Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
> There are some free X servers in with the X stuff from Cygwin. No idea if they > are any good. > > in fact, looking at the page now it seems the xggi server has been ported.. > > http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/ Wow... Thanks, enterfornone. I might have to play with this. If I can just get the $ people here using Gnumeric instead of Excel... *scheming* Unfortunately the download is too large to get going today. A screenie for the visually oriented: http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/screen.jpg Not only does it support GGI, but DirectX. It's hacks like these that make you wonder. :) - Jeff -- Posting in Outlook Express, to see how the other half lives. (Statistics not available.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
On Sat, 04 Nov 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Option 2 - gpm interference turned out to be the problem. > > > > I would be interested to know when this "problem" started, i.e which > > distros are affected. > > > > <= RH6.0 wasnt affected, Suse6.0 wasn't, Suse6.4 is, Caldera 1.3 wasn't. > > > > To me, this is a major problem and a fatal flaw in linux/X if it is > > widespread. Hi All. I have used SuSE 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, 6.4 and now 7.0 and RedHat 6.0, 6.2 on the same h/w and have had no problem with the mouse under X. - A PS2 Mouse that is. I did have problems with the serial mouse on RedHat 6.0 and 6.2 and I think the problem is the mix of apps that may address the serial port mouse. If I put the serial mouse on my 16 serial Comtrol Rocket port (a memory mapped device) the issue didn't arise. Make of this what you will, but I think its still a overabundance of interrupts on the serial mouse that stuffs the bottom half ISR. There was a early issue with GPM and KDE coexisting but that is old (~ 1.5yrs). Cheers, Grahame. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 09:27:15AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > I'm waiting for the Linux/Unix app that will have the world clamouring for a > decent Windows X server. That will be worth a few smiles... The only trouble > is that no one is interested in writing a Free X server for Windows, and the > existing ones are pretty expensive. C'est la vie. There are some free X servers in with the X stuff from Cygwin. No idea if they are any good. in fact, looking at the page now it seems the xggi server has been ported.. http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/ -- enterfornone - insert clever comment here http://www.enterfornone.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
> Funny you mention that, I'm finding that X is getting required more and more > for some of these server apps :/ not that i believe it should, just finding > tht it needs to be. Oracle is the one that comes to mind. Ugh - nuts. And for a DBMS! I simply assumed that only toy databases and the-expectation-of-toy databases required GUIs. ;) > Also, using an > Xwin client an having X on your workgroup server is a great way to get X > apps on your windows desktops. I'm waiting for the Linux/Unix app that will have the world clamouring for a decent Windows X server. That will be worth a few smiles... The only trouble is that no one is interested in writing a Free X server for Windows, and the existing ones are pretty expensive. C'est la vie. Of those, Star/X (I think it's called) looks okay. Instead of giving you a domineering desktop view of the "other" world, you can actually run your X clients in different Windows windows. Proper ones. Much better for casual Windows users. I think it was Anthony at a recent meeting who told a story about office-workers wanting the X terminals with Star Office over and above the P3's with MS Office because it was more stable, and more fun to use. "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you emulate. Then you run it on their desktops. Then you win." - Not ESR Quoting Ghandi's Particularly Effective and Succint Original Comment - Jeff -- Posting in Outlook Express, to see how the other half lives. (Statistics not available.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
> If it's a server, what on earth do you have X or gpm on there for > anyway? ;) Funny you mention that, I'm finding that X is getting required more and more for some of these server apps :/ not that i believe it should, just finding tht it needs to be. Oracle is the one that comes to mind. Also, using an Xwin client an having X on your workgroup server is a great way to get X apps on your windows desktops. :) Yours, Dave PS, Jeff, I can't get ya gpg key to work :( -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
> Option 2 - gpm interference turned out to be the problem. > > I would be interested to know when this "problem" started, i.e which > distros are affected. > > <= RH6.0 wasnt affected, Suse6.0 wasn't, Suse6.4 is, Caldera 1.3 wasn't. > > To me, this is a major problem and a fatal flaw in linux/X if it is > widespread. Any distro I've used hasn't been affected (RH 5.2+, Debian potato+, Turbolinux at one stage, that strange Gentus retread for about 30 mins, various test runs of the other distros)... I lose gpm almost as soon as it's installed. :) If you have a primarily X-based machine, you don't need gpm. Remove it - the little time you need to spend at the oft-useful console doesn't count! Or, route around it - however I haven't used gpm with X enough to determine whether you can use /dev/mouse in X when gpm is running (you should be able to, perahps unless it's a serial mouse, don't call me on this one). If you run a primarily console-based machine, throw on gpm - it can't hurt. If it's a server, what on earth do you have X or gpm on there for anyway? ;) - Jeff -- Posting in Outlook Express, to see how the other half lives. (Statistics not available.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
Heracles wrote:
> > It is like the left mouse button is being clicked very fast, repeatedly,
> > on everything the cursor passes over.
> 2. gpm may be running and this often interferes with the operation
> of some mice in X
> 3. The mouse may be faulty.
> Case 2 - add gpm -k to the beginning of the startx script.
Option 2 - gpm interference turned out to be the problem.
I would be interested to know when this "problem" started, i.e which
distros are affected.
<= RH6.0 wasnt affected, Suse6.0 wasn't, Suse6.4 is, Caldera 1.3 wasn't.
To me, this is a major problem and a fatal flaw in linux/X if it is
widespread.
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Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
On Wed, 01 Nov 2000, Terry Collins generated: >James Wilkinson wrote: > >> Dirty balls? can't help more than that, sorry. > >If you are under the impression that it might be dirty balls then I >haven't made myself clear. It is definitely not a dirty ball or rollers. > >It is like the left mouse button is being clicked very fast, repeatedly, >on everything the cursor passes over. OK, that is exactly like how my mouse was acting. It's a hardware fault, in my case it was the BIOS not supporting the PS/2 port properly. With a serial mouse, I'd expect that the mouse itself is b0rken. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 05:26:14PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
> James Wilkinson wrote:
>
> And to top it off today, I've just received a duplicate of every mail
> I've ever received between mid Sept and mid October (so far). This
> includes stuff that was deleted from the inbox and trash. My Slug
> archive for October will be stuffed with duplicate messages. It was hit
> before I realised what was going on. The worst part is the messages from
> lists that I've unsubscribed from and deleted the mail filters which are
> flooding my inbox.
>
ARGH! MUA/MTA exacting their revenge?
U, IMAP server going insane?
Sowwy, not really helpful :-(
> Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, much appreciated.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
Terry Collins wrote: > > James Wilkinson wrote: > > > > > Dirty balls? can't help more than that, sorry. > > If you are under the impression that it might be dirty balls then I > haven't made myself clear. It is definitely not a dirty ball or rollers. > > It is like the left mouse button is being clicked very fast, repeatedly, > on everything the cursor passes over. > > Somewhere something is broken, very badly. > Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, much appreciated. If it is a serial MS Mouse that you are using, there are several possibilities. 1. The com port may not be set to run at 1200 baud. It really matters! 2. gpm may be running and this often interferes with the operation of some mice in X 3. The mouse may be faulty. Case 1 - run SaX and fix the problem remembering to use keys only until you apply the changes. Case 2 - add gpm -k to the beginning of the startx script. Case 3 - Either pull the mouse apart and fix it of replace it. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
James Wilkinson wrote:
>
> Dirty balls? can't help more than that, sorry.
If you are under the impression that it might be dirty balls then I
haven't made myself clear. It is definitely not a dirty ball or rollers.
It is like the left mouse button is being clicked very fast, repeatedly,
on everything the cursor passes over.
Somewhere something is broken, very badly.
And to top it off today, I've just received a duplicate of every mail
I've ever received between mid Sept and mid October (so far). This
includes stuff that was deleted from the inbox and trash. My Slug
archive for October will be stuffed with duplicate messages. It was hit
before I realised what was going on. The worst part is the messages from
lists that I've unsubscribed from and deleted the mail filters which are
flooding my inbox.
Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, much appreciated.
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Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Terry Collins generated: >The mouse is an MS 2 button emulating three on a serial port (swapping >this is an option) > >Has anyone come across this problem before? >Does anyone have any ideas? Yes, but not with a serial mouse. Mine was a BIOS problem with the PS/2 mouse port. Dirty balls? can't help more than that, sorry. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
Hello Folks
Have a curious, intermittent problem. About once/twice a day, it seems
like the left mouse button is going crazy and selecting everything the
cursor moves over. I can suddenly have thirty and growing fast new
messages, copies of Yast, a particulary window opening and closing
repeatedly, etc, etc.
The only way to recover is cntrl+alt+blackslash to reboot X.
Initially I thought it might be related to the bttv modules (videodev
i2c-?, tuner and bttv), but lsmod shows they are not loaded, which I've
recently started using.
I can not find anything in the system logs.
The mouse is an MS 2 button emulating three on a serial port (swapping
this is an option)
Has anyone come across this problem before?
Does anyone have any ideas?
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