[SLUG] Desktop publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Heracles
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Hi All,
I've recently taken back the job of creating the monthly magazine for a
computer club I have been a member of since 1982. The person who gave me
a couple of years rest used windows and word so I will have to recreate
the templates from scratch probably. The magazine is 24 pages for which
the format is fairly fixed.

Page 1 is a cover with graphics and some text, Page 2 has an index
(which obviously changes monthly) and other fixed text and page 24 is
basically fixed with only a small part (Dates) of its text changing monthly.
Pages 3 to 23 (where all the new content is placed) are set up as 2
columns with a footer but no header.

I used to use Open Office and made it in four parts which I combined and
created a pdf for the printer when I did it in the past but I was
wondering if there might be a simpler way to set up a template for the
whole magazine as one unit and just make the minor changes and drop in
the new body text each month.

Any recommendation would be appreciated.

Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Desktop publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Rodolfo Martínez
Hi Heracles,

Maybe Scribus (http://www.scribus.net) is a better option than
OpenOffice. I haven't used it, but I have heard it is good and stable,
and it is available for most of the Linux distributions (and other
platforms).

Have a nice day.

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
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 Hi All,
 I've recently taken back the job of creating the monthly magazine for a
 computer club I have been a member of since 1982. The person who gave me
 a couple of years rest used windows and word so I will have to recreate
 the templates from scratch probably. The magazine is 24 pages for which
 the format is fairly fixed.

 Page 1 is a cover with graphics and some text, Page 2 has an index
 (which obviously changes monthly) and other fixed text and page 24 is
 basically fixed with only a small part (Dates) of its text changing monthly.
 Pages 3 to 23 (where all the new content is placed) are set up as 2
 columns with a footer but no header.

 I used to use Open Office and made it in four parts which I combined and
 created a pdf for the printer when I did it in the past but I was
 wondering if there might be a simpler way to set up a template for the
 whole magazine as one unit and just make the minor changes and drop in
 the new body text each month.

 Any recommendation would be appreciated.

 Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Desktop publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Dean Hamstead

I can vouch for scribus, its quite good and very actively developed.

Dean

Rodolfo Martínez wrote:

Hi Heracles,

Maybe Scribus (http://www.scribus.net) is a better option than
OpenOffice. I haven't used it, but I have heard it is good and stable,
and it is available for most of the Linux distributions (and other
platforms).

Have a nice day.

Rodolfo Martínez
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

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Hi All,
I've recently taken back the job of creating the monthly magazine for a
computer club I have been a member of since 1982. The person who gave me
a couple of years rest used windows and word so I will have to recreate
the templates from scratch probably. The magazine is 24 pages for which
the format is fairly fixed.

Page 1 is a cover with graphics and some text, Page 2 has an index
(which obviously changes monthly) and other fixed text and page 24 is
basically fixed with only a small part (Dates) of its text changing monthly.
Pages 3 to 23 (where all the new content is placed) are set up as 2
columns with a footer but no header.

I used to use Open Office and made it in four parts which I combined and
created a pdf for the printer when I did it in the past but I was
wondering if there might be a simpler way to set up a template for the
whole magazine as one unit and just make the minor changes and drop in
the new body text each month.

Any recommendation would be appreciated.

Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Desktop publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:59:58 +1100
Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

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 Hi All,
 I've recently taken back the job of creating the monthly magazine for
 a computer club I have been a member of since 1982. The person who
 gave me a couple of years rest used windows and word so I will have
 to recreate the templates from scratch probably. The magazine is 24
 pages for which the format is fairly fixed.
 
 Page 1 is a cover with graphics and some text, Page 2 has an index
 (which obviously changes monthly) and other fixed text and page 24 is
 basically fixed with only a small part (Dates) of its text changing
 monthly. Pages 3 to 23 (where all the new content is placed) are set
 up as 2 columns with a footer but no header.
 
SNIP

Scribus has been mentioned already and it is very good and easy to work
with. 

However, from the sound of your publication, I think I would use LyX.
You have very few graphics and the rest of it sounds like it would fit
easily into the LyX format.

I self-published a cookbook that my wife wrote and it had quite a bit
of graphics - went like a charm with LyX.

You can see some of the pages at
http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/the-restless-minestrone/728996#

I used Scribus to do the front and back cover.

If your newsletter is no more complicated than this, then go with LyX.

HTH,
Alan


 
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Re: [SLUG] Desktop publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:59:58 +1100
Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

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 Hi All,
 I've recently taken back the job of creating the monthly magazine for
 a computer club I have been a member of since 1982. The person who
 gave me a couple of years rest used windows and word so I will have
 to recreate the templates from scratch probably. The magazine is 24
 pages for which the format is fairly fixed.
 
 Page 1 is a cover with graphics and some text, Page 2 has an index
 (which obviously changes monthly) and other fixed text and page 24 is
 basically fixed with only a small part (Dates) of its text changing
 monthly. Pages 3 to 23 (where all the new content is placed) are set
 up as 2 columns with a footer but no header.
SNIP

I should have added a few more notes about LyX.

First, you can get a better preview of The Restless Minestrone here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=w0hUXHizmaACdq=tyree+restless+minestroneprintsec=frontcoversource=blots=Pe8Cn4xBv6sig=Mhnh1GqzsKDyUa_duZKO3kAupDwhl=enei=FadOS9_3N5SXkQW41cSwCgsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepageq=f=false

(If that doesn't come through, just Google tyree restless minestrone)

Second, I used Memoir class to make the book. Lots of the
lists/graphics are in boxes which are just LaTeX minipages.

Third, I enjoyed the experience with LyX so much that I wrote short
(100 pages) book Self-publishing with LyX which is available as a
free PDF download from Lulu.com:
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/self-publishing-with-lyx/1502465

The Self-publishing book is based on an earlier version of LyX, but the
details haven't changed much. LyX itself has some of the best open
source documentation that I have seen.

HTH,
Alan

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Re: FW: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-19 Thread Ken Foskey
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 10:37, James Gregory wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 09:32, Robert Tillsley wrote:
  Arg, must remember to reply to list...
  
  1 minor addition: Is it likely that openoffice will support saving files as
  pdfs in future?
 
 It won't do it (well, not now, I left my crystal ball at home
 unfortunately), but you can get pdfs from OOo right now - print to
 postscript and then use ps2pdf to do the conversion. You can probably
 make it even niftier with some zany scripts that hook into lpr or
 something, but I've never had the patience to try.

Enter the fairy god mother

Yes you can export to PDF the last developers release it actually worked
well (first release was 'sub-optimal').

Other cool things are that slides can be exported to SWF (flash) files.

Coming soon to a server near you...

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RE: FW: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-19 Thread Robert Tillsley

 Enter the fairy god mother
 
 Yes you can export to PDF the last developers release it 
 actually worked
 well (first release was 'sub-optimal').
 
 Other cool things are that slides can be exported to SWF 
 (flash) files.
 
 Coming soon to a server near you...

Ok perhaps I'll have to keep an eye out and update as soon as its ready for
my little suse system. 

Thanks

Rob

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RE: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Foskey
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 10:34, Robert Tillsley wrote:
  Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems 
  with it. And
  as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms 
  publisher (any other
  emulators do?)
  
  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
 Hi 
 
 I'd also be interested if there are any good packages out there. Also
 wouldn't mind knowing if anyone has gotten Indesign, Quark or Pagemaker
 working through WINE or similar...

Browse the openoffice.org discuss list.  There was a discussion on this
there.

A comment was made that the draw part of OOo is a DTP,  I just pass this
on without comment though.  Might just be bravado.


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Re: FW: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-18 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 09:32, Robert Tillsley wrote:
 Arg, must remember to reply to list...
 
 1 minor addition: Is it likely that openoffice will support saving files as
 pdfs in future?

It won't do it (well, not now, I left my crystal ball at home
unfortunately), but you can get pdfs from OOo right now - print to
postscript and then use ps2pdf to do the conversion. You can probably
make it even niftier with some zany scripts that hook into lpr or
something, but I've never had the patience to try.

James.


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[SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread .will

While 'codeweavers' and 'crossover office' is floating around, i was
wondering what kind of desktop publishing software is available (in the
same vein as MS Publisher).

Nothing in the office packages (star, open, k) are what im looking for,
adobe charges slightly over a million dollars for their *nix publishers
(and afaict it only runs on AIX?!) Others i have seen aer well in excess
of 500$au.

Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems with it. And
as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms publisher (any other
emulators do?)

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

.will

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RE: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Tillsley

 Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems 
 with it. And
 as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms 
 publisher (any other
 emulators do?)
 
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Hi 

I'd also be interested if there are any good packages out there. Also
wouldn't mind knowing if anyone has gotten Indesign, Quark or Pagemaker
working through WINE or similar...

Regards

Rob T


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Re: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=.will

 Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems with it. And
 as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms publisher (any other
 emulators do?)

Scribus is about all you'll find in the Open Source world that even remotely
competes. Commercial Wine products may not list MS Publisher as *supported*,
but it may very well run.

I use Quark XPress and PageMaker under VMWare fairly regularly. They didn't
run so well in Win4Lin (even after fixing up the weird Win4Lin variables to
make them run at all).

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Re: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Robert Tillsley

 I'd also be interested if there are any good packages out there. Also
 wouldn't mind knowing if anyone has gotten Indesign, Quark or Pagemaker
 working through WINE or similar...

I tried PageMaker once. Wasn't very happy. ;-) Quark might be doable,
depending on the version, as it's almost completely ye-olde-Windows code,
but I haven't tried.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread .will
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:


 Scribus is about all you'll find in the Open Source world that even remotely
 competes. Commercial Wine products may not list MS Publisher as *supported*,
 but it may very well run.


sorry, should have clarified, codeweavers site lists it as Known Not to
Work. But I'm sure planning to give it a go still.

scribus is not too bad, but for some reason can only ever detect one font
(arghh!!!) and its a really ugly oen to boot ;)

i recently was forced to run rh8 over my preferred openbsd (for reasons
which i won't go into), so can anyone enlighten me as to what may cause
this lack of font availability?


thanks, and thanks for the tips.

(i just found IceSculptor on everything linux.. looks ok too for
others of you interested. (174$ though)) :/

.will

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Re: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread Graham Smith
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:32, .will wrote:
 While 'codeweavers' and 'crossover office' is floating around, i was
 wondering what kind of desktop publishing software is available (in the
 same vein as MS Publisher).

 Nothing in the office packages (star, open, k) are what im looking for,
 adobe charges slightly over a million dollars for their *nix publishers
 (and afaict it only runs on AIX?!) Others i have seen aer well in excess
 of 500$au.

 Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems with it. And
 as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms publisher (any other
 emulators do?)

 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 .will
Hi,

The following product was mentioned on the SuSE list about a month ago. I have 
not tried it. According to the web site it is on special this month for 
US$95.

PageStream has just recently been released for Linux.
http://www.grasshopperllc.com/ 

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Re: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-17 Thread mlh


Instead of going the pc emulation route,
maybe you'd be better off going the Mac
emulation route.

Get executor, and run some old web publishing
program.  'Sposed to be the Mac's strength.

Matt
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