Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 12:00 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also run vmware Win XP on linux and do the scp trick. I am wondering whether there is an easier way to move files between my host FS and the vmware instance, as it's a bit of a hassle using scp all the time. If you're running VMware Tools in your XP guest, you can simply drag files from a Nautilus window onto a window in your VM, and VMware will copy it across. Not sure if it works with Linux guests. Umm why not samba on your VM host? My clients can see the network shares and my software development uses F: which is my linux home dir That is utterley easy James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 12:03 +1100, David Peterson wrote: I also run vmware Win XP on linux and do the scp trick. I am wondering whether there is an easier way to move files between my host FS and the vmware instance, as it's a bit of a hassle using scp all the time. If you're running VMware Tools in your XP guest, you can simply drag files from a Nautilus window onto a window in your VM, and VMware will copy it across. Not sure if it works with Linux guests. -- Jeremy Visser http://jeremy.visser.name/ () ascii ribbon campaign — against HTML e-mail /\ http://asciiribbon.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Crossover office trial version is supposed to be the same as the purchase version, just it runs out in 30 days, and there is less support. photoshop CS installed and ran similar to in wine but printing not working out of the box as in wine. This may just be that I havent installed printer /driver in wine/crossover yet. flash mx fails to install flash 4 installs but no tool palette, so not yet working. premiere fails to install these are the same results as for wine. cross over just has nicer install wizard guis and puts menu items in your applications menu automatically, and you are buying a level of support on supported applications, which are the ones they know work (relatively short list on their website). Wine/crossover office is said to have benefited by recent interest of Hollywood animation studios in getting photoshop working on wine, so photoshop CS now works on wine despite it being on the list of applications that don't work on crossover offices website. cheers Ken James William Dumay wrote: For macromedia products it memory serves crossover office supports these out of the box. Although not completely foss it might be worth looking at it Cheers, James Dumay On Nov 27, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS, flash 5, director, and sonic forge. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 10:15 +1100, Ken Wilson wrote: Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? # apt-get install vmware-server vmware-tools-kernal-modules (or equivalent). I've got a note that you need at least kernel 2.6.20-16-386 I'm using vmware/xp/cygwin for the one legacy program I can't get rid of. It works flawlessly, although my requirement is not processor intensive so I can't comment on how good it would be with a complex photoshop rendering. I've noticed that some programs that work directly with the hardware (eg, monitor calibration) don't work in this context. That may be because I didn't try hard enough. The way I've got it set up I copy files between Linux and XP using ssh/rsync/scp but I'm sure that there are easier ways to do it. I like it the way I've got it because Windows is completely sandboxed. I've set up the virtual network so that Windows can't see past my LAN. the combination with cygwin is excellent. It means that I've got bash on windows. It might not be so useful for someone who is less geeky. cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Hi David I also run vmware Win XP on linux and do the scp trick. I am wondering whether there is an easier way to move files between my host FS and the vmware instance, as it's a bit of a hassle using scp all the time. Has anyone else got an answer? Maybe sharing within the XP instance and mounting it on the host node using smbfs, or some other option? Dave On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 10:46 +1100, david wrote: The way I've got it set up I copy files between Linux and XP using ssh/rsync/scp but I'm sure that there are easier ways to do it. I like it the way I've got it because Windows is completely sandboxed. I've set up the virtual network so that Windows can't see past my LAN. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Sharing files between guests and hosts (Was: Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc)
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 12:03 +1100, David Peterson wrote: Hi David I also run vmware Win XP on linux and do the scp trick. I am wondering whether there is an easier way to move files between my host FS and the vmware instance, as it's a bit of a hassle using scp all the time. Has anyone else got an answer? Maybe sharing within the XP instance and mounting it on the host node using smbfs, or some other option? The user manual for the beta of VMWare Server 2.0 talks about an integrated Samba file sharing solution. But I've had some problems actually getting the beta to run on my machine, so couldn't give you any more detail than that. Apart from that, installing and configuring samba on the host is a fairly simple exercise. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
For macromedia products it memory serves crossover office supports these out of the box. Although not completely foss it might be worth looking at it Cheers, James Dumay On Nov 27, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
A. On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 10:17 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? I empathize with Linus' 'I'm a pragmaticist' view. Use VMware. It works. Mary runs the windows/photoshop less and less and uses gimp more and more. She finds many tasks easier. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
