Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
Andrew McNaughton wrote: > What goes wrong? Should a different search tool be used, or is it an > issue with the way things are set up? >From the reply I recieved, the search engine says there are too many of X, too many of Y, so I'll only search for Z and gives "crap". Which probably explains why the same sometimes happen on WOA list archives as well. I understand it is being looked at. As with all search engines, you really have to know the answer to frame the question {:-). -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures "People without trees are like fish without clean water" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Terry Collins wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Erps... searching seems to be ok now... > > I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total > trash. What goes wrong? Should a different search tool be used, or is it an issue with the way things are set up? Andrew -- Andrew McNaughton In Sydney and looking for work [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://staff.scoop.co.nz/andrew/cv.doc Mobile: +61 422 753 792 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Problem with Slug Archives Search Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
> Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to > > fix it, and it will always be "trash". > > Some people just wanna play ducks in a barrel huh! (Well, at least I hope I've got the message across.) > Try "debian network config" at http://www.slug.org.au/archives.html and > get 36 responses; > I was hoping for a message that told me how to configure networking > under Debian. I think 1 & 3 don't even mention debian. Okay, what's happening here is that "debian" and "network" are being ignored, so you're getting the results for "config". From the page: References: [ debian (Too many documents hit. Ignored) ] [ network (Too many documents hit. Ignored) ] [ config: 1620 ] [ +uri:/^http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/ (Too many words matched. Ignored) ] Not wonderfully useful. I'll see what I can do to let namazu pick up everything else. Thanks, - Jeff -- "Laughter is a force for democracy." - John Cleese -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Problem with Slug Archives Search Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
Jeff Waugh wrote: > When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to > fix it, and it will always be "trash". Some people just wanna play ducks in a barrel huh! Try "debian network config" at http://www.slug.org.au/archives.html and get 36 responses; e.g. 1)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2002/12/msg00456.html 2)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug-chat/2002/12/msg00085.html 3)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2000/09/msg01131.html and it goes on. I was hoping for a message that told me how to configure networking under Debian. I think 1 & 3 don't even mention debian. It is reproduceable. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures "People without trees are like fish without clean water" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
> Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this > > being a Free Software project and all. > > I'm not having a go at anyone. I grok, but you're not "helping us help you" either. :-) > Just confirming that what a search pops up can be total trash sometimes. I > might have mentioned that when asking for debian networking help the other > day. I used three words like (debian network config) and the results were > anything but. When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to fix it, and it will always be "trash". - Jeff -- The Unix Way: Everything is a file. The Linux Way: Everything is a filesystem. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
Jeff Waugh wrote: > Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this > being a Free Software project and all. I'm not having a go at anyone. Just confirming that what a search pops up can be total trash sometimes. I might have mentioned that when asking for debian networking help the other day. I used three words like (debian network config) and the results were anything but. I don't know if it is consistent/reproducible, but it does happen occassionally. I have no idea where the problem is. I notice that google sometimes does a similar job as well fttt. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures "People without trees are like fish without clean water" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Erps... searching seems to be ok now... > > I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total > trash. Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this being a Free Software project and all. - Jeff -- Two words: Japanese technofetishism. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Erps... searching seems to be ok now... I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total trash. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
> This may be a little off-topic, but I've also noticed that the search > tools for the archives don't really work. > > May I ask how the archive is stored? Is it in an RDMS or flat file(s)? It's a mhonarc mail archive (html, but with useful comment bits in it to denote context) with a namazu search backend (namazu comes with a mhonarc plugin that understands the archive format and contextual hints). It generally works pretty well, but there are some funny, non-obvious things that namazu does from a searcher's perspective. - Jeff -- "Laughter is a force for democracy." - John Cleese -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:26:31PM +1100, Bruce Badger wrote: > Is there any way to search the slug archives. A search tool, that is, > rather than just poking thought the archive? http://www.mail-archive.com/slug%40slug.org.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
Erps... searching seems to be ok now... I have been frustrated in the past by the search engine though - was there problems noted with it previously that have now been fixed? Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 04:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives G'day... This may be a little off-topic, but I've also noticed that the search tools for the archives don't really work. May I ask how the archive is stored? Is it in an RDMS or flat file(s)? I'd be interested in programming a more reliable search engine if it uses an RDMS. If not, I'd still be interested in looking into it. (FWIW, I've commercially programmed a small job search web site which was searchable.) All the best... Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 04:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] Searching the slug archives Is there any way to search the slug archives. A search tool, that is, rather than just poking thought the archive? Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
G'day... This may be a little off-topic, but I've also noticed that the search tools for the archives don't really work. May I ask how the archive is stored? Is it in an RDMS or flat file(s)? I'd be interested in programming a more reliable search engine if it uses an RDMS. If not, I'd still be interested in looking into it. (FWIW, I've commercially programmed a small job search web site which was searchable.) All the best... Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2003 04:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] Searching the slug archives Is there any way to search the slug archives. A search tool, that is, rather than just poking thought the archive? Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
http://slug.org.au/archives.html Andrew On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Bruce Badger wrote: > Date: 04 Mar 2003 16:26:31 +1100 > From: Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives > > Is there any way to search the slug archives. A search tool, that is, > rather than just poking thought the archive? > > Thanks > > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > -- Andrew McNaughton In Sydney and looking for work [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://staff.scoop.co.nz/andrew/cv.doc Mobile: +61 422 753 792 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug