[SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
Hey everyone, I'm using Xinerama to use two monitors. I'm using Debian unstable, mainly GNOME packages. My X config is cobbled together from a working single monitor debconf X configuration (I'm using Debian unstable) and a working dual head Mandrake configuration (in both cases, the video card is a Matrox G400 I believe). The main changes I made to the working Mandrake config were to put Debian's Files and DRI sections back. The problem I have is that while all the fonts seem to be accessible, some of them simply don't draw and I get nothing where text should be. I can usually force a draw by highlight text or clicking on a button or otherwise forcing widgets to redraw but of course this is making it hell to use certain applications (OpenOffice, Evolution). Got any suggestions? -Mary PS 4KB X config attached. # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section "Files" FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work #DontZap # disable (server abort) EndSection Section "Module" Load"GLcore" Load"bitmap" Load"dbe" Load"ddc" Load"dri" Load"extmod" Load"freetype" Load"glx" Load"int10" Load"record" Load"speedo" Load"type1" Load"vbe" Load "mga_dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Flat Panel 1280x1024" HorizSync 31.5-67 VertRefresh 50-75 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync #ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync #ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync #ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor2" HorizSync 30-70 VertRefresh 50-120 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync #ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync #ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync #ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "Matrox" BoardName "Matrox Millennium G450 DualHead" Driver "mga" Screen 0 BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "device2" VendorName "Matrox" BoardName "Matrox Millennium G450 DualHead" Driver "mga" Screen 1 BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "screen2" Device "device2" Monitor "monitor2" Default
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
> I'm using Xinerama to use two monitors. I'm using Debian unstable, > mainly GNOME packages. My X config is cobbled together from a working > single monitor debconf X configuration (I'm using Debian unstable) and a > working dual head Mandrake configuration (in both cases, the video card > is a Matrox G400 I believe). > The problem I have is that while all the fonts seem to be accessible, > some of them simply don't draw and I get nothing where text should be. I > can usually force a draw by highlight text or clicking on a button or > otherwise forcing widgets to redraw but of course this is making it hell > to use certain applications (OpenOffice, Evolution). > > Got any suggestions? Matrox in both cases? Badness -> Matrox drivers and Xinerama have this effect, which is really annoying, because the drivers and hardware otherwise rock. Perhaps try adding the mga_hal binary loadable driver on matrox.com, but I don't remember it helping. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "It's weird being without white noise." - Catie Flick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Matrox in both cases? Yeah, same card in fact. > Badness -> Matrox drivers and Xinerama have this effect, which is > really annoying, because the drivers and hardware otherwise rock. I may just switch back to single monitor then, I don't physically *need* two (although it's been a nice day aside from OpenOffice). -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
At Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:15:05 +1030, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Matrox in both cases? Badness -> Matrox drivers and Xinerama have this > effect, which is really annoying, because the drivers and hardware otherwise > rock. (my Matrox MilleniumII has never had any problems with Xinerama) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
> At Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:15:05 +1030, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Matrox in both cases? Badness -> Matrox drivers and Xinerama have this > > effect, which is really annoying, because the drivers and hardware otherwise > > rock. > > (my Matrox MilleniumII has never had any problems with Xinerama) Heh, yeah, it's the G* series and up. I used to have a II. :-) - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "And if you think this fucking little tub of gold popcorn is going to remotely make up for everything we've suffered, you're sadly fucking mistaken!" - Gollum -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
At the moment my Internet is down can just recieve emails :(. Just a step a side to get Xinerama working you need 2 cards either 2 pci or 1 agp and 1 pci, etc. Is there latency issues? can you nominate where you want to send 3d programs or graphic intensive programs to? I have been interested in Xinerama but haven't invested time or money in to testing it out. > > > Matrox in both cases? Badness -> Matrox drivers and Xinerama have this > > > effect, which is really annoying, because the drivers and hardware otherwise > > > rock. > > > > (my Matrox MilleniumII has never had any problems with Xinerama) > > Heh, yeah, it's the G* series and up. I used to have a II. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
> At the moment my Internet is down can just recieve emails :(. Just a > step a side to get Xinerama working you need 2 cards either 2 pci or 1 > agp and 1 pci, etc. Or any card that has two outputs. Matrox cheated on this with their dualhead G400 (and above) cards; the second head is not "real", so you can't do 3D or things like that on it. > Is there latency issues? Nothing that would affect normal use. > can you nominate where you want to send 3d programs or graphic intensive > programs to? I have been interested in Xinerama but haven't invested time > or money in to testing it out. I don't really grok all the 3D interactions with Xinerama. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ GDK (acronym): GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program Tool-Kit Drawing-Kit. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
This one time, at band camp, ksaenz wrote: >At the moment my Internet is down can just recieve emails :(. Just a >step a side to get Xinerama working you need 2 cards either 2 pci or 1 >agp and 1 pci, etc. Is there latency issues? can you nominate where you >want to send 3d programs or graphic intensive programs to? Well, if by "nominate" you mean "drag the window to the screen driven by the faster card", then yes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts
> > can you nominate where you want to send 3d programs or graphic intensive > > programs to? I have been interested in Xinerama but haven't invested time \> > or money in to testing it out. > > I don't really grok all the 3D interactions with Xinerama. > for a lot of cases Xinerama and 3d don't co-operate, so 3d doesn't work, I've an Nvidia and SIS card in my main PC, and 3d works on the Nvidia side okay.. With the ATI radeon cards, you can get dualhead 3d using mergedfb.. Dave. meant to be a DRI developer :-) -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 19:27, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Matrox in both cases? > > Yeah, same card in fact. Help me out here ... if Matrox uses an nvidia chipset, right? If that's not correct, then please consider this for general interest... -- The voodoo you have to go through to get dual monitors to work is somewhat extreme, though (amazingly) really well documented[*]. Jeff's comment about them and Xinerama reminded me that ***they implemented their own Xinerama, IN the driver*** which means, against all logic, you DON'T call `X +xinerama`. Makes it barf. They advise against it... The keyword for the driver option you're searching on is "TwinView" In my case, I *didn't* configure two monitors nor two X servers. I ended up with one screen 2048x768 (or whatever) big, but the Xinerama magic (usually) works - notably GNOME 2.4 does everything right. Xscreensaver needs to be bumped to 4.14, but it also does everything right. Check this out - there's stuff in here which you never would have expected in a Device section. It's unclear how much the rest of the xf86config file influences the config. I have two Monitor sections, but the two Screen sections seem to be overridden (and ignored) by this... perhaps only one Monitor gets read, and then... it works this week, don't touch. Section "Device" Identifier "GForceFX5200" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "PNY Technologies" BoardName "FX5200PCI" BusID "PCI:1:6:0" Option "TwinView" "True" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync""31.47-85.03" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60-85" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024 ; 1172x864,1172x864 ; 1024x768,1024x768 ; 800x600,800x600" EndSection I told you it was voodoo. AfC * As you know, I'm running Gentoo. Half the reason I do is so that the OS doesn't give me hassle when I have the temerity to want to use a vendor supplied driver even if it happens to be binary non-free. In portage there are two packages, "nvidia-kernel" and "nvidia-glx" (both using the same download file from Nvidia). One of them contains this HUGE documentation file from nvidia with All The Answers (tm). I can email it to you if you think it would help and can't find it. I gather there are Debian friendly ways to get the vendor driver from Nvidia. As I understand it the free reverse-engineer one is terrible - it certainly makes a hash of the dual head thing. -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
> > > Matrox in both cases? > > > > Yeah, same card in fact. > > Help me out here ... if Matrox uses an nvidia chipset, right? > > If that's not correct, then please consider this for general interest... Hell no, Matrox use their own chips, and are very nice in terms of releasing specs and so on. > The voodoo you have to go through to get dual monitors to work is > somewhat extreme, though (amazingly) really well documented[*]. > > Jeff's comment about them and Xinerama reminded me that ***they > implemented their own Xinerama, IN the driver*** which means, against > all logic, you DON'T call `X +xinerama`. Makes it barf. They advise > against it... > > The keyword for the driver option you're searching on is "TwinView" (Yeah, this is not the case for Matrox at all.) > * As you know, I'm running Gentoo. Half the reason I do is so that the > OS doesn't give me hassle when I have the temerity to want to use a > vendor supplied driver even if it happens to be binary non-free. (Nor should any other distro, just drop the library in and go.) > I gather there are Debian friendly ways to get the vendor driver from > Nvidia. As I understand it the free reverse-engineer one is terrible - > it certainly makes a hash of the dual head thing. The Free one is fine for simple 2D, but does not include any advanced features provided by the hardware, even features that really shouldn't have any IP concerns on Nvidia's side (the driver is not terrible, we just can't do a bunch of stuff). Consider that Nvidia don't even release the specs of the el-boring-o 10/100 NIC on their mobo chipset... Crazy. Moral of the story: Don't buy Nvidia. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ 100% Pure Slashdot Wisdom: "Source code gives a whole new meaning to free software." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
This one time, at band camp, Andrew Cowie wrote: >On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 19:27, Mary Gardiner wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: >> > Matrox in both cases? >> >> Yeah, same card in fact. > >Help me out here ... if Matrox uses an nvidia chipset, right? Nah, matrox are their own, but you rarely see them nowadays because they are tuned for 2D performance and the kids love 3D. If I'm wrong and you can still buy Matrox, stamp out this FUD, but I haven't seen any in the usual online hardware stores[1] for a while. I've never run two Matrox cards together, I've only owned and used single cards with dual outputs on them. They work really well for xinerama but you lose 3D in dual-head mode. Still, if all you use 3D for is glsnake[2] you barely notice ;-) [1] http://www.eyo.com.au http://www.auspcmarket.com.au [2] Thanks Benno! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > I've never run two Matrox cards together, I've only owned and used > single cards with dual outputs on them. They work really well for > xinerama but you lose 3D in dual-head mode. Still, if all you use 3D > for is glsnake[2] you barely notice ;-) I am running a single card with dual output, and you're right it works fine... except that it regularly fails to render fonts, or occasionally it renders them on the wrong screen. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:47 am, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Andrew Cowie wrote: > >On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 19:27, Mary Gardiner wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: > >> > Matrox in both cases? > >> > >> Yeah, same card in fact. > > > >Help me out here ... if Matrox uses an nvidia chipset, right? > > Nah, matrox are their own, but you rarely see them nowadays because they > are tuned for 2D performance and the kids love 3D. If I'm wrong and you > can still buy Matrox, stamp out this FUD, but I haven't seen any in the > usual online hardware stores[1] for a while. > > I've never run two Matrox cards together, I've only owned and used > single cards with dual outputs on them. They work really well for > xinerama but you lose 3D in dual-head mode. Still, if all you use 3D > for is glsnake[2] you barely notice ;-) > > [1] http://www.eyo.com.au > http://www.auspcmarket.com.au > > [2] Thanks Benno! > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg Here's some Matrox cards for you :) Albeit older G4xx and G5xx chipsets. http://www.cougar.com.au/hardware/hardware2.cfm?hware=VGA&FHCID2=479 The newer Parhelia cards can be sourced directly from Matrox via their website. The Aussie exchange rate with Canada is pretty good (better than $USD[1]) so it's worthwhile if you do a lot of graphics/video stuff. Personally, I like my G400Max. Dual head (17" CRT primary, 15" CRT secondary) and the extra screen real-estate, rock solid 2D, fantastic colour and driver stability/simplicity means I doubt I'll be forking out for a new video card any time soon. If you don't play games and want the best 2D available, get Matrox. James [1] At the time I wrote this: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:38am (Aust ESST): 1 Australian Dollar = 0.99280 Canadian Dollar -- Fortune cookies says: Lord, defend me from my friends; I can account for my enemies. -- Charles D'Hericault -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
This one time, at band camp, Mary Gardiner wrote: >On Thu, Jan 22, 2004, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: >> I've never run two Matrox cards together, I've only owned and used >> single cards with dual outputs on them. They work really well for >> xinerama but you lose 3D in dual-head mode. Still, if all you use 3D >> for is glsnake[2] you barely notice ;-) > >I am running a single card with dual output, and you're right it works >fine... except that it regularly fails to render fonts, or occasionally >it renders them on the wrong screen. I noticed that with Firebird, only when it was on the second screen, and the misrendered fonts would appear on the first screen. I haven't seen it for a while now, not since Dec last year, perhaps some mysterious software update fixed it... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > I noticed that with Firebird, only when it was on the second screen, and > the misrendered fonts would appear on the first screen. I get it with OpenOffice, OO on the first screen, fonts on the second (or nowhere). It makes it unusable. > I haven't seen it for a while now, not since Dec last year, perhaps some > mysterious software update fixed it... There are other "a dist-upgrade fixed it!" comments on this issue around the net. I'm running up-to-date unstable (according to the .au mirrors anyway) and I still have it :( Can you send me your config off-list? I'll reply to this post if a comparison of our configs turns up anything interesting. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
> > I haven't seen it for a while now, not since Dec last year, perhaps some > > mysterious software update fixed it... > > There are other "a dist-upgrade fixed it!" comments on this issue around > the net. I'm running up-to-date unstable (according to the .au mirrors > anyway) and I still have it :( Perhaps it's worth trying X 4.3 from experimental (which is perfectly stable, I run it on all my machines). - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "Are you XFire's crazy girlfriend? And if so, shine on you crazy diamond!" - Paul Cameron -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 09:46, Mary Gardiner wrote: > There are other "a dist-upgrade fixed it!" comments on this issue around > the net. I'm running up-to-date unstable (according to the .au mirrors > anyway) and I still have it :( ftp.au.debian.org is not updating or updating so rarely to be not noticable. I update directly off the US now and I am getting upgrades, I notice apt-get update from AU sources do not update. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup
James Gray wrote: ere's some Matrox cards for you :) Albeit older G4xx and G5xx chipsets. http://www.cougar.com.au/hardware/hardware2.cfm?hware=VGA&FHCID2=479 There are a number of Matrox cards - including G450s, G550s and Parhelias listed by Techbuy: http://www.techbuy.com.au Whether they are really available is another matter.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts (X 4.3 works better with Matrox?)
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Perhaps it's worth trying X 4.3 from experimental (which is perfectly > stable, I run it on all my machines). Thanks, early indications for this one are good. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004, Ken Foskey wrote: > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 09:46, Mary Gardiner wrote: > > There are other "a dist-upgrade fixed it!" comments on this issue around > > the net. I'm running up-to-date unstable (according to the .au mirrors > > anyway) and I still have it :( > > ftp.au.debian.org is not updating or updating so rarely to be not > noticable. I update directly off the US now and I am getting upgrades, > I notice apt-get update from AU sources do not update. I'm using mirror.aarnet.edu.au and ftp.wa.au.debian.org. The latter seems to update every night. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
Pacific Internet's Debian mirror is updated every six hours, with their security archive mirror hourly updated. The URL for the main mirror is at: http://mirror.pacific.net.au/ - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:33, Chris Deigan wrote: > Pacific Internet's Debian mirror is updated every six hours, with their > security archive mirror hourly updated. > > The URL for the main mirror is at: http://mirror.pacific.net.au/ Starting to drift off-topic now, but PI have recently started to mirror backports.org as well. http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/debian-backports/ -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Thursday 22 January 2004 14:33, Chris Deigan wrote: > Pacific Internet's Debian mirror is updated every six hours, with their > security archive mirror hourly updated. I've been using this mirror recently, and it's good, but I often notice a connection reset while getting the testing/main packages list. Running apt-get update again usually cures the problem. I would have thought it was some sort of problem with my machine or connection but it happens with the Debian boxes at work too (through a different ISP). Odd. Julian. -- Julian Melville http://tiddly-pom.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:49, Peter Hardy wrote: > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:33, Chris Deigan wrote: > > Pacific Internet's Debian mirror is updated every six hours, with their > > security archive mirror hourly updated. > > > > The URL for the main mirror is at: http://mirror.pacific.net.au/ > > Starting to drift off-topic now, but PI have recently started to mirror > backports.org as well. > > http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/debian-backports/ > FWIW so are linux.org.au. Sorry haven't got the URL ahnd but it's down the bottom of the mirrors page at backports.org Dan. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:32 am, Dan Treacy wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:49, Peter Hardy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:33, Chris Deigan wrote:
> > > Pacific Internet's Debian mirror is updated every six hours, with
> > > their security archive mirror hourly updated.
> > >
> > > The URL for the main mirror is at: http://mirror.pacific.net.au/
> >
> > Starting to drift off-topic now, but PI have recently started to mirror
> > backports.org as well.
> >
> > http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/debian-backports/
>
> FWIW so are linux.org.au. Sorry haven't got the URL ahnd but it's down
> the bottom of the mirrors page at backports.org
>
> Dan.
I tried using the 'linux.org.au' mirror for backports.org for about a month
back in November ('03) and it was PAINFULLY slow. I'm on 128K ISDN and
could only manage <2kB/sec (21kbps roughly or 1/6 of my potential
bandwidth). I've now switched back to using one of the USA mirrors (can't
remember which one) and I'm getting full 128kbps from there.
Even with an apt-proxy running, if ever there were some significant updates
(like XFree) it would take hours longer than it should given the bandwidth
I have available. Maybe it was a temporary problem that's now fixed? I
haven't tried again since. What are other people's experiences with the
linux.org.au mirror??
James
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Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
Julian declaimed: >I've been using this mirror recently, and it's good, but I often notice a >connection reset while getting the testing/main packages list. Running >apt-get update again usually cures the problem. >I would have thought it was some sort of problem with my machine or connection >but it happens with the Debian boxes at work too (through a different ISP). >Odd. It's not you, I get it with Pacific as well. Otherwise, I agree, it seems like a good mirror. David mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: > I'm using mirror.aarnet.edu.au and ftp.wa.au.debian.org. The latter > seems to update every night. mirror.aarnet now seems to have up to date Debian packages again, although I don't know how often the mirror is refreshed. It was as up to date as ftp.wa.debian.org.au this morning. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 10:37, Mary Gardiner wrote: > mirror.aarnet now seems to have up to date Debian packages again, > although I don't know how often the mirror is refreshed. It was as > up to date as ftp.wa.debian.org.au this morning. Please let me know if the mirror is slow mirroring software you are interested in. With so much software on the disks we rely on user reports to fix these issues. -- Glen Turner Tel: (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Network Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Academic & Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Stale AU Debian sources (Re: [SLUG] Xinerama and fonts - nvidia TwinView setup)
I don't run debian at the moment so I don't know how up to date it is, but planetmirror.com (an australian site) has most linux dists and a shitload of other free software. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
