Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread mlh
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:24:59AM +1100, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:20:07AM +1100, Benno wrote:
> You can disable that in Firebird, thankfully.  Go to Tools -> Options ->
> Advanced -> Browsing, and disable "Use autoscrolling".

While you're at it, make the middle-button load a new page
in another tab in the background.  Your fingers, brain and
many other body parts will be pathetically grateful.

> > Points will go to the first person to make a light weight interface to the gecko
> > engine, get it into a debian package, and most importantly, doesn't then go
> > on to make it totally bloated.
> 
> I haven't used it, but have you tried epiphany?

Epiphany is not as mature as galeon, and mozilla
is getting better all the time.  I'll be sticking
with mozilla from now on in I think.

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread Benno
On Mon Dec 01, 2003 at 11:24:59 +1100, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:20:07AM +1100, Benno wrote:
>> On Mon Dec 01, 2003 at 09:18:42 +1100, Matthew Davidson wrote:
>[...]
>> >
>> >Can't pass up an opportunity to plug Mozilla/Firebird.
>> 
>> Can't pass up the opportunity to bitch about web browsers. First Galeon,
>> and now Mozilla/Firebird have to go and remap middle click from 
>> "go to url in clipboard" to `pop up some really annoying thing that makes
>> the mouse do weird things' (apparently this is copying some IE functionality??).
>
>You can disable that in Firebird, thankfully.  Go to Tools -> Options ->
>Advanced -> Browsing, and disable "Use autoscrolling".

Huzzah! I owe you a beer. I did look through those options but I was looking for
"goto url on middle click"; no idea it was called "auto-scrolling"

>> Points will go to the first person to make a light weight interface to the gecko
>> engine, get it into a debian package, and most importantly, doesn't then go
>> on to make it totally bloated.
>
>I haven't used it, but have you tried epiphany?

Yeah, it doesn't support middle click though :)

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread Conrad Parker
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 07:13:21PM +1100, Richard Neal wrote:
> This might help its a list of banks versus browser compatibility, note
> its not just for Australia but the world, 
> 
> Also if anyone uses web banking check to make sure the results that are
> listed are correct.
> 
> http://www.starnix.com/banks-n-browsers.html

nice!

mostly still correct (but eg. commbank no longer needs java)

also check out some idiot fish's rambling comparison in linmagau:

http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=321&page=1

and anthony rumble's howto on the subject:
http://www.linuxhelp.com.au/electronic-banking/Electronic-Banking-HOWTO-3.html

Kfish.

> 
> On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 16:56, Benno wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> > banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> > and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> > at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> > works with linux browsers?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread Ian Wienand
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:20:07AM +1100, Benno wrote:
> Points will go to the first person to make a light weight interface to the gecko
> engine, get it into a debian package, and most importantly, doesn't then go
> on to make it totally bloated.

epiphany?

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread Benno
On Mon Dec 01, 2003 at 09:18:42 +1100, Matthew Davidson wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 04:56:19PM +1100, Benno wrote:
>> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
>> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
>> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
>> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
>> works with linux browsers?
>
>Can't pass up an opportunity to plug Mozilla/Firebird.

Can't pass up the opportunity to bitch about web browsers. First Galeon,
and now Mozilla/Firebird have to go and remap middle click from 
"go to url in clipboard" to `pop up some really annoying thing that makes
the mouse do weird things' (apparently this is copying some IE functionality??).

Points will go to the first person to make a light weight interface to the gecko
engine, get it into a debian package, and most importantly, doesn't then go
on to make it totally bloated.



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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:20:07AM +1100, Benno wrote:
> On Mon Dec 01, 2003 at 09:18:42 +1100, Matthew Davidson wrote:
[...]
> >
> >Can't pass up an opportunity to plug Mozilla/Firebird.
> 
> Can't pass up the opportunity to bitch about web browsers. First Galeon,
> and now Mozilla/Firebird have to go and remap middle click from 
> "go to url in clipboard" to `pop up some really annoying thing that makes
> the mouse do weird things' (apparently this is copying some IE functionality??).

You can disable that in Firebird, thankfully.  Go to Tools -> Options ->
Advanced -> Browsing, and disable "Use autoscrolling".

> Points will go to the first person to make a light weight interface to the gecko
> engine, get it into a debian package, and most importantly, doesn't then go
> on to make it totally bloated.

I haven't used it, but have you tried epiphany?

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-30 Thread Matthew Davidson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 04:56:19PM +1100, Benno wrote:
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?

Can't pass up an opportunity to plug Mozilla/Firebird.

I'm with a credit union that uses http://www.netteller.org.  It uses 
JavaScript browser sniffing that can be circumvented with the User Agent 
Switcher extension to Firebird and Mozilla:

http://chrispederick.myacen.com/work/firebird/useragentswitcher/

I've been using it for a while with no noticeable problems.  I also sent 
a politely-worded complaint about the practice of coding for browsers 
rather than standards, for all the good it will do.

Matthew.

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-26 Thread Richard Neal
This might help its a list of banks versus browser compatibility, note
its not just for Australia but the world, 

Also if anyone uses web banking check to make sure the results that are
listed are correct.

http://www.starnix.com/banks-n-browsers.html

On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 16:56, Benno wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-25 Thread James Gray
Benno wrote:
Hi all,

I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
works with linux browsers?

Cheers,

Benno
I use Heritage Building Society (http://www.heritageonline.com.au) with 
Mozilla and Phoenix without a problem.  They make heavy use of 
JavaScript so Konquerer is a bit of a mixed bag; some stuff works, but 
the menus aren't displayed making the site only vaugely useful in Konquerer.


Keeping in mind I'm a computer nerd and what I know about finance can be 
etched on a pebble with a blunt chisel, Heritage have one of the best 
mortgages SWMBO and I have found - justified refinancing and is saving 
us a packet.  YMMV.


Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-25 Thread Terry Collins
Rick Welykochy wrote:


> 
> When oh when are webmasters going to learn that HTML has
> its own hyperlinking mechanism called the  tag? And that
> JS is simply not required for these kinds of things?
> 

Umm, you get paid more for writing in javascript than basic HTML {:-).

Thread-wise - my wife stopped internet (and other) banking with St
George because her Nutscape (ver 4.7) didn't work with it and it was the
usual HD whine.

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-25 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:16:27 +1100 (EST)
Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Benno wrote:
> 
> > I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> > banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> > and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> > at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> > works with linux browsers?
> 
> I bank with Westpac.
> Netscape 4.7x on Linux/RH 7.4 works fine.
> 
> Unfortunately, recent Netscapes and Mozillas do not work,
> simply because the link to the online banking page is in
> some weird Javascript that these browsers cannot handle.
> Go figure.

I've got https://olb.westpac.com.au/ bookmarked :-). That avoids
the JS crap.

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-25 Thread Rick Welykochy
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Benno wrote:

> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?

I bank with Westpac.
Netscape 4.7x on Linux/RH 7.4 works fine.

Unfortunately, recent Netscapes and Mozillas do not work,
simply because the link to the online banking page is in
some weird Javascript that these browsers cannot handle.
Go figure.


When oh when are webmasters going to learn that HTML has
its own hyperlinking mechanism called the  tag? And that
JS is simply not required for these kinds of things?


cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-25 Thread Grant Parnell
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Benno wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?

I use the ANZ and StGeorge. Out of the two the ANZ wins for ease of use 
and maximum browser compatability. StGeorge works well enough with a 
reasonably recent version of Java - the catch is Java is required and a 
lot of systems don't have it.

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-25 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:56:19 +1100
Benno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?

I use westpac and anz with Galeon on i386 and PowerPC (ie no Java).

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-24 Thread Nick Kamenyitzky
I have used St George (java applet) and National Australia Bank fine 
with mozilla.

Hi all,

I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank, and
ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking
at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
works with linux browsers?
Cheers,

Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-24 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003, Benno wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?

St George's internet banking (a Java applet) works using a JDK >= 1.4
and Mozilla. I don't think it is officially supported.

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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-24 Thread David


westpac seems to work with any browser/os combination i throw at it

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Benno wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-24 Thread Craige McWhirter
I use the Information Technology Credit Union:

http://intechcu.com.au/

Work's nicely on all my browsers on both Linux PPC and x86[1]


1 - You'd be surprised by the sites that don't


> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank, and
> ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-24 Thread Kevin Saenz
ANZ and Commbank, Australian Credit Union work fine for me, I'm using
mozilla
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
> banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
> and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
> at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
> works with linux browsers?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Benno
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[SLUG] Online banking

2003-11-24 Thread Benno
Hi all,

I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online
banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank,
and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking 
at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that
works with linux browsers?

Cheers,

Benno
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