Re: [SLUG] Kernel upgrade question

2004-02-08 Thread James Gregory
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 21:09, Slug wrote:
> I'm looking at upgrading a kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.4.24. I'm running a
> mandrake 9.2 system with lots of stuff server and client related.
> 
> Since this is a new thing for me (I generally stick within Kernel
> releases that come with a MDK distro) I was wondering if someone knew
> the general gotchas that might bite me (as it where).

I'm probably a bit late on this. Been away from email for a few days.
Mandrake have got 2.4.25 in their "cooker" development branch. I'm
currently running 2.6 from the same. I've generally had no problems
upgrading kernels from Mandrake built RPMs. Your /etc/lilo.conf will end
up a bit messier, but that's not an insoluble problem. If I were you,
I'd install this package:

ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.4.25.0.pre7.3mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

You'll also find packages for various 2.6 kernels in that directory
also, but a newer 2.4 is an easier migration path. As always, keep your
existing kernel around when you do this stuff, or at least keep a
working boot disk/cd handy.

> I need to do this as a certain dvb package insists I need at least
> 2.4.23 to run. If it sounds too hard to resolve possible dependency
> issues, I'll change tack and try the back releases of the DVB s/w.

So, if it's an RPM package, the other option is just to let urpmi
resolve any dependencies (kernel or otherwise) and not worry about it.

HTH,

James.


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Re: [SLUG] Kernel upgrade question

2004-02-06 Thread Darren Williams
Hi Slug

I really dont see any gotchas, the most important thing when  
upgrading kernels is to keep the old kernel image around, usually 
when you do the 'make install', make will create new links to the new
kernel and retain the old links. These links should turn up in the
lilo or grub boot screen.

About the only thing I ever come across is when make writes to the 
lilo or grub config file it uses LABEL to point to the root partition,
and I have to alway change this to the actual device, refer to 
/etc/fstab for you root device (this could be a RedHat problem?).


On Fri, 06 Feb 2004, Slug wrote:

> Thanks Jeff and David.
> 
> I need to compile the kernel unfortunately. 
> 
> 
> Stu
> 
> On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 21:40, David Uzzell wrote:
> > Slug wrote:
> > > I'm looking at upgrading a kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.4.24. I'm running a
> > > mandrake 9.2 system with lots of stuff server and client related.
> > > 
> > > Since this is a new thing for me (I generally stick within Kernel
> > > releases that come with a MDK distro) I was wondering if someone knew
> > > the general gotchas that might bite me (as it where).
> > > 
> > > I need to do this as a certain dvb package insists I need at least
> > > 2.4.23 to run. If it sounds too hard to resolve possible dependency
> > > issues, I'll change tack and try the back releases of the DVB s/w.
> > > 
> > 
> > You would hope with the exploit in the Kernel that Mandrake would 
> > release a kernel updated to the latest!
> > 
> > I would be inclined to see if there is a Security Update MDK rpm which 
> > would solve all your issues.
> > 
> > Slackware has and their upgrades go very easy with this in mind without 
> > the need of compile anything unless you generally make your own kernel's 
> > in the first place.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > > TIA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Stu
> > > 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Kernel upgrade question

2004-02-06 Thread Slug
Thanks Jeff and David.

I need to compile the kernel unfortunately. 


Stu

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 21:40, David Uzzell wrote:
> Slug wrote:
> > I'm looking at upgrading a kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.4.24. I'm running a
> > mandrake 9.2 system with lots of stuff server and client related.
> > 
> > Since this is a new thing for me (I generally stick within Kernel
> > releases that come with a MDK distro) I was wondering if someone knew
> > the general gotchas that might bite me (as it where).
> > 
> > I need to do this as a certain dvb package insists I need at least
> > 2.4.23 to run. If it sounds too hard to resolve possible dependency
> > issues, I'll change tack and try the back releases of the DVB s/w.
> > 
> 
> You would hope with the exploit in the Kernel that Mandrake would 
> release a kernel updated to the latest!
> 
> I would be inclined to see if there is a Security Update MDK rpm which 
> would solve all your issues.
> 
> Slackware has and their upgrades go very easy with this in mind without 
> the need of compile anything unless you generally make your own kernel's 
> in the first place.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> > TIA
> > 
> > 
> > Stu
> > 

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Re: [SLUG] Kernel upgrade question

2004-02-06 Thread David Uzzell
Slug wrote:
I'm looking at upgrading a kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.4.24. I'm running a
mandrake 9.2 system with lots of stuff server and client related.
Since this is a new thing for me (I generally stick within Kernel
releases that come with a MDK distro) I was wondering if someone knew
the general gotchas that might bite me (as it where).
I need to do this as a certain dvb package insists I need at least
2.4.23 to run. If it sounds too hard to resolve possible dependency
issues, I'll change tack and try the back releases of the DVB s/w.
You would hope with the exploit in the Kernel that Mandrake would 
release a kernel updated to the latest!

I would be inclined to see if there is a Security Update MDK rpm which 
would solve all your issues.

Slackware has and their upgrades go very easy with this in mind without 
the need of compile anything unless you generally make your own kernel's 
in the first place.

David


TIA

Stu

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Re: [SLUG] Kernel upgrade question

2004-02-06 Thread Jeff Waugh


> I'm looking at upgrading a kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.4.24. I'm running a
> mandrake 9.2 system with lots of stuff server and client related.
> 
> Since this is a new thing for me (I generally stick within Kernel releases
> that come with a MDK distro) I was wondering if someone knew the general
> gotchas that might bite me (as it where).

Probably the easiest thing to do is grab the config files out of the kernel
kernel source rpms, and do a make oldconfig with the one that matches your
current kernel. You'll end up with a similar configuration, and some prompts
for new drivers and options that differ in the new kernel version.

I don't know how far Mandrake kernels differ from Linus (Marcelo) kernels,
but this should get you on the right track at least.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Kernel upgrade question

2004-02-06 Thread Slug
I'm looking at upgrading a kernel from 2.4.20 to 2.4.24. I'm running a
mandrake 9.2 system with lots of stuff server and client related.

Since this is a new thing for me (I generally stick within Kernel
releases that come with a MDK distro) I was wondering if someone knew
the general gotchas that might bite me (as it where).

I need to do this as a certain dvb package insists I need at least
2.4.23 to run. If it sounds too hard to resolve possible dependency
issues, I'll change tack and try the back releases of the DVB s/w.

TIA


Stu

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