[SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Pia Smith]

Hi all,

I was thinking that it would be a good idea to have an open discussion
about this tender. I know a few people have already been taling about
it. All that has come out thus far is essentially a call to participate,
referencing what skillsets the government are looking for, and trying to
put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good
time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a
matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online:

www.osia.net.au
www.linux.org.au/ausvendors.php
www.auug.org.au/directory/

but it would be useful to see exactly who can do what, to what capacity
and so forth. As far as I'm concerned this is a really big pie, and many
slices to go around :) We should try to find out where any gaps are as a
community of skills and expertise, so we can ensure as a solution open
source is quite covered by experts according to the governments need.

I think Bruce Badger was able to secure a room at the ACS building for
Thursday 2pm next week. Anyone interested is welcome to come along. I'm
sure he'll post a follow up with the address :)

This is a great opportunity for open source, and for the Australia open
source community. Rock on Australia!

Cheers all,
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Craige McWhirter]

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03 +1000, Pia Smith wrote:

> put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good
> time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a
> matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online:

Sounds like OpenSkills - http://openskills.com/ - may as well use an
existing infrastructure.


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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Taryn East]

admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but...

Openskills you have to pay for... 
I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. 


Cheers,
Taryn

* Craige McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
> On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03 +1000, Pia Smith wrote:
> 
> > put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good
> > time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a
> > matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online:
> 
> Sounds like OpenSkills - http://openskills.com/ - may as well use an
> existing infrastructure.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Robert Collins]

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 10:11 +1000, Taryn East wrote:
> admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but...
> 
> Openskills you have to pay for... 
> I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. 

Do you mind me asking - what aspect of paying AUD 20 / year you find a
turnoff? (i.e. what you get for the AUD 20/ the very concept of a
non-profit organisation/ ...)

Cheers,
Rob 

Discloser: I'm on the openskills board.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Jeff Waugh]

> Openskills you have to pay for... 
> I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. 

SLUG is more expensive to join than OpenSkills. ;-)

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Taryn East]

* Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
> 
> 
> > Openskills you have to pay for... 
> > I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. 
> 
> SLUG is more expensive to join than OpenSkills. ;-)

yeah, but you don't have to pay for SLUG to take advantage of most of
what SLUG has to offer... also it's very easy to see what advantages you
gain by forking out money for SLUG... how do I know that I'll actually
gain anything from registering with openSkills?

Cheers,
Taryn
[who is interested in openskills, but not enough to put her money where
her mouth is and register]


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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Terry Collins]

Taryn East wrote:
> 
> admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but...
> 
> Openskills you have to pay for...

Which isn't a problem if an old slugger can post the value of work they
have received from being listed in it.



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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Robert Collins]

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:25 +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
> Taryn East wrote:
> > 
> > admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but...
> > 
> > Openskills you have to pay for...
> 
> Which isn't a problem if an old slugger can post the value of work they
> have received from being listed in it.

Well I just passed on to the members two small opportunities, which I'd
estimate @ several hundred dollars each.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Bruce Badger]

Taryn wrote:

> Openskills you have to pay for... 
> I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. 

We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a
number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for.

An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. 
Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to
parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best
interests of members.

Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for
members.  If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills
free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Howard Lowndes]

Would someone mind going back a pace or two and telling the country
cousins just what this tender meeting is supposed to be about.


On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03, Pia Smith wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was thinking that it would be a good idea to have an open discussion
> about this tender. I know a few people have already been taling about
> it. All that has come out thus far is essentially a call to participate,
> referencing what skillsets the government are looking for, and trying to
> put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good
> time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a
> matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online:
> 
> www.osia.net.au
> www.linux.org.au/ausvendors.php
> www.auug.org.au/directory/
> 
> but it would be useful to see exactly who can do what, to what capacity
> and so forth. As far as I'm concerned this is a really big pie, and many
> slices to go around :) We should try to find out where any gaps are as a
> community of skills and expertise, so we can ensure as a solution open
> source is quite covered by experts according to the governments need.
> 
> I think Bruce Badger was able to secure a room at the ACS building for
> Thursday 2pm next week. Anyone interested is welcome to come along. I'm
> sure he'll post a follow up with the address :)
> 
> This is a great opportunity for open source, and for the Australia open
> source community. Rock on Australia!
> 
> Cheers all,
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[O Plameras]

Howard Lowndes wrote:
Would someone mind going back a pace or two and telling the country
cousins just what this tender meeting is supposed to be about.
 

Right, more info will assist clarify.
Some relevant links:
ttp://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39161207%2C00.htm
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C4057%2C10757450%255E15319%2C00.html
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39157794%2C00.htm
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0%2C7204%2C10916500%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E%2C00.html
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[David]

Is it only me that finds URL's are an unsatisfying answer to a question?

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, O Plameras wrote:

> Howard Lowndes wrote:
>
> >Would someone mind going back a pace or two and telling the country
> >cousins just what this tender meeting is supposed to be about.
> >
> >
> >
> Right, more info will assist clarify.
>
> Some relevant links:
>
> ttp://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39161207%2C00.htm
> http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C4057%2C10757450%255E15319%2C00.html
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39157794%2C00.htm
> http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0%2C7204%2C10916500%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E%2C00.html
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Stuart Guthrie]

Hi Taryn

In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's
been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These
opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member. 

Other members have similar stories.

Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more
skills searching and more work for members.

Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only
excellent services for the members.


Stu


On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote:
> Taryn wrote:
> 
> > Openskills you have to pay for... 
> > I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. 
> 
> We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a
> number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for.
> 
> An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. 
> Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to
> parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best
> interests of members.
> 
> Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for
> members.  If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills
> free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it.
> 
> All the best,
>   Bruce

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Terry Collins]

David wrote:
> 
> Is it only me that finds URL's are an unsatisfying answer to a question?

In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet.
Phrases like;
" guarantee any legal liability "
" only ten "
" provide all services "
" retraining resellers "
etc.

It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies.
And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Ben de Luca]

Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value 
from what is offered? With more members coming in is 100x times going 
to change to 10x?

I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you 
2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills 
might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how 
does open-skills market it self?

Does some one check that the people who list information list only true 
and correct information?

bd
On 07/10/2004, at 2:36 PM, Stuart Guthrie wrote:
Hi Taryn
In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's
been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These
opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member.
Other members have similar stories.
Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more
skills searching and more work for members.
Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only
excellent services for the members.
Stu
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote:
Taryn wrote:
Openskills you have to pay for...
I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join.
We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a
number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for.
An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors.
Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to
parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best
interests of members.
Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for
members.  If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills
free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Stuart Guthrie]

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 21:07, Ben de Luca wrote:
> Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value 
> from what is offered?
> 

Some extra value yes. Some of the work has come from meeting other
members.

 With more members coming in is 100x times going 
> to change to 10x?
> 

The level of interest from head hunters, other members etc will also
increase. I'd anticipate more rather than less opportunity.

> I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you 
> 2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills 
> might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how 
> does open-skills market it self?
> 

Word of mouth. Web site. Skills base. Networking. We're running on a
very small budget and these methods are currently the most effective.

> Does some one check that the people who list information list only
true 
> and correct information?
> 

No but honesty obviously is always the best policy. If you don't have
the skill, you're not going to be hired for very long and definately not
recommended on.

There is talk of a peer-review process where members can rate others on
projects they've worked on or some such. Nothing's decided yet.  

Most issue to do with openskills are debated on the mailing list for a
while before the committee decide.

HTH

Stu


> bd
> On 07/10/2004, at 2:36 PM, Stuart Guthrie wrote:
> 
> > Hi Taryn
> >
> > In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say
it's
> > been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me.
These
> > opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member.
> >
> > Other members have similar stories.
> >
> > Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more
> > skills searching and more work for members.
> >
> > Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing
_only
> > excellent services for the members.
> >
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote:
> >> Taryn wrote:
> >>
> >>> Openskills you have to pay for...
> >>> I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join.
> >>
> >> We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide
a
> >> number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for.
> >>
> >> An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or
sponsors.
> >> Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden
to
> >> parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best
> >> interests of members.
> >>
> >> Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best
for
> >> members.  If there is a better financing model that leaves
OpenSkills
> >> free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>Bruce
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Bruce Badger]

> 
> __
> From: Ben de Luca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: SLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:07:59 +1000
> 
> Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value 
> from what is offered? With more members coming in is 100x times going 
> to change to 10x?

I can't think of a reason that being on the committee should be an
advantage in getting engagements, and I don't think being on the
committee should be an advantage.  Right now, all the professional
engagements are through the SkillsBase, the OpenSkills-dev list, or just
word of mouth between members.  It's all pretty transparent.

OpenSkills is not the market, so demand for professional talent is not
really changed by OpenSkills.  We hope that OpenSkills is an efficient
way for people to find skilled help and so will become one of the first
places people will look, and thus we would expect that being a member
will give you an edge in marketing your skills.

> I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you 
> 2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills 
> might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how 
> does open-skills market it self?

Yes, membership of OpenSkills is $20 AUD / year.



OpenSkills currently markets itself by word of mouth.  The major systems
to help members make the most of their skills are coming on stream this
year.  For example, the membership management and effort tracking
systems are due to be rolled out < Christmas.

Once all the major systems are in place, we'll be looking at some more
explicit means of marketing ourselves.  If you have any suggestions as
to how we should do this, they would be most welcome.

> Does some one check that the people who list information list only true 
> and correct information?

Well, to be a member you need to have your OpenPGP key signed by at
least two other members.  This gives us something of a handle on who
people really are, and makes it hard for a person to pretend to be many
people.

In the future, we will be adding in cross validation tools to the
SkillsBase.  The first would be a simple reference, where one member can
be a reference for another and agree to be called or emailed - as with a
regular reference you might get from an ex employer.  Then we'd like to
move on to commendations where one member can commend another for a
particular skill.  ... but we want to be careful and avoid game-able
features (e.g. where two members jointly praise each other to the
skies), so we'll move slowly.

So in short, we try to create a transparent situation where it's hard to
cheat.  We hope to avoid needing a central screening function.

HTH

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[O Plameras]

Terry Collins wrote:
In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet.
Phrases like;
" guarantee any legal liability "
" only ten "
" provide all services "
" retraining resellers "
etc.
It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies.
And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers.
 

The silver-lining is  Open Source market in the state will
balloon with a big bang.
The trickle effect will begin to cascade.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Ben de Luca]

The RFT looks like they are trying to source primes to handle large 
projects. With out having to requiring companies to rebid on every 
project.

I have dealt with a few larger government contracts and I cant see the 
expertise in the community around slug to be able to fulfill the 
requirements that exist out side of the technical skills.


On 08/10/2004, at 6:25 AM, O Plameras wrote:
Terry Collins wrote:
In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet.
Phrases like;
" guarantee any legal liability "
" only ten "
" provide all services "
" retraining resellers "
etc.
It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies.
And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers.
The silver-lining is  Open Source market in the state will
balloon with a big bang.
The trickle effect will begin to cascade.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Jeff Waugh]

> The RFT looks like they are trying to source primes to handle large
> projects. With out having to requiring companies to rebid on every
> project.
> 
> I have dealt with a few larger government contracts and I cant see the
> expertise in the community around slug to be able to fulfill the
> requirements that exist out side of the technical skills.

Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
mention the market-building effects of a move like this.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Ben de Luca]

Absolutely, I seem to get the impression that a number of people are 
considering trying to reply to the tender.



Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:

...snip

> Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
> contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
> mention the market-building effects of a move like this.

Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams.

And the problem is how they will source outside people.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Jeff Waugh]

> > Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
> > contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
> > mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
> 
> Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams.

You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[O Plameras]

Jeff Waugh wrote:
You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry.
 

The better news are that Enrtrepeneurs, and Linux
Specialist/Professionals/Practioneers together will
benefit in no uncertain terms doing  what each
do best with the former planning, directing, and
controlling, and the latter getting on with the
technicalities of the projects.


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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Dave Airlie]

> >
> > Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams.

try building up an inhouse team of Linux/OSS people it's a dreadful job,
I'm the "Linux" person in my company and we use Linux in a wide range of
things, It took ages to get someone to take over some of what I do, and
finding anymore good Linux developers is quite a pita.. it took them
4-5mths just to find me and that was by pure luck that I was on my way to
Australia at the time when I heard about the job...

Granted little of our work is open sourced, we give back what we have to
and some more besides so maybe Linux people don't want to work unless they
are giving everything back ...

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Bruce Badger]

Further to Pia's announcement of the meeting about the NSW tender next week:

The venue:
ACS NSW offices
Level 4, 122 Castlereagh Street 
Sydney NSW 2000 
Ph. 02 9261 4411 

Time:   14:00 - 15:30 Thursday 14th Oct 2004

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[O Plameras]

Dave Airlie wrote:
try building up an inhouse team of Linux/OSS people it's a dreadful job,
I'm the "Linux" person in my company and we use Linux in a wide range of
things, It took ages to get someone to take over some of what I do, and
finding anymore good Linux developers is quite a pita.. it took them
4-5mths just to find me and that was by pure luck that I was on my way to
Australia at the time when I heard about the job...
 

True and who amongst the Linux Professionals want to face the Customer 
each day
communicating the things that have done and the things that needs to be 
done; ensuring
the Customer knows where the Project is exactly at and is comfortable 
with the progress
of the jobs; who amongst the Linux Professionals take the responsibility 
to smooth out
Customers concerns when they arise and who will Indemnify the Customer 
for any
items in the contract that the supplier can not deliver, and so. This is 
the role for large
entrepreneural organizations. The role for Linux Professionals is to get 
on with the job
and get paid for the job thats been done.

Granted little of our work is open sourced, we give back what we have to
and some more besides so maybe Linux people don't want to work unless they
are giving everything back ...
Dave.
 

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > > Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
> > > contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
> > > mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
> >
> > Note "may". Usually they build up inhouse teams.
> 
> You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry.

People are free to make their own assessment.
I'm making mine based on 20 years IT experience. I've probably seen
something similar about 5 times and each time it went now where for the
little guys. There is one very important word in the news articles that
is extremely important.


The companies that can easily meet the tender specs are;
IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
because these companies have already met these specs and have the
background with NSW government departments.

RedHat - maybe. It needs hardware creds. Does it have a major integrated
project with NSW Gov under its belt?

There was one major NSW based company that probably meets the specs, but
it cauterised it's *nix skills a couple of years ago. I don't know of
any others.

As I see it, your concern has to tick off very strongly on
 hardware; desktop to mainframe,
 operating system(s),
 software development (major league)
 networking (LAN to statewide)
 documentation (real stuff)
 project management (with proven managers of major projects)
 Training (with certified trainers with the latest certification)
 financial backing
 comprehensive insurance, 
 etc.

My 2c is that if you are an individual, with good skills, your best bet
is to see who tenders, then hawk your resume around.

What isn't filled by major companies, will be filled by the major blood
suckers. 

YMMV.


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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Jeff Waugh]

> IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???

Note that only one of these companies can provide everything listed in the
tender. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
> 
> Note that only one of these companies can provide everything listed in the
> tender. :-)

Really? Would you care to say which one you think can do it?
Hint, they are all *nix competent companies and they have all done major
tenders in the past. They Linux part is chicken shit.


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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Jeff Waugh]

> > > IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
> > 
> > Note that only one of these companies can provide everything listed in
> > the tender. :-)
> 
> Really? Would you care to say which one you think can do it?  Hint, they
> are all *nix competent companies and they have all done major tenders in
> the past. They Linux part is chicken shit.

They can all do it. Only one can provide everything listed in the tender (by
themselves).

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Pia Smith]

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 09:39, Craige McWhirter wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03 +1000, Pia Smith wrote:
> 
> > put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good
> > time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a
> > matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online:
> 
> Sounds like OpenSkills - http://openskills.com/ - may as well use an
> existing infrastructure.

I'm talking specifically about a matrix of skills as defined in the
tender. IE - who does postfix, spamassasin, etc. An opportunity to
figure out where we may be lacking, or have many options.

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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting

[Bruce Badger]

> From: Pia Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 09:39, Craige McWhirter wrote:

>  
> > > put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good
> > > time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a
> > > matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online:
> > 
> > Sounds like OpenSkills - http://openskills.com/ - may as well use an
> > existing infrastructure.
> 
> I'm talking specifically about a matrix of skills as defined in the
> tender. IE - who does postfix, spamassasin, etc. An opportunity to
> figure out where we may be lacking, or have many options.

And indeed the OpenSkills SkillsBase system can be used to answer
precisely this kind of question:

http://skillsbase.openskills.net/SearchResults?do=Search&s=178&s=31

or

http://skillsbase.openskills.net/SearchResults?do=Search&s=14&s=25

So while the SkillsBase is a young system with only a few people using
it so far, it is designed to do what you seem to be asking for.  If you
think it needs some additional features, just let us know.

And if you'd like to know why it is worth becoming a member of
OpenSkils, a recent thread of discussion on the topic resulted in Taryn
writing the following:

http://wiki.openskills.net/OpenSkills/Why+be+a+member%3F

HTH.

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