Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-19 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 10:00:15AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I
   strongly reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
  
  Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
  is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going
   backwards. 
 
  Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended
  9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.

Er, I think you're actually in agreement here.

'a pretty poor recommendation' meant that a distro
that goes backwards is a pretty poor distro,
not that the recommendation itself (to choose
9.3 over 10.0) is poor.


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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-19 Thread tuxta2

Matthew Hannigan wrote:


On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 10:00:15AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I
strongly reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
 


Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going
backwards. 
   


Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended
9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.
 



Er, I think you're actually in agreement here.

'a pretty poor recommendation' meant that a distro
that goes backwards is a pretty poor distro,
not that the recommendation itself (to choose
9.3 over 10.0) is poor.


Matt
 


OH! well in that case you are spot on. Well done.

oops

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread tuxta2

Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I strongly 
reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
   



Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going backwards.
 

Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended 
9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.
The reason for this is ease of use, most desktop users want dvd playback 
and other media formats to just work, like they just work in 9.3.
With 10.0, novell in their wisdom have decided not only to leave out 
libdvdcss, but also go a step further and prevent the media player from 
ever being able to play certain proprietary codecs, you have to 
completely uninstall the media player, find another yast repository that 
supports other builds and reinstall the player, and then go get 
libdvdcss aswell as other codecs. That is just simply too much to ask of 
a newbie.


If I were to use SuSE (I'm an Ubuntu user) I would use 10.0 and gets 
things to work, but for a newbie, 9.3 pro every time, just less hassle.



I have set my mother-in-law and my father up on Debian machines. If I was
to do it again I would probably choose ubuntu. I have run two versions
of ubuntu and AFAIAC the latter one was an improvement over the earlier one.
 

Yes, I always put people onto Ubuntu by default. Standard install and 
then run automatix and away they go. Its only when someone specifically 
want SuSE and they are very green, I tell them 9.3.


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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread David
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:20, Bolero wrote:
  Hello Everybody,
 
  I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the
  first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode
  incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading
  your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.

That was me ;-)

 
  I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
  even the basics working, I am asking for help.


I'm adding to the roar of approval for Ubuntu/Kubuntu. I've put a few newbies 
onto
it including my 84 year old mother-in-law (she didn't install though!), with no
problems.

You WILL have some problems, but Windows users have problems too, even Mac users
have problems. You can't have something as complicated as a computer and not 
have
problems.

The live CD is magical. You can play to your heart's content without touching
your Windows installation at all! When you shut down, the whole thing 
disappears,
and no damage is done. Pretty much everything works, or doesn't work, exactly
as it would in a full installation (except for access to your hard drive, and
saving files permanently - that's possible but beyond the scope of a beginner).

Go to ubuntulinux.com - download and burn the live ISO file which you will
find there and try it out. It will also help you connect to the net, and you
should be able to surf websites etc. A small caution - make sure everything
you are going to use is plugged in before you start the live install, because
the installer will go looking for devices, and if they aren't there, sometimes
post install is not quite so smooth.

  Problem 1 ? ADSL Connection
 
  The installation program does not ask me to setup my network connection,
  which I tried under ?Setup Internet Connection? as well as ?Network?.
  My modem is not listed and that?s were the trouble starts.
 
  Somebody advised that I should setup the connection using DHCP instead
  of PPPoA

If you still have your windows set up working, ask your isp about
getting connected to the net. Whatever you do with your modem for windows
is exactly what you would do for linux. Ubuntu will automatically look for
DHCP. Nearly all modern broadband modems seem to use DHCP so it is something
you don't really need to think about at this point of your career.

The modem is designed to connect to your ISP. Your computer (windows, mac
or linux) then uses DHCP to connect to the modem. Once your modem is set 
up you shouldn't need to change it. If it already works for windows it will
continue to work for anything else.



  Problem 2 ? Monitor Resolution
 
  The only resolution that works is the  monitor?s native one, i.e. 1280x1024.

My recollection is that the graphics tries to give you the highest resolution 
possible. Ubuntu gives you options to lower the resolution if you wish. I'm sure
Redhat does too... I've not used RH for years.

  Problem 3 ? Audio

Some audio is problematic. The live CD will sort that for you. It will either 
work or not. If it doesn't it's best to get help (from here, perhaps).

  Should I download and install the individual drivers in Windows?  Will
  my Windows OS still work? What chance is there that the Linux RH
  problems I have will be fixed?

No relationship at all. In certain cases, linux will 
use specially installed windows drivers, but that would be clear to you when
the time came. The drivers are used with linux wrappers - very confusing for
beginners. If you ever need them, you will  then understand, but it's not
for beginners.


  Somehow I am a bit weary, Stanton Finleys installation notes in the
  beginning point out that the installation of Linux is easy and can be
  done by everyone; however there are apparently 45 pages of installation
  notes needed to get the job done!
 
  Sorry, I am to say the least a bit frustrated and would appreciate some
  help.

Unless you have some strange hardware, Ubuntu will install and run with so 
little intervention that instruction are almost superfluous. I can't imagine
filling one page, much less 45 pages. I'm very sympathetic to beginners 
though.. there is way too much jargon and too much assumption of knowledge.
such as what does DHCP mean, and should I care?. Acronyms are one of  the 
greatest blocks to knowledge ever invented. They are a kind of insane
masonic code used by computer geeks to confuse the hoards.

One thing you will find very odd is that in the Linux world there is an 
amazing and sometimes confusing amount of choice. There is not one-true-way
to do things as there is in Windows. There is endless argument about window
managers and filesystems and distributions and other arcane matters that 
serve to confuse newbies.

Ubuntu has shortcircuited a lot of those arguments by making decisions
for you. You can get into the fun of arguing religious differences if and
when you want to, but after you have been initiated. Just go with the 
default settings at first. They work really well.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread Ken Wilson

Hi
there is an ubuntu5.10 cd in the mail for you.
I have your address from your recent membership payment, the cd cost me 
nothing so postage is the only cost, will save you downloading and 
burning install cds, which is not always reliable, you get to make 
coasters sometimes.
ubuntu will probably sort out your networking in its initial hardware 
detection without problems

Ken

Bolero wrote:

Hello Everybody,

I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the 
first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode 
incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading 
your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.


I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
even the basics working, I am asking for help.

My setup:

MoboD945GTP (onboard Sigmatel audio, onboard video)

Processor   Intel P640

RAM 1GB, 2GB L2 Cache

HDD 2 off SATAII, WD 160GB in raid 0,
incl. prim. Active C:/ partition with XP Pro SP1

HDD 1 off SATAII, SG 160GB NTFS, 1 swap partition 2GB,
1 Linux root partition 15GB)

Monitor Hitachi CML171SXW

Modem   External Siemens SpeedStream 4200 (as supplied by
Telstra Bigpond), presently used via USB 
connection, Ethernet connected to 2nd PC for 2nd Internet

connection.

I bought the ‘RH Fedora 4 Unleashed’ book incl. DVD, kernel 2.6.11.  The
installation as 2nd OS went OK, partitioning and formatting 2 GB swap
and 15GB root partition (both primary) with Disk Druid and using Linux
front end for selecting either OS (Windows XP Pro SP1 or Linux RH Core
4).  I got the following ‘issues’:

Problem 1   Can’t establish a working ADSL Internet connection

Problem 2   Video only works in 1280x1024 resolution, for me too
small to be comfortable with

Problem 3   Can’t get audio working


Problem 1 – ADSL Connection

The installation program does not ask me to setup my network connection,
which I tried under ‘Setup Internet Connection’ as well as ‘Network’.
My modem is not listed and that’s were the trouble starts.

Somebody advised that I should setup the connection using DHCP instead
of PPPoA (listed when I access the modem thru Windows).  Even with the
1200 odd pages book I got, the instructions are to me at least very
confusing.  The same applies to Stanton Finleys installation notes.

It appears that I have to download and install some program.  With the
Internet not working under Linux this is not possible.


Problem 2 – Monitor Resolution

The monitor’s HorizSync frequency range is picked up by the installation
program incorrectly.  As soon as I change this to the correct info as
per manual, I get an ‘Out of Range’ signal after reboot.

The vertical refresh rate is correct and I have not changed this one.

The monitor’s support pixel resolution I had to change to cover all
resolutions available in acc. with the manual.

I tried and re-installed Linux at least 15 times with various
configurations of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, both altering horizontal
frequency as well as pixel modes.  The only resolution that works is the
monitor’s native one, i.e. 1280x1024.


Problem 3 – Audio

During the installation I am ask to test sound, which does not work.  I
get the message ‘Audio will not be available on your system’.  No
further info, that’s it.

I have installed as part of the mobo drivers Sigmatel as the audio
driver, in acc. with the mobo installation instructions.


On the Intel website, for my motherboard, there is a network, video and
audio driver for Red Hat Linux available, (…._1.3_RHEL4_U1.TAR.GZ).

Should I download and install the individual drivers in Windows?  Will
my Windows OS still work? What chance is there that the Linux RH
problems I have will be fixed?  I have to say that at this stage I
cannot afford to loose Windows since this is the only thing I have that
works.

To make matters even worse, two days ago I was changing from Linux (with
the above hiccups) to Windows using Acronis OS Selector when suddenly
nothing worked.  After re-booting I got a black screen with a blinking
underscore cursor on the top left, nothing else.

The only way to get into the system was by using an Acronis Disk
Director Boot Disk which got me going again, that is Windows only.  When
I select Linux as the OS, I’ll get a black screen with ‘Grub_’ on the
top left, nothing else.

If I deactivate Acronis OS Selector, I get a black screen with ‘Grub_”.
 Going in circles, must have to do something with the MBR, don’t know
how to wipe it.

Well this is my present situation, a pretty mess; not to mention the
hours spent during the last six weeks.

Somehow I am a bit weary, Stanton Finleys installation notes in the
beginning point out that the installation of Linux is easy and can be
done by everyone; however there are apparently 45 pages of installation
notes needed to get the job done!

Sorry, I am to say 

Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread jam
On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I
  strongly reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
     
 
 Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
 is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going
  backwards. 

 Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended
 9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.
 The reason for this is ease of use, most desktop users want dvd playback
 and other media formats to just work, like they just work in 9.3.
 With 10.0, novell in their wisdom have decided not only to leave out
 libdvdcss, but also go a step further and prevent the media player from
 ever being able to play certain proprietary codecs, you have to
 completely uninstall the media player, find another yast repository that
 supports other builds and reinstall the player, and then go get
 libdvdcss aswell as other codecs. That is just simply too much to ask of
 a newbie.

 If I were to use SuSE (I'm an Ubuntu user) I would use 10.0 and gets
 things to work, but for a newbie, 9.3 pro every time, just less hassle.

 I have set my mother-in-law and my father up on Debian machines. If I was
 to do it again I would probably choose ubuntu. I have run two versions
 of ubuntu and AFAIAC the latter one was an improvement over the earlier
  one. 

 Yes, I always put people onto Ubuntu by default. Standard install and
 then run automatix and away they go. Its only when someone specifically
 want SuSE and they are very green, I tell them 9.3.

While I agree in principal, and I'm very much in favour of SuSE, I have 
recently installed SuSE10 on:

A dell 2400 for my father-in-law in the UK
A P4 for a mate
My P4 (tigger!)
AMD64X2
Celeron for a mate

I'm now going through the agony of converting every one back to 9.3 except the 
AMD64 where I'm trying ubuntu.

Why ...
AC'97 audio not detected
Sound blaster live not working
nvidia graphics AFU (I found a patch to fix twinview) then OK
wav files not playable (rate set to 32000, then nothing)
skype fails (suse  9rpm: inappropriate ioctl)
DVICO dvb card works (mythtv-0.19), twinhan does not!
kscd does not play [even though some sound works]
tigger froze (no ping, no X, no KB) 2x in 2 days, has uptimes of 100s days 
with 9.3

So, let the buyer beware, I'll not recommend 10.

I just finished ubuntu install:
quite basic compared with SuSE
I have 3 cups printers on my network, suse detects them on install + finds 
local printer
ubuntu printer: There was an error launching the application
 first impression not good.

Oh, my credintials: been using unix for 30 years (PDP11 + 15M HD + 100K ram !)
was teaching sys-admin for Hewlett Packard 20 years ago, used linux since 
1992, make a living by consulting support for RHE, RH9, SuSE, CentOS there is 
more, but that's enough to justify a considered opinion.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread Jacinta Richardson
Linley Caetan wrote:

 So Ubuntu or Kubuntu it is and I recommend Automatix for newbies to get
 them moving with a whole raft of  applications.

An alternative to Automatix is EasyUbuntu: easy to use script that gives the
Ubuntu user the most commonly requested apps, codecs, and tweaks that are not
found in the base distribution - all with a few clicks of your mouse.

easyubuntu.freecontrib.org

Apparently maintained by very friendly people who encourage suggestions and bug
reports, does everything correctly and makes later updating and security
patching easy for the future.

Or so I've heard.  ;)

Jacinta


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[SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-17 Thread Bolero

Hello Everybody,

I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the 
first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode 
incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading 
your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.


I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
even the basics working, I am asking for help.

My setup:

MoboD945GTP (onboard Sigmatel audio, onboard video)

Processor   Intel P640

RAM 1GB, 2GB L2 Cache

HDD 2 off SATAII, WD 160GB in raid 0,
incl. prim. Active C:/ partition with XP Pro SP1

HDD 1 off SATAII, SG 160GB NTFS, 1 swap partition 2GB,
1 Linux root partition 15GB)

Monitor Hitachi CML171SXW

Modem   External Siemens SpeedStream 4200 (as supplied by
		Telstra Bigpond), presently used via USB connection, Ethernet 
connected to 2nd PC for 2nd Internet

connection.

I bought the ‘RH Fedora 4 Unleashed’ book incl. DVD, kernel 2.6.11.  The
installation as 2nd OS went OK, partitioning and formatting 2 GB swap
and 15GB root partition (both primary) with Disk Druid and using Linux
front end for selecting either OS (Windows XP Pro SP1 or Linux RH Core
4).  I got the following ‘issues’:

Problem 1   Can’t establish a working ADSL Internet connection

Problem 2   Video only works in 1280x1024 resolution, for me too
small to be comfortable with

Problem 3   Can’t get audio working


Problem 1 – ADSL Connection

The installation program does not ask me to setup my network connection,
which I tried under ‘Setup Internet Connection’ as well as ‘Network’.
My modem is not listed and that’s were the trouble starts.

Somebody advised that I should setup the connection using DHCP instead
of PPPoA (listed when I access the modem thru Windows).  Even with the
1200 odd pages book I got, the instructions are to me at least very
confusing.  The same applies to Stanton Finleys installation notes.

It appears that I have to download and install some program.  With the
Internet not working under Linux this is not possible.


Problem 2 – Monitor Resolution

The monitor’s HorizSync frequency range is picked up by the installation
program incorrectly.  As soon as I change this to the correct info as
per manual, I get an ‘Out of Range’ signal after reboot.

The vertical refresh rate is correct and I have not changed this one.

The monitor’s support pixel resolution I had to change to cover all
resolutions available in acc. with the manual.

I tried and re-installed Linux at least 15 times with various
configurations of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, both altering horizontal
frequency as well as pixel modes.  The only resolution that works is the
monitor’s native one, i.e. 1280x1024.


Problem 3 – Audio

During the installation I am ask to test sound, which does not work.  I
get the message ‘Audio will not be available on your system’.  No
further info, that’s it.

I have installed as part of the mobo drivers Sigmatel as the audio
driver, in acc. with the mobo installation instructions.


On the Intel website, for my motherboard, there is a network, video and
audio driver for Red Hat Linux available, (…._1.3_RHEL4_U1.TAR.GZ).

Should I download and install the individual drivers in Windows?  Will
my Windows OS still work? What chance is there that the Linux RH
problems I have will be fixed?  I have to say that at this stage I
cannot afford to loose Windows since this is the only thing I have that
works.

To make matters even worse, two days ago I was changing from Linux (with
the above hiccups) to Windows using Acronis OS Selector when suddenly
nothing worked.  After re-booting I got a black screen with a blinking
underscore cursor on the top left, nothing else.

The only way to get into the system was by using an Acronis Disk
Director Boot Disk which got me going again, that is Windows only.  When
I select Linux as the OS, I’ll get a black screen with ‘Grub_’ on the
top left, nothing else.

If I deactivate Acronis OS Selector, I get a black screen with ‘Grub_”.
 Going in circles, must have to do something with the MBR, don’t know
how to wipe it.

Well this is my present situation, a pretty mess; not to mention the
hours spent during the last six weeks.

Somehow I am a bit weary, Stanton Finleys installation notes in the
beginning point out that the installation of Linux is easy and can be
done by everyone; however there are apparently 45 pages of installation
notes needed to get the job done!

Sorry, I am to say the least a bit frustrated and would appreciate some
help.

Wilfried







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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-17 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:20, Bolero wrote:
 Hello Everybody,

 I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the
 first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode
 incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading
 your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.

 I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
 even the basics working, I am asking for help.

My advice is to ditch Red Hat.  When it works, it works like anything that 
works.  When it doesn't, it is too arcane to figure out and fix what isn't 
working.  Red Hat, for example, doesn't follow the common Linux approach of 
accepting kernel updates as a way to fix bugs, which is half of why kernels 
get updated.  Instead Red Hat back patches the kernel they shipped, so their 
software is only compatible with itself.

Other aspects of their setup are specific only to Red Hat.  This make it a 
pain to work through problems, as many of the details are known only to Red 
Hat experts.

I know everyone using Red Hat will scream, but I've gone from SuSE, through 
two versions of  Red Hat, to Debian, and now Gentoo (I hack to fix things the 
way I want, so I choose a distro that's designed for hacking - Gentoo might 
not be best for beginners.)

Try Ubuntu or Kubuntu.  They are specifically aimed at newcomers, and work 
very well out of the box.  You could get the livecd via your Windows 
connection, and try it on your hardware to see how well it does.  As well, 
Knoppix also will let you try your hardware out before installing.

I set up the Red Hat Enterprise Servers at work, and built our software 
installation package for them (not properly - management wasn't interested in 
spending the time unfortunately).  One thing I found was that if I didn't 
install mySQL at first, it couldn't be added later.  Only after several years 
during which the term rpm hell was coined did Red Hat get around to coming 
up with a different package management tool -yum to make up for failures in 
their initial approach.  If the rpm system worked, there would have been no 
reason to create yum.


 Problem 1 – ADSL Connection

 The installation program does not ask me to setup my network connection,
 which I tried under ‘Setup Internet Connection’ as well as ‘Network’.
 My modem is not listed and that’s were the trouble starts.

 Somebody advised that I should setup the connection using DHCP instead
 of PPPoA

DHCP is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol.  It is a message passing standard 
so that two network devices can talk to each other - one requesting and the 
other granting a network IP address.

DHCP will do nothing to negotiate the ADSL connection to your provider.  If 
you have a combination DSL modem AND DHCP server, then your computer would 
connect to that and use DHCP to negotiate it's connection TO THE MODEM/DHCP 
SERVER - but the computer in that case has no knowledge of or involvement in 
the DSL connection.

The connection to your ISP is DSL.  You write that the modem has both USB  
ethernet connections - does the modem documentation say it can provide a DHCP 
server?  If it only has the one ethernet connector, then it can only provide 
that service for one computer anyway (without you doing some fairly arcane 
work setting up bridging, etc., which is definitely not newbie territory).

To share a single Internet connection among several computers, you have to 
have a router somewhere in the chain to aggregate the connections and 
translate the addresses.  If the device you have has only one ethernet 
connection, it's very unlikely it's a router.

My router itself can use my modem (two distinct devices here) to set up a DSL 
connection.  However, if I connect the modem directly to my computer, either 
by USB or ethernet, my computer must use PPPoE (or variant) to drive the 
connection.

So, does your device have more than one ethernet connector?  Forget the USB 
stuff - that's a single dedicated connection - only if it has more than one 
ethernet connector might it be a router, in which case the DHCP stuff, etc. 
might come into play.


 Problem 2 – Monitor Resolution

 The only resolution that works is the  monitor’s native one, i.e. 1280x1024.

How important is it to you to switch resolutions?

You don't get text the way you like it by switching resolutions - you set up 
the DisplaySize variable and then pick your fonts the way you like them.

You might have other reasons to switch resolutions, but I'll suggest that's 
the wrong approach to take to fix fonts you don't like.  Higher resolution 
means the fonts can be rendered with more pixels, making them smoother.  
Getting the right size is best approached differently.

So, do you know that you have some other reason to switch resolutions, or do 
you simply want to make your fonts the way you want?  We must give different 
advice for the different cases.


 Problem 3 – Audio

Get a live CD for Ubuntu or Knoppix and try booting 

Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-17 Thread Linley Caetan
snip

Ditch Red Hat.  Too many things about the distro are specialised to be Red Hat 
only - the knowledge doesn't transfer.  Back patching kernels is especially a 
lock-in to Red Hat.  When you are more of a Linux mechanic, you can try again 
if you like.  But you won't get there without a working Linux install.

And if it worked for you, it would be great.  But it doesn't.  Try Knoppix or 
Ubuntu (I use and recommend Kubuntu - which is Ubuntu with a default KDE 
desktop).

Regards,
Bret
  

After trying RH 7 and FC2,3,4  I finally gave up on redhat/Fedora.
Yum seemed to solve some problems but in the end the whole thing sucked.
I now use Ubuntu and have not looked back.
My only outstanding problem is to get 5.1 surround sound working
properly on my cmi8738( no subwoofer channel for some reason).
So Ubuntu or Kubuntu it is and I recommend Automatix for newbies to get
them moving with a whole raft of  applications.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-17 Thread jam
On Saturday 18 March 2006 07:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the
 first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode
 incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading
 your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.

 I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
 even the basics working, I am asking for help.

 My setup:

 Mobo            D945GTP (onboard Sigmatel audio, onboard video)

 Processor       Intel P640

 RAM             1GB, 2GB L2 Cache

 HDD             2 off SATAII, WD 160GB in raid 0,
 incl. prim. Active C:/ partition with XP Pro SP1

 HDD             1 off SATAII, SG 160GB NTFS, 1 swap partition 2GB,
 1 Linux root partition 15GB)

 Monitor         Hitachi CML171SXW

 Modem           External Siemens SpeedStream 4200 (as supplied by
 Telstra Bigpond), presently used via USB connection,
    Ethernet connected to 2nd PC for 2nd Internet
 connection.
[snip]

Some quick advice, I have just setup a box in the UK for my father-in-law by 
phone (pain  suffering) but it's working:

Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I strongly 
reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.

Try to resolve your raid as painlessly as you can. Motherboards don't do real 
raid. Google for fake-raid. Avoid raid here (there ARE good arguments for, 
just a noobie, motherboard raid uuurgh, tooo hard)

Avoid the USB modem. Again real-linux-users can probably make it work, but 
ordinary mortals will suffer. I bought him a Speedtouch 516 router for UK$ 
30. Get an ethernet router!

Once you have setup the router (under windoes perchange) then you can start to 
play
James
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I strongly 
 reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.

Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going backwards.

I have set my mother-in-law and my father up on Debian machines. If I was
to do it again I would probably choose ubuntu. I have run two versions
of ubuntu and AFAIAC the latter one was an improvement over the earlier one.

Erik
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