Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
> Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine > without giving Telstra 22c per shot. Faxing implies a telephone call, so, you're still paying telstra. > Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a > digital backup of the hard copy.. > > Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the > scanned tif files to their server. That's an odd way of doing it... Why don't they just get a scanner and save to their hard drive? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your explanation. :) > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > (admittedly low res). Ah. That's... roundabout. But you could make it work... Maybe. http://www.hylafax.org/ Highly overengineered concept to get yourself a cheap scanner. :) - Jeff -- "Socks for the foot menu!" - Liam Quin (Ankh) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
Hi Stuart, You can get little black boxes that fake a telephone call. I.e. they give a dial tone and all you do is plug two modems/faxes into it and they dial each other rather than an exchange that costs money. You'll just have to look around for one. I've seen them advertised before but can't remember now. Go to Dick smiths or tandy. maybe black box catalogue might help. I think they have a website. Ben Stuart Guthrie wrote: > Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine > without giving Telstra 22c per shot. > > Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a > digital backup of the hard copy.. > > Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the > scanned tif files to their server. > > They'd rather link their fax machine directly to their fax modem (or > something else?) but I don't see how this is possible without going out > and back to the telephone exchange. Fax machines expect the 'off-hook' > dial tone before commencing dialing. > > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > (admittedly low res). > > Stuart > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
> > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > > (admittedly low res). > > Ah. That's... roundabout. But you could make it work... Maybe. > > http://www.hylafax.org/ > > Highly overengineered concept to get yourself a cheap scanner. :) > but the keyword is sheet-feeding. I don't know of any sub $200.00 scanners that come with a sheet feed option, and if available often the sheet-feeder costs more than the scanner. As pointed out above you can get a black box that "emulates" the dial tone for you. Jaycar should be able to help you out. Also some fax support 200 dpi scans so you may be able to get fairly good results. Failing that get your self a $80,000 Kodak document scanner, we've got them at work and they work really well, and if you don't want mis-feeds you can go the air feed and air separated model. I don't the price that scanner, but it had it's own room + air con :) Regards Mehmet Ozdemir -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
> You can get little black boxes that fake a telephone call. I.e. they give a > dial tone and all you do is plug two modems/faxes into it and they dial each > other rather than an exchange that costs money. You'll just have to look > around for one. I've seen them advertised before but can't remember now. Go > to Dick smiths or tandy. maybe black box catalogue might help. I think they > have a website. Jaycar had a kit for it, but I'm not sure if you can buy them already put together. For the cost of a kit, and the time to get it put together and working, it may be profitable, but I you'll still rack up a reasonable bill by the time you collect the fax machine, fax modem + exchange simulator kit. That was the name of the kit, from memory - 'Telephone Exchange Simulator' J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ENOSIG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
All this black box is really is a 12volt (maybe a little higher) supply across the phone lines with a resistor. It's just enough to place current into the line so all you need to do is dial which is enough for the other side to think it's getting ring tones and answers. I've done this something like 10 years ago but like others have said, just use a scanner as it's better/quicker than a 2/3 step process.. thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Ben Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 10:48 PM To: Stuart Guthrie Cc: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux. Hi Stuart, You can get little black boxes that fake a telephone call. I.e. they give a dial tone and all you do is plug two modems/faxes into it and they dial each other rather than an exchange that costs money. You'll just have to look around for one. I've seen them advertised before but can't remember now. Go to Dick smiths or tandy. maybe black box catalogue might help. I think they have a website. Ben Stuart Guthrie wrote: > Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine > without giving Telstra 22c per shot. > > Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a > digital backup of the hard copy.. > > Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the > scanned tif files to their server. > > They'd rather link their fax machine directly to their fax modem (or > something else?) but I don't see how this is possible without going out > and back to the telephone exchange. Fax machines expect the 'off-hook' > dial tone before commencing dialing. > > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > (admittedly low res). > > Stuart > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
(is really is really is ;-) ) That's dialing in pulse mode BTW as tone won't make the other device answer the line. thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: George Vieira Sent: Monday, 26 November 2001 8:18 AM Cc: slug Subject: RE: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux. All this black box is really is a 12volt (maybe a little higher) supply across the phone lines with a resistor. It's just enough to place current into the line so all you need to do is dial which is enough for the other side to think it's getting ring tones and answers. I've done this something like 10 years ago but like others have said, just use a scanner as it's better/quicker than a 2/3 step process.. thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Ben Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 10:48 PM To: Stuart Guthrie Cc: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux. Hi Stuart, You can get little black boxes that fake a telephone call. I.e. they give a dial tone and all you do is plug two modems/faxes into it and they dial each other rather than an exchange that costs money. You'll just have to look around for one. I've seen them advertised before but can't remember now. Go to Dick smiths or tandy. maybe black box catalogue might help. I think they have a website. Ben Stuart Guthrie wrote: > Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine > without giving Telstra 22c per shot. > > Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a > digital backup of the hard copy.. > > Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the > scanned tif files to their server. > > They'd rather link their fax machine directly to their fax modem (or > something else?) but I don't see how this is possible without going out > and back to the telephone exchange. Fax machines expect the 'off-hook' > dial tone before commencing dialing. > > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > (admittedly low res). > > Stuart > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
> You can get little black boxes that fake a telephone call. I.e. they give a > dial tone and all you do is plug two modems/faxes into it and they dial each > other rather than an exchange that costs money. You'll just have to look > around for one. National Communications (http://netcomm.com.au/) sell such a device, its called the Ring Master. They advertise a lot in Australian Personal Computer. Rodos P.S. "Telephone Line Simulator Australia" into google gives a direct hit. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
Bugger! Thats http://natcomm.com.au/ not netcomm. Rodos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
Stuart, You can fax your self like this: Set up both faxes/faxmodems on the same telstra line. Call that line with another line, but hangup immediately after the number of rings which the fax waits for before picking up (ours is 2). If you are fast enough (i.e. hangup before the fax picks up), then you won't be charged for that call. Now the answering fax(modem) will be trying to start a fax connection. On the sending fax, send a fax to "0" which will be enough to shut up the dial tone, and then they'll handshake and fax as normal. If you can trigger jfax to pick up without a ring (a la hylafax faxanswer), then you don't need to risk the 22c, just send the fax to "0" and then trigger jfax to pick up. Woody Wot you said... --- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:09:16 +1100 From: Stuart Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: slug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux. Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine without giving Telstra 22c per shot. Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a digital backup of the hard copy.. Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the scanned tif files to their server. They'd rather link their fax machine directly to their fax modem (or something else?) but I don't see how this is possible without going out and back to the telephone exchange. Fax machines expect the 'off-hook' dial tone before commencing dialing. If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner (admittedly low res). Stuart -- Anthony Wood - Partner Services - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Switch Online Pty Limited| Licensed Dealer in Securities ABN 43 090 816 354 | (Licence Number 194 935) PHONE: +61 2 9299-1133 FAX: +61 2 9299-1134 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
Well if you want the dodgy brothers way of doing it plug the faxmodem and fax machine into the same line, use the fax machine's off hook button (as in manually dialing) to pickup the line, wait approximately 90 seconds for the line to fall silent, somehow get hylafax to manually answer (ie no ringing happens) and press the start button on the fax machine, you have about another 90 seconds before the line goes dead. Personally I'd recommend either a cheap scanner or PABX. The scanner's going to be less hassle in the long run. Actually, there's some multi-function devices that are a scanner/printer/fax, if they work with Linux you're really cookin' On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine > > without giving Telstra 22c per shot. > > Faxing implies a telephone call, so, you're still paying telstra. > > > Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a > > digital backup of the hard copy.. > > > > Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the > > scanned tif files to their server. > > That's an odd way of doing it... Why don't they just get a scanner and save > to their hard drive? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your explanation. :) > > > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > > (admittedly low res). > > Ah. That's... roundabout. But you could make it work... Maybe. > > http://www.hylafax.org/ > > Highly overengineered concept to get yourself a cheap scanner. :) > > - Jeff > > -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
Stuart, While this may be getting ott, have you thought about outsourcing this component of your work. There are companies out there that do this sort of work. Depending on how good your source document is they can scan and index these docs for you. Sure you'll pay for it but the end result will be more usable imho. Regards Mehmet Ozdemir Original Message: - From: Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:34:49 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux. You got it in one Mehmet. I just didn't put it as eloquently as you! Thanks Stuart mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
