Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-06 Thread Terry Collins
Andrew McNaughton wrote:

 
> What goes wrong?  Should a different search tool be used, or is it an
> issue with the way things are set up?

>From the reply I recieved, the search engine says there are too many of
X, too many of Y, so I'll only search for Z and gives "crap".

Which probably explains why the same sometimes happen on WOA list
archives as well.

I understand it is being looked at.

As with all search engines, you really have to know the answer to frame
the question {:-).


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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-05 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Terry Collins wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Erps... searching seems to be ok now...  
>
> I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total
> trash.

What goes wrong?  Should a different search tool be used, or is it an
issue with the way things are set up?

Andrew





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Re: Problem with Slug Archives Search Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-04 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to
> > fix it, and it will always be "trash".
> 
> Some people just wanna play ducks in a barrel huh!

(Well, at least I hope I've got the message across.)

> Try "debian network config" at http://www.slug.org.au/archives.html and
> get 36 responses;

> I was hoping for a message that told me how to configure networking
> under Debian. I think 1 & 3 don't even mention debian.

Okay, what's happening here is that "debian" and "network" are being
ignored, so you're getting the results for "config". From the page:

  References: [ debian (Too many documents hit. Ignored) ] [ network (Too many 
documents hit. Ignored) ] [ config: 1620 ] [ 
+uri:/^http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/ (Too many words matched. Ignored) ]

Not wonderfully useful. I'll see what I can do to let namazu pick up
everything else.

Thanks,

- Jeff

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Problem with Slug Archives Search Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-04 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote:

> When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to
> fix it, and it will always be "trash".

Some people just wanna play ducks in a barrel huh!

Try "debian network config" at http://www.slug.org.au/archives.html and
get 36 responses;
e.g.

1)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2002/12/msg00456.html
2)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug-chat/2002/12/msg00085.html
3)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2000/09/msg01131.html

and it goes on.

I was hoping for a message that told me how to configure networking
under Debian. I think 1 & 3 don't even mention debian.

It is reproduceable.

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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-04 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this
> > being a Free Software project and all.
> 
> I'm not having a go at anyone.

I grok, but you're not "helping us help you" either. :-)

> Just confirming that what a search pops up can be total trash sometimes. I
> might have mentioned that when asking for debian networking help the other
> day. I used three words like (debian network config) and the results were
> anything but.

When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to
fix it, and it will always be "trash".

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-04 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote:

> Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this
> being a Free Software project and all.

I'm not having a go at anyone. Just confirming that what a search pops
up can be total trash sometimes. I might have mentioned that when asking
for debian networking help the other day. I used three words like
(debian network config) and the results were anything but. I don't know
if it is consistent/reproducible, but it does happen occassionally. I
have no idea where the problem is. I notice that google sometimes does a
similar job as well fttt.

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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-04 Thread Jeff Waugh


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Erps... searching seems to be ok now...  
> 
> I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total
> trash.

Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this
being a Free Software project and all.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-04 Thread Terry Collins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Erps... searching seems to be ok now...  

I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total
trash.
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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-03 Thread Jeff Waugh


> This may be a little off-topic, but I've also noticed that the search
> tools for the archives don't really work.
> 
> May I ask how the archive is stored? Is it in an RDMS or flat file(s)?

It's a mhonarc mail archive (html, but with useful comment bits in it to
denote context) with a namazu search backend (namazu comes with a mhonarc
plugin that understands the archive format and contextual hints).

It generally works pretty well, but there are some funny, non-obvious things
that namazu does from a searcher's perspective.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-03 Thread mlh
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:26:31PM +1100, Bruce Badger wrote:
> Is there any way to search the slug archives.  A search tool, that is,
> rather than just poking thought the archive?


http://www.mail-archive.com/slug%40slug.org.au/



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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-03 Thread mkraus
Erps... searching seems to be ok now...  

I have been frustrated in the past by the search engine though - was there 

problems noted with it previously that have now been fixed?

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G'day...

This may be a little off-topic, but I've also noticed that the search 
tools for the archives don't really work.

May I ask how the archive is stored? Is it in an RDMS or flat file(s)?

I'd be interested in programming a more reliable search engine if it uses 
an RDMS. If not, I'd still be interested in looking into it.

(FWIW, I've commercially programmed a small job search web site which was 
searchable.)

All the best...

Mike
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Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject:[SLUG] Searching the slug archives


Is there any way to search the slug archives.  A search tool, that is,
rather than just poking thought the archive?

Thanks



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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-03 Thread mkraus
G'day...

This may be a little off-topic, but I've also noticed that the search 
tools for the archives don't really work.

May I ask how the archive is stored? Is it in an RDMS or flat file(s)?

I'd be interested in programming a more reliable search engine if it uses 
an RDMS. If not, I'd still be interested in looking into it.

(FWIW, I've commercially programmed a small job search web site which was 
searchable.)

All the best...

Mike
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Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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cc: 
Subject:[SLUG] Searching the slug archives


Is there any way to search the slug archives.  A search tool, that is,
rather than just poking thought the archive?

Thanks



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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

2003-03-03 Thread Andrew McNaughton

http://slug.org.au/archives.html

Andrew


On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Bruce Badger wrote:

> Date: 04 Mar 2003 16:26:31 +1100
> From: Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives
>
> Is there any way to search the slug archives.  A search tool, that is,
> rather than just poking thought the archive?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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