[sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread John Carter
To other Declude users with Sniffer:

I currently tag subject lines at 10 and delete at 20.  Sniffer results are
scored at 9.  No two tests currently result in more than 18 and therefore it
takes three failed tests to delete.

I am considering moving Sniffer to 10. This would tag the subjects based on
Sniffer alone, but still required three failed tests to delete. 

Question: Do any of you tag subject lines based on Sniffer alone?  My main
problem is that some of my users delete based on the tagged subject line.

Thanks,
John


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Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread Jonathan Schoemann
Iset up declude to delete if it fails sniffer.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/05 09:16AM 
To other Declude users with Sniffer:

I currently tag subject lines at 10 and delete at 20.  Sniffer results are
scored at 9.  No two tests currently result in more than 18 and therefore it
takes three failed tests to delete.

I am considering moving Sniffer to 10. This would tag the subjects based on
Sniffer alone, but still required three failed tests to delete. 

Question: Do any of you tag subject lines based on Sniffer alone?  My main
problem is that some of my users delete based on the tagged subject line.

Thanks,
John


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Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread Nick Hayer

Hi John,

I do not.

As you I score some sniffer tests at 9 and tag the subject at 10. I do 
occasionaly see fp's with sniffer - particulary with legit newsletters. 
So what I have done is leave sniffer where it is and combo it up with 
other tests to push it to and over the 10 threshold.


-Nick


John Carter wrote:


To other Declude users with Sniffer:

I currently tag subject lines at 10 and delete at 20.  Sniffer results are
scored at 9.  No two tests currently result in more than 18 and therefore it
takes three failed tests to delete.

I am considering moving Sniffer to 10. This would tag the subjects based on
Sniffer alone, but still required three failed tests to delete. 


Question: Do any of you tag subject lines based on Sniffer alone?  My main
problem is that some of my users delete based on the tagged subject line.

Thanks,
John


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Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread System Administrator
on 7/20/05 9:44 AM, Jonathan  Schoemann wrote:

 Question: Do any of you tag subject lines based on Sniffer alone?  My main
 problem is that some of my users delete based on the tagged subject line.

I weight each category in Sniffer differently. Some messages are deleted by
Sniffer alone, some messages have the subject line altered by Sniffer alone
and at least one category in Sniffer does nothing visible (other than add
some weight to the message).

This web page will show you how I weight (RSW column) the various
categories. I change the subject at weight 30, delete at 40.

http://12.4.184.4/mdlp/

Greg


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Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

 I currently tag subject lines at 10 and delete at 20.  Sniffer results are
 scored at 9.  No two tests currently result in more than 18 and therefore
it
 takes three failed tests to delete.

I tag at 12, hold on 20 and delete on 27.
Sniffer is at 19, just 1 under hold.
If anything agrees with sniffer it is held, is several sources agree with
sniffer it is deleted.

We are a prepschool/university and process about 4K to 5K msg a day. I have
one to two false positives in the held mail each year.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Bonno Bloksma

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RE: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread John Carter
Thanks to everyone (and any to follow later).  This has been helpful.

Jonathan, could you give me at least one example of coding Declude for a
particular Sniffer category?  I have seen and understand the various Core
Rule Group Result Codes, but am not sure how to separate those out for
evaluation.  Am I missing something at the Sortmonster or Declude web sites?

Thanks again,
John  

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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:38 AM
To: Sniffer
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

on 7/20/05 9:44 AM, Jonathan  Schoemann wrote:

 Question: Do any of you tag subject lines based on Sniffer alone?  My 
 main problem is that some of my users delete based on the tagged subject
line.

I weight each category in Sniffer differently. Some messages are deleted by
Sniffer alone, some messages have the subject line altered by Sniffer alone
and at least one category in Sniffer does nothing visible (other than add
some weight to the message).

This web page will show you how I weight (RSW column) the various
categories. I change the subject at weight 30, delete at 40.

http://12.4.184.4/mdlp/

Greg


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Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread System Administrator
on 7/20/05 11:06 AM, John Carter wrote:

 I have seen and understand the various Core
 Rule Group Result Codes, but am not sure how to separate those out for
 evaluation.

In your global.cfg add lines like the sniffer-scams line below

test name - category -- weight

SNIFFER-SCAMS external 053 c:\Sniffer\sniffer2.exe xnk05x5vmipeaof7  60 0
SNIFFER-PORN  external 054 c:\Sniffer\sniffer2.exe xnk05x5vmipeaof7 101 0

Add the new tests name to your declude junkmail file(s) also.

Greg


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RE: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread John Carter
Thanks, that helps a lot. Didn't understand the replace nonzero with the
weight number in the Global file.

John 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:27 AM
To: Sniffer
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

on 7/20/05 11:06 AM, John Carter wrote:

 I have seen and understand the various Core Rule Group Result Codes, 
 but am not sure how to separate those out for evaluation.

In your global.cfg add lines like the sniffer-scams line below

test name - category -- weight

SNIFFER-SCAMS external 053 c:\Sniffer\sniffer2.exe xnk05x5vmipeaof7  60 0
SNIFFER-PORN  external 054 c:\Sniffer\sniffer2.exe xnk05x5vmipeaof7 101 0

Add the new tests name to your declude junkmail file(s) also.

Greg


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Re[2]: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, July 20, 2005, 12:05:29 PM, John wrote:

JC Thanks, that helps a lot. Didn't understand the replace nonzero with the
JC weight number in the Global file.

Minor correction...

Actually -- you replace nonzero with the result code.

You adjust the weights at the end of the line as usual.

_M



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RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

2005-07-20 Thread John Carter
My bad. Trying to multi-task isn't working today.  :-)

John 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:13 AM
To: John Carter
Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Declude and Sniffer

On Wednesday, July 20, 2005, 12:05:29 PM, John wrote:

JC Thanks, that helps a lot. Didn't understand the replace nonzero 
JC with the weight number in the Global file.

Minor correction...

Actually -- you replace nonzero with the result code.

You adjust the weights at the end of the line as usual.

_M



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