Zaurus SL5500 (Was: Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit)
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 10:44, Peter Chubb wrote: Considering you can pick up a new SL5500 for $475 from These things can run familiar, yeah? Being a strongarm I imagine they can but I would mind hearing confirmation from anyone out there who knows or does. A couple of lines on why Familiar over Sharp's shipped Linux would be handy (I'm very, ahem, familiar with Familiar but the Sharp Linux2(?) is a new beasty to me). -- The surest protection against temptation is cowardice. -- Mark Twain signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Harald == Harald Richard Ashburner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harald Speaking of special deals, I can get all SLUG members Sharp Harald Zaurus PDA's with debian already installed for only $2,250 Harald (Yes, this is no joke) Preference will obviously be given to Harald all who can show a valid SCOSource licence purchased from Jan. Considering you can pick up a new SL5500 for $475 from http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?prdid=5433 this doesn't seem such a good deal. Peter c -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:29 pm, Jan Schmidt wrote: SLUG's been in need of a privacy policy for ages: there is none at present. Yup. We're still looking for someone that knows the appropriate jargon to write it up correctly. My summation of my stance is: SLUG takes the privacy of its members and mailing list subscribers very seriously. Personal details are only collected to meet legal requirements and allow correct notifications of AGM and SGM or other official SLUG business. At no stage will SLUG be selling or making available the details of members without their permission. Details of the mailing list subcriptions are available to the volunteer list administrators, chosen by the SLUG committee, and email addresses can obviously be collected by anyone subscribed. Subscribers concerned about this are probably best off using ficticious details when subscribing to the list. Have you asked the Privacy Commissioner for a model policy? http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/pc.nsf/pages/index -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing 2/713 Pacific Hwy Gordon Australia 2072 Phone:+(61-2) 9418 4545 Fax:+(61-2) 9418 4348 Mob:+(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:43, Jan Schmidt wrote: Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. You forgot to mention the free SCO shares we discussed. Dan. -- I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. - Albert Einstein -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Great! can I get a rebate on the licenses I just bought? I got my self a couple of hundred for my clients last week? Would this be possible? From: Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:43:54 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:52, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. Yeah you missed ALL the good bits the strippers and the conga line were highlights (or lowlights depending on what you think of Pete in suspenders) Dan. -- I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. - Albert Einstein -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Second that On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Sorry forgot to include sluglist Hmmm Didn't /. have something in about IBM filing for a decloratory judgment in the SCO case. Where the court will state that IBM didn't infringe on SCO's copyright through any linux activity. If IBM wins that case then SCO's license would be null envoid. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong. Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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The list of member's Slug is sending is that the mailing list or the paid member list? If it's the paid member list then I can see some perk not being a paid member ;-) Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second that You can't second that, you're not a former committee member AFAIK! I'm afraid you'll have to propose your own motion to distance yourself. J. On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came for the quality. I stayed for the freedom. -- Sean Neakums -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Doh! I forgot my little smiley ;-) quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second that You can't second that, you're not a former committee member AFAIK! I'm afraid you'll have to propose your own motion to distance yourself. J. On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came for the quality. I stayed for the freedom. -- Sean Neakums -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Is this for real??? I'm thinking that it's too close to april fools day to take such absurd statements seriously. If not then i'll second Mary's motion. On 01/04/2004, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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I think this is a pathetic attempt to comercialise SLUG for the agrandisement of the committee. If you think this cruel and unusual abuse of your position of power is going to entice me to join your organisation then you are fooling yourself. Personally.. i think this justifies the Microsoft model of marketing. At least I know exactly how much I'm up for and I don't get offered free software with slimy organisations like yours sneaking hidden fees. On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:43:54 +1000 From: Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry forgot to include sluglist Hmmm Didn't /. have something in about IBM filing for a decloratory judgment in the SCO case. Where the court will state that IBM didn't infringe on SCO's copyright through any linux activity. If IBM wins that case then SCO's license would be null envoid. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong. Yes, IBM have filed for a declaratory judgement in the SCO-IBM contract dispute. Despite the ample evidence that the very worthy www.groklaw.net has compiled, I don't think anyone can say yet what the courts WILL state. After all, both the Linux kernel and the SCO source trees were written in the VERY SAME CHARACTER SET, which is clear evidence to me that there may be copying going on. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas -- Arnold 'Ace' Rimmer, Red Dwarf -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Hi Kevin and all, To my knowledge and understanding what Kevin stated here is right as far as this issue of SLUG selling Linux licenses to its membership and audience. That this ownership issue, whether it is SCO or the FREE SOFTWARE COMMUNITY is still open. SLUG should not become a vehicle or instrument by which SCO is given de-facto recognition as the owner of the LINUX CODES without being settled by the proper courts as it is currently being pursued by our FRIENDS at IBM, NOVELL, HP, etc. I agree with anyone who wish to distance SLUG from this situation. SLUG Committee perhaps is jumping the gun. Don't SLUG be neutral and wait a while while this case is the Courts ? This is my opinion. I wish to be enlightened. Sorry forgot to include sluglist Hmmm Didn't /. have something in about IBM filing for a decloratory judgment in the SCO case. Where the court will state that IBM didn't infringe on SCO's copyright through any linux activity. If IBM wins that case then SCO's license would be null envoid. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong. Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second that You can't second that, you're not a former committee member AFAIK! I'm afraid you'll have to propose your own motion to distance yourself. But he can still second the motion that an SGM be held to move that the committee can go to hell. Stupid cabal. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of member's Slug is sending is that the mailing list or the paid member list? My understanding is that the committee handed over the entire email address list to the SCO organisation. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of member's Slug is sending is that the mailing list or the paid member list? My understanding is that the committee handed over the entire email address list to the SCO organisation. If this is true then PRIVACY LAW has been broken. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Nice April fools joke. Just as good as an announcement of Patric retiring from Slackware development, seen at http://www.userlocal.com Luke At 10:43 AM 1/04/2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Please note the date on the header. It's April 1. Good grief. However that does bring up another point. What is SLUG's privacy policy? *Can* the committee sell the membership lists to earn some lucre? -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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1st April what do u think? Is this for real??? I'm thinking that it's too close to april fools day to take such absurd statements seriously. If not then i'll second Mary's motion. On 01/04/2004, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Well we can talk about this after 1st of April quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry forgot to include sluglist Hmmm Didn't /. have something in about IBM filing for a decloratory judgment in the SCO case. Where the court will state that IBM didn't infringe on SCO's copyright through any linux activity. If IBM wins that case then SCO's license would be null envoid. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong. Yes, IBM have filed for a declaratory judgement in the SCO-IBM contract dispute. Despite the ample evidence that the very worthy www.groklaw.net has compiled, I don't think anyone can say yet what the courts WILL state. After all, both the Linux kernel and the SCO source trees were written in the VERY SAME CHARACTER SET, which is clear evidence to me that there may be copying going on. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas -- Arnold 'Ace' Rimmer, Red Dwarf -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:30, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second that You can't second that, you're not a former committee member AFAIK! I'm afraid you'll have to propose your own motion to distance yourself. But he can still second the motion that an SGM be held to move that the committee can go to hell. Stupid cabal. *reel*reel*reel* -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of member's Slug is sending is that the mailing list or the paid member list? If it's the paid member list then I can see some perk not being a paid member ;-) We currently have around 40-50 paid members, while the main SLUG list numbers 700 subscribers. Given a mutual interest in furthering the cause of Linux (and incidentally increasing SCO's and SLUG's coffers ;-) ) we've handed over the entire mailing list. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Peter Chubb wrote: Please note the date on the header. It's April 1. Good grief. However that does bring up another point. What is SLUG's privacy policy? *Can* the committee sell the membership lists to earn some lucre? SLUG's been in need of a privacy policy for ages: there is none at present. If anyone has any drafts or templates of such a thing around, please fire it at activities. As far as I'm aware, the only use of your address should be: 1. To maintain the register of members required of us by our Constitution (which may involve allowing others to view the register) 2. To inform you of General Meetings The policy should probably also mention mailing list members. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Actually instead of the Christian Children fund lets create a Linux SCO Slush fund to help SCO fight it's battle against the evils of Linux. We could raise more money. On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of member's Slug is sending is that the mailing list or the paid member list? If it's the paid member list then I can see some perk not being a paid member ;-) We currently have around 40-50 paid members, while the main SLUG list numbers 700 subscribers. Given a mutual interest in furthering the cause of Linux (and incidentally increasing SCO's and SLUG's coffers ;-) ) we've handed over the entire mailing list. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Speaking of special deals, I can get all SLUG members Sharp Zaurus PDA's with debian already installed for only $2,250 (Yes, this is no joke) Preference will obviously be given to all who can show a valid SCOSource licence purchased from Jan. You run gnome? Check your fish applet! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
This one time, at band camp, DE LUCA Ben wrote: Great! can I get a rebate on the licenses I just bought? I got my self a couple of hundred for my clients last week? Would this be possible? Sure. Just send a blank signed cheque, made out to Jamie Wilkinson, to me so I can add you to the membership. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
This one time, at band camp, Peter Chubb wrote: Please note the date on the header. It's April 1. Good grief. However that does bring up another point. What is SLUG's privacy policy? *Can* the committee sell the membership lists to earn some lucre? The membership list is stored on a paper napkin acquired from dinner the night of the agm, crumpled at the bottom of a plastic bag, stored in a secure location in the treasurers house. There are no copies. It's highly unlikely that the treasurer can even be arsed selling the list let alone compiling it into a format that an interested party could read and/or copy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [activities] Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
quote who=Mary Gardiner On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Peter Chubb wrote: Please note the date on the header. It's April 1. Good grief. However that does bring up another point. What is SLUG's privacy policy? *Can* the committee sell the membership lists to earn some lucre? SLUG's been in need of a privacy policy for ages: there is none at present. Yup. We're still looking for someone that knows the appropriate jargon to write it up correctly. My summation of my stance is: SLUG takes the privacy of its members and mailing list subscribers very seriously. Personal details are only collected to meet legal requirements and allow correct notifications of AGM and SGM or other official SLUG business. At no stage will SLUG be selling or making available the details of members without their permission. Details of the mailing list subcriptions are available to the volunteer list administrators, chosen by the SLUG committee, and email addresses can obviously be collected by anyone subscribed. Subscribers concerned about this are probably best off using ficticious details when subscribing to the list. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Panic -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:43:54AM +1000, Jan Schmidt wrote: Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. I thought this one rated about a 4, myself, but after seeing a few of the absolute whoppers that were hooked, I think it'd have to be worth at least a 6. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 12:44, Matthew Palmer wrote: I thought this one rated about a 4, myself, but after seeing a few of the absolute whoppers that were hooked, I think it'd have to be worth at least a 6. Ah-ha! But were they hooked? Or were they hooking you by playing along? I'm inclined to give Mary a 9! Subtlety is not my strongest suit, mind. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Mary Gardiner wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of member's Slug is sending is that the mailing list or the paid member list? My understanding is that the committee handed over the entire email address list to the SCO organisation. They will be looking very closely at the headers: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021003 Hey Darl here's another one, add this one to the legal list we have X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Skip that one, they are great supporters. -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:25, Jasper streit wrote: Is this for real??? Yeah, it's for real. The committee can go to hell. It's still a free country. Regards, Bret I'm thinking that it's too close to april fools day to take such absurd statements seriously. If not then i'll second Mary's motion. On 01/04/2004, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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I'm sat here laughing at how many people are either taking the piss or taking the whole thing seriously. unfortunately as I can't partake in this humour as it's now after mid day, I still find it amusing. -- Shaun Oliver I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
