Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-25 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 03:07:56PM +1000, Jon Jermey wrote:

 The operative word seems to be 'should'. Not only does the driver fail  
 to install, but the installation process crashes the system -- quite an  
 achievement on a Linux box.

Ah yes, the broken Samsung installers.  I've tried to use them and then
had to clean up the mess they left behind because the uninstaller
refuses to run.

Fortunately there's a .deb repo with the drivers, so you don't need to
use Samsung's installers.  Here's how I got my two Samsung printers
(CLP-550N and CLX-6210FX) working:

http://kirriwa.net/john/doc/samsung-printers.html


John

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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-23 Thread Jeremy Visser
Thus spake Jon Jermey:
 I did try and get around that by having
 VirtualBox start up and load virtualised Windows XP when the server was
 switched on, but it all got too complicated and we had reliability
 problems.

VirtualBox isn't really designed for headless server operation. Though
VBoxHeadless exists, I'd recommend using libvirt [0] instead to avoid
having to reinvent the wheel.

 And I can't help thinking that Linux would benefit from something like
 the Windows Network Setup Wizard and the Tools/Map Network Drive option
 in the Windows Explorer -- both of which have been around for well over
 ten years now.

The Network Setup Wizard doesn't do anything other than set your
hostname/workgroup and configure your IP address. Not only that, but
Microsoft themselves evidently removed the feature -- at least my
Windows 7 system doesn't have it.

(No, the Set up a new connection or network is completely unrelated.)

What functionality that the wizard provides were you specifically after?

And as for Tools  Map Network Drive, whatever is wrong with Places 
Connect to Server?

[0] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/libvirt.html



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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-22 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 22/09/2011, at 1:08 PM, James Linder wrote:
 2) Use nautilus to 'connect to remote server'

Even fewer keystrokes, in Nautilus hit ^L (or anywhere in GNOME, hit Alt+F2 
instead), and type 'ssh://yourserver.local'.

GNOME even makes the remote filesystem available to command-line apps via 
~/.gvfs. So much easier than sshfs for day-to-day use.



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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-22 Thread Jon Jermey
Thanks for all the responses. I ended up taking Mint off the server and 
using Windows XP, mainly because there is no Linux driver for one of my 
printers (a Samsung CLP-325). I did try and get around that by having 
VirtualBox start up and load virtualised Windows XP when the server was 
switched on, but it all got too complicated and we had reliability problems.


I should point out, though, that the problem was not communicating with 
the server, but actually mounting a share from the server in a directory 
on my main PC -- and I needed to do that in order to run Lucky Backup.


I've commented before about what seems to me to be the unnecessary grief 
caused by a massive over-proliferation of printer (and other) drivers. 
I've yet to see why fifty different printers all performing the same 
basic functions should require fifty-plus different and incompatible 
sets of software to run them.


And I can't help thinking that Linux would benefit from something like 
the Windows Network Setup Wizard and the Tools/Map Network Drive option 
in the Windows Explorer -- both of which have been around for well over 
ten years now.


But thanks again, and I will try some of the suggestions if and when a 
suitable printer driver becomes available.


Jon.

On 22/09/11 19:34, Jeremy Visser wrote:

On 22/09/2011, at 1:08 PM, James Linder wrote:

2) Use nautilus to 'connect to remote server'


Even fewer keystrokes, in Nautilus hit ^L (or anywhere in GNOME, hit Alt+F2 
instead), and type 'ssh://yourserver.local'.

GNOME even makes the remote filesystem available to command-line apps via 
~/.gvfs. So much easier than sshfs for day-to-day use.




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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-22 Thread peter
 \Jon == Jon Jermey jonjer...@gmail.com writes:

Jon Thanks for all the responses. I ended up taking Mint off the
Jon server and using Windows XP, mainly because there is no Linux
Jon driver for one of my printers (a Samsung CLP-325). I did try and
Jon get around that by having VirtualBox start up and load
Jon virtualised Windows XP when the server was switched on, but it
Jon all got too complicated and we had reliability problems.

There is a driver for that printer on the Samsung site that should
just plug into Cups.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/CLP-325/XAA 

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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-22 Thread James Linder

On 23/09/2011, at 10:00 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

 I tend to use sshf for quick and dirty sharing, and nfs/smb (samba) for
 longer term or higher bandwidth sharing.
 
 Although I do agree with Sonia, I find this even easier
 
 1) put your public key on the other box
 
 [ 
 ssh-keygen
 ssh-copyid otherbox
 ]
 
 2) Use nautilus to 'connect to remote server'
 
 The other file system is just visible
 
 Oh yes, the GUI... :-)

I just signed up for a www hosting service ...
Yes we can enable ssh, but why would you want it :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-22 Thread Jon Jermey
The operative word seems to be 'should'. Not only does the driver fail 
to install, but the installation process crashes the system -- quite an 
achievement on a Linux box.


Jon.

On 23/09/11 09:12, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:


There is a driver for that printer on the Samsung site that should
just plug into Cups.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/CLP-325/XAA

Peter C



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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-21 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* Jon Jermey jonjer...@gmail.com [2011-09-21 14:12:21 +1000]:
 The only help I can find with Google is horrendously complicated.
 Can anyone provide a simple solution or point me to a
 straightforward set of instructions?

Jon, for simple sharing you could try using ssh sharing instead of smb.

1. check you can ssh between the machines. If not, do this on both
machines:

sudo apt-get install openssh-server
sudo service ssh restart

(you may want to later setup ssh keys and tighten security by only
allowing key-based authentication if the boxes are exposed to the
internet, but that's another email)

2. install sshfs and mount the remote home directory:

sudo apt-get install sshfs
cd ~
mkdir mnt
sshfs target_servers_ip_or_hostname mnt
cd mnt
ls

I tend to use sshf for quick and dirty sharing, and nfs/smb (samba) for
longer term or higher bandwidth sharing.

HTH,

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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-21 Thread James Linder

On 22/09/2011, at 10:00 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

 The only help I can find with Google is horrendously complicated.
 Can anyone provide a simple solution or point me to a
 straightforward set of instructions?
 
 Jon, for simple sharing you could try using ssh sharing instead of smb.
 
 1. check you can ssh between the machines. If not, do this on both
 machines:
 
 sudo apt-get install openssh-server
 sudo service ssh restart
 
 (you may want to later setup ssh keys and tighten security by only
 allowing key-based authentication if the boxes are exposed to the
 internet, but that's another email)
 
 2. install sshfs and mount the remote home directory:
 
 sudo apt-get install sshfs
 cd ~
 mkdir mnt
 sshfs target_servers_ip_or_hostname mnt
 cd mnt
 ls
 
 I tend to use sshf for quick and dirty sharing, and nfs/smb (samba) for
 longer term or higher bandwidth sharing.

Although I do agree with Sonia, I find this even easier

1) put your public key on the other box

[ 
ssh-keygen
ssh-copyid otherbox
]

2) Use nautilus to 'connect to remote server'

The other file system is just visible

I find sharedkey easier than friggin around with vault and saved passwords etc

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Re: [SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-21 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:08:54 +0800, James Linder j...@tigger.ws said:
  I tend to use sshf for quick and dirty sharing, and nfs/smb (samba) for
  longer term or higher bandwidth sharing.
 
 Although I do agree with Sonia, I find this even easier
 
 1) put your public key on the other box
 
 [ 
 ssh-keygen
 ssh-copyid otherbox
 ]
 
 2) Use nautilus to 'connect to remote server'
 
 The other file system is just visible

Oh yes, the GUI... :-)
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[SLUG] Mounting a shared folder from one Mint PC on another Mint PC

2011-09-20 Thread Jon Jermey
I recently set up a new CPU with Mint 11 to function as a printer and 
backup server. It's on the LAN as 10.0.0.31 and I can access it with no 
difficulties via Remote Desktop and through Nautilus with File/Connect 
to Server. I would like it to mount some of its directories as devices 
on my main (also Mint 11) PC, but I can't get that to happen.


I have made the folders on the server shared using Nautilus. Again, 
there is no trouble accessing them via Connect to Server.


I'm assuming that I need a line in my /etc/fstab file, but what? I went 
through all this before with a shared folder on a Windows PC, and I 
finally got it working as follows:


//10.0.0.3/Underhouse /media/Underhouse cifs 
noauto,iocharset=utf8,username=xxx,password=yyy,uid=1000 0 0


This makes the Windows share appear as a volume under the Computer icon 
in Nautilus and of course means I can access it via the folder 
media/Underhouse.


I've tried the following with various combinations of filesystems, 
passwords and user names, but although mount doesn't object to it, it 
doesn't seem to make anything happen.


//10.0.0.31/Linux /media/JonXHDD cifs noauto,iocharset=utf8,,,uid=1000 0 0

And yes, /media/JonXHDD does exist.

The only help I can find with Google is horrendously complicated. Can 
anyone provide a simple solution or point me to a straightforward set of 
instructions?


It might help to know that I can't get the Windows Network icon in 
Nautilus/Network to open either: it just comes up with 'Failed to 
retrieve share list from server'


Thanks,

Jon.
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