Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
Dean Hamstead wrote: any comments on the Matrox Parhelia I saw an in-store demo several months ago at a retail store in Tokyo. At first I though, "wow Matrox is still around", then "Parhelia is a funny name" and then my jaw hit the floor as the demo cranked up. Very, very nice. Alas, the demo was in winbloze and was only single-head. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
ive heard to the contrary with nvidia drivers. I've got an Nvidia and was running the standard nv drivers that come with Xorg. I downloaded and installed the binary nvidia driver and there is a marked improvement. *HOWEVER*, if I left the computer alone for a couple of hours and came back to it some screen saver / energy saver thing had kicked in and the screen would not come back on when I moved the mouse or typed on the keyboard. A remote login and kill of X sometimes worked if I cycled it enough times but usually it was a reboot to get video working again. I've gone back to the nv driver. Cheers P. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
Dave Airlie wrote: so nvidia is now the way to go. well thats an interesting shift from previously when nvidia was the one to boycott and everyone loved the ati radeon No we still love the ATI radeon r200 chips, the newer ones we disklike :-), r200 radeons are the best open source supported, i915 are they still available or even really usable? can they cope with modern games like ut2k4? but for playing Doom3 you can't beat an Nvidia by the fact that it doesn't work properly on anything else :-) works vs doesnt work is always an unbiased benchmark. Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean at bong.com.au or djzort at bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
> > so nvidia is now the way to go. well thats an interesting shift > from previously when nvidia was the one to boycott and everyone > loved the ati radeon No we still love the ATI radeon r200 chips, the newer ones we disklike :-), r200 radeons are the best open source supported, i915 but for playing Doom3 you can't beat an Nvidia by the fact that it doesn't work properly on anything else :-) Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
sorry I meant to say on ATI cards... NVIDIA drivers do play it ... cool It really is a two horse race, with the on-board chipsets coming in a long way off (like the i915 and VIA unichrome...), there is also DRI support for savage cards coming along at the moment, but I don't think anything compares to the main two.. so nvidia is now the way to go. well thats an interesting shift from previously when nvidia was the one to boycott and everyone loved the ati radeon Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean at bong.com.au or djzort at bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
> > and doom3 doesn't work on either open or closed drivers (we are putting a > > bit of work into getting the open drivers supporting doom3 better at the > > moment but how long it takes is anybodys guess...) > > ive heard to the contrary with nvidia drivers. sorry I meant to say on ATI cards... NVIDIA drivers do play it ... > > > To be honest I think NVIDIA have done the best closed source job possible, > > with ATI just looking like they release drivers because they feel they > > should, and nobody gives specs for their newer cards out, which makes life > > as a DRI developer a bit of a pain :-(.. > > Thats disappointing considering ATI used to be great for opensource. > > are there any other really high end cards that would be good for linux? It really is a two horse race, with the on-board chipsets coming in a long way off (like the i915 and VIA unichrome...), there is also DRI support for savage cards coming along at the moment, but I don't think anything compares to the main two.. Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
and doom3 doesn't work on either open or closed drivers (we are putting a bit of work into getting the open drivers supporting doom3 better at the moment but how long it takes is anybodys guess...) ive heard to the contrary with nvidia drivers. so thats very odd Matrox are also from what I heard not great 3D cards they don't have the featureset of either NVIDIA or ATI, Interesting To be honest I think NVIDIA have done the best closed source job possible, with ATI just looking like they release drivers because they feel they should, and nobody gives specs for their newer cards out, which makes life as a DRI developer a bit of a pain :-(.. Thats disappointing considering ATI used to be great for opensource. are there any other really high end cards that would be good for linux? Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean at bong.com.au or djzort at bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] matrox video cards
> > traditionally matrox cards have always been top stuff, especially > in the open source community. If you want a decent open source support 3D graphics card, a Radeon 8500/9100 or FireGL 8800 are the best supported from a DRI point of view, But the ATI closed-source drivers are v.crap, and doom3 doesn't work on either open or closed drivers (we are putting a bit of work into getting the open drivers supporting doom3 better at the moment but how long it takes is anybodys guess...) > granted nvidia and ati offer adequate (flame free) binary drivers > now i understand. i ghave a few friends who now use linux as their > gaming platform of choice and performance is noticable better than > windows (not that it wasnt before) Matrox are also from what I heard not great 3D cards they don't have the featureset of either NVIDIA or ATI, To be honest I think NVIDIA have done the best closed source job possible, with ATI just looking like they release drivers because they feel they should, and nobody gives specs for their newer cards out, which makes life as a DRI developer a bit of a pain :-(.. Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] matrox video cards
any comments on the Matrox Parhelia traditionally matrox cards have always been top stuff, especially in the open source community. granted nvidia and ati offer adequate (flame free) binary drivers now i understand. i ghave a few friends who now use linux as their gaming platform of choice and performance is noticable better than windows (not that it wasnt before) before i go out and give my hard earned patersons to some computer store. has anyone used the aformentioned matrox card? multihead especially? Dean -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean at bong.com.au or djzort at bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
