Re: [SLUG] Debian kernel question
Steven == Steven Chang-Lin Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steven Alan L Tyree wrote: I'm running Debian testing on one of my machines. If I just run apt-get install kernel-image-xxx-xxx does that install a new kernel completely or do I need to do other things to get it to run properly? Just reboot. Steven You need to edit GRUB or LILO to load up the new kernel image This isn't necessary *unless* you've edited lilo.conf to a non-standard configuration. -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian kernel question
I'm running Debian testing on one of my machines. If I just run apt-get install kernel-image-xxx-xxx does that install a new kernel completely or do I need to do other things to get it to run properly? Thanks for help, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian kernel question
Alan L Tyree wrote: I'm running Debian testing on one of my machines. If I just run apt-get install kernel-image-xxx-xxx does that install a new kernel completely or do I need to do other things to get it to run properly? Thanks for help, Alan You need to edit GRUB or LILO to load up the new kernel image -- Steven Chang-Lin Yu http://requiemonline.tripod.com - Online Guide To Requiem Celluar: +61 0401 043 641 Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian kernel question
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:55:04 +1100 Steven Chang-Lin Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan L Tyree wrote: I'm running Debian testing on one of my machines. If I just run apt-get install kernel-image-xxx-xxx does that install a new kernel completely or do I need to do other things to get it to run properly? Thanks for help, Alan You need to edit GRUB or LILO to load up the new kernel image Thanks Steven, -- Steven Chang-Lin Yu http://requiemonline.tripod.com - Online Guide To Requiem Celluar: +61 0401 043 641 Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian Kernel
At 4:17 pm, Wednesday, September 3 2003, Nicholas Wilcox mumbled: It's actually saying to make sure you have the initrd=blah line in the kernel definition in your lilo.conf. Sometimes you can update the image parameter but forget to change the initrd parameter. Well, I use GRUB, but having the image point to /vmlinuz, and the initrd to /initrd.img has given me no problems so far. Cheers, -- Steve jaq how about MTBF? scsi will once again rise high and rule with a metal fist -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian Kernel
I have just upgraded my machine from stable to sarge (I specified sarge in my sources so I stick with it when it becomes stable). Apart from the fact that Gnome is broken, things have gone quite smoothly so far. I would like to use a more recent kernel. I looked at the kernel packages, and there are zillions of them! I suppose it's a good way of handling all the variety of targets for binary kernels, but it's a bit of a shock when compared to all the other packages. Anyway, I decided to go with kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686. I have a single CPU PIII, so this kernel seemed like a good fit for me. I did an apt-get -d install (-d to download only) and apt decided to download kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp too. I don't understand this. The smp kermal was not listed as a dependency for the non smp kernel. So, would some kind soul please tell me: o If the kernel I'm trying to install is a reasonable one to go for? o Why I got the bonus SMP kernel? o Will the bonus SMP kernel be installed too? o If apt-get install will Do The Right Thing to make the non-SMP kernel bootable? Many thanks, Bruce - Bruce Badger OpenSkills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Kernel
At 3:41 pm, Tuesday, September 2 2003, Bruce Badger mumbled: So, would some kind soul please tell me: o If the kernel I'm trying to install is a reasonable one to go for? Indeed. 2.4.21-4-686 (or 2.4.21-5-686, at a pinch) is okay. o Why I got the bonus SMP kernel? I'd need to see the output of apt-get to determine that. o Will the bonus SMP kernel be installed too? You said to apt-get to only download. Therefore, I'm to assume you're going to use dpkg -i to install it, in which case, no. o If apt-get install will Do The Right Thing to make the non-SMP kernel bootable? Keep in mind if either or both kernels are installed, your machine will remain bootable. SMP or non-SMP it will still boot. An SMP kernel is not dependant on having more than one CPU. That doesn't answer your question, however. If you use lilo, yes, installing the .deb will do the Right Thing. Cheers, -- Steve I've lost my sig! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Kernel
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:17, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 3:41 pm, Tuesday, September 2 2003, Bruce Badger mumbled: So, would some kind soul please tell me: ... o Why I got the bonus SMP kernel? I'd need to see the output of apt-get to determine that. OK :-) wally:~# apt-get -d install kernel-image-2.4.21-4.686 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686 kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp The following NEW packages will be installed: kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686 kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 22.3MB of archives. After unpacking 60.9MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get:1 ftp://ftp.iinet.net sarge/main kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686 2.4.21-4 [11.0MB]Get:2 ftp://ftp.iinet.net sarge/main kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp 2.4.21-4 [11.3MB] Fetched 22.3MB in 14m11s (26.2kB/s) Download complete and in download only mode o Will the bonus SMP kernel be installed too? You said to apt-get to only download. Therefore, I'm to assume you're going to use dpkg -i to install it, in which case, no. Well, I plan to use apt-get install without the -d this time. Will that work OK? o If apt-get install will Do The Right Thing to make the non-SMP kernel bootable? Keep in mind if either or both kernels are installed, your machine will remain bootable. SMP or non-SMP it will still boot. An SMP kernel is not dependant on having more than one CPU. That doesn't answer your question, however. If you use lilo, yes, installing the .deb will do the Right Thing. Great, thanks. In trying to understand why I got the bonus SMP kernel (above) I used apt-get -d install to get kernel-image-2.4.20.3.686. This one came down *without* a bonus SMP package. Then, when running the apt-get install again (to really install it) I got this: You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version 2.4.20-3-686) This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use initrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to use an INITial Ram Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and use that for booting). This reads like back off unless you know what you are doing!. But is it really saying do remember to update lilo.conf, old bean? Or is it saying something else altogether? Many thanks, Bruce signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Kernel
At 10:43 pm, Tuesday, September 2 2003, Bruce Badger mumbled: wally:~# apt-get -d install kernel-image-2.4.21-4.686 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686 kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp The following NEW packages will be installed: kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686 kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 22.3MB of archives. After unpacking 60.9MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get:1 ftp://ftp.iinet.net sarge/main kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686 2.4.21-4 [11.0MB]Get:2 ftp://ftp.iinet.net sarge/main kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686-smp 2.4.21-4 [11.3MB] Fetched 22.3MB in 14m11s (26.2kB/s) Download complete and in download only mode Because you are installing 'kernel-image-2.4.21-4.686', which gets expanded to both kernels. Install 'kernel-image-2.4.21-4-686', and you'll get only 686. Well, I plan to use apt-get install without the -d this time. Will that work OK? Keeping in mind the above information, it will work okay. Great, thanks. In trying to understand why I got the bonus SMP kernel (above) I used apt-get -d install to get kernel-image-2.4.20.3.686. This one came down *without* a bonus SMP package. Then, when running the apt-get install again (to really install it) I got this: You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version 2.4.20-3-686) This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use initrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to use an INITial Ram Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and use that for booting). This reads like back off unless you know what you are doing!. But is it really saying do remember to update lilo.conf, old bean? Or is it saying something else altogether? It's saying do remember to update lilo.conf, or Bad Things Will Happen. Like having an unbootable shiny new kernel. Cheers, -- Steve * vorlon installs ntop to look at the copyright file, and finds that he can't purge it because of a broken maintainer script. Heh. luca vorlon: this is your punishment for questioning the Luca -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] debian kernel 2.4.21 with freeswan 2.00 and herberts patch
Hi All, I am trying to get freeswan working with the 2.4.21 debian kernel (which Herbert backported the 2.5 IPsec stack for), and I am having some problems. As far as I understand it I need to get the freeswan-2.00.patch.gz file from http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/debian/freeswan/ I checked the first couple of lines in that patch to find that it is looking at this file: linux/include/freeswan/ipsec_kversion.h I cant find this file anywhere on my system, nor can I find it in the packages.debian.org search engine. Also, and I dont know whether this is important or not, but when I try and install freeswan 2.00 I get an error saying that it cannot find KLIPS in this kernel. I assume that is because freeswan needs to be patched before it can use the 2.5 IPSec stack. Would someone mind giving me some idea on what I need to do to get this working? Cheers, Adam. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] debian kernel 2.4.21 with freeswan 2.00 and herberts patch
Damned western australians you need the freeswan-module-source packages, the patch is applied agains this module. On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:56:53PM +0800, Adam Hewitt wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get freeswan working with the 2.4.21 debian kernel (which Herbert backported the 2.5 IPsec stack for), and I am having some problems. As far as I understand it I need to get the freeswan-2.00.patch.gz file from http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/debian/freeswan/ I checked the first couple of lines in that patch to find that it is looking at this file: linux/include/freeswan/ipsec_kversion.h I cant find this file anywhere on my system, nor can I find it in the packages.debian.org search engine. Also, and I dont know whether this is important or not, but when I try and install freeswan 2.00 I get an error saying that it cannot find KLIPS in this kernel. I assume that is because freeswan needs to be patched before it can use the 2.5 IPSec stack. Would someone mind giving me some idea on what I need to do to get this working? Cheers, Adam. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian kernel source
$ dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/version.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/linux/version.h So on my Debian system that suggests that you need the development library sources for libc6. One thing that irked me a little was that I installed the kernel source for DEB and it did not require GCC and GCC did not require the include libraries. Strange KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
