much kudos to SLUG though, as now I know how to handedit the right files, getting stuff to work is a whole load easier than bashing my head against RH's sndconfig. Sure the learning curve is a little steep, but once it's up and running, it seems no harder than any other distro. Hey, after 1 week of Debian I've settled enough to start learning Perl, and play quake. Steve == Never argue with idiots - they'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Another Debian newbie
After doing a nice clean install of potato last night, I now have to come to grips with the 'Debian way of doing things' - like setting up a sound card and a nic, etc. So is there some tool like the one in the install that let you choose what modules load with the kernel. It was 12am and I just wanted to get the basics up and running. I did get a few packages groaning at install time too, but running dselect then checking for unconfigured packages didn't find anything. My other prob is whatever window manager I run, the cursor is a large block of junk, about a cm square of random black and white pixels. Anyone got any tips on this? The debian newbie guide 'task-debian-newbie' is ok for Linux beginners, but is there something (web based, whatever) which is more a guide to the 'Debian way of things'? many thanks all Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Another Debian newbie
Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/10/00 12:09:47 My other prob is whatever window manager I run, the cursor is a large block of junk, about a cm square of random black and white pixels. Anyone got any tips on this? sounds like a problem with your X server. which funky, latest whizzbang graphics card do you have? Good old cirrus logic pci 5440 circa '95 which has worked under redhat,suse,mulinux. Runs under the SVGA server. (Xfree 3.whatever) (unforunately i can't apt-get xfree 4 off the net just yet) Everything else comes up looking good, I just thought it might be some kind of special debian cursor graphic which was bad. Or more to the point, is there a file/place where the screen cursor comes from. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] APM and Xfree4.0
Ahh, me thiinks I have some deeper problem. i ran xf86config and ened up getting a very basic super vga monitor to work, but the are NO modelines in the monitor section. xf86cfg died. It started an xserver and showed a nice white window with a few black rectangle outlines, i remember something about compliation problems was the error message. xvidtune showed the current modeline then died too! thanks for the help though, I'll do a little more RTFM now i know they are supposed to be in XF86Config. Yay SLUG! A response time about 2 days(and waiting) quicker than the Xfree mailing list. Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/09/00 15:07:47 Not sure about your APM issue, but I can help with the XFree86 prob... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] undocumented Mozilla feature :-)
For some reason our company firewall blocks major parts of this site. The reason. racism i.e Problem Report: ACCESS DENIED. Message ID: UFS_ WEBSENSE_DENIED Problem Description: This is a restricted site. These pages are catalogued as being under the title of: racism. I wonder if it has anything to do with our impending changeover to Word/M$ Office. Sucks, because I was having a good Friday arvo laugh!! Ken Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/09/00 15:57:55 http://i-want-a-website.com/about-linux/aug00.shtml#Exploits Last week security holes were found in Netscape's Java implementation that allowed it to act as a web server. Earlier today, a hacker announced that he had found vulnerabilities in Mozilla M17 that allow it to operate as a web browser. And that's just the beginning. ... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Lilo problem
Steve == In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams [ Source: http://coolsig.com/ ] Melinda Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/08/00 17:46:23 snip ok I did a fdisk /mbr and windows now boots again and I can boot to linux using my floppy so I am safe but it would be nice to somehow tell lilo to write its info the mbr of my windows disk /dev/hda snip If you've heard this before stop me. I got around this by using Loadlin, as LILO has problems booting if your Linux image is on a drive partition larger than 1024 cylinders. It means I boot into winblows first but everyone else in the house is only comfortable with m$ crap so by the time I get on the machine it is already in windows anyway. For more info on various booting options try linuxnewbie.com (or something like that). fdisk /mbr is the only m$ command I have thanked god for, but it would be needed if they weren't so pigheaded in the first place. Once you get the loadlin program (it comes with most distro's) boot into Linux and copy your Linux image to somewhere on the Dos hard drive, then Loadlin can find it and work away. A plus is you can let win9X setup your older troublesome cards then just make Linux aware of their settings. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
