Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-13 Thread dazza
On 9 Feb 2003, James Gregory wrote:

 I was just asked for recommendations of a good linux distro to run as a
 router/firewall. The user in question wants a gui type thing to
 configure it with. He has been using IPCop, and says it has some
 shortcomings. I was a little surprised that the shortcomings he cited,
 so I suspect it's actually the UI that is bad.

 Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him which will
 setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky. Can be a firewall app that
 runs on another distro or a complete distro, I don't really mind.

Install redhat and buy Checkpoint Firewall1.

Remote administration via GUI - even from WindoZe workstations.

DaZZa

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[SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread James Gregory
Hi all,

I was just asked for recommendations of a good linux distro to run as a
router/firewall. The user in question wants a gui type thing to
configure it with. He has been using IPCop, and says it has some
shortcomings. I was a little surprised that the shortcomings he cited,
so I suspect it's actually the UI that is bad.

Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him which will
setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky. Can be a firewall app that
runs on another distro or a complete distro, I don't really mind.

Thanks,

James.


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Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread Tom Massey
* James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-10 00:39]:
 Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him which will
 setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky. Can be a firewall app that
 runs on another distro or a complete distro, I don't really mind.

Perhaps http://www.bastille-linux.org/ Got a good clicky Tk interface.
Bit more than just a firewall, but the firewall module is very good.
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RE: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread Jon Biddell
Take a look at shorewall (www.shorewall.net) - distro-independent, has a
VERY simple configuration system, and the latest webmin (1.060) has a
module for configuring it.

Jon

 Hi all,
 
 I was just asked for recommendations of a good linux distro 
 to run as a router/firewall. The user in question wants a gui 
 type thing to configure it with. He has been using IPCop, and 
 says it has some shortcomings. I was a little surprised that 
 the shortcomings he cited, so I suspect it's actually the UI 
 that is bad.
 
 Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him 
 which will setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky. Can 
 be a firewall app that runs on another distro or a complete 
 distro, I don't really mind.
 
 Thanks,
 
 James.
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread Graeme Robinson
On 9 Feb 2003, James Gregory wrote:

 Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him which will
 setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky.

SME server is a great firewall (uses iptables) but it's not 'clicky' in
the sense that anyone who can click a mouse can change it's configuration.

This is sensible because you really need to know what you are doing to
properly configure a firewall and a casual 'clicky' approach is almost 
certainly not a good indicator of this.



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Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 08:39, Graeme Robinson wrote:
 On 9 Feb 2003, James Gregory wrote:
 
  Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him which will
  setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky.
 
 SME server is a great firewall (uses iptables) but it's not 'clicky' in
 the sense that anyone who can click a mouse can change it's configuration.
 
 This is sensible because you really need to know what you are doing to
 properly configure a firewall and a casual 'clicky' approach is almost 
 certainly not a good indicator of this.

Perhaps I should qualify this. I agree that you need to be very
competent to build a good firewall. However, GUIs can work really well
for assembling them. I suppose what I'm really looking for is something
like Raptor Firewall. I stumbled upon fwbuilder, which looks promising.
The webmin frontend to shorewall also sounds good (though I haven't
looked at it). But, I really want to tell this guy here, install this
and you can set up a bad ass firewall really easily. You can grock
networks without knowing iptables syntax.

But thanks for the suggestion. Actually sounds like the sort of thing I
might use elsewhere.

James.


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Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Gregory

 I suppose what I'm really looking for is something like Raptor Firewall. I
 stumbled upon fwbuilder, which looks promising.

How about:

  - Red Hat's simple firewall admin tool
  - Firestarter (or a KDE equivalent)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 10/02/2003 7:18 AM +1100 James Gregory wrote:


Perhaps I should qualify this. I agree that you need to be very
competent to build a good firewall. However, GUIs can work really well
for assembling them. I suppose what I'm really looking for is something
like Raptor Firewall. I stumbled upon fwbuilder, which looks promising.
The webmin frontend to shorewall also sounds good (though I haven't
looked at it). But, I really want to tell this guy here, install this
and you can set up a bad ass firewall really easily. You can grock
networks without knowing iptables syntax.

But thanks for the suggestion. Actually sounds like the sort of thing I
might use elsewhere.


There's also www.shorewall.net. By default it's not clicky clicky but I 
beleive there is a webmin module for it. This is good because you could not 
only edit the rules via Webmin, but you could also edit the rules by 
editing the shorewall configuration files.

HTH,
Gonz.
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Re: [SLUG] clicky clicky firewalls

2003-02-09 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, James Gregory wrote:
Annnyway, I'm looking for something I can suggest to him which will
setup a good iptables firewall and is clicky. Can be a firewall app that
runs on another distro or a complete distro, I don't really mind.

fwbuilder is a clicky thingy, it sorta kinda looks like Checkpoint, and it
either generates a shell script to run on the firewall to set it up, or it
can upload the firewall configuration to a daemon running on the firewall.

(Last time I used it, though, the shell script gvenerated was buggy and
 needed some manual hacking to get it to load some of the extra iptables
 modules before trying to use those features.)

I now use filtergen for my firewall building (http://hairy.beasts.org/fk)
but that's hardly a clicky thing so it won't help you.

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